#unsympathetic junko

[lil-toastie-boi]

Just some vent art about my fictionkin mems under the cut

[ovidiomedes]

i think. that dr3 would've been better if munakata had been undoubtedly right. the way the story currently stands munakata is painted as an unsympathetic asshole bc he punishes makoto for doing the right thing and saving the remnants

bc the narrative tells us that the remnants were brainwashed against their will. they are the victims of junko's actions! of course they deserve to be saved! that's why we want makoto to beat munakata

but i think the story could've been so much more compelling had munakata been right. had it not been brainwashing. had the remnants turned to despair completely out of their own free will.

bc then? do you support makoto in the same way? he's purposefully saving people who murdered millions out of their own free will. they weren't controlled by junko. they did it bc they wanted to, and makoto is still making an effort to rehabilitate them. would his execution be deserved? can you root for someone who is putting the world in harm's way bc he thinks he can save them? would those people even deserve forgiveness? could they even achieve it?

[despair-to-future-arcs]

You become a Remnant…

CHIAKI: So then...Given you all became Ultimate Despair, what did you do?

Simple, I had become queen after my parents got poison on the way home that I did then as an Ultimate Despair, I had rule to make sure that I never got tricked by anyone...

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*looking over a video message* Seems Junko is preparing a video message.

Sonia I've return finish my next kill.

Oh wonderful, thank you Gundham - at least my people will learn why they shouldn't defy me.

Now let's see what Junko has for us...

*Sonia had turn on the TV and a message from Junko appear*

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Heeey everyone, it is the leader of this cause Junko Enoshima, coming to inform you all about what was discover!

Now I'm sure some of you may have heard about loser group called Future Foundation and they started call us Ultimate Despair, can you believe it?

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Ultimate Despair? Are...Are they calling us that?

Future Foundation are turning us into the enemy, they truly deserve the worse!

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Yes yes, I know that you all must be denying that but it seems they want to make us look like the enemies here when all we are doing is sending a message.

So in retaliation I declare we call them 'World Ender' the very group that wants to destroy the world we want to create, to return us back to normal, shitty, boring lives. I'm sure none of you want that either, do you?

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Ugggh, why would they think we want to return things to normal?! They know nothing of our pain!

Exactly, I feel anger by this world ender, we must stop them!

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Then you all know what to do...

Make sure World Ender suffers for crossing with us and make sure to spread the message that Hope's Peak Academy is at fault for everything, best of luck everyone.

*CLICK*

As you wish Junko, as the new queen of Novoselic, I promise will make World Ender know they have mess with the wrong people. Let's go Gundham...

'We had never call ourselves Ultimate Despair, we... we were those trying to make change, World Ender were the ones that wanted to return things back to normal...we couldn't allow it...'

'As queen of my country, I had offer aid to countries in conflict, I had assassinated anyone that dare defy me and make sure I was the last to rule the country...'

'I had rule for sometime but in return I bottle my emotions, became unsympathetic and rule with an iron fist my...my people hated me...'

'Me and Gundham had work together to spread more despair, we worked to kill and make sure to continue on Junko's will after she died, that...is what we did...'

[thenewfuture]

