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In which Persephone is told she can't game the system- (TEXT EDIT)
no art was edited here, just text to make this more realistic to how this scene WOULD have gone if it was an actual courtroom with real rules LOL I find it a little weird that Rachel wrote a courtroom drama arc like this and then twisted it this much to benefit Persephone because like... clearly she was inspired by courtroom drama shows, and I can't help but wonder if she got all of her basic courtroom knowledge from like, Spongebob or some shit LOL
#it literally could have been a forum or something a little more#idk#GREEK ???#get tf outta here persephone#choosing your own boyfriend as your attorney#he shouldn't even be a judge on this case let alone an attorney#wtf was zeus thinking#where the FUCK is athena#athena would never let this happen#this edit means a lot to me because the trial arc was basically my canon event where I started to doubt LO and Rachel#like i had had so much suspension of disbelief up until persephone chose hades to be her attorney LOL#and then the eris twist was the last straw#lo critical#anti lore olympus#lore olympus critical#antiloreolympus
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Penelope owns a golden chain.
It is a thick, large piece with two cuffs connected to one end of it, made of robust metal that still shines beautifully years later. It stretches perhaps some four metres, at most, and the clasp in the middle allows her to twist it tighter if she wants it to. The blacksmith she had commissioned it from had given her two copies of the key- one of which she'd tossed off of a high cliff, and the other that she keeps safe in a locked box in her room.
It can clasp to her bed, to the throne and to the bath flooring. She had it enchanted by a witch on the run from a neighbouring kingdom in exchange for security, to never cross the limits of the shoreline- so she never loses it, she'd said. She had won a favour off an alchemist in a bet and gotten it spelled to never break. She polishes it every day carefully to look it's best before she leaves the room.
It has only one use.
"I will hobble you like a horse," She hisses to her husband when he returns to her after twenty years. Adjusts herself and leans down to whisper in his ear, "I will chain you down like a common beast, cut out that silver tongue of yours so you can no longer get into trouble, break your fucking legs."
The chain clinks as Odysseus gasps for air. Penelope smiles and traces the edge of his adoring, breathless grin. "You are not allowed to leave me ever again."
Penelope owns a golden chain.
It looks wonderful around her husband's feet.
#odypen#dark penelope truthers where you at#odysseus#penelope#my fic#epic the musical#odyssey#tw dark#ig??#greek mythology#penelope placidly smiling on her throne as the chain tinkles around odys ankles as he sorts out some person's problems#anyone who comes to talk to them is always intimidated as hell. glad odysseus is ruling but also hey king of ithaka blink 2 if u need help#he does not need help he is also crazy and very melty about his wifes love for him#it shuffles when he walks so she can always hear him#telemachus has grown up w his mom's crazy he never understands the concerns people come to him with and athena has no morals#so theres no help for menelaus helen and clymenestra when they walk in#“hey- what in fucks name.”
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Hera and Athena when Ares left them for Aphrodite and the Trojans
#watch The Penguin it’s so fucking good#I’m so mad Homer never gave us a scene where Hera yells at Ares for what he did#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#greek pantheon#greek goddess#hera#hera goddess#hera greek mythology#zeus#ares#ares deity#ares god of war#ares greek god#goddess athena#Athena#athena goddess of wisdom#athena greek mythology#the penguin#the penguin spoilers#the penguin series#the penguin hbo#Iliad#homer's iliad#Trojan war
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guys I may have overestimated by ability to go without the weewoos for 4 months 🧍🏽♀️
#what the fuck do I do know#I mean I gotta study but like#what do I focus on#where are my wee woos#911#911 fox#911 abc#911 tv show#evan buckley#evan buck buckley#eddie diaz#tommy kinard#athena grant#chimney han#henrietta wilson#bobby nash#ravi panikkar#911 show#911 on abc#911 season seven#911 season 7#911 s7
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Watching Eddie Begins with Buddie-colored glasses on is already crazy enough, but I just caught something that I never really thought about before. Athena tells Bobby that the news crews showing up before she leaves for another call might turn the call into a nationwide story. And then Buck absolutely LOSES it when 30 feet of wet earth falls on top of Eddie. So yeah, maybe Bobby pulls Buck away to stop him from futilely digging for Eddie with his hands, but maybe he also does it because he doesn’t want his kid’s grief and fear and love for Eddie being broadcast across the country. Especially not when Bobby thinks that Eddie’s probably already dead. And not only does Bobby pull Buck away from the well, he pulls back right into his lap. This is the closest we get to Bobby cradling Buck in his arms until the lightning strike, and it’s because he doesn’t want Buck to be in pain, and he most certainly does NOT want the tragedy of Eddie’s death to be made even worse by Buck’s pain over it being broadcast to the entire country.
