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sweetbunpura · 5 months ago
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What exactly happened at Ramshackle?
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I have a theory as to why the place is large enough to be a dorm with a large enough property as well. Back when NRC was established, it used to have magic and magicless students attending. Ramshackle was the dorm for magicless students and it wasn't called Ramshackle back then. It was still heavily based on magic, but still had activities for those without it. They weren't fully ostracized by their peers and were welcome into these spaces.
But some magicless students still wanted to be included in all activities and so, using one of the forbidden books in the library (before they became forbidden), they found a way to become able to wield magic and gave it to every single magicless student. But something went wrong in the end and they died, due to their body not being able to process something they've never had. Most overblotted, some the magic ate away at their bodies like a parasite, others tried a find a way to get rid of it and ended up disappearing.
It was the greatest tragedy NRC had ever seen for a newly established school. After that, the school began to house only those who had magic and Ramshackle fell into ruin and disrepair. Out of respect for those who died or out of fear of their lingering wailing ghosts, who knows. But it remained untouched for years until the mirror pulled someone from another world into the school.
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crystallizsch · 10 months ago
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i really like how canonically yuu is genuinely supportive of grim wanting to be a great mage. if i recall correctly, even character voice lines point this out. and it seems like yuu dotes on grim a lot and defends him too??? yuu even encourages grim's ambitions whenever he declares wanting to be a great mage. and also when he does that boss-henchhuman dynamic. i mean yeah you can interpret it as yuu saying that being condescending and sarcastic as if they're talking to a child saying "when i grow up i want to be famous!" but like. i really think they're genuine when mc loves grim in their own way.
even if grim is usually a menace, he's become like family to yuu.
and i'm pretty sure grim feels the same way.
think about it this way. despite all the mess, all the unpredictability, the danger, and all the drama being in nrc. what's always the constant? yuu goes home at the end of the day to the ramshackle dorm (basically their home at this point considering they slowly but surely fix it up over time) and with who? “the great mage” grim. as the sole outcasts in that academy, they both sleep soundly knowing they will always have each other at the end of the day.
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dorkus-mcdingus · 1 month ago
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Writing this because I'm huffing copium rn and I'm still not over Skully! God that kid was such a huge sweetheart and I hate that we never got to meet him outside of the book! 😭
When you first enter Ramshackle in all of its dusty, dilapidated glory, sure the three ghosts are there to give you one hell of a welcome but for some reason, you felt another presence in the old dorm. You couldn't put your finger on it, but you could tell that the spirit meant no harm. Matter of fact, they seemed to be quite friendly and gentle. Almost as if they're telling you whenever you and Grim come back,
"Rest your weary head. The day is finally over. Go ahead and sleep peacefully tonight."
By the time October rolls around, you start to hear little giggles, maybe the feeling of a kiss on your forehead or hand, as well as the gentle presence of someone guarding you while you sleep. All in all, the odd spirit's presence is far stronger than before. Maybe because they say that October is the month where the veil between the living and the dead grows thinner but once you and your friends get sucked into that book, you hear a gentle voice calling you to wake up as you were sleeping in his arms. You couldn't put your finger on it, but there was something about that boy that seemed familiar but after setting up Halloween with Jack Skellington, you were so excited to meet this boy in the real world but alas, he knew that his time was far beyond yours.
"No... I understand now. I will never meet with you lovely people again. But… We can always meet through Halloween."
When you returned to the real world, you couldn't remember what happened but upon seeing the portrait of that mysterious boy, there was something familiar about him. His warmth, his kindness, that feeling of love and fear around Ramshackle Dorm during Halloween, you finally found out the spirit's name.
"Skully J. Graves."
Call him your guardian angel, the spirit that protects you and your dorm, but what's a Housewarden if he can't look after his students?
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meiusoo-twistedtwst · 2 months ago
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He’s so skrunkly . . .
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rayroseu · 7 months ago
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Well, as expected there'll be a Book 7 update on May lol
BUT the interesting thing is, the special SSR for this chapter is a Savanaclaw Rook Hunt!!!
Yk referring to the fact that he wasn't originally from Pomefiore, he just transferred there becaise of Vil---I wonder if the next dream we'll travel unto is Rook's??? Or Vil??
I mean, it can be Vil as well, since he does have Malleus magic in him when Malleus cured his aging bcs of the Underworld and he has memories of Savanaclaw Rook, and there are instances on Book 7 where the special SSR isnt necessarily the dreamer (Like Cerberus Ortho SSR).
