#which is so interesting because they're so similar and they both love buck so much (just in different ways obviously)
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re: tommy and his involvement in the S8 opening disaster
we obviously haven't seen the final part of the premiere yet, and we have no way of knowing if tommy's involved in the rescue in any capacity. however, i think we can safely assume that he is not landing the plane (which, after watching 8x02, i can't say i'm disappointed about) or assisting with the landing from the ground. 911 is a show that, while dramatic, remains grounded in reality. it bases the emergency calls on real-life events, though amped up for entertainment purposes.
tommy is a pilot, yes, but we don't know for sure if he flies both helicopters and planes. even if he knows how to land a commercial plane, that's great—but why choose a random firefighter, who may only be slightly familiar with the process, over an expert in the field? i love the theory, but it was far-fetched from the start, given that 911 isn't, as some might believe, that unrealistic in the events it portrays.
i think IF tommy is involved, the best-case scenario is that his primary role will be connected to buck (let's keep in mind that tommy isn’t a main character; he is a supporting character whose primary role is to serve as a love interest for one of the main characters. while he exists as a character in his own right, separate from buck, his role primarily centers on being buck’s love interest, whether we like it or not). i think he might worry because when the 118 arrives at the scene, buck's nowhere to be found, and then he learns he's on the highway with bobby while the plane is coming straight at them. once the plane has landed and everything is more or less under control, he and buck will reunite and that will likely be the extent of it. this is what i hope to see, but i'm ready for the possibility that i might be setting myself up for disappointment.
if tommy is involved but his role isn't connected to buck, i would expect him to be in the background, simply doing his job. then, if the show includes scenes centered around individual main characters, we may see him interact with buck in relation to their relationship.
i think these are the most plausible options for tommy in the 8x03. there is also a possibility that he won't appear in that episode at all (or that he will appear only in the individual scene with buck), but personally, i think it would be a strange choice, given that 217 is at the scene.
unless we don't see him next week, i can't say i'm disappointed with how this opening disaster has played out. i thought i would be, but after seeing 8x02, i realized it's much better this way. i love the idea of tommy helping to land the plane, and i beg my fellow fanfiction writers to make the best of this concept. i think it would work great in fanon, but i don't think it would translate effectively to canon, especially now.
this is not the buck and tommy show; it's 911. and once again, tommy is not a main character; he's a recurring love interest. buck and tommy's romance has only just begun, and they're still in the early stages of their relationship. we need them to build that connection, and the writers need to make the GA care more about (buck)tommy before we can get some gut-wrenching, heartfelt moments similar to those bobby and athena have. for now, we might get only small parallels, if anything, and that's okay. we need time to get to the big moments so that they can hit harder.
why create a plane disaster and not involve buck's hot pilot boyfriend in a significant way? well, perhaps the opening disaster is meant to set the tone for S8, suggesting that we’ll see more air rescues in the future. it might also serve as an opportunity to introduce us to the 217 team, allowing us to get to know one or two of tommy’s coworkers who could come in handy as the show progresses. it could also foreshadow a significant event later in the season involving buck and tommy, such as a helicopter crash. maybe tim also wanted to give buck and tommy the chance to work on the same call together? or perhaps he simply thought it would be exciting for 9-1-1 to tackle a plane disaster, without any specific implications for our favourite pairing.
either way i do think that as the show progresses, we'll see tommy become more involved, not only in his relationship with buck but also in the central dynamics of the show with the other characters. we just need to give it time and have trust—rome wasn't built in a day, after all. let's just appreciate what we have now and avoid being greedy. i think tim's doing a great job so far of balancing everything for the audience. as fans of the show, i think we should be grateful for that.
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This feels accurate
Q. That episode was way over-hyped and I'm not sure why Oliver felt the need to gush about it so much.
A. Oliver enjoyed a Buck heavy episode. The Denny/Karen/Hen plot was the heavy plot (and to me was the plot that didn't fit the way the episode was hyped). But I think that plot was used just as a way to introduce the conflict that Hen and Karen will have this season, Karen believing Hen isn't present enough. Buck's plot was the Halloween fun everyone claimed they wanted. But what most people seem to have meant by 'fun', and I am also guilty of this, was relationship trouble for Buck. And that wasn't what Oliver meant by fun. The other problem people are having, at least according to my ask box, is people still want and expect Tommy to start being portrayed as a bad guy and that's absolutely not how the show is writing him. The show is not telling the story of Tommy the bad guy. The show is telling the story of how Tommy being perfectly fine for Buck doesn't make him right for Buck. And after watching the episode a second time I think that was the entire point of all of his scenes. Tommy tried and for the most part he was fine. Which I think was the point. I have said repeatedly that the show does not view Tommy as a bad guy, and that's also why I always believed his past wouldn't be the reason for their breakup. The show doesn't want him viewed as a bad guy. He's just not right for Buck.
Eddie and Tommy reacted very similarly to Buck in this episode. In fact Eddie and Tommy's surface level similarities were quite present in all of their scenes, but Eddie gets the benefit of the audience knowing that even when he seems exasperated there's always a level of fondness and genuine understanding of Buck that coexists within that. Eddie gets the benefit of familiarity and belonging. A theme that was abundant throughout Buck's plot in this episode. And I think that was intentional (and just because it still bugs me, I will also say again that in terms of scene chemistry Ryan and Lou work much better together than Oliver and Lou ever have). Tommy was consistently shown as the obvious outsider in his scenes. Take the scenes when he's visiting Buck in the hospital, and again when he calls Eddie to come tend to Buck's face as examples (super interesting that he was the one who called Eddie by the way because even Tommy already knows Eddie is the one Buck will actually listen too). Eddie was the one placed in the typical partner role in both of those scenes. Eddie was the one that didn't need to be there, but Tommy was the one who actually felt out of place. And Tommy being an outsider was driven home with the group text scene. He's not part of the group, something that I think will come back around when it is time to start relationship drama. And as a side note, it was kind of glaringly noticeable how Buck and Tommy didn't touch, even in instances where they definitely should have, at least in some capacity. I don't know if that's the show helping out two actors who seemingly aren't super comfortable with one another, or if it was a deliberate story choice. Either way it was awkward. The Eddie of it all is the unknown. We don't yet know the actual plan for Eddie, and while it still feels like a sexuality arc, I don't know how much of that we will actually get in episode 6. One thing I do want to point out that also feels super noticeable is the fact that while Buck and Eddie are clearly consistently talking they're clearly not talking about anything really meaningful. Eddie has talked, albeit briefly, about Christopher with everyone but Buck. The one person who loves and misses Christopher almost as much as Eddie does. I feel like they both tend to believe that once they talk about something together that something becomes real and as long as they don't talk about it together they can kind of collectively be in denial about it. I do think this season they are going to have to have some big boy conversations though. Episode 6 calling back to Eddie Begins should open the door to conversations the two can't keep putting off, especially if the plan is to put them together. This got long, anon but the gist is basically the actors are allowed to like parts of their stories that are not about Buddie, even when we don't always particularly like them, lol. It was a good episode. And was actually quite a bit about Buddie and Buck's relationships in general. It just didn't do what lots of people talked themselves into thinking it was going to do, but that doesn't make it a bad episode. We have 13 episodes to go. I would advise everyone to take a deep breath and ignore the nonsense others might try to create.
Thank you for dropping this in my inbox Nonny!
I'm not going to repeat all the things I've talked about in my previous posts about the same subjects, but I agree with a lot of Ali's observations and conclusions here.
