#variety article

[kickdrumheart68]

RIP Sannen Doherty..... fuck cancer!

[these-are-the-first-steps]

Also, like, ON THE UPSIDE, dark reylo wins at the end of the day?? 🥴🥴🥴🤣🤣🤣

Got that going for us lmfaooo

[juliansdiary2]

The Flash Director says Ezra Miller will stay The Flash

[rennerator]

OH WOW!!!!! THAT IS HUUUUUUUGE!!!!!!!! SO HAPPY FOR THEM!!!!!!!!! S2 LOVE LOVE LOVE Does that mean we will have TW season 2 then? I HOPE SOOOO!!!! \o/ And MANY MORE PROJECTS TOO!!!! Thank YOU SO SO SOOOO MUCH for this!!!! You are AWESOME!!!!!! :D AWWWWWW, I AM SOOOO EXCITED!!!!!!! <3

Per Variety, Jensen and Danneel Ackles have moved their first look deal from WB to Amazon!

[ivyithink]

don’t worry, they make up by smoking danny’s book and bitching about armand together

[pochiperpe90]

Charlize Theron about The Old Guard 2

[lorephobic]

can't stop thinking about how sweetly barry actually talks about oliver. i think theres such a tendency in modern discourse to label (& unintentionally dismiss) characters like oliver as fucked up and feral and i get it because it's the funny way that we talk about weird little guys right now, but there is something so quietly devastating about barry always describing oliver like he's a scared little kid. confused by his attraction and his power, just wanting to be a part of it. barry's oliver is still standing in the foyer begging felix to let them still be friends. barry's oliver is sobbing at felix's grave, kissing the grave dirt between them. barry's oliver never gets the fulfillment of what he's chasing.

[slothelephant]

Nothing is funnier than Lou Wilson describing Kingston as an old man who has lived a long life AT FIFTY!! He even faces death saying, “I’ve lived a long life. I’ve made my peace.” AT FIFTY. Alejandro must be sick of his shit.

[originalcrime]

Don’t let the mustache and the curls and the crop top distract you from the fact that they still haven’t announced Ravi main s8!!!

[inawickedlittletown]

Sooo I started to read other articles. I didn't after reading the ones that came out right after the episode that justifiably got everyone upset.

This one from tv insider had Tim saying this:

Moving on to Buck and Tommy’s breakup, talk about your approach to it. Why was Tommy sure that Buck would break his heart?

Tommy’s older and Buck is very new to this, and whether Tommy was correct or not, I think what he felt like was exactly what he said: I’m not your last, I’m your first, which is a special thing to be, but as Tommy says, it doesn’t usually end up being the same thing. And I think based on what we know of Buck, he’s maybe not wrong. Buck’s a little impulsive when he’s feeling a certain kind of way. He’s like, move on in, bring your couch. So I just think because Tommy’s a little older and wiser or maybe at some level he feels like he doesn’t deserve Buck, I don’t know. But I think he accurately diagnosed Buck. Buck’s still figuring himself out, and boy, that would be quite risky to move in with that guy as much as you would love to.

That does seem to be Buck’s go-to, which isn’t the best.

Exactly.

Are we going to see Buck single for a significant period of time now? Is he trying to figure out what he wants really out of a relationship?

Yeah, I think that’s right. As Tommy said, you’re still figuring yourself out, and his options have increased by 50 percent of the population. So knowing Buck, that’s going to be choice overload. He’s got to navigate that with a little self-awareness.

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So they definitely planned for this. That's what this reads like...they wanted to break them up so that they could send Buck through a period of exploration. Tim says everything Oliver said here in much nicer terms. His view of Buck is so...Idk, it's like he sees Buck as a kid that still doesn't know what he wants. And he decided to put that view right into Tommy's head too. It's a little jarring I guess but this show...has it ever been consistent?

What sucks is that 8x05 was written like they were doing so well. And then right off the back with 8x06 we have warning signs in the date scene with the girl that approaches Buck and how Tommy sort of shrugs off Buck checking her out. I really do wonder where hot waiter fit into this and I'm so glad we didn't see Tommy like checking hot waiter out or something. But I guess that scene was there to sow the seeds. We have Buck spiraling because of the Abby thing and we have Tommy maybe not realizing but reinforcing for himself that he's a stepping stone for Buck and being okay with it in the status quo.

