#goncharov

[pierog]

i'm so glad goncharov happened when it did, right before prolific public use of AI. that was pure honest gaslighting straight from the heart. real human whimsicality and trickery thru blood sweat and tears. we were a family. and we all gonched, together. you cant replicate that with any machine.

[alixero]

Muppet Goncharov

STOP no more live-action remakes. We're going the other way now. Animated Casablanca. Animated The Godfather. Animated Oppenheimer. Animated Fight Club.

[rachel-sez]

Standing in a checkout line, when an older man asks me about my Goncharov t-shirt. I say "It's a movie, " when the person behind me chimes in, "Oh, yes, Scorsese."

The original gentleman goes on to tell me about the author Goncharov, his favorite of his novels, and a famous character from one of the novels. The three of us discuss whether the main character in the movie is intentionally named after the author, referencing that character, or whether it just sounded good to the film maker. We discuss how steeped the movie is in symbology.

Two of us are having a very different conversation than the third.

[krash-8]

years and years of language and communication just so I can fully comprehend the post someone made saying "goncharov is on poob"

[cassianandfenrysaremyboyos]

Goncharov coming third in tumblr's top 100 movies of 2023 is so damn funny. Imagine being a film studio exec who spent millions making some of the other 97 movies listed below it only to be beaten by a film that cost exactly zero dollars to make and doesn't exist

[oldtvandcomics]

They also have Mališa: A Bird's Eye View of The Assassination That Triggered The Great War.

Winter has arrived on Poob.

Start your 7 day free trial of Poob today, and watch smash hit Martin Scorcese's Goncharov.

[annabelle--cane]

you have no idea how much it pains me that I can't watch goncharov. I want to watch this movie so bad it makes me look stupid.

[bigfoots-biggest-fan]

if the rumours are true and Tumblr does end up shutting down at least we'll leave a legacy of [checks notes] making up a movie and [squints] getting the f slur to chart

[haveyouseenthismovie-poll]

[art by @beelzeebub ]

[mousenoseopera]

The fanon is not the canon. Don't like the canon? Stay in the fanon. There's certainly plenty of it.

Not to start discourse but I will be forever mad that every time I go into the Goncharov tag I see people complaining that they watched the movie expecting a soft queer romcom about pure cinnamon rolls and instead they got a complex and violent film about deeply flawed people where everyone dies.

By all means, engage in fandom however you choose. But don’t blame the source material for not being consistent with some random fanon on tumblr. Kinda wild to get mad that the movie about violent, morally dark grey criminals has violence, crime and moral greyness in it. You know? Also, imho given the time this movie was made, the queer coding was daring; this is NOT an example of queerbaiting.

[coraclavia]

of all Riccardo Estli's compositions, I think "Katya's Waltz" from the Goncharov score is one of his most beautiful

[razielim]

Contrary to popular belief, "gancho" is not the Herdazian word for "boss" or some equivalent meaning, it is actually short for "Goncharov," a beloved national stage play first put on some fifty years ago which speaks to the Herdazian soul with delicate themes of fraternity and five-dimensional Towers levels of intrigue. The play's central figure Goncharov looms large over all Herdazian understandings of what it means to be family, not by blood but by loyalty.

[onetimemacaroni]

Something that really bugs me about Goncharov is I feel like not enough people consider the reason why the movie was made. In the 1970s Italy had the largest communist party in Europe that wasn’t part of the Soviet Bloc, and there always was a very real possibility of Italy becoming a communist state. Scorsese is American-Italian and has Italian citizenship, he would’ve known this when making the movie.

Goncharov takes on a distinct Anti-communist and anti-collectivist tone for a reason, and it’s because Scorsese was aware of the immense amount of social and political turmoil that communism would bring to southern Italy. I mean, the film opens with Goncharov shooting the Soviet Ambassador on his way to Rome, which eventually leads to the Italian army imposing the crackdown on Naples and Goncharov’s death at the end of the film, but the reasoning behind the killing is very apparent: if Italy became a socialist nation, Goncharov and other members of Italy’s mafias would be ruined both economically and socially. Socialist tendencies like collectivism and the state monopoly on politics would crush Mafia culture and power, which is centered around corruption and the ability for individuals to circumvent the system via political leverage. Most Mafias are also very conservative politically, because conservatives and other right leaning groups give Mafia’s more leeway and control. Communism, which is the most left leaning political ideology there is, wouldn’t. This would utterly ruin Goncharov and his gang and they would rather die (and eventually do) than see it happen.

The climax of the film sees the Italian army and Naples police engage in a brief but brutal struggle overnight against the various Naples mafia groups for control over the city, where the Mafia hoist the flag of the independent kingdom of the two sicilies, which ruled from Naples before being annexed by the Kingdom of Italy. This is the Mafia re-asserting political control over Naples, because for most of the film the Gangs and families are fighting amongst one another while their political power is being stripped away. The Mafia (& by extension, Goncharov) do this because they are fighting to keep Communism out of their home. There’s a reason why there’s no villain in these final scenes, just endless waves of faceless & nameless Italian soldiers dressed in red shirts. They represent both collectivist communists that do not have any concept of the individual self, and the members of Giuseppe Garibaldi’s (who was a socialist himself) expedition of a thousand, which was a military invasion of the Two Sicilies that led to the dissolution of the Two Sicilies as an independent nation. The members of this expedition wore red shirts. Meanwhile, the various Mafia groups all wear mismatched uniforms, and we’ve spent the last 2 hours of the film getting to know them, and each of them has their own death scenes, representing their fall to the ideology the movie portrays as fundamentally incompatible with who we’ve seen these people to be.

I see a lot of people complaining about the fact that Goncharov takes on these individualist, anti-communist tones and isn’t the uwu sad gay boy soft story they want, but for crying out loud the tagline of the film is “Winter comes to Naples” (in reference to the Soviet Union, which is in cold climate) and the most famous poster shows the Kremlin, and the film is from 1973 and was written by an American, of course the film is going to be anti-communist. I just wish people would stop and try and understand the thing that the film literally shoves in your face, which is that communism is incompatible with the ways in which some people live their lives and they would rather die than be socialist. Also the North-South divide in Italy is fucked and it prevents a lot of things from happening in the country.

[kingtheannoying]

No now it's only on poob

While making dinner tonight, I very very fleetingly, but very seriously and legitimately thought “I should watch Goncharov tonight”

And then I Remembered.

[eblu3]

OF COURSE THEY BLAZED IT LMAO

[turntaxesgayer]

Goncharov was special because not only did we establish canon, we created a whole fanon gay interpretation and proceded to ignore the (not even real) original in favour of it. And thats what tumblr is all about.