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tom-bakers-scarf Ā· 1 year ago
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Spotted this in a second hand bookshop and the whiplash I felt was so strong that I think Iā€™ve discovered another 12 stages of grief
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solitairedeere Ā· 6 months ago
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i was never as optimistic about the ending of bnha as some villain stans were, but i never thought it'd end so badly it left me wondering why horikoshi ever bothered to humanize the villains or make them complex characters at all.
like-- i expected that at least 1-2 of the 3 villains who were heavily foreshadowed and outlined by the narrative as people to be saved would be, you know, actually saved. i didn't think that was a high bar. i've been let down before in fandoms where everyone was certain a character would live and then they didn't, so i tried to keep my hopes low. AND YET.
what happened to tomura was upsetting, but i wasn't that shocked after how disinterested the manga has seemed to be in him for like, the past 100 or so chapters. a bit surprised, because you'd think if anyone would succeed in the 'saving' mission it would be the MC, but whatever. dabi, well, they've spent a lot of time showing the way his quirk destroys his body even before this arc, so that also sucked but at least it didn't feel completely out of left field.
........but they're not even letting toga live???
i just-- what have we even been doing here? when zero out of the 3 characters that were marked out for saving were actually saved, you have to acknowledge that something has gone seriously fucking wrong with the storytelling. not even just from the perspective of a villain fan but from the perspective of someone who likes stories to be thematically consistent or satisfying in any way.
you can set up an expectation of these characters being saved and then subvert that and turn it into a tragedy- if done well that could even be worthwhile and interesting. but you can't turn it into a tragedy and then just... keep trucking along with the happy ending messaging and act like anything in the manga has been resolved and that the characters have somehow successfully completed their heroic origin stories.
like, maybe i shouldn't have expected this much from a shounen- at the end of the day it is still a shounen so i didn't expect to feel that it truly satisfactorily wrapped up all the themes it brought up around societal ills. but i expected it to at least resolve those things in a shounen-y way where they punch the problems and help these specific people and then you can feel good assuming that the state of things will continue to improve in the post-canon world of the manga.
instead we got... uh, none of that. the story refused to answer a single one of the larger questions it's been outlining for the past 400+ chapters. in the end, it was all flash and no substance, which again could've been fine, if it weren't for the way the story seemed to spend significant chunks of time trying to delude you into thinking it had substance.
truly makes me wonder what horikoshi thought he was doing the entire time. can it really all be blamed on burnout? the most that can be said for this ending is that it is, well, an ending. fuck dude, it is that.
and that's just... such a sad way to end a project that took up 10 years of your life.
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amustikas Ā· 1 year ago
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gone fishing!
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zimt-deathnote Ā· 13 days ago
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Happy to announce that I finally settled on a gang name for "the mafia", so I can fucking finally stop calling them "the mafia":
LOS VARANOS
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Those are just some goons with canon appearance but holy hell we desperately need some more diversity in here......and tattoos.
The name Los Varanos (which is spanish for monitor lizards btw) is a little nod to my Atrea version of Rod. Monitor lizards are nasty fuckers and I thought it suits the gang.
I had some fun with finding cool fonts for the name. Some members 100% have one of the Fraktur fonts tattooed.
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I could talk about the gang all day.
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fumifooms Ā· 8 months ago
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"Marchil? I guess I can see it on Chilchuckā€™s end, but what about Marcilleā€™s? What makes you think she could develop feelings for him?" Iā€™m glad you asked!
The first thing to note is that she does think highly of him
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In the page on the right, literally defending his virtues and literally comparing him to Dalclan. And ohā€¦
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She does love a brooding mysterious guy who closes himself to love. But surely, Chilchuck isnā€™t her type at all, right? Heā€™s not princely or knightly at all. In apperances certainly not, both looks wise and demeanor wise, but then thatā€™s why she seeks to know him on a deeper level, to not only look shallowly.
And hmm. Chilchuck really is quite selfless isnā€™t he? Always looking out for others, and saving specifically her often, always making sure himself and, staying in or even running towards danger for her sometimes. Modesty is often considered heroicā€¦
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And can we talk about that drowning oneā€¦ You can definitely frame the special attention as him knowing she tends to hesitate or be clumsy, and then his insistance on pulling her out of danger that sheā€™s the healer aka the most important to keep alive, but. From the one who says that he just keeps his ass out of fights and wonā€™t help this is a lot of risk to take, and he does die trying to pull her to safety in the dungeon rabbits chapter. And the drowning bit??? Thatā€™s when the dungeon collapses. The only reason they DONā€™T die of drowning here is that the water then gives way to outside. There was NO hope of pulling her to safety here and resurrections would likely not work either, he truly preferred to die with her than try to survive himself.
