#wylan: THEN SAY THAT
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Jesper: I love when our son forces Wylan to bake with him because its the one thing Wylan is a teeny tiny bit not good at and its so funny to watch
Wylan: Ive never been more stressed in my life
Jesper: You’ve got flour on your forehead
Wylan: Ghezen
#wesper kid insisted on making grandma’s day cookies#wylan: what the hell does beat in the eggs mean?? do i need to punch it? stir aggressively??#jesper: i think it means whisk#wylan: THEN SAY THAT#wylan van eck#jesper fahey#wesper kid#wesper parents#wesper#soc incorrect quotes#six of crows incorrect quotes#six of crows#soc
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reading six of crows is like.... you read exchanges like the "my ghost won't associate with your ghost" or "pay someone to pay someone to pay someone to burn your kruge" and your lol "aw, they really are just kids". and then you watch them be thrust into life or death situations or the book slows down and sits with the weight of their unspeakable trauma or they tally up the things they have done to survive and you sort of sit back and whisper to yourself, "oh... they're just kids."
#six of crows#inej ghafa#kaz brekker#matthias helvar#wylan van eck#jesper fahey#nina zenik#that bit in ck where nina says she wishes there was a grown up who could step in and help them and you're like 'oh shit. she's seventeen'.
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The "Wylan should learn how to read" thing irks me because a huge part of his arc was learning to accept that this was just something that he couldn't do, and that it can't be fixed and that he shouldn't live in shame over it.
Wylan just can't read. Van Eck tried everything. And true, at one point it would get stressful but Van Eck was a kind father at first. It's not about getting a new teacher, it's just something Wylan can't do.
A big part of his growth was learning to accept that. And Kaz is a big part of this.
Kaz is the first person not to scorn Wylan for his dyslexia. Kaz is the first person to just genuinely not care.
Kaz was the one that told Wylan that his weakness was never his disability but his shame surrounding it. He normalised the disability for Wylan, made it a small deal. It's still a part of Wylan, but not as life shattering as his father had always made it out to be.
It can be inconvenient (taking double the time to read the papers at Smeet's office) but it can be worked around. In fact, I believe taking Wylan to Smeets office was for Wylan's benefit. "I knew how long this was going to take" - dismissing Wylan's shame that Wylan is slowing him down. Reassuring him, in his own way, that it's okay. That it's not that big of a deal. It's not even really a problem.
"I didn't hire you to read." Wylan doesn't need to have the ability to read to get on well in life, despite Van Eck's opinions, and Kaz decides to show Wylan that. He decides so because that's what people said about his limp. That a disabled boy with a bad leg will die in the Barrel.
Kaz could get a healer for his leg, hell, Genya offered. But he declined. Why? Because he refuses to be ashamed. Because this is what he is and he won't change that. "It had become a declaration. There was no part of him that was not broken, that had not healed wrong, and there was no part of him that was not stronger for having been broken."
He becomes a boy to be dreaded despite the limp, no, with it. His cane is his weapon. It's not a weakness, it's also a strength. It's not fear the boy despite the limp it's fear the boy with the limp.
And I believe Kaz was truly one of the most important people in Wylan's life because he did that. He showed Wylan not to be ashamed. That he can be powerful not despite the disability, but with it. That what Wylan can do is more important than what he can't and I don't think Wylan will ever forget that.
#still reeling from that person saying if you dont want wylan to learn to read you are ableist#wylan van eck#kaz brekker#six of crows#grishaverse#six of crows duology#disabilities#i think it removes from his arc#my analysis
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#back again!#kaz brekker#nina zenik#matthias helvar#inej ghafa#wylan van eck#kanej#helnik#jesper fahey#wesper#soc#sab#anyway#fourth one is also very zoya#just saying#basil speaks now
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the crows would have absolutely loved monopoly
#i feel so sad they never got to play#au where all they do. every day. is play monopoly#thats the heist thats the plot#them enjoying and bickering#all six of them#cuz all six are happy and alive#(im ignoring kiwi sorry guys)#kaz would get waaaaaay too into it#wylan would be incredible#he memorises the property names based off the colours#nina doesnt even care about winning she just buys the properties that kaz goes for#they never let jesper be banker even though he begs to be every time#the only person who can be banker is matthias#inej secretly moves her piece extra steps during other people's turns and only kaz realises#but he doesn't say anything even though he wants to win#the winner is almost always either kaz or wylan#inej comes close a few times#jesper has never once won but still claims he's best#nina tries to seduce matthias into giving her more money#it (almost) never works#soc#six of crows#ck#crooked kingdom#kaz#inej#kaz brekker#kanej#matthias helvar#jesper
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i love how sankta neyar's speech and character was relevant to all the characters there. to wesper it was "you guard against pain. you guard against joy." to kanej it was "but when you allow yourself to be blindsided by love... two worlds make a universe. he's not my weakness. he's my universe." to zoya it was "i closed my heart, as if that was the solution to ending all pain. what a safe way to live. what a small way as well." for tolya i'm sure he loved how poetic neyar was and that a shu saint was talking to them. and for nina well... "and i will see him through his days. sharing every moment... until he is part of the night sky."