I believe he can be a candidate of Silver's UM condition that the dreamer must "be special to Silver", I know thats pretty vague, BUT they do have the connection of having both light void magic 👀
I know its obvious Book 7's plot outline is they'll be travelling in dreams of people, so the fact Rook is next, means Savanaclaw might get the spotlight this time, I do remember there was a rumor that Leona will be important for Book 7???
I wonder if the last dorm that we will travel unto is Ramshackle, like we've been theorizing lolol Because Ramshackle is always the place that Malleus resorts to "once he's been back down to a corner"
YES I'M STILL WISHING FOR YUU INVOLVEMENT AJDGJAHGJA BOOK 7 ENDING IS FAR and I will not lose hope for my real favorite dorm 😤😤🙌🙌🙌😭😭🙏🙏🙏 if savanaclaw can get plot significance on Book 7, then FREAKING RAMSHACKLE CAN DO IT IN THE FUTURE!!!!
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SSR: Idia, Vil, and Malleus SR: Trey and Ruggie, R: Ace and Jamil
WAHHHH The third TSUMTSUM event😭😭🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖💚💞💕💞
ALSOOO THERES AN SSR MALLEUS DRACONIA FOR THIS TSUM TSUM EVENT‼️‼️‼️‼️😭😭😭
All it took is for one year.... one year for him to have an SSR card event 😭😭😭🙏💞💖💕 I feel like my dead husband just came back to life HAHDHAHA
Ace getting the R cars again lolol he's truly the event card staple now HSHHASHA
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THEY'LL FINALLY BE COMPLETED 😭😭💞💖💞💕💞💕🙏🙏✨✨✨
I know theres no Yuu in Tsum tsum event 💔💔💔😭😭😭 and theres not even Grim on this event 💔💔💔😭😭😭 STILL!!!! STILL I HOPE YUU ENCOUNTERS MALLEUS TSUM 😭😭😭
Or not, just please make sure this event has plentiful wholesome Diasomnia interaction, I miss them being sweet to each other 😭😭🙏💕
In book 7, theyre often taunting Malleus or beating the other person up to cheer up from their dream (Sebek theraphy for Silver lmao) KDJAJFJA
ALSO WAIT.... am i going crazy or is there no TSUM TSUM SILVER IN THIS?????😭😭😭 I dont remember Silver getting a Tsum Card yet.... IS HE WITH GRIM????😳😳
NAHHH dont tell me we're getting tsum tsum Silver with Tsum Grim, Tsum Crowley and Tsum Mickey(?) XDDD
But its a pretty cute image that Diasomnia will be seaeching for Tsum Silver only to found he's at Ramshackle... KDJSKJSJ I still remember that TSUMTSUM pic where they ate ice shavings at ramshackle sofa!!(I cant find the pic of it now 😭💔)
edit: LMAO im blind, Tsum Silver is one of the SR cards for these XD
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mirrormazeworld · 4 months ago
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So because people already voiced their opinion on where twst story is heading, I also want to voice my opinion as well and I'm on neither side as this is purely from my perspective.
Well, we can all agree that the Diasomnia chapter is dragging too long and some of us are already bored of it (me, as Crowley stan who actually has been sleeping the entire Diasomnia chapter, no pun intended, but already made a peace out of it)
But still, am I the only one who is actually getting excited? No, I'm not talking about Diasomnia chapter. I'm actually talking about Ramshackle chapter.
Because the other day I found an info in X that Yana is on a long hiatus from Black Butler because she is going to England during her break to do research.
Now this might seem like she is doing this research only for Black Butler, but what if...the reason why twst seems to repeat the previous books on Diasomnia chapter is because :
1. They want to slip some hints that refer to book 8 (Ramshackle chapter) so that everything is suddenly making sense once we enter Ramshackle chapter, and
2. They also want to give Yana some period of time dedicated doing research for the last book, the Ramshackle chapter for Twisted Wonderland as well?
Because if twst is really heading to the direction of "Through The Looking Glass and What Alice Found There", just like how it has been hinted by in-game Mickey Mouse, then that means she is most likely doing research for Twisted Wonderland as well, because both Black Butler and the real literature of Alice in Wonderland with its sequel Through The Looking Glass are actually have something in common and that is : "Victorian Era"
Black Butler is telling a story about an Earl with his demon butler, and serves as the watchdog of Queen Victoria, which means the manga itself is about the Victorian era. While the original book of Alice in Wonderland and Through The Looking Glass was written during the Victorian era, in which so many cultures around that time had influenced it.
