#tucute to be cis

[purpleflameb0i]

When I first heard the term "tucute" I was like "is. is that a thingy for too cute ???"

Truscums and transmeds calling us too cute :33

[your-local-timespace-explorer]

"tucute" as a term just confuses me, like "you're tucute" okay?? what do you expect me to do?? get uglier??"

[transfemme-shelterdog]

"trans women don't have the same privilege as cis people, because they are trans (true!)

":) yes obviously!"

trans men don't have the same privilege as cis people, because they are trans" (also true!)

">:( ummm ACKSHULLY..."

it all very blatantly just boils down to them not seeing us as "truly" trans. they think we're secretly misogynistic cis women trying to demonize womynhood (some might even call it a "psyop"...)

it's all just another example of tribalism, and a prime example of how an insecurity complex can lead to a superiority complex (ex. bi exclusion, aro/ace exclusion, transmedicalism*...). They create a strawman enemy then demonize ANYONE who even remotely reminds them of said Enemy. because being enraged and exclusionary is easier and much more fun than actually putting in work to uplift underprivileged populations.

they go out of their way to halt progress or change, in fact, as they want to maintain this timeline wherein they are permitted to bully and harass people they deem lesser than themselves. because they WANT to be angry bullies, they enjoy that sense of superiority. they don't care about abolishing any systems; "radical" my ass, radfems are reactionaries to the core.

*also no one gonna discuss that transmedicalism/truscum ideology PRIMARILY targets trans people AFAB and intersex people (particularly during that massive "exposing tucutes" era on tumblr) or are we just gonna rewrite history again and pretend that isn't true...

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[arcsin27]

Is that really saying going to the mall makes you a woman?

I’m a man. I love the mall. Newsflash: men can be feminine and women can be masculine. What in the Victorian era am I looking at???

“Gender” quizzes

I took some lately after seeing a fucked up post about someone using those as “proof” they might be “transgender” or whatever.

One of the most alarming things I immediately noticed is how they focused on not being “traditional” and using stereotypes to determine your “gender”.

And there’s some which aren’t even tests. Why is this bad? This is confirmation bias. Just asking whether one “feels” this or that isn’t self reflective since it’s possible for people to think that they feel this way due to influence. And it’s so easy to just press yes/ no and have the test spit out: You’re trans!!! Congrats!!!

What does “feel” even feel like without dysphoria if it isn’t just the gravitation towards certain gender roles?

Not only that, a lot of questions are all just stereotypical characteristics which hence makes it understandable why people feel frustration when they do not align with said characteristics. But it’s not being trans, that’s not how it works.

None of these tests actually asked you to question why you would want to change genders, which is IMO the most damn crucial thing of it all.

Heck, one test even legit said that gender = personality I wish I was kidding.

Gender quizzes are a key insight to the ideology of Transgenderism nowadays. And while people say I’m pulling shit out of my ass” and attacking “things that don’t exist”, this is literal proof.

[olderthannetfic]

I might be wrong but the male/female socialization thing is something that was stupid big in the early 2010's and was a blight on queer spaces. A lot of queer people started to build their understanding of queerness and transness around only the social aspect. You still see around some kinda version of it today: GNC cis people are trans because socially they don't present gender conforming. Trans people shouldn't want surgeries if they pass socially. If you're trans but have "completely transitioned" you're cis.

Don't fucking ask me, but I remember a bunch of blogs on tumblr and some youtubers who'd basically explain the society and socialization as the only thing that matters when being trans. Smth like "Being trans means you were socialized female but identify more with being male" or switched for trans women. It was technically about social dysphoria I guess. They just didn't wanna call it that. Problem was that this approach only looked at society, and how society views gender. Anything medically or not relating to society was kind waved away as a "you" problem.

During the big truescum and tucute wars of dumbshittery you'd have them try and make these hard lines between the medical and the social sides. Both of them basically dragging in any trans people who didn't take part in that school yard mud fight and demand people pick sides. No, neither side was a good guy in that fight, it was gross.

One big blow up around the "trans exists bc of society" was about telling trans people with bottom dysphoria that bottom dysphoria came from gendering their penis or vagina as male and female respectively. If society stopped vieweing penis as male and vagina as female bottom dysphoria wouldn't exist because it's a social construct. So if you're a trans woman it's a "feminine penis" and a "masculine vagina" for trans men, and then the dysphoria wouldn't exist.

