#tw: mentions of grooming

[loony-lupus]

"In chaos, everything is always changing, it's impossible to stay afloat forever. Trust me."

Art by @boggubozakatochnihmashinok ❤️

> She is a former cult leader. The only leader who is not dead.

> Like most creative people, she experiences mood swings and falls into deep melancholy depression, thinking that her "Father" will inevitably destroy Gotham.

> She has a whole host of emotions and feelings, draws inspiration from them, falls into melancholy and laziness, recharges in peace and quiet, loves to read books, really wants to be adored and have friends to hang out with (even though friendship won't stop her from social experiments on her friends and dragging them into a "story")

> Her song: They Might Be Giants - Kiss Me, Son Of God. There is a better song, but it is not in English.

> Her morality and that "host of emotions and feelings" aren't humanly typical though...

> For example, she was genuinely grieving the death of the former cult leader, who grew up before her eyes. Even though he was a psychopath who sacrificed people, slept with his sister, who had a daughter with him, and began to sexually harass his daughter when she grew up. But Annie groomed him in many ways as the FUTURE of their cult. At the same time, she saw him being murdered by his daughter, but she did not intervene anyway, since for her it was CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT of his daughter, and she does not stand in the way of the pure progress of a story.

> I think that she is precisely chaotic - she is capable of both good and evil, but everything depends on her mood and interests.

> "For a hero not to become a Mary Sue, he must suffer."

> She likes love stories the most.

> She can stay awake for days, lost in her fantasies. Sometimes she forgets to eat.

> Because of her non-human blood, she suffers from itch.

> She is older than she looks... but not ancient, haha.

> She usualy don't interferes with her "characters" behavior, allowing them to make their own choices, she only sometimes pushes them to action. She usualy accepts any outcome.

> She's not pure evil, but she's probably my most evil OC of them all (none of them are good).

> She calls her cultists "chickadees" and her fellow test subjects acquaintances and "characters" "children."

> She has a lively sense of humor. When asked in Arkham Asylum how she ended up in there, she would jokingly answer, "I stole candy from a child" or "I refused to ship a popular ship." During the uprisings, while everyone else was causing trouble and destroying everything in their path, she would most likely be painting moustaches on portraits rather than taking active action.

> The truth is, the real reason she was sent to Arkham is even more disturbing and I'm not sure if I should tell it, lol.

> She once convinced a girl to kill her abusive boyfriend by telling her: "When you're hanging over a cliff over a black, impenetrable abyss, and someone's foot is crushing your toes, instead of stabbing that foot with a knife, you desperately wait for the ground to suddenly rise up beneath you." But it was a long story though. So yeah, she sucks you in like a swamp and has a toxic, poisonous influence. This makes her quite dangerous even outside of acts of direct violence.

> I might change something about her later if she turns out to be too tough to handle for me, lol.

[lavenderauthor]

Title: Not What It Looks Like by LavenderAuthor (14.6k)

Rating: Teen and Up

Fandom: Marvel

Relationship: Peter Parker & Tony Stark, Avengers Team Members & Peter Parker, Avengers Team Members & Tony Stark, Pepper Potts/Tony Stark

Summary:  Tony Stark is known as many things: Genius, Inventor, Billionaire, Playboy, Philanthropist, Iron Man. Honestly, nobody doubted any of those even when he started to date Pepper Potts. He was not, however, known for tolerating or even liking kids.

It was just something that everyone seemed to know so imagine Steve Rogers's shock when he comes by Tony's lab with a list of equipment they needed upgraded to find what looked like a teenager in his lab. Even more shocking was the teen chattering away to Tony himself.

[charlie-artlie]

this is so stupid i’m sorry

[a-heart-of-kyber]

*slaps table*

Listen!

There is something super sweet and healing and hopeful about Gale, "I was groomed and still don't realize it and had 'sex' with the Goddess of Magic via mental/spiritual/astral projection regularly. Also, I'm kind of addicted to magic." Deciding to approach you first to flirt with "You being all sweaty after battle is so fucking hot."

Because it's Real. It's physical. Yeah, it's horny, but it's the realization that the mortal realm can be equal to the godly one, if not superior, despite it being different. Like, he's not Losing something by not being with a God and he can heal.

[tables-has-vanished]

I find it funny that crowesfood, a child groomer/child groomer defender, really thinks that turning off comments can stop people from attacking them... anyone know how to use 4chan.... just a little thought.

[ghxst-system]

"The future is plural" movement from endos is CONCERNING

regardless of the fact they do not believe you require trauma to be a system (medically impossible) this proves they want to groom kids into identifying as endo and spread their medical misinformation further.

as well as causing real systems to believe they dont have it bad enough to be "traumagenic" (the only "genic you can be. this language is bullshit im just using these terms to explain their shit), preventing them from getting real help. they are WIDELY anti-recovery.

their misinformation has ALREADY endangered real systems medically as they have made professionals skeptical of a medically proven disorder, a disorder that is already very stigmatised.

outside of just endogenic misinformation, this statement leads to the idea that they want to traumatise kids to make more systems.

