#tower of god phantaminum

[halloweenreaper]

Instead of working on what I’m supposed to, I wrote a short one off theory/”What if?” scenario for Tower of God of Arlene being Phantaminum’s real identity. If your interested, give it a read and tell me what you think.

[clyde-wy]

[waitingforsecretsouls]

One of the main reasons I believe that at least the top 4 ranking is a genuinely accurate reflection of overall strength (leaving all other potential arguments aside for a moment) is that imo SIU really tipped his hand with the in-universe rather flimsy reasons for making Phantaminum number one over Enryu if you compare their respective achievements and that the ranking administration office is not aware about the potential Axis thing. Enryu violated one of the highest principles of the Tower and helped devastate an entire floor, Phantaminum broke into Zahard's palace and killed some of his High Rankers (not that I don't gladly accept the indirect Zahard hype this is though....).

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[beelxshartic]

phanta the true irregular, because who else does this? No one! 25th babie isn’t doing strange shit enough but the case is pending

I don’t think any of us realize just how fucking funny what Phantaminum did is. Imagine you’re the king of some land and some crackhead breaks into your castle, kills all your soldiers, maybe does a Fortnite dance over their corpses and then peaces out never to be seen again.

[rainbow-undecimber]

I sure do love theorizing about Tower of God

[ramenrulz8p]

So I've been thinking a lot about Phantaminum being an Axis... since they can rewrite the laws of the world do you think Phantaminum is the reason that Bam / Jyu Viole Grace is alive?

(cross posting from twitter)

[fernhours]

why the tower was doomed from the start

Theory originally posted on Twitter!

To start with basic information: ToG is part of the Talse User Story universe, an universe SIU build under the premise that "the world comprises of several tales as its centre, and these tales persist as unchangeable records”

Hence, the TUS universe consists of several stories. ToG is currently the only story that is published, as SIU took his previous webtoons set in the TUS universe from the internet. People said he did so to prevent spoilers for ToG. Inside the TUS universe, the ones controlling their own stories as authors are called Axis Users. They are gods, in charge of their stories as they 'write' them. Phantaminum is an Axis. Apparently, they are not rare outside the tower.

So why do the residents of the tower do not know about Axes, thinking Enryu could defeat Phantaminum while in reality, an Axis User always wins? Because the purpose of the tower /is/ to create a new Axis User. An Axis might have created the tower for the first one to reach the top to become an Axis. It's called Tower of GOD after all. Another fact: Axes can't be born, they have their awakening, for instance after something very crucial/emotional happened to them.

Everything awaits you at the top because the one to reach it gains control over their 'story', can decide the future. It's very likely for Bam to become an Axis User (a literal irregular god). Speaking of Irregulars, they are the key. Because they are the only ones who can climb the tower since only they can take the Guardian's test on each floor and clear the floors that way. Regulars are kinda unnecessary since they can only climb thanks to Jahad.

IF the tower's purpose is to create an Axis User, it'll be useless after that goal is achieved. The story ends. It might dissolve, crumble down, whatever - it just won't exist anymore. Regulars were never meant to exist in the first place.

Jahad f*cked with the Axis User's goal, and guessing the tower is Phantaminum's story, it explains why he went after Jahad. Remember how Phantaminum didn't harm Yuri? Because she's essential to his story. Without her, Bam wouldn't have made it into the tower.

WHY did Jahad f*ck with the tower's purpose? Because he knew what'll happen once his group reaches the top, the 100th floor's Guardian told him. He didn't want that to happen and thus build a kingdom that should have brought piece and immortality. What he didn't take into consideration: Arlene and V. They wanted to continue climbing. Arlene wanted a vaster night sky and greater heights. A war started and ended with the death of Arlene and V's child.

Maybe Jahad even saw Bam reaching the top and awakening as an Axis User and killed him because of that. So it could be possible that Jahad wanted to protect the tower and his friends with his decision to stop climbing.

Headon also plays an interesting part. I assume he's there to make sure that one day, someone reaches the top and fulfills the tower's purpose. Jahad refused to do that. That's why Headon has connections to FUG (their goals are parallel to each other) and made a deal with Rachel leading to Bam ending up in FUG. The tower's purpose NEEDS to be fulfilled - the whole system and everything else is so f*cked up because it was never meant to exist. The tower opened its doors for Bam because of that.

One day, Bam will have to choose between his destiny and everything and everyone he cares about, though I think he won't know until Jahad will tell him that as he dies, leaving Bam with the decision.

