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tbh both sukugo and lawlight are just hannigram but in different font
#they are all the same ship yes but#light the god of a new world after 2 days without l you'll be god of boredom mate#sukugo are even more hannigram bc nobody has ever matched each others freak like they do#i actually haven't even read the manga but I wouldn't be surprised if sukuna was bored shitless as well now#anyway just a thought#all of them are that meme if I died how much would you miss me? it's funny how you think death can get you out of this relationship#if they aren't obsessed w each other then what's the point#hannigram#hannibal#lawlight#death note#sukugo#jujutsu kaisen
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I think the other reason I don't really get into ships as portrayed by fandom culture is that it seems like the mindset is more like. "I want these characters to be in a Romantic Relationship(TM)" instead of "I want these characters' relationship to be romantic"
What I mean here is that, so often I see pairings enacting romance tropes to the point of heavily altering or downright replacing their original dynamic - as if the people behind it only understand romance as a series of checklists to tick off. Couples like to kiss and sleep in the same bed and flirt with each other, so it doesn't matter who the characters are, if they're a couple then naturally they'll do those things, right??
And that's where the whole thing starts to lose me, because I would assume that the appeal of shipping characters is, y'know... the characters? Rather than just, the idea of a couple? If I'm thinking about how it'd be cool for them to be in love, my first thought is always "so how would they show it," because just like everything else about a person, the answer is going to be different on a case-by-case basis.
Maybe the characters involved aren't really into kissing, but they like arranging date activities. Maybe they aren't committed to the structure of dating at all, and just want to be around each other whenever they can. And even if they are the types to like doing traditionally romantic things, that doesn't suddenly erase whatever else they had going on before they started adding that on top of it.
I'm not saying that the more typical romance tropes and activities are bad, just that they're applied kind of excessively, regardless of whether or not they actually work for the characters involved. I want to see my favorite characters having relationships that are true to who they are, not what the stock depiction of a couple says they should be.
#amatonormativity#fandom#shipping#media discussion#fandom culture#analysis#meta#This would be easier to illustrate with examples but I don't wanna sound mean by targeting specific ones right out the gate#And yes people are just having fun with their metaphorical dolls and I respect that#But also. they get to find other people playing with their dolls in the same way that appeals to them all the time#I gotta play all by myself over here with how difficult it is to find the things I want
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The future never forgets the events that shaped it The past awaits for better times to come
#something something parallels idk#I just think the way 17yo pearl is always talking about wanting things to change and to grow up because capcom doesnt know what to do w/ he#(besides ´´haha teenager likes shopping´ jokes)#combined by the fact Athena kinda has nothing going post DD because the writers wanted to make it the apollo and phoenix game#could serve as an accidental setting for a young adult discovery+healing from trauma plotline/theme#combined with the ever familiar parallel of being an oversheltered and somewhat pampered kids who lost everything they ever knew#due to a traumatic event and were then forced to an abrupt change from having no freedom to having no idea of anything#but the only thing unchanged is having no autonomy in the situation itself#could serve for something real cool yknow?#(that last bit is ever familiar to us pearlthena fans)#(yes this is ship art (im aroace all my shipart is characters just hanging out or being in agony together))#(no there is no middle ground(i have so much ship art ideas that are just character chatting(and then not ship art that is the same(idk))))#ace attorney#pearl fey#athena cykes#pearlthena#my art#artists on tumblr#illistration#dual destinies spoilers#aa5 spoilers#aa2 spoilers#long as fuck tags boi#BTW pls ignore the hair strand that comes out of nowhere I literally didn't realized I had read the sketch incorrectly until#a day later of posting#And it's eating me alive but I am soooooo lazy. And like I really didn't wanted to render it again. And I still don't so RIP that
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Its snowing in Texas rn so this is my obligatory snow day post
#magi#kougyoku#judar#me and kougyoku the same. i too have never seen so much snow#i played all morning! and then drew this while i dried off#EEEKK THE SNOW IS SO FUN!!#this isnt meant to be ship art but if you want to perceive it thay way go ahead. theyre cute#kouha dressed them btw#yes Kou probably gets snow. do i care? not really#and judar has done a lot of traveling so he’s seen snow and not cared for it#my art#fanart#ren kougyoku#magi kougyoku#kougyoku ren#judar magi#judal#judal magi#fave#magi: the kingdom of magic#magi: the labyrinth of magic#magi fanart#comfort character
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The selfshipper feeling when you've had a long or hard day so you just:
*sigh* it's time.