This goes back to that previous criticism I made about Hiyoko's simulated death scene. The closest comparison I can think of would be "slasher movie victim writing". Where a character is so utterly unlikable that it feels like you're meant to outright cheer on their murderer subjecting them to a grisly death. That's how it came across, and the current scene is really not helping matters at all. Especially the implication that Hiyoko owes the people who framed her for murder an apology. Just…no. That is ridiculously unfair, and Fuyuhiko and Peko are mature enough to know damn well that they're not entitled to that. In fact that's something else that I feel needs addressing. The writing's emphasis on sympathizing with the murderers is getting a little...much. I mean yes, of course we the audience can and should find it in our hearts to forgive them. But I think they're being let off the hook a little too easily. Mainly at the expense of the people they harmed. And it's not just Hiyoko being unsympathetic compared to her own murderer and the people who framed her. Or Mahiru coming across as the unreasonable party in the matter of settling what happened in Chapter 2 and in the Twilight Syndrome incident. But also cases like with Gundham and Teruteru or with Teruteru. Yes all things considered, Gundham is the most sympathetic blackened in the game. And there was a gentleman's agreement going on. But I think the others would be quite right to call them out on the fact that they didn't need to get two people killed or have a lengthy class trial. One person committing suicide and making it as obvious as possible that they did so (like Sakura did) would have sufficed. They let male pride needlessly complicate matters (and unintentionally led to Nagito's later actions down the road). Teruteru frankly was let off way too damn easy for his actions. Unlike Sayaka and Leon in the first game he had a far better understanding of what the cost of committing a murder and getting away with it would mean for his classmates. And he had an ENTIRE DAY to think things through and report Nagito to the others. Plus unlike his co-conspirator, he doesn't get the excuse of being mentally ill for wanting to start the Killing Game. He really needs a scene where he owns up to the fact that he bares equal responsibility to Nagito. And speaking of Nagito, he seems to be the one killer who's the exception to this treatment. Being scorned by everyone for his actions. Even though when you look at things objectively his was perhaps the most understandable and sympathetic reason for starting a class trial that didn't involve mind control or self-sacrifice. No one shows empathy for his actions in Chapter 5 or acknowledges that Monokuma manipulated him into mutilating himself to death. By deliberately withholding the part about the Junko AI possessing them all. And probably also the fact that they were brainwashed and didn't commit those crimes of their own free will, judging by the way that Junko's AI tries to downplay those claims when Makoto intervenes. On their own, with no one there to offer emotional support, it is likely that any of the Remnants would have completely snapped if they'd been in his position during that revelation. I'm sorry but it feels like there are a lot of double standards going on when it comes to the "problematic class members".

I cannot apologize enough if Hiyoko's death scene seemed unsympathetic and harsh. Maybe it was and I went too far trying to get the point across or convey it. But even so, I am still proud of that work and I swear to you it was supposed to have the exact opposite effect. Even so, I'm going to break down the rest of your ask here because....wow is it a lot...

Murderer sympathizing. So if you've played any murder mystery game; DanganRonpa, Ace Attorney, Zero Escape, etc..., you know that it primarily focuses on figuring out who committed a crime and more importantly WHY they did it. Motives for killers vary over games and mysteries, but there comes a time when you can understand a killer's motivation. Now, no sane and stable person would ever kill someone in real life, but if you can understand the push as to what drove them to such actions, then that character has depth and is in some ways relatable. DanganRonpa is full of these types of characters, on the sole basis that the players are TRAPPED IN AN ENCLOSED SPACE! Killing to get out is encouraged! Almost every character in these games would have at least one reason to kill, making them all sympathetic! Now of course there are some outliers in the mix(Celeste, Despair-state Mikan, Korekiyo) but the ratio of sympathetic to not is quite high. So why did I say all this? Well, you the payer have to understand why some killers did the crimes they committed? Well then so should the characters by default too. Especially in an enclosed setting like DanganRonpa, the characters have to come to grievance that some amongst them has just died. How could they possibly react to that? Well Hiyoko reacts like this:

Hiyoko was there when she heard Teruteru say he not only wanted to stop Nagito from murdering someone, but to also see if his sick mom was all right after all this time had passed. And yet, she say this. So its clear Hiyoko has the mindset of: kill=bad. She is the outlier of the group. Hiyoko cannot understand why Teruteru would do such a thing, or why others would feel sorry for him. Hiyoko is the one in the wrong here.