I also think that people need to step away from thinking that every single episode Eddie is going to stand up and declare himself queer before kissing Buck stupid.
This is a delicate storyline that'll take some time to build up. They'll get there in the end, but I really do think they'll take the rest of season 8 to get there. And that's fine. At least then they'll have time to do this story justice.
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Okay i am SO excited that people were interested so here it is. I need to preface this with the fact that it won't be totally 1-to-1.
9-1-1/The West Wing Fusion crossover AU thing
SO, i already said Bobby is the President. Not only does it make sense for his relationships with everyone else, but he is also very similar to Bartlett in a lot of ways: the Catholicism, the hidden illness (Jed's MS and Bobby's Alcoholism and PTSD), the strong moral compass and the way they are always everyone's go-to for advice. Also the way they deal with problems and conflict.
Athena is obviously FLOTUS. Unfortunately i suffer with Can't-Stand-Athena Disease, so i'm leaning on my love of Abbey for this one. But they're both very capable, intelligent women who can't be told what to do. Both are completely devoted to their families and are even self-destructive with that love sometimes. (Athena going after Amir (DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THAT - FUCKING ACAB) and Abby secretly treating Jed's MS and putting her lisence in question).
May and Harry should take on the roles of Zoey and Ellie respectively. May still being the older sibling, i just think they fit the personalities of the siblings better that way. Harry being distant and aloof until they have a breakthrough, May being close to the family and friendly with the other staffers. Also the Charlie/Zoey of it all.
Hen (my beloved) is Chief of Staff. This feels obvious. She's already Bobby's second in command, she's got the instict for it, and the respect of all the others. I also think she would still have a fire fighting background and she got into politics later. I just think that experience would be vital for her as COS, similar to Leo's military service. I also think a professional history like that would also commmand respect from strangers.
For Deputy Chief of Staff I'm (perhaps predictably) going with Eddie. I was toying with the idea of it being Chim but you'll see why i didn't got there when i explain his role. But yeah, Eddie's perfect for this one. Both he and Josh are dramatic about everything, they both have well-meaning hearts that sometimes results in them doing or saying stupid shit, they have deepseated issues that cause them to push people away. Also, need i say it? SHOOTING ARC! This also (again predictably i fear) allows for the EPIC ROMANCE of Josh and Donna to be mapped onto Buddie.
Which brings me of course to Buck. He's gotta be Donna. They've got the shared history of failed relationships with some not great people (but remain hopeless romantics anyway), Buck flitting from job to job and Donna not having much work experience go hand on hand too. Also they're both very capable and intelligent but hide it/don't realise that fully. I like to think that Maddie qas the one to get him his job amd Eddie was just a bit too scared to question her.
Now Maddie. This might be an unpopular decision because on the surface they are nothing alike, but I'm putting Maddie in Toby's spot. Not only does she suit Director of Communications perfectly – Maddie is the fucking QUEEN of coomunication (season 5 notwithstanding lol) but she and Toby share a lot of their values. Sure, Toby's a miserable, pessimistic asshole about it, but they both believe in a very black and white definition right and wrong. They are both loyal to a fault (even Toby's treason was an act of loyalty you can fight me on this but you will LOSE) and do everything they can to protect the people they love. Also i just love them both so much i want to fuse them into one because it makes me feel like a mad scientist in a lab trying to create the perfect character out of goo and slime and glitter.
Anyway! For Maddie's second, I'm really not sure. I was thinking maybe Linda or Josh but neither fit particularly well to me. Idk, let me know what you guys think.
Okay. Chim. Think how perfect he'd be as Press Sec. Please. That man is BORN to be on camera. He's charismatic and friendly and relatable, he comes across as approachable but fr who would cross him if he put his foot down? No one! Also. I IMPLORE you to please imagine him doing the Jackal. It was so hard to figure out who i'd trust to take up the mantel of CJ "baddest bitch around" Cregg because i love her so much but when i started to consider Chimney it felt obvious 😅 i also just think he'd love to have the opportunity to evicerate an asshole on live television, and he DESERVES that opportunity too. And if you were wondering: Yes I DO ship CJ and Toby. Hence Madney being their counterparts.
Now for my boy Charlie!!! It of course HAS to be Ravi!! Those boys are the sweetest loveliest boys on the planet! They pair up so well! I also have a headcanon that, similar to Charlie, Ravi has younger siblings he's always had to take care of because their mum died and their dad worked too much. So. Yeah. Also lowkey May x Ravi nation where are you please accept me into your ranks.
Anyway, i hope this is acceotable to everyone who was interested. I might write something in this AU one day but if you have ever interacted with me before you should know not to hold your breath lmao
Tagging @pangrams-n-palindromes from my other post so they see this, I hope that's okay!
#911 on abc#911 abc#the west wing#bathena#madney#buddie#bobby nash#athena grant#may grant#harry grant#henrietta wilson#hen wilson#eddie diaz#evan buck buckely#maddie buckley#maddie han#maddie buckley han#howard chimney han#chimney han#ravi panikkar
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High points and question points of 23.5, episode 7:
1) The mood is so much better. It's cute! Fon Kanittha does a wonderful job of focusing on elements of family and community in her pieces -- I love that she doesn't keep Ongsa's and Alpha's parents behind a curtain, that they're responsive to the nostalgic joys of watching a group of high schoolers commune and find each other.
2) Having Ongsa and Sun confirm their relationship while Ongsa was wearing a traditional outfit meant a lot. It's a visual bucking of an expectation of how a "woman should behave." Ongsa was of course gorgeous, but the shots of her holding Sun with those big gold bangles also meant that she was taking tradition to a new place, creating her own traditions -- all while we know that she was burdened with fear beforehand about publicly going out with Sun, and being afraid that Sun wouldn't feel comfortable being out with Ongsa (which clearly is not the case). (I also loved the move of having Ongsa get out of the first outfit, which was clearly indicative of a lower station than how Sun and Ton think about Ongsa. That was a nice little twist.)
3) @bengiyo mentioned in his Stray Thoughts on this episode that he wished that we could have sat a touch more in Ongsa's discomfort on the above, and I agree. This show is missing an exploration of emotional stuff that we've seen in other pieces by Fon Kanittha, especially, for me, as compared to 10 Years Ticket.
(On the recommendation of @dribs-and-drabbles, I'm giving My Precious a shot this weekend. MP is centered around a core romance, but in this piece, much of the first quarter of the piece is spent building the huge community around the main couple. And we get emotional nuances, wherever they might be, both from the individual characters, AND by learning more about them through each of their sets of parents, very similar to the structure of 10YT. In 23.5, we've rushed through this, or we didn't explore it in full.)
I have a theory: since this is GMMTV's first GL, I wonder if Fon is either intentionally, or being made to, give more attention to love tropes, either by reference to older ones, or creating new ones for GLs. We saw kabedon last week, for instance, and we're seeing a love interest make a turn for their courtier when it seems like their courtier may be straying, etc. (although the latter isn't necessarily specific to BLs). Since My Precious is also airing at the same time, I can't make a judgment as to Fon's takes on pure romance, as 10 Years Ticket was a community-focused lakorn of many stories. But in any case, it's weird that we're seeing these emotional skips. Just a couple more minutes spent, at this very moment, on WHY Ongsa has this (sometimes excruciating) hesitation of speaking and insecurity would be helpful to match what emotion we're seeing out of Sun. And seeing Sun nice and angry and jealous -- again, from my thoughts last week, I thought we'd see that a bit more after the catfishing reveal in holding Ongsa accountable.