#bobby is buck's dad#911#9-1-1#911 abc#9-1-1 abc#buddie#bobby nash#eddie diaz#evan buckley#athena grant#also#just because I’ve never really posted meta about Eddie begins before#we REALLY need to talk about the fact that Buck’s reaction to Eddie’s potential demise is the ONLY reaction show live and in color#season 3 buddie was NOT subtle in the slightest y’all#I know there’s so many fics out there about Eddie finding a video of Buck’s reaction to him being trapped but I want one where he watches#and is ALSO so fucking grateful for Bobby pulling Buck away from where he was buried#for taking care of his partner when he wasn’t topside to do it himself#that still of Bobby and eddie talking for s7 reallyyyy has me in my feels about these three men and their incredible dynamic#well scene#you will always be famous#fuck the writers for this actually#(affectionate)
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Listen I have a lot of issues with 600 strikes but odysseus should have kept posideon's trident
#epic the musical#Odysseus#posideon#Ignoring the fact that no mortal man would be able to beat up posiden like that#(I've started to take a more percy jackson mindset than the odyssey mindset which has helped a lot)#The second half of 600 strikes slaps#I love the fact that odysseus is clearly working out his issues on posideon#“You didn't stop when I begged you” to CALYPSO'S theme?!!! Absolutely insane going feral over that#But like he'd need proof that he beat posideons ass and having his trident is PERFECT for that#And like he's already going to be cursed forever because of the (checks notes) torture humiliation blinding his son ect.#Might as well full send it and take the trident as a trophy too#Also!!! Imagine how kickass it would be if odysseus rocked up to his home after 20 years covered in ichor and the trident#(Imagine the suitors reactions. They'd be so so scared)#(Imagine how hot penelope would find it)#And much later odysseus rocking up to athenas temple : heyyy sis you want this? *slams trident onto alter*#Athena: .....where and how the fuck do you have that ?!#Odysseus: do you want it or not I know you and posiden have been beafing since the dawn of time#Odysseus: imagine how funny his face would be if you showed up at the next Olympian gods meeting with this over your shoulders#Athena:....fuck you're right it WOULD be funny
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You know what would be really funny? If we never hear from Athena again
Is she dead?
Probably not but we’re never gonna know it’s gonna be a big mystery in 20 years when Epic goes onstage. There will be video essays about it
#epic the muscial#epic the vengeance saga spoilers#epic the musical livestream#epic the musical spoilers#epic the vengeance saga#athena#she’s not seen she’s not there#god it would be so fucking funny#she just doesn’t show up again#she probs will#but can you imagine#telemachus#is just like where’s Athena#and Odysseus is like#Oh Shit Athena#end musical
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At this rate I think anytime Athena travels anywhere they should just have emergency services on standby. Like forget worrying about storm clouds on the horizon. The moment you spot Athena in your general vicinity it’s time to high tail it out of there.
#to be fair she’s also pretty good at saving those in danger with her#but if my choices are an average day or a day where I’m horribly traumatized and survive I’m going to go with a normal day#although I do also love Athena so maybe it’s worth the risk????#Athena grant#not an incorrect quote#911 abc#911 spoilers#next season we stick her on a high speed train#although 911 lonestars opening incident was a train crash so that’s unlikely#maybe she’s on a subway and an earthquake hits????#NO WAIT WE PUT HER ON THE FUCKING SPACE STATION#ASTRONAUT ATHENA TO THE RESCUE
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I'm wondering what the crew members who opened the bag felt like when poseidon drowned all those ships
Because they were on the same ship as odysseus and will likely join the mutiny
So I imagine that when they get away from poseidon they were just like "hahahaha wtf"
"Sorry captain we opened the bag that you clearly said held the storm inside and was dangerous"
#the gall to mutiny against odysseus honestly#like it was his fault technically#but YOU OPENED THE BAG WHEN YOU WERE LIKE A DAYS WORTH OF SAILING AWAY FROM ITHICA#AND FOR WHAT#“Never really know who you can trust” FR FUCK YOU#wanna write an au where odysseus gets so fucking mad at them that he sacrifices them to poseidon to appease him#and poseidons like “wow i dont even have to teach him ruthlessness”#athenas somewhere in the distance like “so NOW you wanna kill.”#“what was our dramatic divorce song for then”#ruthlessness#epic the musical#epic the ocean saga
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i must be a sick fuck if im looking for a specific ship for a three thousand year old story and there are like. 6 fics and some of them aren’t english
#look#look Athena/odysseus is fucked up#it is a fucked and cursed ship#however#i love mess#and I can’t be the only one#so WHERE ARE THE FICS#I’ve searched the general Greek tag I’ve searched both Homer tags I searched the epic tag#there is NOTHING.#what do i do in this situation
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OK BACK uP cause wt- you mean to tell me Hermes is literally the god of thieves and these idiots think a child of Ares stole the masterbolt???
