#tw nonbinaryphobia

[queerasf4ck]

What really bothers me about the whole mspec gay and mspec lesbian debate is how quickly everyone forgets about nonbinary people because it becomes inconvenient to include us in it. Every single argument I see against it is a binary argument that claims lesbians and gays can’t be attracted to multiple genders, and everyone just conveniently forgets about nonbinary people because they immediately assume the multiple genders being talked about are binary ones. Being mspec means you’re attracted to multiple genders. It is incredibly telling when you say you hate mspec gays and lesbians and then say that lesbians and gays can be attracted to nonbinary people. I mean, you're really showing your whole ass. Either the labels lesbian and gay can be inclusive of mspec and nonbinary people, or they aren’t inclusive of either, but stop pretending nonbinary people don’t exist just because they’re inconvenient to your argument. It’s incredibly telling about how you really see us.

[gaymingbinosaur]

Okay I thought as someone who is demi aro, demi girl and girl flux this didn’t need to be stated but if you have an issue with micro identities fuck off.   I am not going to even try to be polite about it.  I am literally bisexual I don’t need to make up an identity to be lgBtq.   So heads up this blog is going to be stop talking about fan stuff for a bit.  Because I’m hurt and apparently me having too much complicated feelings about my microidenties so I never post my thoughts on it means that I someone who is nonbinary is okay hearing about I identify that way because I feel guilty for being cis.   

[dddemigirl]

When someone like this reblogs one of your posts 😬🙄

[dolphingal]

Just listening to crywark while sad

[wiresandwifi]

// this is a vent about someone being an asshole about bloodhound. //

I don’t even know why I even fuckin try to talk to nbphobes in the apex community

This fucker is trying to tell me that bloodhound’s gender “isn’t set in stone” and that the only reason anyone calls them nonbinary is because Allegra said that they were

They keep referring to Bloodhound as a he

They insist that because bh’s gender isn’t listed in their profile means that it’s just non-specified, not nonbinary (even though NONE OF THE LEGENDS HAVE THEIR GENDER LISTED)

They keep blaming the LGBTQ+ community(????????) for popularising the idea that Bh is nonbinary

Feels bad, man. At first I just assumed they didn’t know any better because I’ll admit, before I read any lore about bloodhound, I assumed that they were I a guy. This fucker is ADAMANT that Bh isn’t nonbinary, saying it’s just an identity not an actual gender(???) and my nonbinary ass is just there like :-) yeah ok

[kalimofscarabia]

someone asked me earlier if i was a girl or a boy and i said ‘oh im non binary’ and they said ‘yeah but whats your real gender’ and i bluescreened for a solid few seconds before going ‘i,, dont have one?’ and im still reeling

it was over the internet do not worry im not going outside

[princethey]

When you tell gender diverse people that they are the reason transphobia exists or is worsening then youre literally victim blaming and are being transphobic.

[queerasf4ck]

Honestly, I think the whole "I’ll date nonbinary people but only if they’re sapphic" thing is almost always a transphobic attempt to either push nonbinary people into a new binary, alienate unaligned nonbinary people, or an excuse to misgender or treat nonbinary people as women lite. I used to use the term sapphic when I started identifying as nonbinary because I was afraid that if I didn't, I would be seen as to confusing and therefore less desirable. During that time, I was constantly misgendered or had people assume I was ok with feminine terms that caused me dysphoria, especially when they were flirting with me. When I stopped using the term sapphic, the people who interacted with me completely changed. I used to have a lot of lesbians interact with me and that stopped almost completely. I was almost immediately alienated from any communities relating to my sexuality even the ones claiming to be inclusive of nonbinary people. But the thing is nothing about me changed; only the label I was using did. I didn’t become more or less nonbinary, and my gender didn’t change because I wasn’t using the term sapphic. I was still nonbinary. The point is I have never seen someone who says they will only date nonbinary people if they’re sapphic not treat the term sapphic like a gender (and typically as the gender women lite). I’m just very tired of people creating new binaries to shove nonbinary people into to make themselves feel more comfortable.

[pibsboots]

Hi I’m Super Pissed Right Now

Ex. Okay so because I hate myself, I was watching the hour-long video of “There Are Only 2 Genders - Change My Mind,” (I don’t wanna give this guy a promo, but you all know who he is, and the link is necessary so) and goddamn I am ready to pick a fight with a goddamn conservative white cishet male. Like any of them that come into my line of sight might get strangled. Anyway, that wasn’t why I showed up.