More about Twisted Wonderland and Through The Looking Glass theory can be seen here
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If this is really their way then I don't mind being starved throughout the Diasomnia chapter so that they can give me a beyond delicious Ramshackle chapter later. I will be fed well as both Crowley stan and yume if it's really this way so I'm not gonna complain 👀✨
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raven-at-the-writing-desk · 11 months ago
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You wanna know what I just realized....You know how in chapters 1-4 MC/Yu kept asking Crowley to go home. But Once Chapter 5-7 they stopped asking to go home and gave up. Why? Did they just change their minds once they got friends or did they just give up on trying completely until Orthro put it back in their brain? Or Did they just gave up on asking adults period?
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Oooh, interesting topic 🤔 I went back in each book to see when instances of Yuu asking about going home were brought up and (shockingly) this actually happens very little, maybe a few times max in the main story (not counting the prologue):
***Main story spoilers (INCLUDING book 7) below the cut!!***
In 1-19, Yuu does NOT ask Crowley; Crowley is the one who brings the topic up. He claims he is in the library to research a way to send Yuu home, and definitely is not reading the latest edition to a new novel before anyone else (which, come on, we all know Crowley is just giving a convenient excuse for himself). Crowley's presence here is then used to inform us of a way to dethrone Riddle via duel.
In 2-4, Yuu DOES ask Crowley when summoned to his office. Crowly then says he is busy preparing for an inter-dorm Magift/Spelldrive tournament, so he hasn't made any progress for Yuu. In 2-14, Yuu also wonders about when they will be able to go home while talking around the campus at night, but does not discuss it further with others.
In 3-6, Yuu does NOT ask Crowley; again, Crowley is the one to bring up the topic when trying to get Yuu to convince Azul to stop his shady dealings. He uses their rising food bills and all that "effort" he's putting into researching as a means to guilt trip Yuu into agreeing.
In 4-2, Yuu DOES ask Crowley if he's actually researching. This occurs because Crowley is all decked out for vacationing in a tropical destination, so Yuu of course questions whether he's doing any real work. Crowley defends himself by saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do!" and that he's broadening his knowledge base by researching in a southern region.
After book 4, there are no new explicit or even implied scenes of Yuu asking Crowley anything about home. However, 5-33 does feature a flashback to the prologue in which Crowley is struggling to find Yuu's home on a map.
There isn't really a strong mention of Yuu going home in book 6, unless you want to count Yuu talking to Mickey through the mirror and wondering what's on the other side.
7-10 and 7-11 has Ortho to concluding that the mirror with Mickey could be a "connection" to Yuu's original world, and can thus serve as a route home.
Most discussion of Yuu going home is concentrated in the prologue (as it is an important piece of the set-up and explanation for Yuu's presence in Twisted Wonderland), as well as book 7, when the issue becomes very relevant again. There is the occasional instance of Crowley using "oh, there might be information here about a potential way home" as an excuse to rope Yuu into an event's story (ie Glorious Masquerade), but nothing meaningful ever comes from it. These are just contrivances to bring Yuu and Grim along for a more immersive self-insert experience.
If you want a boring answer as to why Yuu asks/seems to care so little about going home and stops completely by the start of book 5, I would wager it's the metacontext. Even in books 1 through 4, Yuu going home is mentioned like maybe once and then is dismissed for the rest of the book. You’ll also notice that in these instances where Yuu going home is mentioned, they are almost immediately then used as a springboard to propel the problem of the week onto them to resolve. Yuu going home isn’t a plot point for most of the main story, it’s a plot device to force Yuu into an OB boy’s path.
There is very little urgency granted to finding a way home because you, the player, WANTS to be in this magical world even if Yuu, the actual in-game character, may be uneasy being away from their friends, family, and home world. Yuu's unease is most likely not depicted or not frequently brought up because it would interfere with the player's enjoyment of the escapism to another world. These desires very obviously clash with one another. However, because the game itself is trying to tell you its story, it has to provide a reason (no matter how nonsensical it is) for there to be no progress made in the search (thus keeping Yuu in Twisted Wonderland), and that reason often happens to be Crowley's incompetence. This is not true of all iterations of Yuu (as the light novel has a strong focus on Yuuya’s anxieties about being in a new world), but it must be this way specifically for in-game Yuu since they are the most easy one for players to project into.