2. Hiyoko owes Fuyuhiko and Peko an apology. Okay, we understand sympathy for killing somewhat, right? Good. Let's move on to Fuyuhiko and Peko. Fuyuhiko found out his sister was murdered. His classmate knows something but won't tell him. In fact, she even hid evidence and lied about the fact just to cover up her own. Fuyuhiko has every right to be pissed! And in some cases, the right to kill Sato for what she did! Okay? Okay. On to Peko. Now of course I'm not expecting one to understand the feeling Peko has of being used by the Yakuza and basically a weapon only to serve someone else. But the want to protect someone from becoming the blackened is understandable at the very least, no? Now, OF COURSE, Hiyoko has every right to be royally pissed at being framed for murder. I don't expect to forgive them easily. In fact, if you saw this blog at all, you'll know that Fuyuhiko and Peko apologized to her first! They are fully aware of not expecting an apology from Hiyoko. They've made peace with that fact. Hiyoko DOES owe them an apology for bursting in on their therapy session! Now again, you may say that aspect is going too far and you'd be right. I personally think it falls in line with Hiyoko putting her beliefs and ideologies first and wanting others, especially her best friend, to agree with her take on it. I mean it's already pretty on brand with what the two do. Hiyoko does something bad, and Mahiru just accepting it.

3. Gundam and Nekomaru. Now I'm not here to discuss the moral implications of murder versus suicide. I will say this though. Chapter 4's trial and murder was about wanting to live, no matter what. Hajime's offer to not kill and just starve to death was just throwing life away as Gundam put it. It's like stories of a soilder who would rather fight with a stick than just to give up and die. He has no options left and his chances are pretty slim, but he still wants to live. That's the whole reason behind Nekomaru and Gundam's duel. A duel for life. Whether the others live or Gundam wins the class trial, no one is giving up on life. Everyone wants to live. And so they fight for that honor.

4. Nagito. "speaking of Nagito, he seems to be the one killer who's the exception to this treatment. Being scorned by everyone for his actions. Even though when you look at things objectively his was perhaps the most understandable and sympathetic reason for starting a class trial"

Okay that may have been in pretty low to go for that, but still. I'll humor you and say that Nagito maaaaaaay have had a good reason for it. Stopping suppossed psychotic terrorists does sound like a good enough reason.......too bad he ruined it by basically insulting everyone in the 4th trial and half of Chapter 5. He kept insulting the others and especially Hajime for reasons ONLY HE KNEW ABOUT! Monokuma did not manipulate Nagito in any way, in fact it was the exact opposite. Monokuma simply gave him the file because he cleared Russian Roulette at the highest difficulty, I don't he expected anyone else to do that. Nagito's plan was all his own! You think Monokuma could have predicted out of ALLLLLL options to murder the gang, that Nagito would just choose to poison a fire grenade and let his luck choose the one person he wanted to win!? Now you say that the file hid the fact of Junko trying to possess their bodies and that they were brainwashed, but OOPS I guess we'll never know because Nagito ripped the fucking pages out by the time Hajime and Chiaki get to it. Thanks, you ugly trash turnip. Maybe he knew, maybe he didn't, we'll never know. We're simply just playing guess at this point, so it's futile to justify this action any further. Bottom line: Nagito did it all his own without any help because that's how deeply committed he his to his own ideology about hope and Ultimates.

Anyway, I keep saying Hiyoko will get better, but if you're still on this and you don't believe me or won't even like where I go with it. Then it's probably best if you leave, honest. I won't make you stay and read my blog if it upsets you this much. It was not my intent, honest.

I am really tired, it is so late that I stood up making this answer....

-Mod

[5-7-9]

I think it’s nuts how Junko fron Dangaronapa is being compared to The Joker, a queer caricature that’s meant to make fun of gay men.

Why are people so obsessed with removing any reasoning behind why people could act the way they do, or explanations to people’s behavior, as if evil is something true??? Even Satan, aka Lucifer, the EPITOME OF EVIL had a tragic backstory!!!

The issue with tragic backstories has never been because it’s tragic, but because many narratives love to excuse bad behavior with trauma, as if they believe trauma makes people villains when that’s not usually the case.

Junko was meant to be as unsympathetic as possible so she doesn’t have a backstory (*coughs* just like Joker *coughs*), but she seemed privileged as fuck with her position to evade laws and rules and torture others and hold multiple equipment. In actuality, Junko feels like an accidental privileged evils of the world, imagine a rich person being so bored they’d want to torture you? That’s literally her.