Lemme just make it clear rn, if you're a trans person with NO bottom dysphoria, that doesn't invalidate your gender. This is specifically about the people who told trans people WITH bottom dysphoria that their dysphoria is invalid or only a social construct.

I think it was an attempt to completely remove being trans from dysphoria and the medical aspect because of the beef with the transmedicalists. It was like two toddlers beating the shit out of each other, but everyone else in town had to suffer.

Obviously if you go too far in the other direction you also fuck over the trans people who don't fit that mold and don't have social dysphoria. Eg: A GNC transman who wants all the surgeries and hormones, but likes expressing in a feminine manner.

Other factor was the demonizing of masculinity and "malesness" so it would specifically be pointed out how being "socialized male" was a bad thing and you have to grovel and repent from ever having had male privilege. This is also something you still constantly see just a bit rebranded, but I kinda think that's older than the 2010's bullshit. Hell the 2010 socialization bullshit's probably even older than the 2010's.

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[the-alarm-system]

The Comparison of Sysmedicalist and Transmedicalist: From a former Truscum.

The debate on the moral validity of the term “Sysmed” is repeatedly brought up within pro-endo and endo-neutral spaces. As a former Truscum, while I agree that the core of sysmedicalism and transmedicalism are not the same (dysphoria vs trauma), I feel that the arguments used to justify the projection of these beliefs are very similar to another. Transmeds and sysmeds are parallel in the use of fake claiming, black and white view of the science behind their arguments, and the idea that in order to be valid one must dislike their identity.

To begin with, the idea of sysmedicalism is on who is genuinely plural and who is not. Sysmedicalists are the gatekeepers of the system community; if you do not have trauma, you are immediately viewed as fake before you can defend yourself. If not fake, then sysmeds will be pushed that endos have trauma that they have repressed. This is an argument that can be seen through the disorders most anti-endos struggle with are inflicted in order to cope with past trauma. This is a standard view in the transmedicalist community in relation to gender dysphoria. If you are a non-dysphoric transsexual, you either are ignoring it or faking it. This is also an argument that can be understood: It’s very difficult to be transgender in an unaccepting society and an uncomfortable body, so repression may be done to cope. However, these arguments deny the fluidity of gender and plurality. They state that these things are intrinsic to struggle, and if you did not struggle then you are lying to yourself in one way or the other. It denies the liberation to label diverse experiences that do not fit in the perspective of these severely hurting people. In return, they use fake claims to express the insult they feel over the idea that someone is like them but not did not endure the same they did. Endogenics are not claiming to have a dissociative disorder, they are claiming plurality. Nondysphorics are not claiming to have gender dysphoria; they are claiming transgenderism. These things, again, are not exclusive to trauma or gender dysphoria. The term plural was made with the intent to self-identify and find liberation beyond the binary view of gatekeepers, as was the term transgender, which was made without medical transition in mind. Sysmeds and transmeds also argue that these “fakers” are taking up vital resources needed by those who are suffering. This is entirely unfair, as the reason these resources are limited is because of the lack of acceptance of both things, which the plural and transgender acceptance movements have opposed. “Trenders are taking surgeries they don’t need!” is matched against “Endos are taking DID specialist they don’t need!” and the only reason behind them is that it’s the only area they can find acceptance even if it’s inside strict spaces like needing gender dysphoria diagnosis and needed trauma. Truscum and Sysmeds have some responsibility for upholding these views on ourselves by pushing how plural and transgender experiences are completely disordered and only bring misery; obviously, seeing this come from them would cause cis and singlets to believe our so-called wrongness. Those who do not appeal to the painting of wrongness must be faking right? In my experience, and this is entirely on perspective, I was influenced to be anti-endo and anti-tucute by cringe culture that circled Fake DID videos and Transgender Cringe videos. Even while I was singlet, I denied my own plurality because I was afraid of being like those I saw in the videos. While I was truscum, I denied my genderqueerness because I didn’t want to prove these horrible transphobes right. I recognize now how often Anti-endos and truscums bring up cringe subreddits to back up their points, and it reminds me of my fear back then. In order to accept myself, I had to break free from the bars put up by society and those within the community. As always, this met with backlash, but I realized that either way, I would be despised for being who I was. Truscum and Anti endos put up this illusion that the people they hate are the reason for systems and trans people being even more stigmatized when in reality the oppressor is going to hate us all the same. Calling the ones who don’t fit in “fakes” is not going to make you “one of the good ones”, and the fact that both truscum and sysmeds are against acceptance movements is hypocritical in their stigma argument. 