If you're looking for a meatier answer, consider this: book 5 is the turning point in the main story. Before book 5, Yuu seems to defer to Crowley for finding a way home. They don't really wonder or investigate into this area on their own. By the start of VDC/SDC training, it's mid to late winter, or about halfway through the year. Given that Yuu is incentivized by the promise of renovations to let the NRC Tribe boys use Ramshackle as their base of operations, I get the impression that maybe Yuu thinks they'll be stuck in Twisted Wonderland for longer than initially anticipated. Rather than an "I give up", it feels like a "boy, this is taking a while so might as well upgrade the accommodations and make myself as comfy as possible while I wait it out" This thought is helped by the fact that book 5 is also the first time when both Yuu and Crowley don't mention them going home, but also nothing disparaging or hopeless is referenced. As I've said before, we still get a flashback from Yuu which is centered on them going home, so it's clearly still a topic on their mind. It's just not consistently shown to us so as to not interfere with players self-inserting or to avoid making the gaming experience not fun by focusing on Yuu's distress or worries.
Many other significant things happen in book 5 which makes it the "turning point": Malleus reveals his true identity to Yuu, Grim finally going a little feral from the blot stones, and Yuu seeing and speaking with Mickey clearly. From there, Yuu starts thinking about the mirror and how it could lead into another world. They begin to take more agency in their own return, later confiding in their friends about Mickey and what he means for them.
Book 6 mostly glosses over Yuu going home because... well, let's be honest, there's a lot more immediately at stake with six students being kidnapped and experimented on. Yuu's focus and concern is on getting them (and especially Grim) back safely. They weren't thinking about themselves or their own situation back then, they were thinking of others.
Going home returns in book 7 because it has story significance once again. Yuu going back to their own world adds to the growing dread and sense of loneliness that our OB boy for the evening, Malleus, feels over Lilia's departure. It helps to push him closer to the brink of snapping. What's more, this contributes to the overall themes and questions that book 7 poses: those of farewells, change, and leaving friends behind. These are sentiments that Ace, Deuce, and Grim discuss in 7-17, and they parallel Malleus's own anxious thoughts. In all previous books, Yuu's own quest to get home is not closely tied to the themes of a particular book, or it simply was not relevant to mention (it would disrupt the ongoing conflict or pacing).
Finally, to more address each of the specific things asked by the asker (since I know the information in this post is sort of all over the place and might be hard to match up to each question):
[Yuu] stopped asking to go home and gave up. Why?
Yuu did not frequently ask about going home to begin with. (Again, likely because on a metatextual level, the story needs an excuse for Yuu, ie the player, being present in Twisted Wonderland and experiencing its happenings.)
At that point, it comes down to individual interpretation as to why, but personally I believe Yuu realized that the solution was more complicated than just poofing up a portal home, so they decided to make themselves comfortable while they waited for updates rather than keep asking only to be constantly disappointed. Later on, events going on around Yuu become too hectic for them to focus on their own wants.
Did [Yuu] just change their mind once they got friends?
Wouldn’t this imply that Yuu didn’t consider Adeuce and Grim “real” friends until the start of book 5??? I just don’t think that’s true; they were friends way before this point, not hanging out with each other for convenience’s sake. Why would they sit together at lunch every day? Why would Yuu try to help Ace make amends with Riddle? And why would Ace defend Yuu when Riddle insults their upbringing? Why would Yuu try to free the idiots of their anemones at the risk of going homeless themselves? Why would Adeuce use public transportation to go all the way from the Queendom of Roses to Sage’s Island because of a SOS text from Yuu? The same logic goes for the Ramshackle Ghosts, who are very friendly with Yuu and Grim. They play games with them, tell them about the school, and even do Yuu’s chores for them while they’re held hostage in Scarabia.
I also think gaining friends isn’t necessarily a strong enough reason for Yuu to renounce their old life and suddenly be committed to staying. Yes, it can be said that this could change depending on individual interpretation of Yuu—but assuming a very basic backstory, a regular person would not be so quick to forgo their old friends, family, etc. I don’t think new friendships are a significant motivator for Yuu no longer asking about home.
Or did they just give up on trying completely until Orthro put it back in their brain?