*opens wattpad/tumblr/ao3/pinterest/youtube/etc*
#yes i am posting this about myself what of it#ok but also its just my laptop with like 4 tabs at once#theyre all of the same character or like 3 diff ones#comfort character#f/o community#self ship#fictional other
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dropping out of college to become a full time danganronpa shitposter
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#my dr memes#kitty needs to chill#junko#nagito#hajime#kokichi#shuichi#kaede#miu#angie#kaito#maki#komahina#irumatsu#kaimaki#junko enoshima#nagito komaeda#hajime hinata#kokichi ouma#shuichi saihara#kaede akamatsu#miu iruma#angie yonaga#kaito momota#maki harukawa#i have recently devoted myself entirely to irumatsu btw#they are my favorite femslash dr ship of all time#also yes i used the same text exchange for komahina and irumatsu. fuck off.
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i love watching a show about death and trauma and the dehumanization of people by the top 1% just to see endless posts about ships
#and they’re male obsessed ships at that#u watch a show where the man orchestrating another man’s demise and takes enjoyment out of his misery and u say it’s bc#he wants to fuck him#this doesn’t go for just that weird ass frontman/gihun ship but Any ship#if u watch smth like squid game and all u focus on is who’s making out w who#u are so out of touch i fear#‘let ppl do what they want’ yes and i will judge <3#bc yall are WEIRD.#‘they have chemistry’ they should ?????#why would u watch smth where the cast doesn’t have chemistry w each other#ur just weird.#i’ve said it before that i wouldn’t be as annoyed by it if wlw got the same treatment in the same shows but they do Nawt#tell me why it’s ‘let ppl have fun’ with frontman and gihun but u have to fight for ur life shipping two canon lesbians that are. canon#also side note im skeptical of western muses being put in the games. bc it hinges on this further romanticization of what they go thru#anyways#2025 i will be more annoying
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I have a confession. I do not care for the soc boys. I'm sure they have very interesting character traits and lore the actors and fandom have come up with and that is so fun and great and I know none of it and I am perfectly content with that. Shout out to all my mutuals who love the soc boys I hope you are having fun with your Ken dolls but I will not be joining you. keep slaying.
#not saying i hate them i just cant get my brain to like them the same way i do all the greasers and the soc girls#excluding bev for some reason melody ily bev ily but i dont latch onto her the same way i do cherry and marcia 😔😔😔😔#shout out to all my soc boy mutuals i hope you are having so much fun#the closest i will ever get to caring for the soc boys is randy#man was an asshole tried to kill a kid saw his best friend die went fuck all of this dumped his girlfriend left town and became a hippie#shit start great ending good job randy 👍#this is also why i havent gotten into parry#i love the gays i promise but i did not latch onto paul the way the rest of the fandom did 😔😔#i totally get it i see where yallre coming from i understand#its my ship-in-law ill support parry truthers 4ever#but im a dar-bit truther for life#yes i am also a mar-bit truther#and an aroace darry truther#i win no matter what#but anyways#i am not part of the community i am an ally ✊️✊️✊️#its also fun cuz since i know jack shit i never get annoyed at mischaracterization because i dont know what the correct characterization is#i can see anything about them and go 'yeah sure'#and it could be so out of character#and ill never know#i stay winning#anyways love yall 🫶#although i do think a reason i havent latched onto bev is because i never see anyone talking about her#if you love bev please tell me about her i want to know everything#the outsiders#the outsiders musical#two-bit talks
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stan: how can you be polyamorous and aroace, or…whatever mabel called it?
ford: in my case, i have my family and i have my platonic polycule. i would prefer to never have to interact with anyone outside these two groups
stan: what about soos and wendy? they’re not in either of those groups
ford: first of all, i am soos’ uncle, second of all, are you saying you don’t believe i would both die and kill for wendy?