Sit your ass back DOWN you are in no state, self-sacrifical hero much damn
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And Marcille definitely noticed this imo, after all she loves learning all she can about him, remembering things like how he hates waiting on people too. She pays attention to him and what he does and what he says. This to say that itā€™s notable, whatever reason for it you may think (though we know by this point at least she was already aware he was an adult though it wasnā€™t internalized), out of everyone itā€™s Chilchuckā€™s bed that she wants to sleep in during the Golden Kingdom stay. Heā€™s safe and comforting to her: dependable, the defining trait in her view of him as is shown by the relationship chart in the Adventurerā€™s Bible.
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^ Lending handkerchiefs is a romance trope btw and handkerchiefs have irl history of being used for courting. Especially in old English literature and plays like Shakespeareā€™s Othello, and personally I do see a lot of Shakespeare in Dalclan (nobility political drama with some romance). Thereā€™s how his cowl is a dearly beloved souvenir from his family too, thereā€™s a lot of aesthetic tropes you can apply to him.
All this to say you can 100% romanticize Chilchuck into a princely noble guy if you try and thatā€™s exactly what Marcille does with the wife roleplay. She doesnā€™t need much in the first place, she latches onto crumbs and makes aesthetic narratives out of details, give her an inch sheā€™ll take a mile.
But whatā€™s interesting about the shift throughout the arc of her and his relationship is that she starts out idealizing him into a little angel of a kid (shapeshifter), and she ends it idealizing him as a virtuous husband and family man instead.
And whatā€™s doubly interesting is that in the former, sheā€™s actively warping who he is personality and demeanor wise to fit the aesthetic, he doesnā€™t have that bitter pride of not asking for help and the edges have been smoothened. But what she does during the wife roleplay is something else, she acknowledges the flaws and justā€¦ Accepts them, rolls with them. Sheā€™s aware of his flaws and implements them into the narrative, but the reason why his wife left doesnā€™t capitalize on them even, rather Chil is chilblivious and his wife loves him very much still, sheā€™s just testing him after having had a night of feeling out of place at his side.
And this is what separates the idealization vs romanticization, sheā€™s not twisting him into someone else sheā€™s just uplifting what he is and focusing on the good sides.
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Marcille: "he has a shitty personality sometimes but if he was my husband Iā€™d still cherish him" "If I were your wife Iā€™d be overjoyed to go out with you and would get myself prettied up while you complain about me taking a long time, your friends would tell me that Iā€™m nice and thatā€™d make me happy, but Iā€™d also be sad because you wouldnā€™t tell me that you love me enough"
Heā€™s angry and his wife left him, heā€™s *flawed*, but heā€™s still worth hyping up, still worth having his own romance story, still has a shot of winning back his beloved. She sees him for what he is, human and real and not a carefully scripted character that fits an aesthetic, and she thinks itā€™s still worthy of love and admiration and fighting for
And whatā€™s funny too is that you might expect her to cool down on him once she learns more about him but actually she only gets increasingly into his business. You tell her your age and next thing you know you promise to introduce her to your family. Give her an inch she takes a mile. And too the thing is, Senshi is equally mysterious but she doesnā€™t pester him like at all, asks him ONCE about his succubus and he doesnā€™t even answer and thatā€™s likeā€¦ It. With Chilchuck it starts off innocently enough with her wanting to know his age, hometown, the stuff she mentions having asked pre-canon. But it just keeps and keeps going and escalating. Think sheā€™ll be satisfied now knowing you have a wife and kids, maybe sheā€™s disillusioned now? Wrong! She wants to know their names and ages and occupations and hey how did you propose to your wife? Do you think sheā€™ll stop after meeting them? Whatā€™s next? What will she want to know next????
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Sheā€™sā€¦ Like itā€™s not a reach that Marcille is all over him. Like it doesnā€™t mean itā€™s romantic but she just is. She is not normal about him idk. Can you not ask him about what tongue technique he used when first kissing his wife, give the man breathing room
Marcille could literally go "if I was Chilchuckā€™s wife" having deeply pondered and thought out the hypothetical and people would still ask where anyone sees any romantic potential between them. Oh wait
Thereā€™s a platonic explanation for everything (almost?) in Dungeon Meshi donā€™t say Iā€™m saying otherwise, but itā€™s definitely not like thereā€™s nothing here to read into lol
Going off a bit more under read bc itā€™s my fave topic
Marcille has a whole theme with the charming prince trope with her idealization and storybook motif and Chil is kinda the "Well someone perfect like that isnā€™t very realistic and romance is usually more complex and thatā€™s ok and good and flawed people can still be āœØvirtuousāœØ" catalyst
Do you see do you see she starts canon thinking the most romantic thing is a prince charming but her arc in the end has her romanticizing an average, flawed, real and realistic family man, whoā€™s on the poorer side and is on the verge of divorce. And thatā€™s what he needed, too, seeing the positive of himself and the situation instead of focusing on the negative is explicitly what inspires him to hope that he might be able to reconcile with his wife, gives him the courage and self-esteem to shoot his shot.