Yuu didn’t stop thinking about going home just because they stopped asking about it. Post book 4, they are shown to have flashbacks to earlier discussions of going home. Yuu hardly ever expresses thoughts about their original world or wanting to go back (most likely to not break the self-insert immersion of their character), so it’s easy to perceive this as “Yuu gave up completely/Yuu forgot about it until book 7”.
Or did they just gave up on asking adults period?
I believe Crowley is the only adult Yuu really asks about finding a way back. I doubt Yuu actually thinks all adults are as useless in this endeavor as Crowley is, but we aren’t ever shown Yuu communicating in this manner to other adults. Crowley is the only “required” adult to interact with on account of being the headmaster typically forcing you into the plot anyway. In conclusion (I know I keep bringing this point up, but it’s because I truly believe in it), this is all probably done for convenience and/or to allow the player to fantasize and imagine themselves or their own Yuusonas navigating these circumstances. They don't want to constantly keep the story gloomy by having Yuu angst about how they miss home or how badly they want to go back. They want you, the player, to enjoy the world and the people of Twisted Wonderland and never want to leave, even if it may be contradictory to what Yuu themselves fails to express in the narrative. This is 100% intentional, and it's made clear because it ties in very deeply with the themes in book 7, which is when the idea of Yuu going home becomes extremely relevant again. Book 7 creates an analogy between a digital pet that Malleus owns and how sad he is that its lifespan has to end, that the digital pet is just "fiction designed to amuse". This is also true of what Twisted Wonderland (the game) is. The player is in the same circumstances as Malleus, who is too attached to his fiction and doesn't want to let it go.
As much as the game's structure encourages self-inserting, it cannot be denied that, ultimately, the perspective of the player ≠ the perspective of Yuu. The player does not actually have to worry about never returning home or being stuck in a foreign world, at the mercy of strangers (which, if not for entertainment purposes, would be something truly terrifying to deal with). The player is glimpsing into this other world for fun and can step away whenever they want. Yuu can't.
askhdvasoydvuealalf I know this was a lot, but I hope it made sense and properly communicated my thoughts ^^
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valy-gc · 8 months ago
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Who is the eighth?
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I've always said this place is bothering me. Why? Simple. It's not symetrical!!
I may be maniac about this but damn... this is so annoying 😤
I can't be the only one... am I?
Anyway...
Here is my theory/ies.
There is originally 8 "great ones". You know how they are seen as heroes, but as our (player) vision show, it's just that the story have been distorded... twisted. The truth is, certainly, some of their followers told the story in another way and it ended up how the characters in Twisted Wonderland knows it. After all, it happened long LONNNG ago.
BUT! What if one of them had the real story revealed? Like, everyone see him as a hero and suddenly, the truth is found, all the horrible things he did. Then, peoples would clearly not worship that person anymore, right?
So my theory is that there was an eighth one, but his story was revealed. That's also why there is another dorm (Ramshackle). His statue and portrait is certainly hidden somwhere in the depht of NRC... maybe in a basement at Ramshackle?
And so, I thought A LOT about this forgotten "hero". There are a lot that aren't represented in twst. Hook, Gothel, Clayton.... too long to tell them all.
We can eleminate Honest John and Frollo, of course.
Then, a revelation! Disney have actually a "forgotten" movie! A masterpiece in my own opinion, but nobody ever talk about it!
So, this is my guess.
Ramshackle and the eighth great one are the Horned King!!
(pardon my ugly edit)
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sc11207316 · 10 months ago
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100% a stretch but im in an Epic Mickey mood so im saying it anyway!
The most prominent colours of ramshackle (not including brown) seem to be Green and Blue. These colours are especially noticeable when Ramshackle is fixed/being fixed.
In Epic Mickey the colours Green and Blue are fairly important as they represent Paint and Thinner which is the main mechanic in the game (fighting blot and solving puzzles)
this is once again a stretch but I thought it was kinda neat the dorm housing Mickey Mouse himself has these colours.
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sweetbunpura · 5 months ago
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History Paper: Ramshackle...
What exactly happened at Ramshackle?
So this is a tie in to that post because I thought more on the idea on how all of this gets found out. So, end of the year, the freshmen have to do a paper about the history of their dorm. Given that not much is known about Ramshackle, Yuu and Grim get the option to do a paper about NRC's history instead. They take it because NRC's gotta have better history than Ramshackle. Yuu continues cleaning out the dorm and stumbles across a hidden panel in the floor, they lift it up and see a very old box covered in webs and dust. They take it out and open it, surprised to see some very old paper Madols and some coins along with a journal.