[dil-a-to-ry]

Tower of God: House Party AU

Headcannons from the Tower of God Discord server

25th Baam: First time at a party, everyone expected him to be a lightweight but this boy can drink, all the girls lowkey (or highkey) want him, clueless, gets along with pretty much everyone except the one person he really wants

Anaak Zahard: Looks a lot younger than she actually is, very competitive at party games and easily better at them than everyone except Androssi

Androssi Zahard: Sober arguments with Anaak, drunk arguments with Anaak, gets a ton of male attention but is only interested in Baam

Evan Edrok: Carries Yuri home

Ha Yuri Zahard: Expected to be a heavy weight, but passes out after one sip

Hatz: Trains at the party, gets a lot of female attention but also completely oblivious, competitive beer pong with Anaak 

Hwa Ryun: The quiet bartender everyone spills their secrets to, has enough information to ruin lives by the time the night ends

Khun Aguero Agnis: Really isn’t that interested in the party but showed up for Baam, spends the whole night subtly steering Baam away from Rachel

Laure: Got dragged along to the party and immediately finds a quiet place to sleep, couples looking for an isolated place to hook up are very disappointed to find him asleep in the seemingly deserted parent’s bedroom 

Lero-ro: Damage control, either trying to subtly fix Hansung’s drinks before they get served or pulling Quant out of fights depending on whether he’s working on the night, actually bonds with a few people at the party

Parakewl: Talks to everyone, gets ignored, breaks a table and gets thrown out, was he even invited?

Quant: Drinks too much too fast, picks fights, passes out within the first 30 minutes

Rachel: Wasn’t actually invited but found a way in, spends the whole night avoiding Baam

Rak: COMPETITIVE, initiates all the arm wrestling contests, accepts every challenge for every party game, regrets talking down to Hansung when he gets served with the most disgusting drink but can’t back out of drinking it

Serena Rinnen: Actual life of the party, teaches everyone party games, this girl can drink, has a heart-to-heart with Shibisu, possibly leaves the party with Shibisu

Shibisu: Spends half his time teaching party games and the other half looking out for Anaak and Hatz, steps in to try to stop a fight and accidentally gets punched in the face

Yu Hansung: The other bartender, can make incredible drinks but prefers to troll people by serving terrible to mediocre concoctions, espresso martinis are the best you’ve ever tasted though

Webtoon only characters under the cut

Dowon: Got dragged along to the party and really doesn’t want to be there

Elpathion: Brings the party lights

Enryu: Two people swear they caught a glimpse of Enryu, but everyone else is like ‘Enryu who?’, second biggest mystery after Phantaminum

Garam: Spends the entire night avoiding Urek

Kallavan: Drinks for almost the entire night with zero change in facial expression or demeanour, people almost start to wonder if he’s simply immune to alcohol but then he drops sideways and passes out, wakes up with one hell of a hangover

Khun Eduan: Drinks wine all night, has slept with every girl at the party, everyone expects him to be slapped by at least 5 women but he somehow smoothes everything over, gets all the action Urek cries even more

Phantaminum: No response, not even a ‘read’, does this guy even exist? 

Po Bidau Gustang: Leaves your party invite on read, somehow still knows all the drama that happened and judges everyone silently

Prince: Brags the whole way to the party, has one drink, passes out

Urek Mazino: Tries to impress Garam with party games (he’s actually really good), the guys love him, hits on every girl but gets rejected every time, gets drunk and cries

White: Drinking contest with Kallavan, brags the entire time but passes out seconds before Kallavan, “two years ago there would have been zero competition”

Yeon Yihwa: Lowkey following Baam around but trying to be subtle about it, one of the first to throw up, accidentally(?) starts a fire later in the night that signals the end of the party

Zahard: Doesn’t get invited, acts like he couldn’t care less, actually cares a lot

[maritora]

TOWER OF GOD EPISODE 10 IS TERRIBLE AND HERE’S WHY

Okay, as a webtoon reader I’m so pissed of right now. What was that? I am going to point out every single thing that made me mad about this episode. This post is spoiler free, so anime only guys, feel free to read this!

Original manhwa material WAS SHORTENED TO MINIMUM. They cut a lot of relevant information that originally made us curious about the tower itself. Anime only don’t know about Phantaminum - a guy that entered Jahad’s palace and slaughtered more than half of Jahad’s High Rankers. OH WOW I’M SO MAD. A person that is ranked as first in the tower (even higher than the king) was cut off. Well, it WASN’T THAT IMPORTANT I GUESS.

RACHEL WAS ADDED TO MULTIPLE SCENES.  She WASN’T PRESENT during position evaluation. Moreover, Hansung and Bam went alone to the administrator, not with her. They cut off beautiful  dialogue between them too. 

They skipped the part, when Hansung called Rachel ugly too, because why not?

Another one. This sentence from Hansung made me so hyped up for upcoming events. Well, it was also cut, because why not?

It was the same with Maria, Khun and Bam. This whole scene was shortened and to be honest it really doesn’t make the same impact as in manhwa. Seriously, why?