I think this need for emotional clarity is dampening my overall embrace for this show, especially because I honestly didn't expect it from Fon Kanittha. But again, I thought the mood of this episode and the consistency of it made more sense than last week.
#23.5#23.5 degrees#23.5 the series#23.5 meta#ongsasun#ongsa x sun#sun x ongsa#milklove#milk pansa#love pattranite#fon kanittha
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Hey so just fyi the B*mmy stans are not happy about us commenting on the newest 911 post so maybe go leave a new comment about how much you're looking forward to Buddie in s8. Don't engage with the B/T shippers and try to keep your comments as something positive.
Despite what this👇 ridiculous post says and despite the bs their fandom tries to peddle I get that when people say they want T*mmy killed off you're just making jokes (people have said similar things about the female love interests too) but especially if you're posting on the official 911 social media make your comments about Buddie and make them something positive. Our fandom is about supporting the amazing love story between these two men. We have a lot of history and depth on our side we don't need to stoop down to the level of the same people who have doxxed journalists because they ship Buddie.
Most of that post I included is just out right lies and them grasping at whatever reasons they can find to defend their ship and explain things like why Oliver hasn't given one single solitary fck about promoting that ship. Ryan has never "shot gay Eddie (or Buddie) down". Calling Eddie straight in an interview doesn't mean he's against Buddie or that is 100% where the story will stay. Buck was straight up until s7 and even if no one ever used the word heterosexual in an article about him a lot of the language used was that way including stuff said by Oliver. Both Ryan and Oliver have always been very supportive of Buddie and both have said they'd be up for it if the story would be taken that way including during interviews that happened during s7.
Trying to use anything the other cast said as a gotcha moment for why Buddie isn't happening just makes them look stupid honestly. The only people who matter when it comes to Buddie happening are Tim, Oliver, and Ryan and they're all on board for it. Also no one else (besides Oliver and Ryan) are going to know it's happening until the scripts are written. The B/T kiss in season 7 was leaked so I'm sure they're going to do as much as they can to keep Buddie going canon (which is a much bigger deal) secret until it happens. So neither Kenney nor JLH would even know until s8 what's going on.
I can't help but laugh at them bringing up those embarrassing cameos. There's every reason to believe that Lou was told by Tim and ABC to stop making them because he kept giving his own headcanons on T*mmy and B/T and making that ship seem so much more important than it ever was intended to be.
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Hi Wolf 💕💕💕
Please share more about headcanons or any other thoughts you have related to Eddie’s dog tags :)
Hi 🪐!!!
So here are the three that I've already sent to @malewifediaz: Buck and Chris wearing Eddie's dog tags after he's gone missing and is presumed dead, Buck railing Eddie into the mattress and the dog tags hanging there between them/Eddie's hand coming up to Buck's chest, and he feels the tags underneath Buck's shirt and the one that I'm turning into my first Christmas Fic mistake identity- Buck is wearing Eddie’s tags when he gets hurt
But I have sooooooo many thoughts- it all started because Amanda wrote a fic i’ll bandage up your body and your bones and your bad days too and in it Buck's wearing Eddie's dog tags:
Buck, who’s halfway through a 24. Buck, who has Eddie’s dogtags around his neck and tucked beneath his uniform shirt.
And I haven't stopped thinking about it since and if I can get Buck wearing Eddie's dog tags in all of my fics I will. Here are a few thoughts that have been bouncing around my head since then:
Eddie and Shannon don't get married when she gets pregnant, Eddie still runs away to the army to "support his child" between tours one and two, Eddie comes home to El Paso and has a hard time adjusting, Chris doesn't know him, his family is hard on him, he gets on well enough with Shannon though she still is like I need a partner. Anyway, he meets Buck who's in his ranch hand era, they have a steamy whirlwind romance and when Eddie goes back to Afghanistan he gives Buck his dog tags. Buck moves on to LA - because he thinks it's over with Eddie (which is kinda is as they leave it on a bad note). Eddie gets injured and discharged and when he gets back to El Paso is hurt to find Buck's left. He and Shannon move to LA to co-parent and help Shannon's mother, Eddie joins the LAFD and runs into Buck - who is still wearing his dog tags- which's revealed later at the angstiest time. - this one would be super long so I'm not going to be writing it anytime soon- if I ever do but I do think its juicy.
Young Buck and Eddie (kinda similar to above) where they're both broke so instead of proposing with a ring, Eddie uses his dog tags- instead.
Historical Buddie- Buck and Eddie meet during WW2 and fall in love, they exchange dog tags before they get separated. They both return to their lives afterwards- no way to find each other- a few years pass and they run into each other- they're still wearing each others tags.
Eddie has a lot of complicated thoughts about his tours and his tags, one day he's going through the box he keeps in his closet, its got his silver star and dog tags and some photos of his friends. Buck finds him siting on his bed with the stuff. Buck shows some interest in the tags and Eddie suggest that he wears them. Buck puts them on and Eddie loves it, loves having his name on Buck-basically its a possessive Eddie fic
Established Buddie, Buck wears Eddie's dog tags at work and it's five times Eddie sees his tags on Buck and it turns him on/he loves it and one time he shows Buck how much he likes it kinda thing- Like they're at a call and the tags slip out from Buck's shirt and someone has been flirting with Buck so Eddie goes over to him and tucks them back in and basically stakes his claim.
I'm just obsessed so thanks for letting me ramble about this!
Mwah <3<3<3
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#anyone want to hear my season 7 buddie spec that has no basis besides the voices in my head? sdoaksoaksokasokasoak yes ! me i always like to read your metas and what you have in mind
thank you for the support oaksoaksoaks
okay, I'm gonna start this off by saying this whole thing hinges on whether or not the show is gonna keep mirroring Buck and Eddie's personal journeys and this is mostly about Buck, I have no idea what they're gonna do with Eddie lol. First of all, @aziraaphales made this set back when the finale aired about the similarities between Buck and Taylor and Buck and Natalia and that illustrates it beautifully, the whole she came back, they seem happy, are they really? and that's a point against Natalia lasting in my opinion. But the thing is, I think Bucktalia also mirrors Eddiana, and that's when things start to get interesting in my brand of insanity. You have Buck treating Natalia's hand, you have Eddie treating Ana's, Ana and Natalia being reduced to their jobs, the first date in broad daylight in a cafe of some sort, a second date at home being interrupted by the rest of their lives (if you push a bit and think about Kameron's pregnancy, both dates are interrupted by their children even if the baby isn't Buck's on the ways that matter), you have the picture-perfect ending at home after a near-death experience, so the parallels are there too. And that means one important parallel, Buck holding on for the wrong reasons the same way Eddie did, which could doom that relationship further, but also leave Buck spiraling. Because if we're comparing personal journeys, Buck is in a state that's a mix of season 4 Eddie trying to be happy through the trauma and outside looking in/fear-o-fobia Eddie. I think we can even directly parallel some stuff, like, I truly believe the cemetery is the way Buck would handle the outside looking in kitchen talk if that went the other way around.