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To continue, it’s often that sysmedicalist warp their argument to make it seem that endogenics are claiming to have DID without trauma. Their sources are almost always DID articles rather than articles of plurality which back up endogenic existence. Doctors who are in favor of endogenic existence are perceived as ignorant of dissociation and for the denial of resources to those in need. In science, it must be met with an open mind and the possibility for more. Research is constantly shifting and changing, and the medical paradigm is never stagnant. How does this compare to a transmedicalist however? The sources they use to justify their argument are just gender dysphoria articles that don’t include the full range of transgender people. The perspective they have is closed around sources with obvious limits when the proof against them is open minded and includes professionals they deem as liars. Personally, I never understood why they would both say how ableist the realm of psychology is towards systems yet use its strictness to hurt other systems.

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Furthermore, misery is at the core of both of these beliefs, and to which I understand these beliefs come from both fear, feelings of powerlessness, and self-loathing. To refute endogenics, anti endos bring up how miserable it is to be a system. They push their preference to be singlet and final fuse as a reason for why they are actually plural. This is familiar to transmedicalists; there is a video by Kalvin Garrah where he states that if he had the option to be a cisgender girl, he would do anything for it, as dysphoria is one of the highest forms of suffering. He argues that in order to be actually transgender, you would have to hate being trans. These feelings are valid to oneself yes, but they are projected onto endogenics and non-dysphorics as an answer to why they don’t exist. Plural and Transgender joy is rejected in these spaces because it goes against the guidelines they follow in order to be valid. If your entire existence is only because of disorder and pain, then if you’re happy in it, aren’t you as bad as the others? These are traumatized people who go after others in order to uplift themselves and appeal to singlets and cisgender people. These spaces have intersected because of how similar the arguments are(This is not to say that there isn’t an exclusionist issue within endo spaces, there definitely is, but what they are doing is just hypocrisy), and they constantly feed off gatekeeping to make themselves feel valid enough.

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In conclusion, truscum and sysmeds use fake claiming, closed-minded arguments, and projection of misery to debate why those who are unlike them are illegitimate. The medicalization of transgenderism and plurality compared to the push of acceptance is going to instead further the stigma. This essay was written to compare the two in the sense of their use of arguments, not to say that they are purely the exact same, even at the core. This essay is open to discussion as I would like to improve my writing for the future. The future is plural, which is why we fight.

[foxfairy06]

Hi, only wanted to ask about xenogenders: why do exclusionists think they aren't valid? Just curious

Thanks for this blog btw, one of my favs now :)

First off, let's talk about their history. They were coined by a cis, neurotypical woman who posed as a trans woman online. She basically insinuates that neurodivergent people can't understand what gender is. Which, yikes. Throughout the entire history of them, it's been said that it's "for neurodivergent people who have a hard time understanding social constructs like gender" (which I'll address later in this post), or "for neurodivergent people who have a hard time understanding their feelings, so they describe the way their gender feels like light and fluffy like a cloud, or angry and soft like an angry cat.". The problem with this, it infantiles neurodivergent people.

Which is fine when it's coming from someone who actually is speaking for themself. Neurodivergent people who experience something that does cause them to not be able to do something are allowed to convey that they can't do those things, and they are not infantilising anyone, and they are not putting neurodivergent people down. Having a disability is having a disability, it isn't good or bad, and it's wrong to act like someone with a disability can do anything. It's wrong to place expectations on disabled people they can't live up to, and when a disabled person can't do something, don't act like they're making a biased judgement about disabled people because they aren't. I can't just stop ticking, and my tics extend to affect more of my life than just my tics. My ADHD "infantiles" me in some ways, and there is nothing wrong with that, and don't expect me to be able to exist in the same way as a neurotypical person.

