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Hello my friends,
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I am Mohammed Ayyad from Gaza Shuja'iyya
I have sought refuge with you because of the devastating war that caused me to lose my home and my mother and our displacement from one place to another and I lost my children's future and there is a severe shortage of basic materials,
I have sought refuge with you so that I can provide a decent and safe life for me and my family consisting of my wife and my children Yasser, Omar, Maryam, Jana and Sarah, each of whom has dreams but unfortunately they have lost hope and despair controls them,
I hope that you will stand by us whether by donating if possible or participating widely,
Thank you very much
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Unfortunately I’m not in a position to donate but everyone who can should!
I am truly sorry I can’t help
Here’s the gofundme for everyone https://gofund.me/e7c7528a
#from river to sea palestine will be free#I don’t really know what to tag#kind of dystopian I think having to reach out on social media sites and participate in trends#there is a lot to say about the treatment of Palestinians by the media and general public#but go donate#donate
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Daily update post:
The IDF estimates, maybe based on a baby bottle that was found where hostages are known to have been held, in the basement of the Rantisi hospital in Gaza, that a woman who was kidnapped while pregnant, has given birth in captivity. That makes her child the youngest hostage, at the age of a few days at most.
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While our kids and babies are being held hostage in dark basements and tunnels, Israel is offering Gazans medical assistance for their kids. At this link you can listen to a subtitled conversation (the article is in Hebrew, just scroll to the first embedded vid), where an IDF officer is offering the Shifa hospital manager to place at the entrance to the building 37 incubators and 4 respirators for the kids and babies. The officer also vows to the manager to help protect as much as possible the patients, wards and staff in the hospital. During the conversation, the offer is accepted, but the IDF says later it was rejected. As I can't see who would outrank the hospital manager, I'm guessing the "No" came from Hamas.
Rockets continue to be fired into Israel. Today, a rocket barrage at Tel Aviv, at a kids playground, left one person seriously wounded, and two moderately.
Thank you so much to the Israeli Nonnie who sent me this vid. Yes, that is exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned in my update yesterday, this is Hamas attacking Palestinians in order to take over this aid truck and get all of the food for themselves (the relevant footage starts 11 seconds in):
Jeremy Corbyn, the man who could have been the British Prime Minister, and who British Jews called out on antisemitism, was interviewed by Piers Morgan. He was asked 15 (arguably 16) times to answer the question whether Hamas is a terrorist group, but refused to give a reply.
I was listening to this interview with Ella Keinan (it's in Hebrew), an Israeli travel vlogger, who has started posting about the Israeli POV since Oct 8. She didn't say anything I didn't know, but I thought the way she phrased things was powerful, so allow me to translate:
They created a brand called Free Palestine, which is not actually freeing the Palestinians and giving them what they want, but under this brand it's possible to do anything nowadays, it's possible to rape, it's possible to slaughter, it's possible to kidnap, it's possible to abuse, to kill, it's possible to hurt and kill Jews in LA, it's possible to attack them at universities, and you'll still be applauded. Meaning, you'll still be popular. That's how powerful this brand is.
Meanwhile, Israel's foreign diplomacy has officially been shut down due to a lack of budget. A lot of government offices are being shut down, and their budget is being re-directed to help the evacuated, the families of the murdered, the injured, financially supporting people whose businesses have collapsed, compensating those whose homes were destroyed by Palestinian rockets. So when you hear people dismissing regular Israelis' posts as paid propaganda by the Israeli government... what a fucking joke, Israel can't even currently pay professionals in this field, let alone regular people.
This is 19 years old Noa Marziano.
Yesterday, Hamas published a vid of her as a hostage. The Israeli media refused to cooperate with the psychological warfare, no one published it. Today, the IDF was able to confirm that Noa was murdered in captivity.
This is 12 years old Liel Hetzroni.
Her mother Shira, after gaving birth to her and her twin brother, suffered brain damage, and couldn't take care of her kids, so they were raised by their grandparents. Liel's grandfather and brother's bodies were already found. Today, after having been missing for 38 days, Liel's death was also pronounced.
This is 75 years old Vivien Silver.
She was a peace activists. Among other things, she used to volunteer her time driving Gazans to medical treatments in Israel. She was thought to be kidnapped in Gaza, but today her body was identified.
May their memories be a blessing.
(for all of my updates and ask replies regarding Israel, click here)
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December 19th, 73 days since October 7th
TLDR- I am sick of seeing Hamas propaganda here. People here are posting literal blood libels and mistranslated quotes.