I showed up to talk about the tactics this man is using to win these arguments. So first, a white cis boy sits down to talk with him, and bless his heart, he tried so hard. He tried so damn hard to change this bigot’s mind, and it was honestly kind of cute. But, there were a few problems. Unlike many queers, this dude, doesn’t spend his time trying to justify other people’s existence. He couldn’t deny it when Stev*n Crowd*r (I’m literally going to bleep his name bc I reFUSE to have this end up in a conservative search. I’m sure it will anyway, but I will do my damnedest to piss them all off) said shit like “the idea of more than 2 genders is modern,” or “someone’s biological gender (a/n: UGH) can never be changed. Never.” Now, I don’t want to hate on this poor dude, Thomas. I don’t expect him to know the ins and outs of the queer movement and its history. What pisses me off, however, is the argumentative traps Stev*n led him into. These included: 

“If I say I identify as a bobcat, would you respect that?” Thomas inevitably said yes, because he didn’t have a good reason to say no. He backed him into a corner by asking questions that are FUCKING ABSURD, and you genuinely have to spend Time thinking about, because they flabbergast you so much.

Interrupting Thomas at 7:40 to notify him that, and I quote, “I got a nice, big penis there,” to stroke his own ego, and as some sort of shitty intimidation tactic.

He throws out names and dates to sound like he knows what he’s talking about. Ex. 4:51 “The deal was until 1948 with, you know, Simone de Beauvoir, and Judith Butler, gender and sex were interchangeable.” It’d be foolish of me to deny that his main point was true, but I would like to take this moment to point out the fact that Judith Butler wasn’t even BORN until 1956. I get that you want to sound like you researched this, but just because you throw out a year that’s close to the publishing of The Second Sex by Simone de Beauvoir and add a couple feminist names, it doesn’t make you educated on the topic. You’re still using others’ lack of knowledge as an opportunity to exploit, instead of teach. Honestly, please fucking stop.

Onto Victim #2: This lovely person’s name was Madison. They were a cool non-binary babe, and the co-president of the campus LGBT organization (this took place on a college campus, I’m not sure which, though, because ya boy Stev*n is too much of a pussy to say)

Instead of the general prey-on-the-ignorant approach he used with Thomas, here he used poke-the-bear tactics. His general goal was to piss Madison off until they couldn’t form coherent, intellectual thought.

Specifically:

He cut them off constantly. I can’t even begin to put specific examples, it’ll triple the length of this seemingly infinite posts.

My favorite time though, was in their opening argument. They began by explaining the difference between sex and gender, and went on to further define gender. Before they could finish, though, here comes Stev*n barging in and mansplaining. He tells Madison that they’re going too fast; “this is a lot to unpack, so let’s break it down.” Then Madison further speaks about intersex people. Crowd*r cuts them off. “These “intersex” people often have very recognizable features, such as an enlarged clitoris, or a micropenis. Still, they make up like, 0.08% of the population.” Crowd*r makes some stupid-ass argument, in the most condescending manner I think I’ve ever heard, about how anatomy teaches people humans have 10 fingers, even though they sometimes have 11. Then he says, “So I think what we need to do, is write off this extreme case, like we would with extra fingers and toes.” exCUSE ME, WHAT??? That’s saying, “Oh, I’m sorry, there are only about 4 million of you, so you don’t really count. Bye-bye!!”

Like he did with the last guy, he repeats himself over and over, until he can get in a rebuttal that he feels is adequate. He likes to do this about Madison’s pronouns a lot, in specifics. 

He’s also super worried about the number of genders?? Like I get that you like your two checkboxes on the Census, but buddy, go look at the race section. There’s this lovely little part that says “Other: Write in Here.” It’s really great for genders too!!

He likes saying stuff without evidence: aka - society needs parameters to function within, and without a defined number of genders, we can’t do that!!

He also likes tearing others to pieces when they do that - even when they have evidence. Ex. “There are more than 2 sexes.” “Yeah but only 4 million people go in that category, so they don’t count.”

I can’t physically make myself watch the 3rd I’m so mad I might come back to this later but holy fuck I’m pissed

[falseh0od]

Someone on AO3 told me I slipped up with Logan’s pronouns in this fic, and upon reading through it again I noticed SEVERAL slipups I missed while editing it 😬😣

However today that has been remedied, and I have meticulously combed through this story to pick out every mistake pronoun-wise I could find and fix it! I even referred to VIRGIL once with they/them pronouns which I found a bit weird 🤔

NONETHELESS I am still human so if you notice any pronoun mishaps I missed please inform me so I can edit and fix it!!!