ENDOS ARE FUCKING DANGEROUS

[to-coyly-go]

Animator SAD-ist, best known for her DSMP animations such as Hog Hunt, and their admin JayGrahamsNS, have been involved in exposing minors to NSFW content for over 3 years. This was brought to people's attention by former admin zennip.ede, who was directly affected, and admin Skye.

Edit 30 Nov 2024: SAD-ist and JayGrahamNS have also made a response.

Zen's Google Doc:

Zen's tweet:

Google Drive containing all screenshots from the Google Doc:

Moderator Checkers has also decided to come forward with their story.

Checkers' Google Doc:

Checkers' tweet:

[lichenbug]

they drink together often

[shentheauthor]

PSA for kids on the internet:

I know a lot of y’all look at nsfw content. It’s not good to be in those spaces (because you’re intruding on adult spaces made for adults, by adults, and it’s uncomfortable), but that’s just how kids are sometimes (source: I did that as a kid). It’s inevitable.

The thing is, you should NOT be talking to adults about it. If you break the clear 18+ boundaries people set, that’s YOUR business, and you should NEVER be comfortable discussing sexual topics with adults. I’m being so serious.

It’s never, ever your fault if you’re groomed. The thing is, gross adults will take advantage of you if you make it clear that you are a minor exploring nsfw topics. They see that, and they think you’re an easy target.

As for adults who are uncomfortable with kids seeing their nsfw work, the best we can do is block ageless accounts and minors who announce that they are minors. That’s not enough. You need to keep yourself safe as much as we need to keep you safe.

I care about this stuff a lot. I narrowly dodged a lot of horrible experiences, and it still took me years to deconstruct the harmful things I started internalizing because I was unrestricted on the internet. I got lucky. I can’t say the same for a lot of other people.

Statistically, you will not get lucky if you are a child on the internet. Stay safe.

Also, grooming isn’t strictly for pedophiles. Grooming is when people foster an environment where a vulnerable party (ie children) gets comfortable with an inappropriate relationship. The exploitation doesn’t have to be sexual. It can be an ego thing, or for money, or any number of things. It’s hard to accept that the person you care about is a groomer, and it’s even harder when people fundamentally misunderstand the definition of grooming.

A child can groom another child. An adult can groom another adult. It’s about exploitation, not necessarily age.

Stay safe out there, guys. They don’t teach internet safety like they used to.

[begaydocrimebutnotlikethat]

antis and ex-rqs: the radqueer community is a toxic cult!! they're disgusting and gr00m people into being pa3doph1les!!

most rqs: i saw a silly bug today it reminded me of my favorite character

[feelingemotjons]

STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS RICH ASSHOLES

STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS LOUD AND "ANNOYING"

STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS GROOMERS/PEDOPHILES

STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS STALKERS/CREEPS

STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS "DISGUSTING" AND "UNLOVEABLE"

STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS "ANNOYING" THIRDWHEELS

STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS BIGOTS

STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS SELFISH AND RUDE

STOP DEPICTING CONFIDENT FAT PEOPLE AS "PICK MES" OR "WEIRDOS"

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP MAKING YOUR FAT CHARACTERS LOSE WEIGHT FOR THEM TO HAVE A "HAPPY ENDING"

[tetric-electric]

tbh I think that the way Ashley Graves is so mischaracterized by the fandom says a lot about how people view grooming (or any type of manipulation) survivors (and autistic people). Let me explain:

Obviously, huge spoilers for Chapters 1 and 2 of The Coffin of Andy and Leyley. This is just a psychoanalysis of Ashley, however to do so involves a LOT of lore.

To start off, I'm just gonna put a trigger warning right here for LOTS of talk about psychological manipulation, as well as neglect and ableism. If you feel uncomfortable reading about these subjects you are more than welcome to click off. Please stay safe.

What made me decide to do this rant:

A few months ago, I got a text from someone who was upset about me having Ashley as my PFP. I was initially like "okay, they don't like TCOAAL, so what", and then immediately after I got a text from them responding to an Instagram story I had basically saying that Ashley was "so me fr fr".

"Let me guess, you also kin Valentino"

Valentino, from Hazbin Hotel, as in the blatant physically + verbally + sexually abusive piece of shit who is in no way redeemable.

I had brushed this off as "maybe they just don't like Ashley", until they listed why.

...all of the reasons they gave fell under the main categories of "she's clingy, she's flirtatious with Andrew, and her sprites are made for the male gaze."

The male gaze thing was because she didn't appear to be wearing a bra. Which like... sexualizing much? For fuck's sake, she's locked in an apartment about to die, do you think wearing a bra would be a priority?

Secondly, her behaviour.

Admittedly, she's not a great person. But that's because she never learnt how to be.

In-game there is so so so SO much emphasis on how she acts childish, and how literally no one gives two shits about her. It doesn't take a professional psychologist to figure out that she never was able to develop properly. That's why she's so clingy, because Andrew is the one person who at least pretends to care about her. And then there's her flirtatiousness.