#im sorry#but sankta neyar is just i love her#grishaverse#six of crows#shadow and bone#soc#sankta neyar#ohval saran#wesper#jesper fahey#wylan van eck#kanej#kaz brekker#inej ghafa#zoya nazyalensky#zoyalai#tolya yul bataar#nina zenik#helnik#matthias helvar#except neyar says the sky and fjerdans say the water#1k
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hello, just popping in to make you guys aware of the fact that empire state building is a crows' stan
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#grishaverse#six of crows#crooked kingdom#jesper fahey#wylan van eck#kaz brekker#matthias helvar#the crows#wesper#helnik#kanej#shadow and bone#inej ghafa#nina zenik#everyone say thank you to me for asking them this
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Kaz: checkmate
Wylan: what- we're playing monopoly???
Kaz: when you can't beat the odds, change the game
#and then he pulls a pair of sunglasses out his butt and says swag#wylan proceeds to beat him with his light up sketchers#you hear a thud see a flash of light then Kaz is on the ground#six of crows incorrect quotes#soc incorrect quotes#leigh bardugo#save shadow and bone#grishaverse#shadow and bone#six of crows#crooked kingdom#ruin and rising#siege and storm#wylan hendriks#jesper fahey#wylan van eck#kaz brekker#wesper#inej ghafa#kanej
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I feel like we never acknowledge the sheer comedy of the fact that when Wylan and Jesper help Inej take down merchers involved in the slave trade they're literally ratting out their shitty coworkers.
#its genuinely so funny#inej rolls up to ketterdam like 'hey i know this is a lot to ask but do you think you can help me take this guy down?' and they're literally#like 'who dave? oh hell yeah we fucking hate that guy say less'#six of crows#crooked kindgom#inej ghafa#jesper fahey#wylan van eck#wesper#soc
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wow these bitches are really fucking gay
#this specific comment is directed at hesper and wylan from six of crows but literally applies to any of my characters#*jesper#im reading the book rn and its so good#idk at this current moment if wesper is actually canon but. they are in my head.#can i just say the line#flirting with him(wylan) might actually be more fun than annoying him#is REALLY FUCKING GAY#also ON THE SAME FUCKING PAGE#JESPER TELLS WYLAN THAT HES CUTER WHEN HES SMART#TO HIS FUCKING FACE#so idk how they're not gonna be canon at this point#thank you for coming to my ted talk
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Crows: Kaz, remember when you said you weren’t going to interfere with my love life?
Kaz: No, that doesn’t sound like me at all.
#he would never say this but you know exactly what I’m talking about#six of crows#soc#wylan van eck#jesper fahey#wesper#inej ghafa#kaz brekker#nina zenik#matthias helvar#soc incorrect quotes
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love how apparently the s&b show writers decided to ignore (or forget) the fact that wylan canonically speaks fjerdan lmao
#wish i could say i was shocked#if they had me in the writer’s room this wouldn’t have happened#grishaverse#six of crows#shadow and bone#wylan van eck#leigh bardugo#crooked kingdom#jesper fahey#wylan hendriks#netflix
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Wylan, getting ready to visit his mother's "grave": How about your parents ^-^
Kaz, internally panicking: Uhaaahhhh...
Kaz, master of deflection: My mother is Ketterdam and my father is profit :)
#and it WORKED#how to get people to stop asking you questions in ONE easy step#step: say something dramatic and strange#kaz brekker#wylan van eck#six of crows#grishaverse#six of crows duology
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The infantilization of book!Wylan and show!Wylan really needs to be looked at.
This isnt a call out, or trying to hate on anyone, just an overall thing I've seen throughout being in this fandom
In the books while Wylan is a child he is also 16. People underestimate him into innocent and even younger. And while he is naive, this does not make him innocent. He has his own morals, own judgment that havent been ripped away from him yet. He is just trying to survive.
People use the "we could wake them up line" a lot snd I agree! But to also look at the full lines as well
Wylan gestured to the guards. "Is it safe to leave them, you know-"
"Alive? I'm not big on killing unconscious men."
"We could wake them up."
"Pretty ruthless, merchling. Have you ever killed anyone?"
"I'd never even seen a dead body before I came to the Barrel." Wylan admitted.
"It's not something to be embarrassed about," Jesper said, surprising himself a little. But he meant it. Wylan needed to learn to take care of himself, but it would be nice if he could do it without getting on friendly terms with death."Make sure the gags are tight."
This isnt him being ruthless. Its him being logical. He is taking what Jesper says to heart. Wake them instead of killing them unconscious becuase Jesper doesn't want to kill unconscious men. Which they do end up tying the soldier to a pole, not killing them!! Him having morals shouldn't contribute to claims of him being innocent.