But the thing is, Buck needs to deal with the shit that happened to him before getting together with Eddie so I'm choosing to look at these as fuel for my Buck Breakdown beliefs. Unlike Eddie, Buck actually died, so that changes the dynamic a little bit, there's also the way that Buck doesn't care about his own life enough to break over dying, but while Eddie's PTSD has many triggers, the thing that actually breaks him is the knowledge that he didn't save the people he thought he saved. So my grand theory here is something happening to Maddie, Bobby, or Christopher that makes Buck lose it. I don't really think they would do something to Chris, but using him would have a similar effect if it wasn't for the fact that it would also break Eddie. Eddie himself doesn't count in this situation unless is both Eddie and Chris, because Buck would be forced to keep it together if something happened to Eddie for Chris' sake. Or maybe if they like, killed off the Buckley parents and forced Buck to deal with that grief. But Maddie or Bobby, dangerous situation, close call, hospital stay, honestly, something that would leave them in enough danger to trigger Buck, low-key don't think you need much to trigger that man. But trigger, Buck losing it, Eddie talking Buck down (how would Eddie find out Buck is losing it? I don't know, plot convenience, I like the idea of divorced-era Buddie and Eddie storming the loft because he's tired of Buck's bullshit and finding him, or maybe someone from dispatch calls Eddie because there's been a call from Buck's address, I don't know, they can get creative there), Buck working towards working his own shit out. But we're in this weird season 4/season 5b mix, right? How do we end s4? Near-death experience that calls back to a previous trauma, big revelation, aborted love confession.
One thing I refuse to compromise on is the fact that Eddie had his oh! moment during the shooting (it's my truth I am not letting it go) so you can probably see where I'm going here, right? A Buck in a better mind space almost dying by chance, getting saved by Eddie, and realizing something. You see the vision? Current vision goes back and forth between equipment malfunctioning, Buck falling, and Eddie being the only one close enough to get to him, this usually goes around a cliff, a bridge, and Buck falling into water (I know the truck bombing is not technically equipment malfunction but equipment did try to kill him, and water is Buck's worst enemy lol), or Buck and Eddie stopping to help someone, and shit going to hell, this vision usually goes with Buck and Eddie seeing a car crash of some sort, again someone drove off a cliff or off a bridge, they go to help, Buck gets trapped in the car, Eddie needs to save him (trapped under a vehicle, water) or just straight up having them drive of a bridge. Because something really big about the shooting is the way that, one it happened by chance, two they weren't supposed to be there, three Buck didn't have anyone he trusted there so he did the saving alone, and four by having Eddie get shot, you're bringing up why he left the army. So with Buck, if they stick to this pattern, you need to drown him or trap him under something, or both. And you have the way the lightning parallels the well and the shooting, and the well triggered something for Eddie, you have the whole you need to keep fighting, find your own way out, the suffocation aspect for both of them when you realize Eddie is about to drown and Buck's lungs are not working, and also the way Buck is supposed to learn something during his coma that could lead to a conversation similar to the will reveal. This is when the vision gets cloudy. Because ideal world, the reveal is Buck's feelings and we don't have an aborted love confession, we have a plain old confession, but the aborted route is always a possibility with a see you in season 8 thing.
But yeah, Buck breakdown, Buck starting to deal with his shit, near-death experience, Eddie having to save him alone, tense conversation after. I'm also slightly obsessed with what could happen in a scene where Eddie is dragging Buck out of the water, cpr, mouth to mouth, "you're not doing this to me again", Buck coughing up water while sitting up, Eddie catching him, "I got you, I got you". The possibilities are ENDLESS. Just put Ryan's emotional power to work. All those fun things oskaoskaoskoaksas
Also, this mostly hinges on Buck doing something to change their relationship because considering Buck tripped into 4 relationships, he needs to start this one. I'm a firm Buck needs to do something first believer. Buck's endgame relationship needs to start with him making a move. Also, my whole Buck needs to choose thing is all about Shannon saying that Eddie keeps making all the choices, so Eddie needs to let go of control and Buck needs to go for what he wants.
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Part 1- Chip
Part 2- Flint
Part 3- Dave
Best Friends
Graham and Belle
Belle is everyone's grandma/friend, so naturally this includes Graham too! Graham never really had a grandma figure growing up, as his mother's mom was nasty and his father’s mother was too sick to travel out of the country. Suitopia is one of several countries that are part of the main cog continent, and the country Graham’ father comes from is on the opposite side of the continent from Suitopia.
Graham and Buck
These two are quite similar, which leads to them either getting along or butting heads sometimes. Things are generally pretty good between them though.
Graham and Dana
I feel like these two would have similar interests, and Dana is definitely Graham’s favorite other sellbot. Dana does have to reign him in sometimes when they're hanging out though.
Friends
Graham and Misty
Misty was a little intimidated by him at first, but Flint and Dave helped the two get along. They don't hang out much unless with others because of their different interests and personalities though.
Graham and Will
I don't know why I put it as neutral here, as while these two wouldn't be close friends I wouldn't describe it as neutral. They would only hang out when others are present because of their differing personalities and interests though.
Graham and Alton
Despite their wildly different interests and lifestyles, their similar personalities allow these two to get along and take interest in each other's interests.
Graham and Desmond/Wilde
Desmond and Wilde get along with Graham because of their connection to Dana, but they don't really hang out unless Dana is present.
Graham and Winston
Winston thinks Graham is fun to hang out with, and Graham likes showing Winston all of the wonders of the modern world that he missed out on while in the dungeon.
Graham and Thomas
These two get along because of Flint, and while they don't have many shared interests Graham is grateful for what Thomas did for Chip and how the cog continues to advocate for the managers however he can.
Dislike
Graham and Tawny
Despite being coworkers that work in the same area, the two keep butting heads and don't really get along. It's mostly because Tawny finds Graham annoying. There's nothing malicious between the two though, and they'll help each other out if necessary.
Graham and Cathal
Dumb little sibling esc rivalry
Graham and Prestor
I love the dynamic of these two because they are complete opposites, and yet still have to work together sometimes because Graham is better at technology than Holly and Prestor’s temper just bounces right off of him. Cue millennial vs boomer shenanigans!
Graham and the CFO/old CLO
Not much to say here except he finds them annoying lol
Hate
Graham and Brian
These two never got along, constantly getting on each other's nerves and butting heads over sellbot stuff. That's why Graham felt bitter when he learned that Brian was one of the managers selected to bring cogs.ink up from collapse instead of him. After project overdrive started, Graham hates everything about the other cog. Not just because of what Brian has done to Graham and the other managers, but because in Graham’s eyes Brian’s success and control over him represents Graham’s failures and how he feels both betrayed and used by the company he worked so hard to please. Graham also hates that Brian of all cogs can get him to emotionally break when he hates crying in front of everyone except for Flint and maybe his best friends and family.
Graham and Ben
These two actually got along alright, but didn't really hang out much outside of work because of their differing interests. After project overdrive started, Graham feels a mixture of hatred and fear towards this man. That fear lessens over time, but Ben can read Graham like an open book and fuck with his head. That and Ben having little respect for Graham means that Ben is happy to toss this man around like a ragdoll either in cog form or while overdrived, and Graham can't fight back because him and Flint will get hurt. That is, until Ben and Brian’s downfall that Graham relished in.
Graham and the CEO
Didn't like him already because of override and how he treated Flint, started hating him after project overdrive started.
Graham and the CLO
Hates how a woman as cruel as her has power over 1/5 of the company, and would rather have the old guy back than this bitch.
Graham and the Chairman
Ohhhh SO much resentment and grief over how Graham just wasn't good enough for the Chairman, and thus he became a company pawn to be thrown around and forced to kill. Graham doesn't care that Robert was blackmailed into most of it, he's still resentful as hell.