The way that Tim speaks about Buck asking Tommy to move in, he makes it seem like Buck is just barreling in without thought...like if they went through with it Tommy might be proven right. But then what is the point of the scene with Josh where Buck is right on the cusp of an "I love you" just to then be like no actually Tommy knows how this ends and he can read Buck and knows they're not forever. But Tommy is not a mind reader.

Where there is hope is in that Tim doesn't outwardly say anything about Tommy being gone for good. As someone else pointed out the Lou interviews were done by buddie journalists with a bias so there is a question to how much that colored what we got and why they were so determined to close the door fully. Also...why did we get exit interviews in the first place for a character that only had three episodes...it's so odd.

The writers made a point of leaving this open. Do I think we'll get Tommy back any time soon. No. But after the doom and gloom and the time to mourn this a bit I want to be positive and there is really no knowing. Tim says he thinks Buck will be single for a while...okay fine...picture that being the rest of this season.

Buck won't just jump into another relationship...and Oliver gets his Buck slut era 2.0...what if S9 brings back Tommy? What if this is the long game...or at least the thing they can have in their back pocket if Lou is available later on to come back. But that's not something they can promise or that they can commit to and Lou isn't on contract clearly and Oliver wouldn't know if that's the plan...hell even Tim probably doesn't know if they'll do that. Or I'm giving him too much credit because as we've seen this season storylines have been rushed to close up at breakneck speeds so it would be an anomaly for him to prolong something like this.

All this to say, showing the network and Tim that bucktommy matters to a lot of people and that Tommy matters...it may just make a difference.

[mycherrycola]

to be honest I want to write Dante and Virgil fanfiction. Nothing good can come from this I fear

[b-skarsgard]

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How did you want to echo other “Nosferatu” looks while developing something new and fresh?

It was always going to be new and fresh because we had Bill Skarsgård to work with. Bill has a great bone structure and wonderful expressive eyes, and is such a great actor. There are echoes of the original Max Schreck version in the look, but only fleeting echoes. I feel our Orlok gives a much deeper, more visual interpretation, and is definitely standalone.

How long was Bill Skarsgård in the makeup chair each day to put on the look? To take it off?

Bill’s time in the chair varied, from four and a half hours with just the head and hands, to six hours if he was in full body prosthetics. Prosthetic removal was approximately 45 minutes.

What was the most challenging part to develop?

I would say the most challenging part to develop was the fact that his prosthetic makeup had to work on so many levels, and with only one sculptural look. I had to find interesting ways to meet all the criteria.

I was keen to keep his age ambiguous — ageless, so to speak. I did this by being very particular about the amount of wrinkles and obvious character lines, keeping the look more sparse with no hoods over his eyelids and no eye bags. He also has to be appealing and charismatic to Ellen and able to disguise his filthy rot and decay by keeping in the shadows as cover. His coloration was also challenging. I devised two very different looks: one when he is in his Sarcophagus — when his “trance State” coloration is puce with bruised red blemishes and dark tones — and the other being his “day look,” which was waxen and sallow.

What was the discussion about him having a mustache like?

Robert’s passion for the traditions of the time greatly influenced the final look. As Orlok was of noble stature, Robert really wanted him to have a mustache and forelock. I think this approach was totally correct and I never saw it any other way after that. When you remove these elements, he just doesn’t look like Orlok.

How many prosthetic pieces did you use and what were they?

Orlok has nine prosthetics for his head and face alone: a neck, back of head, chin, cheeks, bottom and top lip, ears, nose, forehead and nose bridge.

He also has top and bottom hand prosthetics, with eight finger extensions incorporating nails, and two thumbs, each with a blender prosthetic to disguise the edges.

For Orlok’s full-body prosthetic, there are a phenomenal 62 prosthetic pieces that take a team of six to apply.

How did you transform his eyes?

Bill uses his own eyes without lenses for the “day look,” which gives him great freedom of expression. For his “trance State,” he has full scleral contact lenses, which transform his eyes to a white milky dead stare.

How did you land on the look for his nails and hands?

Robert was keen to have Bill’s fingers elongated as much as possible before becoming unusable from a practical standpoint. Bill had to be able to write, open boxes and manipulate objects, so I extended his fingers as far as possible, taking into account that beyond the finger was an equally long gnarly, broken nail. Robert was keen they should be slightly arthritic also. This all took a lot of testing, as the material the finger extensions are made from had to be firm enough for Bill to feel the vibrations through, giving him more sensitivity.