HOWEVER, the majority of people who label themselves with xenogenders are neurotypical or self diagnosed. They do not have the ability to speak on neurodivergence correctly. They just don't. They don't have the tools. They don't have the experiences. They don't have the time in therapy. They don't have the education. They are using neurodivergents as a scapegoat and in the process insisting that there is something so fundamental that we simply cannot understand. They are speaking for us, and have created false information about a group they can't speak for.

Now for the science.

Gender isn't a social construct. At least not in any way that is compatible with the concept of xenogenders.

• Gender in the terms of *gender studies* which was formed in the soft science of *sociology*, describes the expectations, performances, and roles associated with being a male, and a female. In this theory, a social man is someone who is masculine and a social woman is someone who is feminine. In this theory, these are learned behaviors enforced by society. Men are masculine, they're strong. They hunt, they have no feelings other than anger. Women are caring and nice and they cross their legs when they sit. Obviously this is not applicable to individuals. Because obviously most people don't fit into these definitions. This concept of social gender is useless for labeling an individual as a man or a woman. It's bunk. It's accurate for how society treats people though. Xenogenders do not have any socially ascribed behaviors, expectations, or roles. Therefore under the tucute definition of gender "gender is a social construct", aka gender theory, xenogenders are not genders. Some people could argue that "well my learned behaviors are light and fluffy like a cloud", that still doesn't mean that society perceives you as cloud-like or that your learned behaviors are similar to that of a cloud. It also doesn't have anything to do with the sexes, and therefore isn't compatible with this theory.

• Gender in terms of what we identify with is a different thing entirely, and is a neurological and psychological map of your sex characteristics. Someone who individually is a man identifies with a body that is entirely categorizable within male range, and someone that is a woman is someone with an identified body that is entirely categorizable within female range. Someone who is nonbinary, (nullsex or on the duosex spectrum), is someone who's identified body doesn't fit within those ranges. Gender is different from the "gender" represented in gender theory. This is because a man can look, act, sound, think, and express in the ways typically associated with women and still be a man. Even if he's trans. The social ascriptions to gender are meaningless, and gender itself is not. Xenogenders do not reflect any gender identity. They are not correspondent to an individuals understanding of their own body, and not equatable to transness or nonbinarism. They're a self-chosen label that bares no meaning. They represent nothing real.

Ultimately if someone wants to call themselves catgender, ok i guess I can't stop them and I'm not going to be a dick about it but I'm also not going to sit around and pretend like it holds any water or means anything.

[pussyandpetrichor]

The problem with responding to people getting mad at their short-sighted infighting getting called infighting is when you respond to it, you're participating in the infighting.

But, nevertheless: it was infighting when this website attacked ace people for years. It was infighting when the radfem movement tried to mobilize lesbians against transwomen. It was infighting when we had the truscum vs tucute arguments. It was infighting when folkd lost their shit about people calling themselves "bisexual lesbians". It was infighting when people shit on nonbinaries for having cringe pronouns.

It's been infighting the entire goddamned time. Tumblr discourse is just infighting. It's all infighting. And none of it makes anyone safer or happier. Including trans women creating a coalition of people who are not trans women to oppress us.

Trans mascs are not in league with christian fundamentalists, are not in league with cis het chasers are not in league with rad fems.

Stop attacking the other trans people near you just because you think they have it easier. You only think they have it easier because you are not living their experiences.

The way the transfeminist movement decided to relitigate trans masc discussions about their own experiences just to reinvent terms that trans mascs have already abandoned because they weren't helpful is an example.

The transfeminist tumblr/twitter/reddit movement is not helping people. It is not helping us.

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Edit:

This post was a response to someone I unfollowed who said "why do they only call it infighting when trans women do it 🤔". They don't only call it infighting when trans women do it. It's infighting all the way down. You hit the turtles and then keep on going through more infighting.

[r41nb0wk1tt13s]

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(they'll make their own posts with their emojis and their own identity master list eventually as well which I'll try to get them to link to that master list. It's not very efficient but it'll work lol)

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Pro Ship, Fic, dead dove, etc.

Obvs pro-queer lol, tucute (is that still a term or did I date myself)

I think DNIs and Do not use on IDs is stupid, I'm gonna use whatever labels I want for myself. Block me if you don't want me interacting lol.