stan: you’ve got a weird way of defining family, six
ford: it’s my favorite way
#it’s the last day of june and i have not been queering it up nearly enough with these text posts#needed to let myself be at least a indulgent. anyway#gravity falls#ford pines#stan pines#(stan: wait who’s the extra person in your polycule#ford: oh you wouldn’t know it it goes to another dimension)#in all seriousness though#i have not stopped thinking about ford being at least friends with the hidebehind since that au I created#so the hidebehind is definitely in on the polycule. it goes fiddleford and ford + ford and hidebehind#maybe the moth man gets thrown in too. i don’t know maybe it likes being mercilessly hunted down#who am i to assume#if the moth man was there too maybe…#ford and moth man + moth man and fiddleford + fiddleford and ford + ford and hidebehind?#i like to go with the idea that moth man is more of a warning before disasters rather than bringing them#(and we don’t even know if the gravity falls moth man is the same as virginia’s moth man)#so i think fiddleford would like him. they share superstitions and moth man is like a comfort cat#is moth man showing signs that something bad is about to happen? if no then you have physical living evidence that nothing bad is happening#if yes. fucking panic.#if they ever hit a yes the polycule may be in slight trouble of losing moth man as a member#i personally never got on board with the ford x moth man train so i’m going to keep my headcanon platonic polycule to#fiddauthor + hideford#created a new ship name what the fuck is wrong with me (lighthearted). happy pride month 🦕🏳️⚧️🦑🏳️🌈
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actually I love Tentoo and he is the Doctor and it was the only ending for Rose that worked and it is a huge gift to be able to have the man she loves grow old with her, they were always heading for that, y'all be quiet. I 100% understand the angst but it's okay, they're okay, good ending-
#did you want her to...not end up with the doctor?#she ended up with the doctor. she ended up with the doctor and they get to AGE together#they get to have a real honest relationship the way they both always genuinely wanted#it's hard that the full time lord version has to carry on without her but that is the way that character's story ALWAYS goes#the doctor does not get to keep ANYONE. it would be a different show if he did#meanwhile there is a version of that same face of his - the one that was MADE for love? particularly born out of love for ROSE? the one 1/2#2/2 that always wanted a FAMILY? and stability? and a normal life? the tenth doctor longed for that specifically because of rose#now he gets to have it AND be part-human so he doesn't have to watch her get old. he gets old WITH HER#and they're canonically growing their own Tardis so you don't even have to be sad that they're not adventuring in time and space as usual#because they ARE. it's the kindest ending for either character. and if the full time lord hadn't left without either of them-#-he would have had to lose them eventually. lose Rose because she's human? hello? painful? but instead he was selfless and left her-#-with a proper happy ending. which she CHOSE to have so you can't be like “he tricked her!” she chose to kiss one of them and it was Tentoo#they are the same man. Rose won in this scenario.#and I GET IT I am with Billie Piper I think it will always feel a little off that she was left with Tentoo and not the full time lord#I understand. it still makes me a little sad. but I know it's a good ending writing-wise. really the ONLY ending.#yes I know about the popular idea of Immortal!Rose or Bad Wolf Rose or whatever and that's cute and all BUT - it's not a GOOD thing#it's not PREFERABLE to be immortal. Rose doesn't want to live forever. she wants to be with the man she LOVES forever.#she doesn't want to not die or adventure for all time. she wants to be there to hold his hand. and when Tentoo is born she gets THAT!#Immortal!Rose is tragic. the Doctor would not wish the burden of immortality on the woman he loves HELLO#anyway#I ship timepetals. that includes Tentoo/Rose. because he is the doctor#so there#I have more thoughts on Tentoo specifically but I digress#maybe if provoked in an Ask or something idk#doctorrose#timepetals#opinion piece#tenrose#tentoo#handy
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there is not enough femslash in batcest circles. the girls deserve to be just as weird about each other as the boys are. if BruDick gets to be weird father/son/brothers/lovers/friends/rivals/soulmates then it is only fair that Babs/Cass get to be mother/daughter/sisters/lovers too. Something about that deep intrinsic but undefinable love that is born out of trauma, especially if you consider Cass not knowing what healthy love looks like in the first place. i think it's fun and deserves just as much fandom content.