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I both welcome the Iona posting, love your consistent pro bisexual stance and get that sometimes you just gotta seek out the worst take of your life, because brains are weird. Have a great day
Aww, thank you, that's so sweet! ❤️❤️ I'm glad you enjoy both those things- I can say with certainty that it will all continue, lol.
I mean, how could it not. Have you seen this woman?
Have you beheld her little face? Witnessed her (bisexual) swag and cute new outfit? Caressed her sweet cheeks (and i'm talking about both face-cheeks and butt-cheeks) with a tender, loving touch? No?
Well, you should. So hop on that.
..... but jokes aside, honestly, while it is sometimes just very simply funny (or even somewhat cathartic in a way) to read the completely off the wall, buck wild takes that some people may post, I do find it to be semi-important (at least to me personally), to have at least a cursory awareness of as many possible reads of a piece of media as it's.... I guess feasible to be aware of. Mostly as a way to try and step outside of the paradigm in which I know I normally exist, but sometimes also just as a way to sort of check myself, and confirm that at least I don't seem to have X bias, or haven't misread something by that much, lol.
Like, I was still taught (rigorously, over and over again, in every single class I have ever taken that had anything to do with literary-/media-analysis) that as long as you can find confirmation of your interpretation within the base text and aren't explicitly contradicted by other parts of it, any subjective interpretation can be just as valid as another. So it always fascinates me a bit when I see someone ignore this very basic tenet, and kind of pick and choose which bits of the base text (whatever that "text" may be) they want to take into account, and which parts they want to ignore for no reason other than that it doesn't fit their view.
How unwilling certain people are to change their minds if the text happens to contradict their initial assumptions, that's just so wild to me.
I'm obviously not saying that any base text would be prefect and without flaws or potential contradictions, but so often, the fervor with which people can cling to certain interpretations (even if they're contradicted consistently at every turn, are called out for bigotry in it, and their theories fall apart at the first deeper glance) is just so interesting.
I'm not exactly sure where I'm really going with this, it's quite late and I'm a bit loopy- I'm kind of just rambling a little bit at you and can't think of a way to end this, so look at my pretty, shrewd, slimy vixen of a woman instead.
I bet Astarion even calls her a vixen sometimes. Like I may see her as more similar to a weasel if we're going for animal symbolism (small. semi-feral. cute little face. will absolutely fuck you up.), but a fox is undoubtedly a more flattering comparison. Plus, "oh, you vixen❤️" is definitely a far sexier thing to purr into one's lover's ear than "my darling little weasel❤️".
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Okay, caught up to the episode fully at long last.
And holy fuckin' shit. Buck!whumpees getting served... all of the pain and angst and yikes and the coma.
Some things I just need to spew out, even though none of it makes sense or is supposed to, but I just need to get it out of the system.
Bobby and Buck
The parallel of Bobby holding the baby and then later holding on to Buck as he's lowered down... OMFG. The fact that he says similar words "c'mere, kid", "c'mon, kid"... I just can't. They're so sick for this. And I'm so sick for this. This is so sick, sick, sick. And I'm here for it, crying my eyes out.
Also, magnificent callback to how the two began and how they clashed in the first ever episode. As I've mentioned in a previous post, I'd LOVE (and be deaded by it) to see Bobby coming more into his own as a father figure for Buck. It's something he's more or less shied away from, as he's done with Athena's kids, until a life-threatening situation come along. And boy, here it is.
Time to make that adoption official, Bobby. Boy's up for grabs.
Also also, the chili scene (weird name, but hey). For one, we get kind of a reverse between the two (Buck doing the cooking, Bobby going down internet research rabbit holes, which is a very Buck thing to do). But then Buck asking about the secret ingredient (and it ain't about the chili). And while Bobby provides him with the answer to perfect the dish, Buck's still none the wiser about what the secret ingredient is to bring his life to perfection.
Am I going to make a stupid joke about chocolate brown eyes factoring into this? No? Good that we all agree that this would be very embarrassing. But still, Eddie totally is the cocoa in that recipe, is all I'm saying.
Also also also, eternally interesting that we have Bobby struggling to move forward after his sponsor's death. And my guessing is that Buck's future now being on the line might just be the right catalyst to break him out of that vicious cycle. Like, him not giving up on figuring out what happened to his friend is good and right (and May's on the right track with it all... even though I am not a fan of civilian investigator doing this because they somehow can for reasons of their parents being in the profession... not a fan of those story lines, even though I love both May and Athena here).
But. There is a level of "obsession" to sticking to the past with Bobby, instead of looking for ways to move forward again. And Buck's accident as well as the recovery might serve just that purpose. To make Bobby see that he has new things to hold on to, a future to live towards. Because he's needed. Like, earlier on in the season, Bobby's been thinking about how the house is empty with the kids out (and he instantly adopted a dog because that guy is just dad shaped). To me, it felt like Bobby's been a bit lost well before things went down with his sponsor.
What's interesting to me is that this is something he shares in with Buck, even though they have very different ways of going about it.
Buck's basically on the opposite trajectory (leaving out the Daniel remark for the moment). Buck is not too invested in looking into the past, he's obsessed with the future (anyone thinking about those software updates again?). He is very much focused on looking ahead (helping to create a life that will reach further into the future, trying to find happiness that lies in the future, etc.).
Also, I will just say. Bobby dares to say "son" instead of "kid" at some point of this arc, I will lose it. Absolutely fuckin' lose it. And I will also totally lose any remaining shit I've got left in me if we see that guy praying for Buck. I cannot. I just cannot.
Buck noticing the small things but losing the big picture out of sight
Gotta say, I loved how they've built up the tension, and I felt like it reflected a lot in Buck noticing "small" things, until the big thing hit him in a flash. Buck saw the gasoline and stopped with the saw before sparks could fly. Crisis averted. He notices that the chili is missing a key ingredient. He is aware (has no real illusions) about how his parents may have just wanted to win an argument and how they do not approve of his life choices. He kept tabs on who went up the ladder truck when, which is why he knows it's his turn now. He notices something's off about the sounds in the sky. And then, hit in a flash.
In a way, I find that somewhat reflective of what we've seen with Buck thus far. Sure, he's made some truly life-changing decisions (hence big pictures). But in his quest for "true happiness" he's been all over the place.
He took inventory, got that armchair instead of a damned couch (obsessed about said couch to a very confused Bobby). Started with those self-help books. He hears about how Lucy may have been interim captain, which has him wonder about the big picture of where he fits in the firehouse in the future. The donor vs. dad thing - and how "the small deed" of filling a cup contributes to the big picture for someone else. Lev and him talking about what's potentially in store for him and Buck thinks the big milestones (wife, kids, house, you name it) are still on the horizon for him. But that's really just the details.
So my guessing is that they may want to hit the point home that Buck looks at the whole of it. To figure out what his true happiness is (and that he already has most of it, maybe just need that one co-worker to smooch him for good).
Parenthood
I felt like it was a very interesting choice that parenthood (and to a larger degree fatherhood, I felt) was at the forefront in an episode that ended on this... high note. Especially since one infamous father and certified DILF was not at all that present for that convo.
Like, I found it very deliberate that Eddie didn't factor into the fatherhood storyline as he normally would have. Because that is what we normally have when Buck's supposed to relate to his own position towards fatherhood, tangling things up with Eddie and Christopher (which, you know, Buddie).