It’s also interesting to note that she’s a girl, a really girly girl, and girls are usually associated with evil and dangerous (if not peaceful) in many mythologies.

I don’t believe in centrist garbage about being apolitical.

But anyway, Dangaronopa is obviously another result from “i’m so sick and tired from work stress and Imma either go crazy or die” which has depressive symptoms. And the youthfulness of Junko could really be about GenZ being seen as carefree enough to actually break and do something. Highschool specifically is a classic before all that work has to happen. Pretty sure the story comes from a guy that understands, and really Junko is a intrusive fantasy who isn’t meant to be looked up upon. Very very intrusive thought from stress, i have it too, that’s why Junko likes misery, because intrusive thoughts are the results of adrenaline, and adrenaline is found in stress but also pleasure. I often confuse my emotions because of that too.

Anyway, people saying The Joker is the evilest again, ughhhhhhh 🙄

[rubberduckyrye]

Oh man!!!

I do love me the Tragedy of the Twins and the unsympathetic tragedy of Kenzo becoming the monster that once abused him. Delicious stuff I tell you--I'm really happy that so far I haven't gotten anyone accusing me of trying to make Kenzo sympathetic by acknowledging the cycle of abuse and that Kenzo was, himself, a victim. That doesn't excuse ANYTHING he did, ofc.

Yeah when I was developing him, I wanted to make sure people saw Kenzo as a monster but never associate him with one of the "bad" disorders. I also don't want to make him sympathetic, either, by dwelling on his backstory and what made him into the monster we love to hate.

I never plan on getting married (AROACE FTW) so I luckily don't have to worry about that. I totally get it though, it REALLY sucks that the government is so against disabled people... I think there shouldn't be discrimination against disabled people who are married like that's the weirdest thing. So like is the Government expecting the partner to pay for everything??? In this economy??? In this day and age? Damn what a backwards mindset.

I'm jealous you got out of your wheelchair though I am still struggling with my back problems orz But I'm glad you got better, even if you're not sure how! Still, it might be worth reconsidering disability benefits. Even if one day you find someone and get married, it might be worth getting them asap if you believe you can't work. Even temporary assistance is still assistance.

I couldn't tell you who my first soulbound was because I had so many "imaginary friends" as a kid it's unreal nfsknfjkds

Oh nice! Thank you for that information, it's very helpful! :D IT sounds like a whole lot to deal with though. Still, good information to keep in mind!

Oh man, I bet--though tbh I actually don't think Junko has ASPD. Not in the sense that you might be thinking of--because she doesn't actually seem to disregard the feelings and safety of others. In fact, it's the fact she does care about other people that drives her despair, since she's literally performing the greatest acts of self harm and sabotage due to her over-analytical brain making the world around her so boring that she can't feel anything except the pain of self loathing and despair. Honestly when you realize she is self harming (trying to make herself feel Despair (AKA Anything) to be free of the boredom) she becomes more of a cautionary tale of how hyper intelligence can lead to extreme self destruction--and maybe about how the world failed a literal genius where, had the world not failed to help her, she could have brought a golden era of humanity to the world. But I might be getting to analytical here LMAO

Anyway I mentioned before that I can kind of relate to Junko now, and that's via my ADHD. So naturally I'm giving her the most Severe Case of ADHD known to man. (I don't like giving my villains the "bad" disorders so even Junko cannot be given this in my stories fdjklgndfkgjs)

I actually had a little joke about that when the Despair Mascot! Kokichi stuff was a thing, where there was a joke an anon made about Mikan suggesting Kokichi had ADHD and Junko realizing that SHE had ADHD and wanting to be on the strongest dose. Then she's pacified because her brain can finally calm TF down.

@kindlyre

Okay I'm VERY curious as to what mental illness you're writing Rantaro to have because it seems to be one of those stigmatized ones and I'm v curious???