It's revealed in several flashbacks that the only way she could ever get Andrew's attention is to do something fucked up, as seen by her as a child killing Nina. Andrew then gives her attention for this, which establishes the connection that homicide -> attention, and attention = care and love and affection.

Due to the fact that she never had any friends, she never was able to have any type of love (whether that be platonic, romantic, etc.) reciprocated. Except for Andrew.

Andrew, throughout the game, proceeds to subtly encourage Ashley's flirtatiousness. She has no reference of this type of stuff not being okay, and thus her social isolation made her the perfect target.

Social isolation, gaslighting, coercion, threatening to hurt the person if they don't do the desired behaviour. You know what those are?

Textbook signs of manipulation.

I realized that people hate Ashley so much because since she's not aware of her situation being bad, she's unable to come to that realization. She's not perfect, let alone a 'good victim'. She only sexualizes herself because that's how she learned she can get affection and care.

So... where does the whole "Ashley is autistic" theory come from, then?

As stated by Renee Graves, Ashley was "a lot of work" as compared to Andrew (guess what, kids take work). Now, this alone wouldn't be any indicator. However...

It's shown that she was unable to make friends because she was "weird" and clearly didn't have an understanding of social cues and rules (which honestly hit close to home for me). It's also shown that she problem-solves differently (or at least differently than Andrew, who is seen as the "logical sane one") and also seems to be more of a hands-on learner (I forget if there's any actual proof of this, however upon analysis she is an ESFP, and ESFPs tend to be more hands-on (yes I'm aware that MBTI types are the psychology equivalent of horoscopes, but there is some truth to them)).

Not to mention how she's shown to have extreme emotions, and tends to have meltdowns (I apologize if this isn't the right word, I'm not sure what the term would be). The extreme emotions part can be part of how blatantly of a pwBPD she is, but BPD also tends to have a higher frequency of showing up in autistic people, especially autistic women.

In conclusion, people hate Ashley Graves because of how well-integrated ableism is in society, as well as the concept of a 'perfect victim'.

**Revision (30/12/2024): While I don't think Andrew is a full-on groomer, I do think that he was manipulative towards Ashley. I changed the wording to be more clear of that. Sorry for the confusion, everyone!

[pastelalleycat]

If allegations of sexual assault come out against somebody:

I don't care if the person seems nice. I don't care if you have a personal bond with them. I don't care if it's something you never thought they'd ever do.

These kinds of allegations always, always, always have to be taken seriously and with the utmost regard for the alleged victim's safety. It's possible that the supposed assaulter may have been falsely accused, but sadly, most of the time, reports of SA are true.

I need you to promise me that you will believe victims when they tell you they've been abused. I need you to use your critical thinking and realize that human beings are capable of causing as much harm as they are of causing good. Please don't turn a blind eye to victims.

[profic-ient]

"You're reliving your trauma by shipping this!" Idk dude, i think two hot anime guys are not at all similar to my ugly decaying groomer 🤷

[ciderjacks]

The SA metaphors in dunmeshi make me sick because when I think about them for so long it's like... man maybe I relate to Marcille more than I thought, she counts as SA rep to me.

Because during the dungeon lord meeting, seeing all those people talk about how they loved the demon after everything it did, and having Marcille being like "man and all I lost was my desire to braid my hair..." Like Honey, Darling, you shouldn't have lost anything at all. I relate to that mindset so heavily, because I was like that at one point. Sorry if this is a bit much I just wanted to give my two cents

OUGH YEAH. Like especially with how the demon grooming her wasn’t even really allegorical it was just straight up doing that, and it was doing that with the eventual goal of eating her alive… (which is shown to be very much an allegory for SA)

[ikamigami]

I am not a groomer

This post is in response to the terrible accusations @Alexandraisyes has made against me. Any criticism or evidence you see, that can be used to support or agree to Alex, anyone can freely say below or send me an ask, I am willing to answer and refute anything provided.

These are the three main points I want to discuss and cover in my post:

1. Evidence against Alex's accusations that I am a groomer.

2. Explaining why I am still friends with Mothy, the one everyone is calling a child groomer.

3. An announcement that I will do everything I can to take this matter to court if I am not given a satisfactory explanation and apology. The bottom line is that I demand removal of my name and any mentions of me in the doc made by Alex. Pedophilia is the worst and most terrible crime one can commit to another human being. I’ve been carelessly and thoughtlessly accused of this crime with no proof. Someone actually has the audacity to accuse me of harming another in such a disgusting way despite me being, very close, friends with people who have been sexually abused.

Here's a link to the document:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1geLNDVU5YU3PZtpbG5ZfYLHoTkMTx0ab_sh3Lqgh0P4/edit?usp=drivesdk

I got permission from Mothy to post information about them and screenshots from them. I also got permission from the other friend mentioned here but I'm not sharing their name by their request. Rest of the informations and screenshots are public.