#child of Athena where#like Percy and Grover get a pass but come tf on bffr isn't Athena supposed to be the smart goddess and they really got her golden child out#out here looking like a aboslute clown like shit is embarrassing#like if she wants to disown her for something then it should be for that#like Luke tell me you did it without telling me you did even though you just played yourself by sounding sus as fuck#like lmao are they serious here#like I don't know Greek mythology so l just assumed Ares did it because he's an instigator and would do anything to start a fight/war#which technically is still true because he literally let this boy get away with thief to just get another fight going like yes Ares it's#it's true you’re a simple minded meat head and your sister is definitely smarter than you so suck it up buttercup#percy jackson and the olympians#pjo#pjo tv show#grover underwood#annabeth chase#percy jackson#clarisse la rue#luke castellan#ares#ares pjo#hermes#hermes pjo#athena#athena pjo
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i actually kinda love the 6x18 highway collapse disaster bc it was soooo good but disappointing in the whump of it all ... like bobby get basically buried and coming out with just a hurt shoulder or something... no i wanted to see him almost die ... like we could've gotten such good angst of him stuck there no way out and no way to get help... and i always think of when athena calls out on the radio she found him she sounds so scared and sad when I first heard it I thought something really really bad happened to bobby but ... i wanted more angst and whump... the potential... and then only to make it worse they time skipped so much like no end with them all gathered in the hospital in recovery...
#WHERE IS WHUMP AND ANGST#ITS SUCH A GOOD SITUATION FOR IT AND U BARELY GAVE ME ANY#constantly think about the fic where bobby is in a similar situation or it is based on the collapse and he's dying and calls athena....#technically in that fic he does die but#what if its similar and just a close call#he thinks hes dying#bc he fucking buried under tons of rubble and whatnot#mans should have been more injured#911#bobby nash
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i am an athena cykes defender forever and ever until the day i die but god. somewhere out there there is a universe where apollo justice got actual follow through and it kills me that i am not living in it
#sorry. i am replaying apollo justice. and it has SO MUCH POTENTIAL.#kills me that we never get any real answers about kristoph obv but its not even just that#klavier as a rival was so interesting. because hes basically already at the state that you're trying to get all the other prosecutors in th#series to in terms of winning vs truth. hes really well rounded as a prosecutor in a way that you as the player arent used to#and that was an interesting departure from the formula for aa in general but then they slapped him with a whole DIFFERENT problem#with kristoph and phoenix. and then they just. do not resolve it whatsoever.#even though apollo is literally right there as a perfect little avenue for resolution. and i KNOW that they WOULD HAVE resolved it#if only they would have MADE THE SECOND GODDAMN GAME#PLUS the secondary conflict of systemic injustice within the system and phoenix's role in that. TRUCY.#god fuck ace attorney why are you so good and so bad at the same time#what we really should have gotten is an apollo justice duology and THEN an athena cykes solo game#where apollo shows up exclusively as a background character and athena actually gets to be the playable attorney in more than 2 cases.#ugh. whatever#personal
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allow yourself to be a little arrogant! if you were to claim that you know more than most people about a specific character from greek mythology, which character would it be?
*puts on the hat of arrogance so I can take it off right afterward*
Penelope 😅 😂
Like most of what we find of her is in the Odyssey, and even then, in my opinion, Homer I almost feel purposefully makes her a bit of an enigma. As we're in Odysseus' "POV" most of the time, and it's kind of a "She tricks the trickster, she tricks the narrator, she tricks the suitors, she tricks the reader, etc."
But even with this lil bit of "sneakiness" with her, we still get so many hints of her character and who she is and I adore it 🥹
Even then she has a lot of background lore that is just SOOOO much fun to play with. Her being of Naiad descent (whether 50-75% depending on what myths you go with), her many brothers and one sister, Her dad being a racer, her being cousins with Helen, Castor, Pollux, Clytemnestra Sparta itself, And that's just background lore!!!! There's so much to play with and that makes it so fun!