He IS a prince figure instead that now itā€™s not about idealizing the grand and overt itā€™s about romanticizing the small things in real life!! About finding joy and beauty in things that seem normal or mundane and uplifting them to make the world feel kinder!!!!
Heā€™s the devoted virtuous man that she wantsss not the storybook prince thatā€™s unrealistic and could crumble like a script at any time. Heā€™s the perfect example of a flawed realistic but virtuous & devoted & loving man. Far from a prince charming, but not fully detached from it either. Something worth fighting for despite the flawed cracks. Like literally, flawed romance being worth fighting for is literally the finale of Chilchuck and Marcilleā€™s arc on the matter, where their separate arcs and issues intersect at the most crucial moment.
Marcille is important to Chilā€™s arc not only because of her optimism, but also because of her interest and knowledge in romance & matters of the heart, and thatā€™s what he needs to both open his heart up to hope and to try to reconcile with his wife, like idk sounds gay
Their arc together is literally learning to 1) see each other for how they are and not undermining their qualities capacities etc etc while still not leaving flaws unchecked either and 2) opening up to people. Marcille LITERALLY makes Chil open his heart up to hope like idk man. What do you want from me. Heā€™s literally the guy helping her through deconstructing novels and fantasy and rose tinted glasses and like. Deconstructing the prince charming figure into something more real but still romantically beautiful like KUI KUI STOOOOP STOP Iā€™M ALREADY HOOKED Iā€™M ALREADY-
Ā Ok fine thatā€™s me reading into the tropes too much forgive me for being storybook brained but like. Speaking his heart out to a lone woman on a balcony, Romeo and Juliette shit, asking if she, too, doesnā€™t want to meet his family, madly blushing. And like sheā€™s learned with Chilchuck itā€™s all in the little things, all the implications he cannot speak aloud. She does reciprocate, does blush madly back, and the first thing she does is shower him in flowers and jewelry and what in her heart is coded as romantic gifts
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A lady, stashed away in a high tower by her lonesome, waiting for someone to call out to her from belowā€¦ Romeo courting type shit with an offer, a heartfelt spiel, implicit confession from underneath her balcony. Offering him flowers because he succeeded in calling out to her heartā€¦ā€¦.. And they have to climb to her tooā€¦. Crazy
Doesnā€™t it sound like a proposal. One thatā€™s both so storybook-like and not, contrastedly real and grounded, all about the implications rather than in your face grand gestures, "Donā€™t you want to meet my family?". They literally have an arc about the topic of romance and this is the climax/pinnacle of it like god?? This is @ the woman who said "Chilchuck is a shy/bashful man so I know he wouldnā€™t tell me he loves me, butā€¦" btw
To quote a friend, truly the shiny secret unlockable dating sim capture target : THE DUNGEON LORD BIT WAS SO FUNNY BECAUSE HE KNEW SHE'D TAKE IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER HES THE ONE WHO GOT HER TO TURN AROUND COMPLETELY SHES LIKE. WIDE EYED FLAG RAISED???? FLAG RAISED WITH CHILCHUCKĀ šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€ā€¼ļøšŸ‘€šŸ‘€ā€¼ļøšŸ‘€
And the way that this is the culmination of their arc togetherā€¦ Like people are not ready for the ā€˜Chil calling out to dunlord Marcille on the balcony has Romeo and Juliette romance novels imageryā€™ take. Or the ā€˜their arc is about growing to see beauty even in the non-idealized, in the flawed and in the realā€™ take which makes it so so perfect if she were to lower her ideal from a charming elven prince to a virtuous halfling man (which she does end up romanticizing)
So there, you got to witness in real time what happens when I think about marchil for longer than 2 minutes, there are so many layers itā€™s a deranged rabbithole. I saw the necronomicon of subtext and itā€™s driving me to madness with forbidden knowledge that no one else sees
ā€¦ā€¦. Like what if I told you she implicitly picked Chilchuck over a "unrealistic prince charming whoā€™s actually disingenuous" much earlier in the story already. If she was given the choice to think through going with a guy that seems perfect and chivalrous like her succubus sheā€™d pick Chilchuck over the other actually. If I sound insane rn tune in for my full analysis on them coming this month hopefully thank youu. Interwoven arcs of fantasy vs reality and idealization vs pessimism I love youuu