They also cut these hilarious panels:

AND DONT FORGET WE WERE ROBBED OF LERO RO AND QUANT CHESTS:

We were also robbed of our Sleeping Beauty Hansung Yu: 

Seriously I think like I’m about to vomit when I look at this. I won’t spoiler anything but really, who thought that it was good idea to add conversation like this? IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE ROMANTIC FEELINGS FOR EACH OTHER THAT’S DISGUSTING. IT IS NOT IN CANON.

Another drawback of this episode is conversation between Khun and Lero ro. In the anime it doesn’t really make any sense and it is SO SHORT. It took more than two full chapters for them to end this talk. I strongly recommend everyone to go and read this on webtoon. When I read this, I was so impressed by Khun’s capability of deduction. But in today’s episode, everything seems so simple that even a child would notice that something is wrong. Oh, and the message to Hoh was different too. No words.

Another disadvantage was Hoh’s funeral. Well, it was like five panels without any chitchat in manhwa, but THEY CHANGED THE CANON and made it looks like Bam was the only one who organized this. LIKE WHAT?

Ladies and gentleman... Get ready for THE MOST RUINED SCENE OF 2020. Yes, you probably know what I’am going to talk about. Khun (IN MANHWA) khuned everyone in the house by his acting. BUT IN ANIME they made it looks like a freaking Fairy Tail and power of friendship. N O. They DIDN’T help Bam immediately, because they thought of him as their friend. They were manipulated by Khun. Anime totally devastated this scene and honestly, this is the thing that made me mad the most (of course, Endorsi, Hatz, Shibi and the rest of main squad wanted to help Bam from the start, but the rest of regulars weren’t really keen on doing that).

And they all believed him. But in anime, they don’t. It is not what it was supposed to be...

They also cut off a whole explanation why Rak calls everybody turtles... Seriously I’m about to cry.

Because this was cut off, cute interaction that proved Rak and Khun friendship wasn’t included too. Rak saw through Khun’s acting and he realized that he was only trying to help Bam.

Seriously, I’m so disappointed. 

What are your thoughts guys? If you are here, thank you for reading all of this. It took me some time to write all of this. I had to skip some parts to not make this too long, but I think I failed, haha. Fell free to reblog!

And to be fair and not to be only negative. I’m in love with ost and voice acting. Animation is okay too.

[hicristy]

y'all: urek is awesome Me: urek is a fucking nerd

[clyde-wy]

Phantaminum killing the last Zahard's royal by enqlea

Enryu: the red tower by enqlea

[waitingforsecretsouls]

Not Phantaminum slaughtering his way to a face-to-face with Zahard (pretty sure he could have gotten a meeting without all that) only to leave without as much as laying a hand on him. That's his blorbo for real.

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[incorrecttowerofgodquotes]

AINT NO FUCKING WAY THE GAME JUST DROPS THIS LORE BOMB

So utter shock aside, let’s actually analyze this. There’s a brother and sister god (or at least ones with god like power) and each make a species of humans. The son created smaller but more tenacious humans while the sister made bigger, stronger, but pacifistic humans. When the smaller ones complained, the son gave them gods’ powers and then they built a structure for themselves to live in. The daughter became mad and gave her humans a book of prophecies and told them to punish the smaller humans who thought they could act like gods.

So obviously, the smaller humans are the Tower Residents and the powers given to them is the ability to control Shinsu. The people outside are the Irregulars, who occasionally come into the tower and wreak havoc.

The female god may be the God on the Outside and the book of prophecies may hold the tale of Bam (and possibly Icarus.) Enryu may be one of her loyal followers and entered the Tower to enforce the prophecy she wrote.

As for the son, I think it might be Phantaminum. We know from SIU’s blogposts that Axis’s are basically gods, having the power of storytelling, and that Phantaminum is the Axis in control of the Tower’s world. Maybe his storming of Jahad’s palace was to strike back against his sister’s creations who looked to punish his own.

To be honest, my head is spinning because of this sudden out of nowhere lore drop, and since this game was made with SIU’s involvement, it might be 100% true. I’d love to hear what you guys have to say cause this is absolutely crazy to me

[liaroflesbos]

ToG Chekov’s Arsenal

So I just caught up with ToG again and oh my god. Just... I have so many questions so I decided to make a Chekov’s Arsenal, a list of questions that have been raised in or by the story that will come back up eventually, to sort out some of my thoughts and for later reference/personal satisfaction when we understand things better. Some of these may be answered somewhere that I didn’t see and if you contact me I’ll add your questions to the list too. Here we go: 

Wangnan/Princes of Zahard

- What does it mean to be prince of the red light district? Does it just mean that he’s an unwanted/forbidden prince of Zahard or does it reference where he was born or what he does/would rule?