Wylan is worried about hurting people but will do so if nessecasry to save his friends. We can see this in the show and books. In the show he does not want to make bombs for Kaz, but does so in the end because he acknowledges he has to survive. He is worried about Alby, but goes along with the plan still.
All these are what makes Wylan, wylan. It is his fundamentals, his morals and idels. They are not however claims to see how sweet and innocent he is and how he was corrupted.
Ontop of this, while it is never y it is hevaily implied that Wylan is also autistic. (Also, correct me if im wrong please, but im pretty sure Jack did talk about this.) Autistic people get infantilizated already, and I've had my own fair share of this as well. ( I am autistic and have a learning disabilitiy, as well a speech impedament that I still struggle with.) I have to work harder to make sure people treat me as a twenty year old. Because that is my age, and there is a significant difference in attitude in how people treat me when they know im autistic, and when they don't.
And for Wylan, I feel like its the same issue. While it may not be intentional, ive been people coo over the fact Wylan has done simple tasks or teen experiences. Him having Jesper read to him, getting flustered when talking to him, Wylan not understanding social cues as well as others and taking things to face value.
You can be excited for him and think it's sweet, but to also acknowledge that there is a line between "Thats adorable" and "He's adorable." Wylan is someone who is neurodivergent. He was extrmetly sheltred as a child and was never given the proper tools to help his dyslexia, due to this he has struggles that shouldn't be overlooked or seen as "cute" when he experiences outcomes due to the situation he was in. Whenever he doesn't understand social cues, i.e., "Whos mark." People giggling and saying it's silly or cute when he doesn't understand the cues. That's infantilizating! You are viewing things he struggles with in the lens of watching a child understanding the world. Which Wylan isn't. He is a teenager, no matter the circumstances. His age should be understood.
This infantilization also effects wesper in how people view the two of them. Many people view black people as "older, the man in the relationship, rugged" while the white person is seen as the "women, younger, more innocent."
Infact, I think the show only worsned it for Wylan. As now there are faces to names.
Jack does have a youthful face, but still looks his age. I have a babyface and even now at 20 I look much older then I did at 16. The same goes for Jack. He cant control how he looks but because of his youthful features people only push for this racially hetaronormative mindset more between Wylan and Jesper (Even if its untitional).
Even Kit looks his age as well and has a baby face. He's 29 right now but was in his mid twenties during filming. Season 1 was filmed back in 2019 but due to covid post production got set back, and season 2 was filmed in the beginning of 2022. But why is it only Wylan who is infantilizated? Jesper struggles just as much with his ADHD and trauma as Wylan does.
Jack and Kit are only one year apart, the same in the books but still ive been Wylan be portrayed as the "poor innocent child who was abused." and Jesper as the "he needs to get over his addiction hes a grown man/ he's too mean to Wylan."
In society now so many black teens are seen as adults and treated as such, while white teens are seen as younger and not pushed so hard. The same can be seen for wesper.
Ive even seen people on Tiktok and other socials claim that Jesper was rude to Wylan and abusive. (WHERE???). Both Wylan and Jesper have said things that hurt the other, and they both apologized for it, and get grilled as well. In the show and books they learn and grow. The infantilization of Wylan doesnt hurt just him but plays into racial stereotypes and also microagressions. Why is it that when the white character is calling someone out its "deserved" but when the black character (who might I add had no idea) makes a side comment he is labled as cruel and abusive?
In so many shows and books the black character is usually portrayed as the joker character. Six Of Crows does this as well, which is something important to not ingore. Jesper is seen as the flirty joke character. However the only difference is soc also show more sides to his character by letting him be vulnerable. Letting Jesper show his struggles to the audience as well, how his neurodivergece effects him, letting him dress in skirts and bold colors that step away from the gender norm. So many times in media the black character is just there for shits and giggles, or is used as the villan/antagonist.
It believe its really important to understand this, and to acknowledge if your infantilizating him, or even using microagressions on Jesper unintentionally, then to learn to understand why and to grow from them.
#I had words I had to say#once again this is not a callout post!#please dont go hunting for any post as this has been on my mind for months now#I just see it keep happening over and over again and wanted to say something#six of crows#wylan van eck#jesper fahey#wesper#shadow and bone
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Matthias and 'little lamb' aka Wylan
#i have been scouring for an image like this for ages and i found oneee#wylan van eck#wylan hendriks#matthias helvar#grishaverse#six of crows#crooked kingdom#soc#shadow and bone#sab#save shadow and bone#we need matthias to say this
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i also think people forget that wylan is a little shit in the books too. like he’s such a bitch /lh
#he says the most out of pocket shit#i love how soft jack made wylan don’t get me wrong#but i love how much of an ass he is in the books#six of crows#wylan van eck#shadow and bone
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