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[abstractgirlobject]

The perceived divide between Traumagenic and Endogenic systems on this website reminds me quite a lot of the Tucute/Truscum discourse of old. I think the origin is the same. Being transgender or being plural are both states of being that go against the societal notion of normalcy. As such, many feel that the only way for them to be accepted by society is to have a buy-in in the form of a Diagnosis such as Gender Dysphoria, DID or OSDD. As always, there's this irrational fear that someone else is faking your condition for attention and that will remove the validity you've gained from getting a diagnosis. This isn't how identity works. All people, Cis and Trans, Plural and Singlet, create their identities as characters they play to help understand the world around them. The fact some people's identities are seen as questionable while others aren't due to some perceived wrongdoing is bigotry, plain and simple. No one needs a justification to be themselves. No one.

[sirenium]

I hate that there are still transmeds. Their whole ideology does nothing but hurt, and any self validation people get from this shit is very shallow and at the expense of EVERY trans person (including themselves!). I hate that there are still people who stand by such a damaging ideology, and I hate that it isn't all just a bunch of cis people. Because at its root, it's just transphobia, and trans transmeds are just transphobic. They are standing by transphobic cis people. It is a group that allows transphobic cis people to join; it gives cis transphobes an excuse to hate trans people.

I was one of many people who were hurt by this ideology. Even as I started to really identify with xenogenders, I was so worried about not being good enough as a trans person that I formed a middle ground where 'I think dysphoria is needed, but I don't police people's identities. I also think euphoria is a bigger indicator'. That was a message I sent to a server in the past. Even when I identified as 'tucute leaning' I still held on to the idea that dysphoria is at least somewhat needed to be transgender, and that isn't even the worst affect this shit has had on me.

trigger warning; Kalvin Garrah, suicide mention, t slur:

Around the time when Kalvin Garrah was big, I was starting to question my gender. I found one of his videos, and that ended up pushing me towards not realizing I was trans sooner. Luckily, though, I ended up coming out as nonbinary faster than I could've... it's just that I saw it as an alternative to being 'actually trans'. I fell back on nonbinary as a label to avoid the simple fact that I needed medical intervention for my 'nonexistent' dysphoria. As it turns out... my dysphoria was so bad, that it helped fuel my suicide attempt at 17. Regardless...

I have lingering biases towards 'tranny voice'; when first starting testosterone, I was afraid of ending up like Buck Angel for example, with his voice that didn't fit my idea of what would be a satisfactory transition outcome. I was horrified, and sometimes I still fight those thoughts as someone whose voice would be classified as 'tranny voice' as it is. Even as somebody who didn't really fall down the transmed hole, I still have struggled with views that are transmed-y. I still have scars.

I am very much someone who would have been targeted by people like Kalvin online as well, despite also being someone they would consider to be 'actually trans' in real life; online, I am the 'weird' queer, the one who uses neopronouns and is alterhuman and xenogender, whereas offline I am super stealth and dread the idea of being clocked as trans, have medically transitioned, have a 'normal' name, etc. Of course, the fact that I paint my nails would cancel all that out for some transmeds, I'm sure. It's funny too, the reason I started being more masculine is because I wasn't taken seriously, and started feeling like it's my fault because I wasn't 'putting enough effort' into things... a very transmed view.

I internalized what people said about nonbinary people, and that's what led to me thinking it was an alternative to being 'actually trans' and transitioning medically, something I surely didn't need because I 'wasn't dysphoric' in the way Kalvin, the 'actual trans person' described it, and I certainly didn't want to take resources from the real trans people. I watched people make fun of individuals who I saw myself in, and avoided acknowledging that I was really trans because of it. That's how transmedicalism harmed me.

And you know what, you don't need to have been personally harmed to see how bad transmedicalism is; take a moment to listen to trans people who have been harmed, look at how transmeds talk about being trans as something that is pure suffering and a mental illness. Listen to former transmeds who talk about how horrible transmed spaces were, and how much better they're doing now that they're in more inclusive spaces.