And well, like, I KNOW I'm the reason for a big boom of "Water Wife" lol 😅 Were there "Naiad Penelopes" before I came back on Tumblr? YES! :D Absolutely! I'm definitely NOT the first "Naiad Penelope" person!
But I DID create "Water Wife" AND I know I help cause more Water Pennys to be in the world >:3 Even if folks weren't directly inspired by me, they probably got it from someone else who was! :3 and I know my headcanons are often being used by others.
*The hat of arrogance droops a lil on my head so it becomes a lil bit of the sad arrogance hat*
I sometimes don't really like that I'm like, "the biggest, loudest Penelope fan", you know? ;~;
I know I'm not the only Penelope fan <3 I know there are others. Many lovely fans and creators :3 This isn't to negate them and the love and works. <3
But in fandom in general, In some ways, I...I'm a lil sad that like, a lot of the info that some people have on her in the fandom I know is because of me 😓 Like...Why did it take someone else to be a nerd about her for others to be a nerd about her, you know?
Like, it makes me happy that people are finally giving her love and seeing a lot more fics and headcanons with her as a focal point but like, I'm sad feeling like I started it in fandom (again, Penelope HAS been praised throughout the ages after all) recently. Why did it take ME to get others so nuts about her? Why do I see most folks caring about her simply because Odysseus and Telemachus do?
It's like, there are many Odysseus bloggers, there are a few Telemachus bloggers (Hi! :D ), but there are few, (if really many others) blogs that are like "most stuff I do is Penelope, Odysseus and others are there sometimes but It's mostly Penelope in here".
(granted I have not really...looked too much recently as it started making me sad to think about her not getting a lot of love) I am also very picky. I won't stand for cardboard Penelope who is only there to prop up her husband and/or thinks he "cheated" or have Odysseus cheat. Penelope, and women in general, are not props for their husbands/sons.)
As like, I got most of my info FROM the Odyssey AND just simply looking stuff up about her and Sparta and her family. And so I get this lil feeling of "...We both read the same book, why did it take me pointing out that Penelope is constantly wishing violence on the suitors for people to know that she does that? Why did you think that Penelope didn't come up with the archery contest when it explicitly says she did?"
And it's not like, even a feeling of "gatekeeping" or wanting to be like "You're a Penelope fan, huh? Well then tell me the names of all her possible brothers? >:(" It's more like a
Me: "I love Penelope!" Person:"YEs! I love Penelope too!" Me: "Yippee! Can you tell me about your Penelope? :D I love all Penelopes! I wanna talk about her!" Person: "Well, she's more quiet and reserved but that's her secret >:3 she strikes when you least expect it!" Me: "YES!!! That's so fun! I have her 'Likeminded' with Odysseus and she's silly, reckless, hotheaded just like he is :D Can you tell me some headcanons about her? What do you have for her childhood? I'm really excited!" Person: "Oh I don't have much for her childhood actually." Me: "That's okay! Do you wanna brainstorm together? Maybe bounce some ideas so you can get some down?" Person: "Oh no, that's okay. I've got all I need,as I really only have her when she meets Odysseus." Me: "o-oh okay.:'D "
As like...I dunno. When you love a character, you wanna meet others who also will ramble nonstop about them too, you know?
I sometimes feel like, idk, some folks are like "Think up Penelope headcanons for us! :D " especially as like... I've had that whole "Oh no, I've got all I need!" experience more than once :')
Ngl, like, part of the reason I go so "apeshit" about her is yeah, because I am, but also like, in hope more people will join me? Which yeah! People have! And that makes me happy!
But even then, I just... I DO like this joke, don't get me wrong, but with how whenever I fangirl about her, people are like, "Found Odysseus" and yippee! :D I think it's fun to be called Odysseus!
But also like...Why does it still tie back to him? Why is it still about Odysseus? (even my own tag of "Shot by Odysseus" is still technically about him! (I'm keeping it because I'm stupid but still)) Why aren't Odysseus fans called "Penelope" then? She loves him just as much, right?
I think there's more "OdyPen fans" than there are Penelope fans. Because most Penelope stuff HAS to do with Odysseus, and it's usually like, STILL centered around him. Which is really weird to me, as I don't know how you can be a big Odysseus fan without being an equally big Penelope fan. They are way way too intertwined to not be equally talked/headcanoned/etc. about in my opinion. They're like the same person imo in a way lol.
In my opinion, you cannot bring up Odysseus without mentioning Penelope, you cannot bring up Penelope without mentioning Odysseus.
It's literally like that in the Odyssey. (Explain that part of Homer's passage here.)