[prompt-master]

i really think junko would just try to kill everyone anon. so would the joker. the whole point of characters like junko or the joker is that taking out your own negative emotions like hurt or boredom on the world harms good and innocent people?? huh???

Yes this is what I mean by them being unsympathetic and working BEST as unsympathetic characters. Take that away. And they aren't themselves anymore. If Enoshima becomes some sort of anti hero who isn't just in love with suffering to the nth degree then she just...isn't Enoshima.

[to-nae-giri]

AND ALL THE PLAYER HAS TO DO WAS YELL ‘HOPE’ AT THE REMAINING STUDENTS TO UNDO JUNKO’S SCHEME AND SHE DESPAIRS AT HER LOSING SO SHE OFFS HERSELF?

[ghostshadow-k-r]

Speak of Danganronpa antagonist,you can't ignore her,the beginning of the despair,the queen of chaos berself,Enoshima Junko

Rose Trend was just her pseudonym,her real name was Despair.As the daughter of Noku the Draconeqqus King,she perfectly inherited Noku's personality.Selfish,unsympathetic, arrogant,it's all a part of her.

She has wisdom beyond the reach of ordinary pony,which is a blessing and a curse.She could predict the future,but she'll quickly bored of it.So,that's why she was obsessed in despair.

She was one of the reason that The Biggest, Most Awful, Most Tragic Event in Equestria History was happened.

She forced the student council to kill each other,but the winner was killed by Rose Trend her self.She used Gentle Autumn's death to let her classmates fell in to despair.She manipulated her childhood friend and lover,Rigor Neuron to erase her memory to escape the investigation.

But,under her chaotic despair,just a girl who wants to live an ordinary life.Maybe that was why that she will turn into Vermilion Rose when her memory was being erased.But Vermilion Rose was just Rose Trend's dream.

When she died,the Remnants of Despair took her body parts.But Darkness End took her soul,and bring her soul in to the New World Program.She met Gentle Autumn again at there,dueling each other to see which side could win.But in the end,she lose.Her soul also dissipated in the despair of that second death.

The queen of chaos is dead,and all that's left there was just an innocent red unicorn.

My Mlp AU sidenote:When draconeqqus disguise themselves into another creature,their limbs will remains their original appearance.So they had to wear boots to hide those claws and paws

[giveamadeuschohisownmovie]

Analysis of the murders in the first two Danganronpa games (from the perspective of a law school student) - part 2:

Most likely to be acquitted/given a reduced prison sentence:

Chiaki Nanami. Not only does she have the least serious charge (involuntary manslaughter), a really good defense attorney could push the narrative that Nagito Komaeda is more at fault. He’s the one who was pushing for Chiaki to kill him and created the circumstances that led to that result. This would make Chiaki look really good for the jury and would cast a negative light on the prosecution. Plus, Chiaki’s sweet and loving character would endear her to the jury, which is a another boost to her case.

So gamer girl stans, go ahead and rejoice since if Chiaki were to go on trial for Nagito’s death, she’d most likely be either acquitted or given a short sentence. 

Least likely to be acquitted/given a reduced prison sentence (also most likely to get the death penalty or multiple life sentences):

Junko Enoshima. This one’s a no-brainer; Junko intentionally killed her sister and organized the entire killing game. The first degree murder is enough to put her away but if I were the prosecutor, I’d throw in all of her other crimes as aggravating factors. False imprisonment, torture, kidnapping, duress, solicitation to commit murder, and so on.

Also, aside from the mountain of evidence and crimes stacked against her, Junko’s character would ruin her in the courtroom. She’s extremely rude, she loves abusing people and she has contempt for nearly everyone around her. I doubt she’d have a single juror on her side by the end of her case. The best defense attorney in the world wouldn’t be able to endear her to any jury or judge. 

Most likely to get the insanity defense:

Mikan Tsumiki. This one’s difficult to prove but I’d say Mikan has a shot at the insanity defense based on what we know of her mental state. She’s been abused her entire life, then had her worldview warped by Junko. So if I were her defense attorney, I’d raise serious questions regarding her state of mind.