besides that, you can get even more niche with rarepairs like Helena/Steph. Huntress/Spoiler: Blunt Trauma is already a fantastic comic and even though it's their only real canon interaction it has so much potential. very comparable to TimJay in how Helena tries to get Steph to understand her morals and the corruption you could play with it.
batman: huntress/spoiler: blunt trauma (1998)
that comic also highlights on how both Steph and Helena are outcasts of the Batfamily and don't have the approval of Bruce to be doing what they do in "his city". I think there's so much Potential in Helena taking Steph under her wing because Bruce won't let her in and it becomes a weird codependent toxic sapphic mess. I think the protectiveness Helena feels over Steph from the get-go is so clear and the way she wants to look out for Steph, wants to make sure Steph understands the real world? I love them. Helena should be allowed to steal Steph, actually. I think it'd be fun.
there are a lot of other possibilities too like Babs/Steph or even getting weird with Helena Bertinelli/Helena Wayne and the existential question of "is it selfcest or not." But these two specifically live in my head rent-free, especially Helena/Steph and one day I'll convince everyone else to ship it too.
#batcest#necrotic festerings#how do i tag ships that are almost non-existent#helena bertinelli x stephanie brown#cassandra cain x barbara gordon#as resident huntress fan my answer to the is helena w/helena b selfcest depends entirely on which version of helena wayne you're using.#pre-crisis!helena wayne/pre-flashpoint!helena bertinelli? yes i agrue is selfcest adjacent at least#because helena bertinelli was meant to be an adaptation of helena wayne#if it's jsa (2022)!helena wayne then it's *not* selfcest because they co-exist in the same universe#and according to current lore helena wayne was named after bertinelli and took the name huntress in her honor#which is a *choice* for sure but that's a different post#i still think shipping them is super fun in a “don't meet your heroes” sort of way with helena wayne time travelling#and then potentially running into bertinelli and realizing she's not what wayne thought she was and it being weird toxic shit#as for new-52 helena wayne. i do not acknowledge her and will not comment.#*god* I hate new-52 huntress.#(imo it would be selfcest tho bc they tried to make helena wayne a bertinelli clone. so. there's that.)#i'm going to write a helena/steph fic some day and none of you bitches can stop me#yeah yeah we have stephcass but y'all have sanitized the fuck out of that to convince yourselves it's not batcest and that made it boring.#and helena/babs is neat and all but i prefer helena/zinda when it comes to BoP ships#i should've included panels for cass/babs but it's been a while since i read batgirl (2000) so none immediately came to mind#i have a *lot* more helena/steph thoughts but no braincell to word them. know i will talk about them again.#they got one whole comic and now i won't let them go#also cass/helena is fun for combating morals and the complicated batgirl mantle#cass wears the batgirl suit *helena* made y'all think i can't make that romantic bc i can and will#if we have robin pile then give me batgirl pile#babs/helena/steph/cass hell throw in bette too.