...So why are there so many fics with Odysseus doing so much without Penelope, and yet, very few Penelope fics that don't have much of anything to do with Odysseus?
*takes off hat of arrogance*
And like...I'm a goober just like every other fan, you know? I'm not some "mastermind". All my "good" headcanons are simply loving her and thinking about her often. It's...not hard to love a character. I just rotate her around a lot. :3
#sighs#aaaaaaaaaa#this is another dumb ramble by Mad but you know#Sorry this became...THIS. Anon! :'D This was a really sweet and fun ask. I'm just a lil weirdo.#I go on this rant often. and I hate that but aaaaaaaaaaaaaa. it's like...almost made me annoyed about Odysseus. sadly.#like I'm kind of at a point of “...I love him too. but can we shut up about him for a bit?”#I mean. like. I've seen shit that basically erases Penelope and has it where it's “Athena who is Telemachus' mom” like what the actual fuck#honestly like. while I get sad that like. people weirdly making Telemachus only raised by Athena. I have no beef with his fans.#as like. from what I've noticed. in Telemachus centered fics and shit. BOTH Penelope AND Odysseus are in the “background”#AND THAT MAKES SENSE! :D#but like. other Odysseus fans. who put Penelope in the “background” when that's the love of his life. who he shares a mind with.#like...that's out of character for both Penelope AND Odysseus.#...Also you notice how Odysseus is basically shipped with everyone but Penelope is never shipped with anyone other than Odysseus?👀#Despite both being equally obsessed with each other?#Why is that?#Is it because she's just Odysseus' wife?🙃#penelope#penelope of ithaca#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#my headcanons#ask#anon#essay#Mad rants#kind of#Water Wife#odyssey
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God(s)damn why was I stupid enough to think I didnt need to catch the epic musical streams? I watched the playback and damn it was so cool! There are so many people contributing to it?! I didnt know that! The whole wisdom saga was lovingy made by everyone, the voices, the illustrations, animatics, straight up animations like wow I wasnt aware this was as big as it is. I would feel like a fool if I miss another one of these now. Gotta make sure that doesnt happen
#epic the wisdom saga#epic the musical#so many highlights... where to even begin. I am just gushing at this point#the dude making the musical is such a joy! you can tell he is more excited and passionate about this than anyone#TELEMACHUS'S WHOLE FIGHT WAS ANIMATED BY SOMEONE LIKE AN OLD ARCADE FIGHTING GAME!?!?! IT WAS SO CHARMING HOLY SHIT#IT HAD ATTACK ANIMATIONS AND EVERYTHING#Calypso was so cute and funny. “She's my wife.” “T_T”#the whole god games song was just 👌#holy hell dude#each god and goddess#the animatics add so much for sure. I wouldntve known athena and hera were having a disco dance battle if I was listening blind#fucking hell#if anyone is reading this have I convinced you to check this out yet?
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why does Rick Riordan hate the original myths so bad 💀
the Asphodel stuff?? regret? where is that coming from? you fully just made that shit up? out of his ass fr. the fields of Asphodel are specifically an area of neutrality, where the pretty much all mortals go when they die. it's for anyone who lived a normal life, who isn't a hero or a literal monster. it's specifically a neutral zone for people to exist once they die, it has nothing to do with ~your regrets in life~. it's like, a peaceful field of flowers where all your life's troubles are left behind on the surface.
the closest things to that is the fields of mourning/sorrow, but that's specifically for unrequited romantic love and also not called the fields of Asphodel (and also I'd bet money that rr doesn't know what that is) (and also only in Virgil's The Aeneid and not the Odyssey with the rest of what we know of the underworld)
#the fields of Asphodel are so so personal to me as someone who practices helpol too#like thats such a stupid and nonsensical change#just straight up fibbing for fun#and for what? a half baked poorly writted one off scene??#like he really just hates the myths huh#this and how he depicts a lot of the gods (namely ares Aphrodite and athena)#snd HERA#GODS#i forgot about that originally he fucking SLANDERS hera#for no reason#hes is such a MAN he cannot write a well wrotted female character for the life of him goodness gracious#and Persephone too!! with how she treats nico#“he would not fucking say that” but its me to about how rr depicits the gods#and mostly the female ones too#he writes all of them terribly but its noticable how he is nice to the “misunderstood men” like Hephaestus and Hades#but then slanders the women#and what he said about Aphrodite when asked where she was in tlo!! “oh she was probably busy doing her makeup hahaha”#ill kill you. like what the fuck??#this got horribly off topic oops oops#percy jackson#percy jackon and the olympians#pjo tv show
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