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So now you know the general thesis of my planned analysis about the importance of the prince charming figure in Marcille and Chilchuckā€™s arc, where she romanticizes things to a sometimes worrying degree or idealize people into something easy and digestible and poetic (like Chil being a kid, and then him being a virtuous āœØāœØāœØhusband), and how she needs to value aesthetics less and actual acts and facts more, be more grounded (like seeing people for what they are flaws and all, and accepting that people need money and not pulling through on principles of honor or unity shouldnā€™t get Namari shamed) and a part of that is accepting that Chilchuck is BOTH flawed and virtuous, a loving husband that still has shitty moods and fumbled his marriage so bad etc etc. So itā€™s like, her image of perfect prince charming that will whisk you away on an ethereal romance -> realistic flawed middle aged dad with personality issues and a failing marriage but he still is worthy of love and having his cute grand romance story and his happy ending. Ik I keep repeating the same point through this but I need it to be burned into everyoneā€™s brains it has its grip on me I canā€™t do this. They are so specialā€¦ā€¦
#Someone did ask (on discord) btw iā€™m not just being a smartass though I do love being that too#This is stuff I cover in my upcoming marcille & chil arc analysis except here I can go full romo and donā€™t keep the strictly platonic angle#Itā€™s at like 15k words rn I think. The 30 pics limit is killing me which is why I started asking my friend to do collages of panels for me#Sob#I keep alternating between it and the Falin analysis save me. Should be dropping soon idk i might test out having a beta reader for that on#Marchil foreplay is 2 years of being coworkers and slowly worming personal questions out of him until he blinks and she has#a key to his house#Dungeon meshi#marchil#marcille donato#chilchuck tims#like theyā€™re so so funny look at this shit. Nonconsensual romanticizing of you as a person. Obsessive interest in your personal life#Sheā€™s latched so hard onto the ā€œmysteryā€ of him theyā€™re deranged#MAYBE ITS ALL COMPROMISES MAYBE ITS ALL SWEET INBETWEENS <3#maybe we'll take our vision of what we thought we could be and make something new together. something for just us#Fumi rambles#Maaan Marcilleā€™s ā€˜idealizing him into liking him even for all his flaws bc his personality is often kinda shittyā€™ arcā€™#and Chilchuckā€™s ā€˜prejudice against elves and mages and optimism into respect and trustā€™ arc are everything to me#Meta#Spoilers#Dungeon meshi manga spoilers#Tagged this so late oops#Itā€™s so funny. Sheā€™s canonically wondered how Chil would be like as a lover#No no but like do u see. Fantasy is a key part of her chrcter and arc and heā€™s the foil to that heā€™s the thing that comes challenge it
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mikurinkuwu Ā· 26 days ago
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How do you feel about proshipping and anti shipping? Just wondering tbh cause you donā€™t mention it!
i don't mention it because it's completely irrelevant to me (? i think both sides can be extremely annoying so i stay away from people who let either of those terms define their whole identity
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starry-bearr Ā· 4 months ago
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YALL are repenting for your sins i was eight when the hiatus happened i didn't do SHIT
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fangirlforeversthings Ā· 7 days ago
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Why is teldryn always THAT close straight in my DB's back whispering from behind in his very ear "Careful, it looks like something has lived here before" in his most sensual voice? Like that feels a little gay bro but idk man
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akkivee Ā· 30 days ago
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like i feel like if honobono treats people like her playthings, compares people to livestock and has an ability to render people completely mute, that just tells me she herself felt as if she were treated like a doll of some sort where all she was expected to do was shut up and be pretty šŸ¤”
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rearranging-deck-chairs Ā· 7 months ago
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if 9&10 were "dont wander off", and 11&12 were "the doctor lies", 13s rule #1 is "dont question me"
"have we not had a good time together" shes pointing yaz to the rule that yaz very well knows is there: we can travel if you dont ask me any difficult questions. yaz knows this is the rule - "because you ask too many questions", "this team structure isnt flat" - but she also was the one to invite the doctor into her home so im pretty sure she also knows shes not gonna kicked out that easily. she has some leeway. which she has been using between revolution and flux, which is why the doctor reminds her of the rules
i dont think she'd kick her out though. she wouldnt. i think it's just that the more you break the rule, the more unpleasant she becomes to be around, and eventually youre gonna walk out on your own. she doesnt want you to, she'd rather you stay and dont ask questions. but if youre gonna try to ask questions anyway, i think thats whats gonna happen
and yaz must think so too. because she does back off. because she doesnt want that to happen either. and it does anyway