Yuu calls over Azul to help with identify the year the coins were made and calls over Jamil and Kalim cause the writing in the journal is in their native language. Kalim and Jamil translate it, noting that it's in an outdated version of the language, while Azul says the coins are from many years ago. Yuu ends up finding more hidden panels in the floor, all filled with: various journals, money, pictures, and letters. They end up inviting the other named dorm members for help cause the journals are all in various mother languages.
It ends with Yuu finding a basement in Ramshackle and travels down it to see... a scorched covered room with broken cauldron pieces and... dried blood.
What happened at Ramshackle?
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meiusoo-twistedtwst · 1 year ago
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Do you think Silver’s gonna get the smallest character design change ever aft. Chapter 7😭😭
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I mean they let Ortho change soo🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️
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hanafubukki · 1 year ago
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I keep thinking about this and how Diasomnia and Heartslabyul are entwined with Ramshackle dorm.
Putting aside the whole dream related UM connections with diasomnia and of course how everything started with heartslabyul, the friends the prefect made along the way, and so on.
I keep thinking about the time related correlation between the two.
The white rabbit, who is always scared of being late. We had an event this year with Deuce and the white rabbit.
Maleficient who is always not invited or in this case Malleus who is either not invited or very late, to the point of being hours early because he doesn’t want to miss it.
How in the prologue, we hear, “before it’s too late”
There has to be a reason why these three are both the beginning and yet the end, and how they are related to time and “not being late/too late”
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rayroseu · 1 year ago
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This analysis of Meleanor's aesthetic and form being an inspiration to a lot of NRC's architecture and embellishments is so 💖💞💖💞❤️❤️💞💞‼️‼️‼️ Meleanor is going to overtake this god-forsaken school at last ‼️‼️‼️🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻✨✨✨ AS SHE SHOULD 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻💞
But all these references is just making me think that if this is intentional,,, then isn't Meleanor *alike* with Mickey with how they "appear" as an figurative icon in TWST/NRC's design?
Like, we know that 'Mickey's Shadow' appears in a vast amount of cards and bg images in-game, just like how this theory states that Meleanor's motifs resembles NRC's designs.
There's this masterlist of all the hidden Mickeys in-game (I personally think there's a lot more and we still haven't noticed because they're conveniently disguised lol)
I think this theory stands though, because Meleanor can be a parallel to Mickey's.
If she's actually the Dark Mirror (at least in essence), then both her and Mickey are "beings inside a mirror."
They can also be a good contrast to each other... Maleficent (or Meleanor in this case) being the frequent Leader of all Disney Villains and ofc how Mickey is always the hero in each Disney franchise.
Also both their locations have direct parallels to some of NRC's location.
Yuu's Ramshackle Room > The Room in Mickey's Dream
NRC Coliseum Backstage > Eastern Fortress of Briar Land
Diasomnia Hallway > Meleanor's Castle Hallway
In reference to my theory that Grim and Meleanor might be related to each other , I think its nice to mention how Mickey never appears in the presence of Grim (who might be related to Meleanor in some way).
Like Grim has to be far away or deeply asleep in order for Mickey to reflect in the mirror. And, the farther Grim goes away from Yuu, the more vivid Mickey's mirror gets.
Which makes me think that 'condition' occurs because Grim is related to Meleanor/the Dark Mirror. And ofc, Mickey "can't be reflected" because there's already a Magic Mirror here, the Dark Mirror with Meleanor(which can be related to Grim) encased inside it.
Tldr: Meleanor and Mickey are parallels of each other because of their reoccurring "presence" in NRC's design.
Tbh, them being parallels is so funny though... Does this mean Mickey will have to fight against Meleanor?? lol 😂 There is this whole undertone of Heroes vs Villains in TWST's narrative...
Mickey's "presence'' is more prevalent because his silhouette appears in locations outside of NRC which can be a nod at the fact that Heroes (like RSA) are stronger than Villains like Meleanor whose silhouettes only appear in NRC.
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a-twisted-wallflower · 2 years ago
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Speaking of found family dynamics in Diasomnia, what about ramshackle?
The theory that the monster we fought in the beginning of game is actually Grim makes me really sad.