Could you break down the final shot, when Orlok is dead on top of Ellen (Lily-Rose Depp), and how you achieved that look? What conversations did you have with Robert about that?

The scene plays out as the sun breaks across the room and falls on Orlok. Robert wanted to be able to cut from the painful screams of Orlok to the final shot of him lying dead on Ellen, when he’s nothing more than a husk.

I shared with Robert versions of bodies in varying states of decay and wither. He really wanted the feeling of Orlok having had all life sucked from him, every last drop of blood. We took our final inspiration from a reference photo of a rediscovered body of a 5,300-year-old iceman found in the Alps.

When I had completed this, it was shot within the scene and VFX, then scanned the corpse and also scanned Bill in this final look. VFX then enhanced the painful withering moment between the two looks to complete the scene. •

[jocia92]

"The Terror" Season 3 "Devil in Silver" Casts Dan Stevens in Lead Role - Variety

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Dan Stevens is set to star in “The Terror” Season 3 at AMC, which is based on the Victor LaValle novel “The Devil in Silver.”

“The Terror: Devil in Silver” was formally greenlit at the cabler back in February. Stevens will also executive produce the six-episode season in addition to starring. It is slated to debut on AMC and AMC+ in 2025.

Stevens will play Pepper, described as “a working-class moving man who, through a combination of bad luck and a bad temper, finds himself wrongfully committed to New Hyde Psychiatric Hospital – an institution filled with the people society would rather forget. There, he must contend with patients who work against him, doctors who harbor grim secrets, and perhaps even the very Devil himself. As Pepper navigates a hellscape where nothing is as it seems, he finds that the only path to freedom is to face down the entity which thrives on the suffering within New Hyde’s walls – but doing so may prove that the worst demons of all live inside him.”

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“I’m thrilled to be a part of ‘The Terror: Devil in Silver.’ This series is a dark symphony of psychological horror and gripping drama, set to rock the audience,” Stevens said. “Victor LaValle, Christopher Cantwell, and this incredible team have crafted a unique and twisted dance of devils and shadows. I look forward to delivering something epic that will echo through the halls like an iron bell.”

[confetticutey]

idk I just think it's a little weird to say to your fans that they misunderstood you when there's more evidence of the opposite

[hexedgelphie]

“We’re very different, but when we’re doing something like this together, her needs become my needs,” Grande says.  

Erivo, not breaking Grande’s gaze, replies, “And her needs become mine.” 

Cynthiana making me feel insane.

[morlock-holmes]

This video is not great, and kind of typifies what I think is an entirely backwards response to that Variety article.

The example used in the beginning is almost the exact opposite of what is implied by that Variety article.

Rodenberry began with an extremely specific sense of feeling about how Star Trek should work. He didn't ask the fans if Spock should die, he already knew that the answer was "no". No doubt he enlisted the fans in order to demonstrate to Paramount that his already existing judgment would make them more money than ignoring them. He was not following fan sentiment, he was directing it.

The hollow eyed Liches that run Paramount today don't have any strong opinions about whether or not Spock should die. If some poor writer goes, "Hey, I'm trying to break this script, and part of me thinks killing off Spock is a sort of culmination of the character, but is it possible that it's just cheap shock value?"

They will stare in confusion and then say, "Were you speaking martian just now, because I didn't understand a word of that. Go poll the fans and then do whichever one makes us more money."

The studios are not being held hostage by the fans. They have decided that there is no point in gambling money on things like "An artist's judgement of what makes sense aesthetically and spiritually" because Star Trek, Star Wars, Marvel et al are things they own as products. Put out the next Star Trek brand product and the Star Trek fans will pay us for it.

What is a Star Trek brand product? It's whatever Star Trek fans will buy from us, no more, no less.

Which raises the question, say, how did all those harassed POC and woman actors get into all these franchises in the first place?

I'm not saying this is bad, mind you. Nothing wrong with giving talented actors more work in wider roles than they have previously had access to, that's actually great. I'm just saying it's worth asking the question of why it happened.

Because, as we have just established, the answer sure the fuck isn't "A coherent artistic vision".

These studios make decisions based primarily on fandom optics, so that means...

Oh my god you guys, I think the fandom is coming from inside the house.