Part of it, going by the stills, will be that they save it up for next week's episode (so I may never stop crying in my entire life over Christopher being at Buck's bedside). But I find it very interesting that they "removed" Christopher and Eddie as filters for Buck to reflect fatherhood through. And now we may very well get Eddie having to reflect on it without the Buck filter. Which is to say: He has to think about what it'd be like to be a father to Christopher without Buck in the picture. Which is interesting. To say the least. And potentially very, very gay. In the best possible way. Anywho.
Then we had other (grand-) father figures (Philip and Chim's father). I'm still pretty blank on what they wanna do with Chim and his father, to be honest. Also, Albert's way of acting keeps striking me as though there's more to it. I'm not yet sure what it is, but we'll have to see. I found it wonderful to have Hen tell Chimney that he should use his chance to say what he has to say (and reach some kind of conclusion that she's never gotten). After his father deprived him of the chance for all those years. And I do hope it offers him healing. But yeah, I'd have to sit on that a while longer.
So on to Philip... still somewhat a mystery to me, that dude. Like, was he really invested in "defending" his son, or was he - as Buck noted - maybe just not willing to let Chim's father have the last word on it? I am honestly unsure. I felt like him and Margaret were making an effort (as Chim noted, only on their best behavior). But I'm not entirely sure if that's coming from a genuine place of wanting to mend things with their kids. Or if they are much more focused on having that relationship with Jee as grandparents (you know, fresh starts and all). Like, as sweet as it was to see Margaret goof around with Jee (and what may come to highlight how far she's come along with her therapy)... it might also be rather bitter in the end. That she can be like this to her grandchild - but not to her own children.
What both fathers share in, to me at least, is how vastly different they are from Bobby as a father figure for Buck (and how inferior, really). Bobby's offering of advice and support comes from a genuine place, it always did. He helps Buck grow, and he's not really concerned to win an argument or to appear as the "better dad" or whatever. Even though he is. Dad shaped man, oh you. Like, it's not about appearances for him. But I feel like for Buck's actual parents, to a degree, it still is. Maybe they'll overcome that, but... I'm not sure.
Speaking of, the Buckley parents. Christ almighty, why does Margaret have to be so cringe sometimes? I guess this proved where Buck got this from at long last, because yeah, that's his mom right there. But. Oh. My. God. Why. Are. You. Like. This???
She really strikes me as the kind of mom that would've made everyone uncomfortable at any kind of school thing (and kudos to the actress for portraying it so well). She's so uptight and weird about it. But she's also nosy, while struggling so hard to let anyone see what cards she's got in her hand. Like, ugh. I can't with those kinds of people.
Her first impulse being that Buck would have a photo of Maddie's sonogram on his phone was both cringe and also so... devastating in a way? Like, great set-up for Buck's character arc here, but... that her first thought's not "oh, my son might be a father!" but that it's "oh, my daughter is gonna be a mom again, and he is also there to be an uncle again!" ... It is very telling, I believe.
Because Margaret and Philip didn't really compute Buck as that kind of person. And I do believe it was a deliberate contrast, after we opened the episode with Buck being great with the kids by the beach. Like, we as the audience know how great Buck is with kids, but for his parents, that's a total mystery.
Which is the absolute antithesis to Eddie telling Buck that he's Christopher's legal guardian. Eddie saw all this time that Buck's dad shaped, too. To the Buckley parents, he's still... anything but that. Margaret literally says to him that he's a "miracle baby", hence not really recognizing him as a rational, capable adult on his quest towards his own sense of fatherhood (son, not father). They still see him more as the troublemaker not ready to settle, it feels like.
Also, "miracle baby". Margaret. Why (yes, I know, for narrative purposes, but OMFG, lady, what the flying fuck's wrong with you???). The Buckley parents continue to push this idea of Buck being a miracle for as long as he provides services to others (either by saving or creating lives). They still have seemingly not grasped how important it is for them to recognize Buck's inherent value as a person and not just as a miracle that keeps on giving.
Also, the wording is just so... cringe. No, he's not a miracle baby. He never was. He was conceived to perform the miracle they could not, with the expectation of being the miracle bringer (and that he later on believed he disappointed said miracle by not being able to save Daniel). Like, Margaret, that's not a miracle baby. That's still a savior sibling you wanted to produce. Even if you put the miracle label on top, that changes nothing about the circumstance.
And if the writers want for them to learn that lesson... it certainly is the right place and time to teach them that. And if not... it will show what stuff they're actually made of, I guess. We'll have to see. As I said in a previous post, I don't know where they want to take the Buckley parents (more towards "redemption" or as the ultimate reminder of the reality that some people won't change out of their ways and that there are those relationships beyond repair).
On a quick side note: Gotta love the parenthood storyline with Hen and Denny. And the detail of her picking up baseball with Eddie when Denny started with it. Oh, I love her. I'll be interested to see how all of that plays out. I just feel like more trouble's ahead.
But. Back to Lightning McQueen I mean Evan (won't ever get over Oliver's facial journey there) I mean Buck and the parenthood issue. Like, I do believe that if we get an alternate scenario (that may very well answer the question what life would be like for him if he had indeed been the miracle baby to save Daniel), Buck will be brought to the realization that the big picture is already in place. With Eddie and Christopher and the 118 and Maddie.
Like, I can very well see them giving him "everything" of the things he told Lev were still on the horizon for him. Only to be dissatisfied, or desperately trying to get back to his reality. Because this is where he belongs. Those are the people he belongs with. And he doesn't need to hold on to a "dream" of being more than the donor in Connor's and Kameron's life to find fulfillment as a person, as a father. Because he's that to Christopher already, a co-parent. And I do believe they might hit that point home for him at long last. And it'd be epic.
In a Flash
I guess I don't have much to add. Everyone's basically expressed my views on it already. The tragic beauty of the red string connecting Buck and Eddie, both getting hit by the same bolt of lightning. Eddie crying out for Buck. Eddie coming to Buck's rescue, his own safety be damned. The Pieta-esque shot when Buck's being lowered to the ground. Eddie doing the whole "move, I'm gay" to get to Buck. Time standing still, only to jump forward after it all happened. The ending of the helmet on the ground... *chef's kiss*
You already are a family
That one struck me a bit. Because Eddie noting that to Buck is great foreshadowing, for one thing. But it might also prove to be the narrative reversal I'd so desperately crave. That Eddie says to Buck "We're already a family." That Buck is part of his family. And that Buck comes to the realization that he is already part of that family and doesn't need to be part of a dream family (his own that never was), or the one Kameron and Connor are building. That he wraps up his inventory and knows that what he wants is what he got - if only he gets to fully embrace his role as father figure to Christopher and certified DILF for Eddie.
Buck and Eddie (duh)
Did you think I'd end this post without obsessing a bit longer about Buddie specifically??? Yeah, no. I'm still not over all the angsty goodness we were given. I'm still at the edge of my seat over what's going on with Eddie (and Christopher) next episode. Will Eddie revert to his old ways and try to be stoic about it to keep face in front of Christopher? Will he break down in the face of the danger of losing yet another partner? Will he pull a Buck and get back into dating to cover up his feelings? Will Eddie's voice bring Buck back? Will it be Christopher's? Will Eddie take Buck's hand and beg him to stay with him? I don't know. All of it would be so epic. And I still can't wrap my head around all of those wonderfully awful options.