Still Standing

wHaT? Me, writing MORE Sanders Sides fanfiction? It’s more likely than you think.

Description: Logan’s supposed to be the smartest side, but there were still things Logan didn’t know, and that stressed Logan out. Especially when it came to one specific topic. One little thing. Was there something wrong with them?

Warnings: unsympathetic Deceit, unsympathetic Remus, transphobia, nonbinaryphobia, nbphobia, purposely outing someone, purposely misgendering someone, a little bit of violence (not sure it should even be called that, Roman just pins Remus to a wall and threatens him with his sword to Remus’s neck), a very slightly sexual remark (in regards to Remus, it’s nothing terrible), panic attack, coming out, hurt/comfort, ANGST, self-doubt, self-deprecation, distancing oneself from others

(yeah that was a lot)

Pairings: Analogical and Royality

AO3 Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/22659832

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[y2kavau]

Dadstrictor what was justice coming out as non-binary like?

Their coming out was...Interesting, to say the...least! It took me a while to get used to the pronouns, but...deep down, I knew...

they were still...my Sunshine!

R: I wasn’t...the MOST...accepting at first, but that may be because...of how...I was taught about pronouns....I feel horrible about my actions back then....and I’m not saying...that I should have...acted in such ways...but I soon got...better about it and went with They/Them and Justice instead of She/Her and Michelle. Honestly...though? They picked...out... a FAR Better...name than I...did!

[esinahkabanjo]

I feel like fucking shit.. My friend who doesnt know I’m agender sent me this(https://m.9gag.com/gag/aGjwoXZ?ref=android) and I’m like :’)))) hahaha yeah it’s funny (::

[guiltyidealist]

Literally look.

Like. Motherfucker

Literally changing arguments in different threads just to be a piece of shit to nonbinary people. "The hell is a demiboy, you can't be both masculine and nonbinary. well uhhh they didn't NEED to say they were nonbinary because it's implicit in the demiboy part because demiboys are nonbinary don't they know this!!!" Nickpicky and self-contradictory much???

To tell you the truth I don't think this person is nonbinary. I'm not even one to say this or go throwing accusations out about someone's gender. And yet. I suspect we're dealing with a cis man claiming they're nonbinary so that legitimately nonbinary people will listen when they say ~some~ nonbinary people are fake/invalid/harmful, trying to drive wedges.

Literally how you gonna be nonbinary and ceterophobic?

You really gonna get on your high horse and say your gender is ~more valid~ than someone else's? The real enemy doesn't give a shit, they think you're both delusional and are actively working to exterminate both of you while you preach that nonbinary people should do this or shouldn't do that-- the greatest trick the right ever pulled was convincing queer people that other queer people are the enemy.

[queerasf4ck]

If you think lesbians can be attracted to nonbinary and multigender people but can’t be mspec, you’re transphobic. It’s pretty simple.

[trans-advice]

Hey guys!

TW: Transphobia, Nonbinaryphobia

We usually try to keep negativity off of this blog, but this user is actively attacking non-binary people. She makes death threats and is all around a nasty person. her url: (kill-nbs). Do not engage with her, report and block her. She is a minor, and although that is not an excuse, do not threaten her.  BLOCK AND REPORT. 

-Dakota💙

[enbypanposi]

@paint-punk Unfortunately I dont think Id be comfortable with that. Most of the people I blocked I only found cause they were begging to be put on a different person's 'panphobe blocklist,' so I think it would just draw unecessary attention to myself and to this blog to essentially make another, which I would hate to see. Honestly one of my favorite things about this blog has been that its sidestepped most assholes pretty cleanly, which in turn prevents any of yall from being exposed to it. If you want to make sure youre blocking, heres how I do it:

always sort by recent

the most shitty people will be in the pan positivity tag, so if you only want the people most likely to attack you try there--be warned, they can get pretty violent and triggering there (i saw one the other day about running pan people over with their car....)

a lot of people call themselves proud panphobes so the panphobe tag or search is pretty fruitful

if you find a prolific blog thats saying panphobic stuff a lot, block the people in their notes or who engage with them and those panphobic posts

the battle axe bi tag or pan discourse or mspec discoure tag are good too, but i avoid those for the most part and just do the few above

Just spent a literal half hour blocking panphobes between classes even though I have an essay to write....exhausting