It’s really going to come down to whether Mikan was aware that what she did was legally wrong or morally wrong. If she wasn’t aware, then she could get the defense. It’s a definite longshot but you could make the argument that because she was solely focused on appeasing Junko, she was behaving in a manner that indicated she wasn’t aware her actions were legally and morally wrong. 

Will that argument succeed? Eh...maybe? But compared to the other killers, I’d say Mikan has the only chance to succeed at getting this defense. 

Killer who would have the most difficult trial:

Mondo Owada. Oh boy, this is the only killer who I would say the defense and prosecution have their work cut out for them. It’s mainly because I could see arguments from both the defense and prosecution.

For the defense, they’re gonna have to go in hard on the PTSD/mental health defense. Mind you, it’s not the “insanity defense”. Mondo wouldn’t get that since he’s aware the killing is both legally and morally wrong. Instead, it’s using his trauma to put his actions into context. Yes, him striking Chihiro can be considered an unprovoked and inexcusable attack. However, the defense could argue that Chihiro unknowingly triggered Mondo, thus putting the strike into context. 

Also, a plus to arguing trauma; Mondo says that he blacked out from rage after he hit Chihiro. That could be read as a sign that Mondo’s trauma did factor into his actions. 

Now how would the defense argue this? They’re gonna have to put in the money and hire an expert psychiatrist/mental health expert to examine Mondo and testify to the court. They would then have to hope that the expert’s testimony is enough to sway the jury that Mondo was acting in the “heat of passion” and that his violent response to Chihiro accidentally triggering him was “objectively reasonable” in context to his trauma. If successful, this would lower Mondo’s charge from 2nd degree murder to voluntary manslaughter.

However, for the prosecution, they would absolutely rail against this. For one, they could argue that the trigger that started this is unreasonable. “Heat of passion” is more used to refer to incidents where it was obvious that the defendant was acting out in rage. For example, a parent killing a guy who was trying to kidnap their child. Still murder, but perfectly understandable. For Mondo, all the jury would be presented with is Chihiro opening up to Mondo, then Mondo freaking out and killing him in response. The prosecution would argue that the response was way out of proportion to what a reasonable person would do.

Also, the prosecution could go after Mondo’s character. Remember, he’s a biker gang leader. The prosecutor could easily argue that violent responses to his problems are normal for him considering that he’s a criminal. Then, there’s the trauma itself. Although the defense could prove that Mondo was suffering some sort of trauma, the prosecution could counter by pointing at the source to this. Mondo felt extreme guilt and stress...from accidentally getting his brother killed in an attempt to prove his manliness and that he could take over his brother’s spot as biker gang leader. Just saying, this would absolutely ruin Mondo in the eyes of the judge and jury. It makes him look unsympathetic since his guilt and stress came from him committing a blatant power grab from his brother.

And last note, even with all of this...the PTSD/mental health testimonies and evidence could be left out of the jury instructions in case the judge believes them to be irrelevant to the case. Not saying this would happen, I’m just saying it’s a possibility. 

All this said, this is why I feel Mondo’s case would be the most difficult. There are several ways the prosecution and defense can argue their case and it would really depend on the judge and jury. 

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Not weak

Soniakane hurt/comfort. After the events of trial 4, both girls are sad and find comfort by eachother: Part 1

Takes place in chap 5 before the murder.

Tw: Angst, throwing stuff, crying, spoilers

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Takes place before they all go to Hopes Peak

Mikan notices something is off about Ibuki

Tw: angst, mention of not eating

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Ibuki angst with platonic IbukixHiyoko: Oneshot

Maybe gonna make a following up oneshot

Ibuki finds herself in a dark locked room

Tw: blood, death, hanging, slit throat, angst ofcourse,....

