Hey so I’m not a “read comics to know cannon cause fannon fucking sucks!!” Girlie okay, I started as fannon and it is genuinely so fun and I love it.
(Edited to be nicer): Reading through comics though I find it fascinating to find what the fandom has shifted for better or worse. Recently I found the real story of peoples main defense of Robin existing:
“Bruce only brought on Dick as a sidekick cause he snuck out to go kill Zucco and he wanted him trained and taught” or any other version, is simply wrong. I’ve now read two versions and both of them he only started cause Batman told him to.
In Robin Annual #4 (1993), a little before Tims solo started, we get a flashback to when Dick was brought on as Robin.
In this version- he literally never mentions killing Zucco. And wasn’t even convinced they were murdered until Batman told him, then said it didn’t matter cause they’re still dead, and he just wants to leave:
When he later does sneak out of Wayne Manor to find out more about his parents killer- he says its cause Batman asked for his help:
And then after Bruce finds him, Batman says he still needs Dicks help, and only then (in this version) does Dick suggest becoming his sidekick)
Now you may be thinking- “that ones from later, an earlier version must be less damning” not quite.
Right before Tim comes onto the scene in general we get another version of the tale in Batman #437 in 1989
Dick does originally say in this version that he wants Zucco dead- and if Batman won’t he’ll do it himself. But then by the time Bruce actually talks to him about, he’s changed his mind and simply wants to do something to stop people like this. Then Bruce IMMEADIATLY OFFERS BECOMING HIS SIDEKICK
All in all, this is two different versions in which Dick does not immeadiatly sneak out on his own- and only thinks of becoming a vigilante after B asks him to help.
Anyway, can you tell I hate Bruce?
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oK so after like?? 3+ years of trying to treat my IBS i just found out i almost DEFINITELY actually have RCPD??? no wonder nothing was working it's not the food it's my FUCKING BODY that's the problem!!!
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very interested in how the storyline of ronan's sexuality is developed in the dream thieves as a battle between kavinsky and gansey while adam is almost never present in these scenes, which makes it even more interesting that we found out in CDTH that ronan was set on adam the moment he saw him. i think that ronan is attracted on some level to both gansey and kavinsky (you can draw the lines of how much romantic intention you think he hold towards either of the yourself, that's a rabbit hole I would need a whole other post to go down) but more so I think he was attracted to the IDEA of both of them and certain qualities that each possessed, and that the real question wasn't does ronan want gansey or kavinsky because we know he wants adam but rather who's qualities resonate more with who ronan is, or who he is choosing to be at this critical moment in his character development. kavinsky is a dangerous thrill and often comes wrapped in ronan's other favorite self destructive attempts to outrun himself, while gansey is ronan's history and proof of his deep capacities for loyalty and love. he tells kavinsky it was never going to be me and you and that it's not going to be ronan and gansey because that was never the question- maggie was obviously always planning on bluesy and pynch. the answer to who ronan WANTS in adam. the question of who ronan IS- that's what he's trying to decide here. his self hatred is such a heavy weight on him and theme in tdt, and the kavinsky/gansey dichotomy represents the the path he will choose to take to deal with it- keep try to drive faster than his demons or accept that he can still be loved even if he isn't the person he once was. the dream thieves my beloved ronan lynch my beloved
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Alright. Okay.
So the entire time I've been reading VnC, I've been assuming that Noé is the sole known survivor of the Archivistes in a relatively normal way. I've been assuming that something happened to the Archiviste clan within Noé's lifetime, just before his human "grandparents" found him in the snow. Obviously I wondered about what happened—who slaughtered them if they were killed and what else might have happened if they aren't all dead as we've been told, but I never questioned the timeline. I assumed that the Archivistes must have been alive and kicking until recently, even if Noé's last remaining family was living in hiding from the rest of vampire society or something like that.
But. We don't actually know that that's true. We don't know a single thing about the timeline of the Archivistes' extermination other than what Nox says about them having all died "long ago." Noé is nineteen years old, and we have no idea how old Nox is. Could the fifteen to seventeen years between Noé's first adoption and the present day be enough to count as long ago?
This is Jun Mochizuki we're talking about. There is extensive precedent in her work (by way of Pandora Hearts) for characters turning up seemingly out of nowhere, often with no memory, and in Pandora Hearts, these cases never had a simple answer. It was always caused by the time-bending properties of the Abyss.
It is entirely within the realm of possibility for the rest of the Archiviste clan to have died years, decades, or even a century or more before Noé was found by his human grandparents. We don't have precedent yet for anything that messes with time in VnC like PH's Abyss, so I don't know how this could have happened, but I don't think we can fully discount the possibility. The outer bounds of world formula rewriting as a power are yet to be fully explored, so it's hard to say firmly that anything's impossible. There might be a way for Noé to exist in the present even if the rest of his clan was killed well over nineteen years ago (be it by PH style time-bending or by some entirely different mechanism).
It's still possible (and even likely) that the Archivistes died or disappeared less than twenty years ago, but it's not quite the concrete fact that I've been thinking of it as this entire time. It's entirely possible that Noé's backstory contains Mochizuki Timeline Fuckery, and now that I've had that thought, I can't unsee it. The author of Pandora Hearts going out of her way to say that her protagonist was found mysteriously alone and crying with no memory of how he got that way is. conspicuous as hell.
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