#dont question me/dont challenge me. questions are the sore spot but the challenge is one she says explicitly once#because you see this in how she is with other people too. dont try her patience. dont act like shes smaller. dont challenge her or Die#based on the giggle - 'i thought i was clever' 'what do i say?! because im always sooo certain' - i dont think 14 is like this#also based on the expressions of affection#hes not that......reactive. to this. specific thing#so i wonder if it runs over to 15#he seems chill. i think? he seems fairly chill. but also i think we've so far only seen him mostly in control of things#faced with the maestro temporarily not entirely in control hes Notably Less Chill#but still bigger picture. hes mostly in control of things right now i think#or uhhhh based on how eager he seems to get out of the role of doctor#hmmmmm#13 didnt want it but like. was stuck with it i think#didnt want it but nobody else was gonna do it. thats why 12 regenerated#15 comes out 14 Literally Quitting#he doesnt want it and hes decided hes not stuck with it. maybe#none of this is true btw im just saying words recreationally#like those 13 moments are super cherrypicked and i havent rewatched in forever so#dont believe me gfkjghgjh#this is based more on how i write them than what ive seen basically#anyway in terms of 14/yaz i think it takes yaz a while to figure out how to deal with 14 Not being like this#bc she got soooo practiced at handling 13. most of which was abt like not tripping this rule too much#she'd keep it up with 14 and he'd just do stuff that like breaks the rule from his side and yaz wouldnt have any idea how to deal with it#he'd show her hes chilled out a bit. about this. over and over and it'd still take her moooooonthssssssss to start relaxing#just muscle memory at this point. doesnt help that shes also like this#i wonder if 14 - in a sort of compelte reversal - wants to be told what to do and how to do and#seeks out situations where someone else knows more than him so he can sit down and say 'teach me'#i think thats what he does. about all the human stuff. hes like teach me. all of it. show me how to do this
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teddybeartoji Ā· 4 months ago
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o wait before i start posting any pics.. i was thinking that maybe.. you guys could help me liquify this gender some more by switching up what you call me.... DON'T GET ME WRONG I LOVE . LOVE LOVE LOVE WHEN YOU USE HE/HIM AND JUST OVERALL LIKE MORE MASC STUFF THAT'S SOOO MMMMMMMMMSO FUCKING GOOD like i don't get to feel that irl at all so it really does make me so happy but i've just been thinking abt TRYING to switch it up more yk? does this even make sense...... . hhhh anyway i might won't even like it and i'll want to just go back to hehim but i wanna try... JUST TO SWITCH IT UP.
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thistledropkick Ā· 2 days ago
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So uh... Immediately after Wrestle Kingdom, the big show that brings in both new and lapsed NJPW fans, and Wrestle Dynasty, the AEW crossover show that was intended to bring new overseas fans to NJPW... New Japan management decided to take the only commentary staff member who speaks any Japanese at all off commentary for two months? So the only remaining English language commentator will just not have any clue what anybody is saying during the entire show? Right when a large influx of new English speaking fans is expected? And they're doing all this just as Kidani, who owns NJPW's parent company, was complaining to Tokyo Sports about how NJPW isn't getting enough overseas fans? Have I got that right?
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pastara-cell Ā· 5 days ago
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ā€œOBJECTION! LACK OF FATHER FIGUREā€
I firmly believe that drew is going to be a prosecuting attorney when he grows up. Heā€™s got the entire ass starter kid dude! Comes from a rich family, probably has major trust issues (especially after jake), and heā€™d 100% pull out an updated autopsy report just cause he could lmfao
I think heā€™d be a prosecuting prodigy, winning basically every case he ever does right out of law school. He makes sure to point out every little detail, and is very good at jumping to correct conclusions, even with little amounts of evidence.
And at the end of the day, after beating his cases, he comes home and enjoys a little snuggle with his joyfriend :3
(My dad got the whole Ace attourney series for me so I celebrated by making a whole ass au with future professions)
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feathertailedcentipede Ā· 10 months ago
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would it be fair to say that "asexuals can still have sex though" is pretty much the same as saying "lesbians can still fuck men though"?
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mushroominaforest Ā· 1 month ago
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How are ya doing
I was having a pretty good week, then at school I got told to call my mom and while my mom was yelling at me over the phone I came across what I assume can only be an omen of death so uh. Probably not a good sign
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ghostclowning Ā· 1 year ago
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nyanyanyanšŸ¾ cause that vocaloid song is so them
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