- What does Hwa Ryun mean when she says that Wangnan is the greatest mistake of Zahard and the ten families? Now that we understand a little bit about who he is, this still doesn’t make absolute sense… why was making a prince the greatest mistake of all and none of the other shit they’ve done?

- How will this be changed by the rumor that the coming of the prince of Zahard will open the next floor? Wait--maybe this is what Gustang means when implying that Baam is the real prince, that he fulfills this role that the prince is supposed to fill.

- Why does Repellista say that the princes are going to “come back”?

- Has Wangnan returned to his “alone asshole” hair of the first chapters??

Irregulars

- Why did Phantaminum stop himself from killing Zahard after bursting into his castle like that?

- Why did Enryu want to kill a Guardian??? Who the fuck does that benefit

- Generally, given what we know about the Universe, Phantimum and Enryu don’t seem to align with the other large powers in the tower: Zahard+Ten Great Families, FUG, and Wolhaiksong.

- Why did Enryu and Phantaminum skip the whole Guardian of God bit that Zahard, Urek, and Baam all at least approached?

- Why was Baam in that cave to begin with and why was he physically unable to leave? Why was only Rachel able to come down to him, and then she could go as needed? Where exactly were they--not in the outside world (since there are no stars) and yet still able to open the tower doors?

- Like everything about Rachel tbh. Why does FUG keep her around and in such an active way? What is she doing with Emily? How does she get people like Yura and Cassano to trust her? What’s the Traveller still doing and how is he going to be in her group w/out Cassano?

Princesses of Zahard

- Why did Enne Zahard go crazy? What does Enne know about her parents (including that mysterious asshole Gustang)?

- What does Garam Zahard want so badly as to kill her own sister for it? Will we meet her on the Floor of Death?

- What exactly is Maschenny Koon plotting? How does it conflict with Yuri so heavily--something to with collecting the 13 months to open the 135th level? How is Maria Koon involved in this plot? And while we’re on that subject, how did baby!Koon manipulate Maria into becoming a princess of Zahard?

- And the important question for me: how will Koon handle a princess vs. princess war if the two sides have Yuri & Androssi on one side and the Koon princesses (Maria) on the other?

- Wtf is Repellista plotting or watching being plotted?

- The princesses story clearly has shit going on but we don’t really have specific questions yet--I’m sure we’ll have a princess arc soon (probably in the next season given hints from the Name Hunter arc).

Hwa Ryun

- ?????? Everything? How do you know so much Hwa Ryun?? What are your motives?

FUG

- How did Baam survive the Administrator’s test on the second floor?

- Just, like, everything about Grace Mirchea Luslec. Namely: What/who are the other 10 Great Warriors who helped Zahard and why are they different from the 10 families? Why did he want to “adopt” Baam? Also where is he and why does he want so badly to bring Zahard down?

- We now know three slayers: Grace Mirchea Luslec, White, and Karaka. There are eleven in all with Karaka as the last. Who are the other eight? I bet we meet them.

- Why does Karaka cover his face and whole body?

- What does FUG even stand for? 

Current Plot Issues

- Why is Karaka on the train really? Could he be looking to murder Baam on the Floor of Death where there is no guardian? Or is he part of whatever plot Rachel is leading?

- What’s the door he finds in the latest chapter?

- My most pressing concern right now: will he Wangnan on the Floor of Death???

- Why doesn’t Rachel tell Hoaqin about the princes of Zahard and Wangnan’s importance, instead rather letting a future FUG slayer continue to assume that she’s incompetent?

- I wonder if the theme of the princes of Zahard plotline/themes will reflect Cassano and Horyang’s story in some way? If this being used/created, this being forced to be a weapon or a god (like Baam) will come up in some other way?

Other?

- What is it in Leesoo’s past that makes Anak want to stay teamed up with him?

- Will we ever see characters such as: Evankhell, the “teacher” of the workshop, Phantaminum, the Blacksmiths...

- Wtf was Paul Bidde Gustang doing with the Workshop? Has he betrayed Zahard at this late stage in the game and why would he risk giving power to an organization like FUG? Does it have something to do with his daughter Enne the Princess of Zahard? And why would Baam be the “real” prince of Zahard? And who the fuck did he talk to over the Radio?? Another ten families head or maybe Repellista?

- I’m waiting for Baek Ryun (co-founder of Wolhaiksong with Manzino, ruler of the 77th floor, top ten Ranker) to show up and be important somehow too lol

- What’s with the two knight-type guys who both have ignition weapons and the last name Hong?

- Who exactly is Arkraptor’s daughter? And which family is his wife from--from the kid’s look, maybe Arie?

- Why does Evan stay with Yuri? Do guides pick one person to follow? Why is Evan’s ranking so fucking high?