After all, Yuu has been the closest thing to family for him. He has no memory of his origins or even of his species. Yuu is the only reason he can attend NRC (Both being half of a student). Yuu went through hell just to get him back during chapter 6.
" If Yuu leaves... I'll be alone in ramshackle dorm."- Grim in chapter 7 part 1.
Just as Malleus is about to loose Lilia, Grim is also going loose us if we decide to leave.
Maybe that's why our first ob fight with the monster seems to take place in a demolished mirror chamber.
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raven-at-the-writing-desk · 8 months ago
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Re: the previous anon asking about ramshackle, my personal hc is that it used to be the staff's dorm (I could be completely wrong, I haven't read the early books in a while). Then, when Crowley took over from the previous headmaster, he didn't hire any new staff and instead let the non-teaching current staff retire/quit/otherwise leave their positions and then employed ghosts (since they don't really need a place to "live" (ba dum tss)), and left Ramshackle to fall into disrepair. Whether or not these ghosts were the old staff or were just looking for jobs is up in the air (and also opens a whole can of worms about ghost economics, but I'm not willing to get into that here) For some reason he still hires living teachers and Sam, but I'm not sure if we ever get any details on where they live during the school year.
[Referencing this post!]
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I went back into the prologue to check! The dialogue seems to suggest that Ramshackle used to house students. The Ramshackle Ghosts mention that people used to live there, then Crowley tells us "the ghosts scared away all the students." (Note that Crowley does not say “the ghosts scared away all the students AND staff.”) Thinking about it, staff lived at Ramshackle, well... it might be a little strange to have students visit them at their living quarters instead of in the classroom or their offices if they need academic assistance. Most likely Ramshackle served a similar function as the other dorms: student housing.
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As for where staff stay… There was one line dropped by Crowley in the second Halloween event which implies the (current) staff may live off campus. I talked about it in this post!
We’re not sure exactly how long Crowley has been headmaster for or when Ramshackle exactly fell into ruin 🤔 I wonder if the main story (or extra materials/content) will cover that… We don’t even know if there was even a previous headmaster or if Crowley was just always the headmaster. From how he speaks (ie being salty at the 99 lose streak to RSA and honoring Lilia’s invite to NRC despite being hundreds of years later), it feels like Crowley has been in charge for a long ass time. It could be that he’s honoring his predecessor’s legacy or wishes, but he seems to personally be making the shots or reacting in a way that’s quite emotionally invested for someone who is newly taking up the mantle.
Mmmm, I wonder if it’s really as simple as Crowley letting the current staff go…? I’d imagine most can’t afford to quit their job or retire on the spot (unless he incentivized them to leave with a generous severance package). I do think employing ghosts in the place of living people to do odd jobs may be more cost effective though, seeing as ghosts have far fewer living expenses than the living. (No need for housing, food, most material possessions, etc.). Crowley could thus justify paying them less/j Although… This is also most likely an efficient way for the devs to reuse assets and not have to design unique characters or more mobs to fulfill the roles of odd job NPCs.
There is lore which states that ghosts are attracted to areas that are concentrated with magical energy, which may explain why NRC has so many ghosts lurking around. I wonder if Crowley just happened to notice all the ghosts lurking on campus (rather than actively seeking them out) and wanted to give them something fulfilling to do with their time, hence the jobs. (Do ghosts even have a need for employment or money when they don’t really have physical demands??? What would they even buy with their earnings, if they’re being compensated at all?) Some ghosts, like the ones that work in the cafeteria, seem to be brought in from the outside to serve more specific roles (ie as Master Chef/Culinary Crucibles instructors and cafeteria staff). The Ramshackle Ghosts though… I’m not sure about their origins?
So the Ramshackle Ghosts have taken up residence in the dormitory, but we don’t have much in the way of their history. It could be that they were random ghosts that migrated to NRC due to its magical draw?? Other unrelated ghosts seem to have been drawn to Ramshackle in the past (such as Eliza and her ghostly entourage in Ghost Marriage). Some have theorized the Ramshackle Ghosts are dead students, but the closest thing we get to proof of that is a line from book 2. One of the Ramshackle Ghosts says that he was a star magift/spelldrive player when he was alive—but this does not inherently imply he was a student, since the sport is very popular and widely played by mages, student or not.
There’s still so many mysteries wrapped up in Ramshackle… 🔍
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moonlightequin1 · 2 years ago
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looking through the glass….⚔️🪞
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