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i Do Not Trust people who make Mary the bad guy in their stories when the show went out of its way to specifically show us how she was suffering just as much as stede was in their marriage and that shes, yknow, a good person
#mary is specifically framed in a sympathetic light in all of her appearances. the show switches to following her narrative so we can see#how much better her new life is for her too!!! like yes she tries to kill stede but we are shown in the narrative WHY she makes that choice#and that she struggles with it and we see stede understanding this too! he supports her decisions and her new life and is happy for her!!!#at no point are we shown anything that makes mary a bad person or bad mother- honestly i generally like mary far more than stede anyway#but even if you dont you should be able to acknowledge... that if u make her the bad guy??? w. what did you take away from the show??#idk it has the vibes of. the girl character all the fans hate because she gets in the way of their precious little gay ship#or whatever. you know what i mean#ofmd#our flag means death#mary bonnet#mary allamby bonnet#everyone whos a mary hater is also an izzy hater bc theyre coded the same character type. betrayed wives my beloved#(this is a joke.)#uh. this might be one to add in the tags on again sorry gang i have too many thoughts
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Reading MW takes on Twitter is like reading a summary of the Bible from someone who only watched like a Family Guy family special about it
#did we play the same game? did we see the same themes yes themes as in plural#like my god get off ur fucking high horses or stop trying to make a unique theory just to be unique#like if it clearly doesn’t fit the plot it causes unnecessary arguments#people are weird and weirdly obsessed with making like the issues in the game solely interpersonal when it is clearly very institutional#with everything we learn about PE and how hard they make it to seek justice or safety#and ur treating it like the average person is a horrible troll monster#when the game really tries to show you how humans people become bad or can be enabled to do their worse through many different ways#but go ahead make it seem like all the men are like willingly Jimmy’s goon squad of predator enablers pls pls pls just look from another#view point I’m begging yall sometimes it’s good to leave those echo chambers#like taking parts of conversations out of context to make characters look better or worse is literally a tactic Jimmy uses ur using Jimmy#tactics to prove ur point dummy head#side tag tangent I am also very annoyed with how many people really do think Curly could’ve just had changes made to the ship during the#travel like a big point is that they barely had resources to just survive regularly#other than random scrap and wires for serious repairs they def didn’t just have locks laying about nor are the doors outside of medical and#the cockpit are suited to install locks like the whole point of the illusion of choice#is that at the end the options presented were never gonna be viable whether it was because of the time needed to execute them the standards#they were under or their lack of resources all mainly caused by PE no matter how much Curly#wanted to do something there’s very little he could’ve#even the ideas posed we have would have only happened after the assault and done little to actually stop the crash when you think about it#and it’s sad and sounds weird but that’s the case#mouthwashing
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"if grimpop was slash everyone would ship it" and if my grandmother had wheels she would've been a bike. like yeah dawg, it's almost as if there is a lot of cultural baggage that comes with older men/younger women ships that does not exist for gay relationships and that might be one of the reasons people aren't into it romantically
#like. they're fundamentally different dynamics#and again i cannot stress enough that i have nothing against people who do ship it#but like. people have very good reasons to not ship it#yanno?#like. is it possible for a younger man and an older man to have a problematic relationship irl?#obviously yes#in the same sense that it is entirely possible for an older man and a younger woman to have a healthy relationship irl#but!! there is also a longstanding cultural pattern of older men preying on younger women!!!#emphasis on the CULTURAL PATTERN thing#it's almost baked into society#so yeah some people have a negative reaction to that#in the way they wouldn’t for slash ships#it happens#and yes of course there is a preference for slash in fandom and yes that is in part bc of sexism#there's Nuance to everything#but. imho it is comparing apples to slightly apple-like oranges#in the same way that there has been a backlash to jeffannie in recent years#people are simply less into older men dating younger women these days#because of reasons mentioned before#and also bc complex platonic male/female relationships are rare in media!!!#anyway. again ship what you want#but like. instead of complaining maybe just. write some fanfic. draw some fanart. idk contribute something. make it more popular#ok that's all from me im gonna go to sleep now#mqposting
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bought some acrylic markers, thx to two artists we follow on social media.
to us, this is fun! but it requires to be really _fast_)))) *play some -core*
back to the 2012 trippy drawings, huh?))
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#k's wave#k's art#the magnus archives#the vast#the spiral#mike crew#michael the distortion#(yes our eternal ship)#also#worshitposting#because of the quote and using the alphabet#ffs not all british men look the same#and we're not THAT bad at drawing faces
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my guilty pleasure ship really is karlach and astarion soo bad and it is solely because i like the size difference and i think karlach should tear that man apart
#aristotle.txt#my fav ship is probably ravenhart aka wyll and shadowheart followed by some version of wyllstarion and wyllach. naturally#a beautiful masc and her little princely mf. i also like wyllach for the same reasons sdjsfkdjgdhfdh but im not guilty for that !#those are all wyll ships you say. yes i know#being frank though i think astarion is probably more into karlach in a very specific way . anyways i like them#ship stuff#hellspawn#starlach#such a cute shipname too lol
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