[lapdogchase]

(using past tense because i don't see this type of art/comic around much anymore, tho im sure they still exist. using "body image" as shorthand for all the other stuff bc character limit lol. also i wanted to use a more neutral(?) word for "tucute" but i couldn't remember what we called ourselves at the time/if there was another word lmao. but y'all know what i mean)

(if at the time they were helpful but in retrospect were harmful, vote for the "negatively" option)

examples of these under the cut if you don't know what i'm talking about. warning for misgendering, transphobic, possibly dysphoria inducing caricatures of trans men.

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(ID 1: art of a white feminine trans man. he has pink hair, is wearing makeup and a choker that says "boi," a flower in his hair, a shirt that says "kawaii," a pink skirt, and pink leggings with hearts on them. he has a large chest, a slim waist, and leg and armpit hair. he is surrounded by tumblr tags, mostly trans ones.)

(ID 2: a comic showing two white trans guys labelled "gnc trans guy" and "transtrender". the first has a short undercut with grown-out pink hair. he is wearing a pastel blue and pink shirt, grey shorts, and trans striped socks. his chest is flat and he is drawn with sharper features. the second has a slightly longer undercut and is wearing a tight pansexual pride crop top, a he/him pronoun pin, blue shorts, and rainbow socks. he has visible boobs, a slim waist, and is drawn with softer features. a list of what makes them either "really" trans or a "transtrender" according to the artist is next to each person.)

(ID 3: a comic showing two trans guys. one is titled "this is damian. damian is a trans man. he is an average looking brown man with short brown hair and facial hair. he has a sweater on and is wearing jeans. a speech bubble says "i just want to live my life like everyone else". the other person is titled "this is skye. skye wants to be a trans boy, but she's just a cis girl who needs to feel special." skye has a blue undercut and a pink clip in his hair. he is wearing a galaxy shirt and the straps of his binder are visible. he is wearing jeans. speech bubbles surrounding him read, "soft boy~," "space child! ❤️," "gender is a feeling," "you don't need to have dysphoria to be trans," "truscum don't interact," cisgender people are sooo boring!," and "I bought a binder so I'm a real trans boy!"

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[velvetvexations]

As an "afab enby", I have never felt like part of the trans community. Since I am "non-transitioning" outside of changing pronouns, to a large portion of the "community" im just a tucute transtrender theyfab cis woman whose doing this to just Be Special. Its super great knowing that by merit of Just Existing I am? Somehow? Taking "resources" (what resources?) Away from those who Really Need Them.

I am jaded, honestly, because as a teen back in 2014 I saw all the anti-nonbinary discourse and it sure is great to know that it never left and to a non-zero amount of people Im faking it and Obviously dont have any internal reasons for wanting to do this. I must not have ANY insight as to why I feel the way I do! Obviously I just want to be oppressed So Bad.

Nevermind the fact I know irl I can never come out to anyone about this because like, who would believe me? I look like a woman so even if I say I use they/them Obviously Im just going this for Attention and its a Phase ill grow out of despite id'ing as Agender for A While Now.

Idk, sorry. I have a lot of angry feelings towards a lot of tumblr discourse. Thanks for letting me throw this here.

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Surround yourself with the right people the best you can. They are out there.

[podplease]

It was clarifying to look back at the OP of Down With Cis and find out that they seem to be trans and just had an axe to grind with "tucutes."

[hoping-for-novelty]

Until we stop thinking it's important to identify the Bad demographics, we're going to be stuck in an endless cycle of I-swear-its-not-bigotry-this-time

Maybe the problem is asexuals, or TME trans people, or intersex people, or cis gays, or tucutes, or white women or atheists or...

[olderthannetfic]

I wonder if the socalled tucute communities had a terf invasion. In like 2014 or something, I made a post about how I that I thought insurance companies should be obliged to cover HRT, I got a bunch of tucutes in my ask box screaming about how that would somehow force people without dysphoria to go on HRT and ruin their lives, and I was a monster for suggesting it.

Thinking back, it was indistinguishable from the anti-trans rhetoric that says that trans healthcare being legal and accesible will somehow trick cis children out of their genders and force them to transition in ways they will regret.

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There were a bunch of different factions on both "sides" of that tiresome plague of harassment. Some of them could have been self-aware TERFs. My personal guess would be that there were more people who'd absorbed some of the ideas without thinking of themselves as that.