Like, there's great potential for Buck to reach some epiphanies, but they are just as well in store for Eddie here. Not only will he be confronted with the reality that he may have to raise Christopher without Buck's presence. But he will also have to reflect hard on why he made the choice to name that man Christopher's legal guardian. Because he could've died up on that ladder all the same, and then Christopher would've been "alone". Like, Eddie will have to think hard about that one. And he'll have to think even harder about why Buck is that person for him. What it means to him personally that he gave Buck that role in not just Christopher's but also in his life.
Plus, we may finally, finally, finally get them to talk about their shared traumas of either having witnessed the other nearly die... or nearly dying. Like, this is a gun that's been hanging on the wall for quite some time now. Time to fire it, right? *pew pew* Because they got very comfortable letting their talks run through the Christopher filter. They do things in Christopher's best interest. But what they still have to do is to talk honestly to each other about this. And that may open the door to something else. And that something else is very, very gay.
So yeah. I'm... not really coherent at this point. This episode was too much. And i may have to sit on that a while longer. Until then: Happy return of the weewoos and the ouchies, peeps!
Cheers!
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This is mostly about Billy because that's the only one I know from your tags but you can answer for all of them. I do plan on watching 9-1-1 soon and would love some motivation on the Evan Buckley front 👀👀👀
HEHE I'm gonna answer for Billy and Buck ♡
Why are they your favorite? Billy - He's my favorite because he's such an interesting character with a relatable backstory. He had so much potential as a character and he's so deserving of love
Buck - Similar reason. He wanted to be loved so desperately by his parents, but he also has amazing character development from the little asshole he is in season one. It's literally like watching him grow up.
Do you have anything in common with them?
Well yes. I was also a little shit when I was younger and have trauma lmao
Do you have any polar opposite traits to them?
Yeah they're white LMFAO
What are your favorite added rep headcanons for them?
I headcanon that Buck and Billy are both bottoms but I kinda think the bottom buck headcanon might be true if you watch season 7 lmao
What's a popular headcanon for them you just can't get behind?
Straight Billy. He's very queer coded to me and I will never see him otherwise.
What's a popular headcanon for them that you adore?
For Billy - Bottom (obviously), Billy being good with kids, Billy being a decent (or terrible) cook, Billy being affectionate
For Buck - Buck being the boyfriend who shows off his boyfriend to everyone, ADHD Buck (which was kinda confirmed by Oliver Stark, the actor but not by the series so I guess it's still a headcanon, but he definitely is neurodivergent af FOR CERTAIN)
'Put that guy into situations' or 'take that guy out of situations'?
Put that guy into situations that are funny/healthy for them. Take that guy out of situations (by killing their parents)
What are your favorite poly ship(s) for them, if any?
I don't like any poly ships for buck. I think Fireflies is cool (Eddie/Buck/Tommy) But I don't ship it enough to explore it myself.
Well, unless you count Eddie/Buck/Clipboard as a ship because Buck and his clipboard is certainly a love affair LMAO
For Billy, I like metalsandwich ♡
What are your favorite mono ship(s) for them, if any?
Harringrove and Buddie are my true loves (I've been exploring bucktommy because it's like a shot of serotonin directly into my brain tho)
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You have already answered similar questions so feel free not to post. I just thought I would share 😊
Q. Where is the Promotional stuff?! What is going on? I need answers. Every show now has a trailer but 911. Is he coming back or not? I need to know something other than Tim is still obsessed with Ryan, haha.
A. Lol, the man is very transparent about his Ryan/Eddie love. He always has been. They're clearly hiding something. I think it was pretty much confirmed that The Rookie was the show something got spoiled for, I don't watch it so I have no clue how big of a spoiler it was. But obviously 911 took the opportunity to button everything up on their end. They clearly don't want something spoiled about the 3 episode event. I think we can pretty safely say there is no kind of AU happening. What we saw was most likely the television show Bobby is consulting on. For all the SPN ptsd's out there freaking out in my ask box, this is an entirely different show. It's not the same thing. However , it would make sense, and in fact be hilarious, if the characters on the show mirrored the real 118. There will be nothing wrong with doing that. We are talking about a Ryan Murphy show. I would be more surprised if they didn't do that.
I think if they drop a trailer it will be during the Family Fued episode. Double the PR in one sitting. They are doing things completely differently this time around. So it's hard to predict. I would imagine we'll get interviews the week leading up to the premier at least. We know Ryan has some sitting out there, and so far they're following the same pattern with Ryan/Eddie that they followed with Oliver/Buck last off-season. Everything else is different. But I would imagine the week leading up to the premier will be pretty PR heavy. Unless they want to hold everything until after the premier. If they're hiding something big we may have to wait. I'm going to address Tommy one more time and one more time only. He is not important enough to feature in anything that is currently taking place. He was made much more important by both fandoms than he ever was going to be to the show. Period. He was never going to be a main. He was never going to be main adjacent. He was a guest star with less than 30 total minutes of screen time. If we get a trailer and he isn't in the trailer I don't think he's returning. The previous seasons love interests have almost always featured in the trailer in some capacity so if they exclude him from that I think it's safe to assume he was let go. The only reason I'm hesitant to say he was fired is because they pinned his Instagram comment. I don't see them pinning a comment from a fired employee. However given everything we have learned about how control heavy Disney is I don't see how he kept his job following the cameo garbage. He clearly broke Disney protocol. So I genuinely don't know. He is very low hanging fruit by Disney standards though so it is what it is. If he shows up for a scene or two or an episode or two it doesn't really matter. He's not going to play any significant role one way or the other. And there is no need to keep talking in circles about it. We have 20 days to go. I'm looking forward to the FF episode and the stuff we will be getting once the season starts (hello Eddie in a church talking to the priest). We'll see what if anything juicy the FF episode provides and we will go from there. 💗
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I really love this as a broader thesis for the show. There's so much here because I'm thinking about how Athena and Bobby's parents were introduced. They obviously have had difficult relationships with one or both or their parents too. It's something we are meant to take note of, but not centralize as the focal point of their present day issues. It's also something that I've gradually had to learn making new friends as an adult when I'm only getting bits and pieces of a whole picture of how someone grew up, and frequently out of self-preservation selectively filtering my own story. That's kind of the misleading thing about the "begins" episodes having that title. We're dropped in the middle of those characters' backstories, with the slight exception of Buck/Maddie's spanning more time.
But with Eddie, this is the interesting thing about him having already started some reconciliation with his father in Season 5. We saw the result of that with Ramón being more compassionate than Helena when they came for Christopher. I don't think we're circling back on villainizing him. Even with Helena, Eddie is in a constant push-pull of loving her and resenting her while still only historically seeing his dad as the problem, which is similar to how they've played Athena and her mom. I don't see a "fix" there narratively. That's just how it is. I relate to their experiences as much as I understand Maddie's desire to be close to her parents while Buck finds peace away from them. We weren't directed to see them as excited about their son potentially having a boyfriend either, but that doesn't haunt Buck.
When it comes to the story they're telling now, the villain can be Eddie's internalized homophobia and there's value in naming it without hiding it behind anything else, even if his parents helped nurture it. The big question to me reads as what Eddie does with it now.