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Tw: self doubt, implied brainwashing, self loathing

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Remus remembers the good days: Oneshot

Tw: angst, blood, abuse, bruises, unsympathetic Patton

Logie Bear

Patton takes care of Logan's wounds: Oneshot

Tw: angst, wounds, abuse, torture, unsymp Remus is mentioned (he isn't unsymp), unsympathetic Patton

A Good Kind of Different

Logan angst my brain came up with at 1 am: Oneshot

Tw: Angst, crying, manipulation, gaslighting, Unsympathetic Patton, mouth stitched closed, touchstarvation

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Just Dance

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Panda's out of the bag

One shot/Maybe Part 1

Something is wrong with the portal..or is it something else?

TW: Angst (kinda), secrets being revealed

[nozomuaoyama]

DVHS Reactions - 3.1

I had to tackle this in multiple rounds because I can’t process much today.

Reread 1:

You know what would be a good motive? Cutting the lights everywhere. Makes murder easier and gives an incentive.

Anyone. Wait, are the mastermind and Monokuma separate people? Is Monokuma (AI Junko?) telling the mastermind “step up your game or you die too”?

Okay, chapter 3 is usually the unsympathetic killer one, right? I’m thinking either you’ll change it up and make one of the victims unsympathetic (motive caused them to snap, “if i’m going down i’m taking someone out with me” style, in which case that would probably be Oshiro, Yoshida, or maybe Aoyama) or make the killer the most sympathetic (because. obvious.)

I can also see a double murder-suicide (involving 3 people) happening here—like I said already, can’t be punished if you’re dead.

Abe. Abe Abe Abe. Still very sus.

You promised??? Dude what did you promise?

Wait, is he a double agent? For both the mastermind and FF?

Reread 2:

Parent friends squad. (Maybe add Matsumoto. He has dad friend vibes.)

She slept in her bloody clothes?

“He's been calm this entire time.” Paradoxically, I think he’s going to be a culprit, especially with his little intense moment in…arc 1, I think.

Maybe Oshiro (so suspicious, she’s not suspicious) as chapter 4 victim, Ikeda as chapter 4 killer.

First time, I thought she was going to go to Miyuki’s dorm and cry.

The layout feels the same as Hope’s Peak, except for the rink, and that could just be a frozen pool.

Plot twist: Someone surprises Yoshida, she breaks the air purifier, and everyone dies. The mastermind is not pleased.

I feel like starvation and a broken wrist do not mix well.

…that counted as investigation, right? Anyway, rule doesn’t says you have to try hard.

I can see the connection between this Monokuma Theatre and the mastermind.

“I flash back to days ago, when he said I would make a better leader than Miyuki. Was he waiting for something like this to happen?” …

That would actually be good mastermind behaviour. Intentionally provoking the protag to get her to react, getting her best friend / crush to die so she can step up, and then acting like he was always right. (That could also just be ego, though.)

Camila is red, and Abe is blue. That should mean something.

…what if Abe is the person this killing game is designed for? (SDRA2 spoilers, like how the killing game was intended to make Yuki into Utsuro.)

You are getting into this quickly. Is the mastermind on a time limit, like with SDR2? Was this the plan of the second copy of AI Junko?

Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah, I definitely see some sort of murder-suicide happening.

Abe opening up? Yes. Good kid.

Yasu is a mood.

Wonder if Hamasaki and Fujimoto (Hamamoto?) are still going to put on a concert but in a low-key way.

Theory: The killing game is masterminded by a student, with the second copy of AI Junko masterminding that student and playing Monokuma, at around the same time as SDR2, and its purpose is to mold either Abe or Camila into a suitable Ultimate Despair. (Not just a Remnant, an Ultimate.) I’m not sure how that combines with my double agent Abe theory, but I like it.

[despair-to-future-arcs]

That actually reminds me of something that kind of relates to our talk before about Protag interactions. I realise that with the context of both blogs, Nagi and Kuripa could get into a very interesting…conversation…about Mukuro.

For Nagi, Mukuro is the demon who stole her legs and ruined everyone’s lives. For Kuripa, she’s an older sister figure who he looks up to, and one of very few people whom he gladly trusts with his life.

They are ultimately different characters despite being the same person, but the can of worms that gets opened up is amazing because it’s like the complete OPPOSITE of how both of them usually are.

Nagi being so unsympathetic of Mukuro, and Kuripa actively defending and praising her.

//Well in this story, Mukuro didn't remove Nagi's legs or anything like she does in NWPM but I can't say her views of Mukuro are going to be the most positive given that Junko still wanted Mukuro to kill her after the first fail attempt/make sure all of Class 77-B knew both Yukio and Nagi were dead to have them fall into Despair and she didn't have an issue with that order and Mukuro still decided to help her sister with all this without complaint.

//So to Nagi she doesn't really know if Mukuro could be redeem or not; mostly she took the issue with Mukuro being an enabler and enabling a lot of Junko's behavior and tendencies, while sure there is a situation where Mukuro did survive and started to realize how toxic her sister is (DR IF) but to Nagi - It's a what if and in the reality she's in, Mukuro is dead and there's no way of knowing if Mukuro would of change her ways or not.

//Probably later in the story she maybe could see it, but at this point Nagi isn't sure what to think; all she knows is that Mukuro helped Junko turn all of her Classmates to Despairs and sure, Mikan did too but again she only turn that way is due to Satoko their teacher and Mikan's own traumatic past.

//So to Nagi, her views of Mukuro are very complicated and mix and I could see discussions with Nagi and Kuripa being like;

'Look, Mukuro isn't a bad person - she can change and become better; you need to understand that she isn't a bad person despite what she did.'

'Well sadly for the reality I'm from, she continue helping her sister until her death, so I can't speak for other realities but if she can then that's good to hear, but for the Mukuro I knew; she still went along with it and enable a lot of sister's behavior...'

//So I do think their interactions are a 'agree to disagree' type of dynamic if Mukuro comes up.

[thebadchoicemachine]

Danganronpa: We’ve given this character a crazy backstory to flesh them out and make them eevviil and interesting!

Me: You’ve fucked up a perfectly good character is what you’ve done. Look at him, his personality now boils down to inscest AND a sctick that’s a carbon copy of Toko (which was fucking ableist to begin with) but even less okay. 

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Not to mention gave up a really cool possibility of having two separate killers and needing everyone to live with a murderer who wasn’t blackened. And it was so obvious?? I was certain it would be a red herring and when they said the second kil wouldn’t matter I was so excited to see it play out but nope, same killer, bullshit reason, just *shudders* i had such high hopes.

I get that the whole point is despair and that it’s a horror game and all but you’re also trying to make something people enjoy, yeah? 

Junko was despair and interesting. Mikan was despair inducing and interesting (I actually hated her character until her trial). Celeste was despair inducing and interesting. Nagito was despair inducing and interesting. All their twists ADDED ON to their character. Korekiyo’s just steam rolls his. He already had a set up for an unsympathetic motive!! He already was morally ambiguous and smart and capable. it’s just fucking shock value. 

This is the narrative equivalent of a cheep jumpscare but worse because now a promising character is just trashed.

[bonni]

tw: dangan ronpa ship discourse

i do understand why people see naejunko as a rival ship especially since it’s protag/antag BUT. i honestly think naegi is too nice to be a true rival to junko. he seems to show genuine concern for her throughout the last trial, and especially when contrasted with hinata’s (very unsympathetic) attitude towards her in the last sdr2 trial, it’s clear that naegi is genuinely the kind of person who can see the good in everyone and thinks that everyone deserves a second chance. i think that if they had any kind of relationship it would be one in which naegi tries to help junko (while she simultaneously tries to corrupt him). anyway this is all a long winded way of saying that imo the true dr1 rival ship? JUNKIRI. they’re the two smartest characters in the first game and possibly the whole series (aside from hinata’s mary sue oc) and i could definitely see them having a convoluted light/l type dynamic. if they were friends or even had feelings for each other before the killing game... imagine the drama. plus let’s be real kirigiri is the real protagonist of dr1 anyway