On Helena, Ramón, Eddie, and Christopher
After last night’s episode, I believe far too much emphasis has been placed on Helena and Ramón in Eddie’s storyline. That is, I think fans in a rush to set the discussion tone shifted which core relationship dynamic is the fulcrum. I have read some very interesting posts that I can’t comment on directly because they’re not wrong — I fully appreciate the angle they’re exploring but they set up this falsehood that Eddie’s parents should be treated as his season’s big bad, when they’ve never fully treated with that much scorn and villainy. Eddie at his core is a family oriented man who does very much loves his parents. Whether they deserve this love is a question we often ask, but strangely enough, things immediately cross over into exceptionalism. Eddie’s relationship with his parents is extraordinarily common, and that makes me sad because as much as I dislike admitting it, I do wish I had a stronger relationship with my parents. We witness him doing what he can to preserve but improve their relationship. For every one step forward, there has been a couple steps back.
However, that is neither Eddie’s nor the writers’ concern in my opinion. His story is about looking forward, how to prevent these same cracks from forming within foundation of Christopher's and his relationship, where Helena and Ramón may serve as complications. I had a lovely conversation with a friend this morning, and she brought up a great point that 9-1-1’s primary concern has rarely been our heroes’ parents. Often they exist as an explanation for their neuroses and struggles, but they serve to strengthen the bonds between those who exist in the main cast. Like yes, for example, there was certain catharsis achieve when we witnessed Buck put Maddie’s and his parents into their place. Nevertheless, “Buck Beings” centers Buck’s dynamic with Maddie and solidifies his placement with the 118. Again, the Buckleys are complication, and this ties into “In Another Life.” For the first time in his life, he saw him them not as monsters but humans who amid their own grieve failed him, and that humanization finally allowed him to let them go in exchange for that true family love he’s built with the 118.
All this to say, there will always be fluncations within Eddie’s relationship with his parents, at least as of this moment, because that tension serves a narrative purpose for his relationship with Christopher, his own son. Any hopes for a resolution or closed book on Eddie and his parents should be a secondary or even tertiary concern, because if I want to be honest, even this arc with Christopher functions as a conduit for Eddie’s sexuality arc. I talked about this off and on throughout season seven and the hiatus in bits and pieces. I won’t get into today since this post was longer than expected. And now I don’t know how it should end.
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#if y'all are actually that upset with the show just stop watching?#maybe they're highlighting buck and eddie's relationships with other people because they want to show how different their relationship is?#maybe they just want to fully explore the lesser explored dynamics?#which that's genuinely one of my favorite aspects of any ensemble show!#give me all the different dynamics and combinations please!#the only one they haven't ever explored is eddie and maddie#which is so interesting because they're so similar and they both love buck so much (just in different ways obviously)#i never expected buddie to go canon in 6a#i'm not even getting my hopes up for anything beyond maybe a third party confession in 6b#the 100th episode is 7x04 and honestly i could see them waiting until then if they're making buddie canon#that being said i personally don't mind not seeing a ton of buddie on screen#everyone is allowed to feel differently about that!#i personally love the buck/hen and the eddie/chimney content we've been getting#anyway that's it for now#911 spoilers
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I just realized that the mirrored scenes of the camp talk and content ultra dad mode vs the distracted Chris secret conversation both happen with someone from Bucks past coming back. The first being Abby the ladder Connor with a weird request.
It's probably nothing and not meant to mean anything but I find it comical that even when unintended Buddie has a pattern
Also sort of wild that when a perceived love came back, Buck was at peak happiness if you will. That time frame was my favorite for Buddie. He just addressed her with hurt and confused regard IMHO. Even if he was unaware of it at the time he was happy to walk back to his new family.
This time years later, therapy under his belt, and having successfully left a relationship. He is more unhappy then ever and it's because also just IMHO the Buddie relationship never fully righted to their pre Anna model but also didn't continue to the natural dating it would have had Anna not come along. Although without Anna we may never had got an Eddie gay panic attack storyline.
Hi Nonnie! Thank you for this lovely ask! ^u^
I think the interesting thing about unintentional parallels in writing is that they arise from something in the subconscious mind of writers being at work. Meaning that if you have a certain notion about a character/relationship, even if you don't think up a specific parallel intentionally, in order to express the notion, you'll find yourself revisiting similar themes, even similar words and phrases. And that's gonna give rise to parallels that might not be intended, but are still meaningful, precisely because they reveal something about the character/relationship. That's why we all go so mad over parallels, don't we? 'Coz we intuitively feel the repetition points to significance.
Which is to say, yes! There is meaning here as well. Both characters from Buck's past come back to shake him up and make him question where he is in life, what he has and what he wants. In one case, the conversation about Christopher's camp in 318 plays out to demonstrate what Buck has in his life even before he gets to the point of questioning it, but we as viewers can correctly read it 'coz we've seen Abby on the train and we know she's about to run into him. In contrast, in 604 he runs into Connor before Eddie notices his silence in regards to Chris, so Buck being uncharacteristically absent as Christopher's co-parent points to him already questioning some major things about his life.
I personally think that Buddie did go back to how things were before Ana, maybe even closer (see my 601 meta on why I think the kitchen scene there shows that), but I do think the closer they get, the harder it is not to be together. It's like I said in this ask reply, an 'almost' can ache so much more than 'nothing'. The closer they get without acknowledging that their feelings aren't strictly platonic, the harder it's going to get for them. Which I think is a very similar notion to what you were saying? They're caught in the "in between" and there's no harder place to be in, you become more aware of what you miss the closer you are to your destination, being able to sense its proximity, but not being close enough yet to see or touch it. Which is exactly what makes Buck aware enough that he said in 403 already that he's fine, he just wants to be finer. He was on his way, both our boys are on their way, they just took a small detour in the shape of Ana and Taylor (*insert infamous reference to Buddie's talk about construction on Sunset in 408 here*), and sometimes detours are needed when the journey is a complex, challenging one...
I hope you have a great day, lovely! And here is my ask tag! xoxox
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For your "Buck being automatically parental post", I raise you the 6x14 speculation of that being when the Diaz parents come to visit next season, something happens with Eddie, and Buck goes to step up, per usual. Only for Helena and Ramon to flip, completely confused, and try to take over. Because so far canon presents Buck being as involved as he is as natural, normal, why wouldn't Buck be the first to make decisions. Someone needs to point out that no, most pals are not that involved in the life and raising of their friend's kid.
They've shown Buck stepping up twice without being questioned. I think the third time would be when they're ready to show some push back.
I see what you are raising and I like it, because I have had similar thoughts!! there were so many loaded moments in 5b which all point to this being a likely thing to happen. We have the domesticity of Buck being at Eddies - having stepped in and all that jazz, then the loaded line of 'Planes go both ways' and the whole framing of the conversation between Eddie and Ramon - that conversation, while left in a 'good place' is not over by a long shot because that was Eddie at the very beginning of his trauma - the beginning of his repression, we've yet to encounter the Helena of it all, because she has always been the more combative of Eddies parents - she has been the one leading the charge against Eddie in the scenes we've actually seen and those pointed digs etc are going to be leading somewhere.
So domestic Buck, and the Buckley-Diaz trio is coming into play somehow in S6. I can totally see Buck being at the Diaz house while Eddie is in a therapy session and H&R arriving and being super confused by Bucks presence, especially if he then doesn't leave when Eddie gets home, and or keeps being brought up in conversations by both Eddie and Chris etc.
I would love so much to see someone (cough Helena cough) push back against it, not only to see how Eddie reacts to it, but also Buck, because I think his reaction could be more interesting and telling than Eddies in all honesty!! There are so many possible ways this can be played as well and its such a great vehicle to drive Buddie forward and I am here for it! (especially if we have a very fragile Buck at the moment it happens - the potential for it to be a the final catalyst for a Buck breakdown of some sort is super interesting!!)
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