After taking a break from social media for the rest of Chanuka, your favorite Zionist is back. Don't worry though, once again, people who never had any interest in this tiny piece of land, continue to tell me, a Jewish Israeli, that I have got my history and facts wrong, while they know better than I do. To that, I have 2 answers: 1. I am just a student who wants to live in peace. I am not a "zionist demon" or a "genocidal killer".
When I call myself a Zionist, all it means is that I'm a Jewish woman who would like to live peacefully in her homeland. I don't inherently support war or death from any side because I am a Zionist. 2. I actually live here, born and raised, and so were my grandparents. How delusional and condescending can you be to suggest that you, a Western person who only found out about this conflict a while ago on Tiktok, know better than an Israeli??? More on double standards Sometimes I wonder why most of you didn’t have such a strong reaction to any other war & civil war going on right now: in Ukraine/ Yemen/Congo and Syria**, etc. Considering the amount of antisemitic hate anons I've received I have a feeling why...
**Which directly affected the lives of most Palestinians.
As I've said in previous posts- It’s easy to throw around big words you don’t understand. There is no apartheid as all Israeli citizens have the same rights. - Gaza is not occupied by Israel- it’s been returned multiple times in history ( just to name a few: 1956,1987,2006...).
*Even when it was under Israel’s control, all it meant was that there were approximately 10 Jewish settlements in Gaza*. The Israeli military presence was to protect those people& prevent terror attacks.
Blood Libels
In addition to the lies and the poor mistranslations from Hebrew, I have also received \ seen an alarming amount of Nazi Propaganda. -you say that you’re anti-Zionist and not anti-Semitic, yet you use antisemitic rhetoric…
Comparisons between Israelis and Nazis -Comparing Israelis to Nazis is wrong on so many levels.
In case you aren't aware, the holocaust was a premeditated and carefully planned genocide, that lasted 6 years. 6 MILLION Jews were killed and all of their possessions were stolen. It followed hundreds of years of persecution, violence, and discriminatory laws. They were also starved and enslaved in different sorts of manual labor, in addition to being experimented on. They were held in Ghettos and concentration camps. In the aftermath of the war, Jews were completely driven out of their land and face prosecution across the world to this day. The existence of Israel allows Jews to live free of that. The Israel-Hamas war following October 7th is a war against a terrorist organization that invaded Israel and massacred its civilians. Unfortunately, due to Hamas' tactics, there are a lot of Palestinian civilian casualties. While they are wrong- the treatment of Palestinians and the bombing of Gaza are nothing like what the Nazis did.
Debunking some misconceptions I've seen on Viral posts here: -No, we Jews do not control the media and global banks. At least invent something new, this is giving Medivel blood libels used by the church lol. -We do not go around killing innocent Palestinian babies for fun. We have laws and a moral compass (Shocking I know). We do not go and kidnap people or rape women for fun either. Do you know who does that? Hamas, the terrorist organization. -We're not all white, this conflict does not revolve around race: There are many Jewish Israelis from the same countries that Palestinians originated from (i.e: Egyptian & Jordanian Jews ). -Israelis perceive Palestinians as lesser human'- This claim is usually supported by mistranslation of Hewbew and out-of-context Interviews. The phrase חיות אדם (Chayot Adam, savages, acting like animals) was obviously often used to describe Hamas terrorists who took part in the October 7th masssacre. We do not call or treat Palestinians as "animals" or savages. All of the referenced instances were about those Hamas terrorists.
-There isn't a 'Gaza Ministry of Health', it's all Hamas. The number of Palestinian casualties and other claims they make are not to be trusted. Most of the casualties are terrorists.
So what is my point?
It is important to note that am not ignoring any of the Palestinian deaths. I’m not saying they should die either. Please stop assuming I do!!
All I’m saying is that Israeli victims matter as well. For some reason, some people cannot comprehend that Israeli civilians do not deserve to die just because of where they live.
You wouldn’t call for the death of all Americans/ Europeans/ South Africans etc… while they committed actual genocide & apartheid.
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Today's vetted Palestinians campaigns
Since it's Thanksgiving also my birthday I just wanted to say I'm thankful for being able to help Palestinians get their campaign out there and not giving up fighting for their rights to live and be heard for my birthday I wish for a free Palestine and full liberation in celebration I'll be posting longest post I did please share this or donate
Genocide flattens every discussion. There are no new conversations to be had about the destruction, death and cruelty. After more than a year, there is nothing left to be said about various media houses, corporations and international bodies of law aiding and abetting all that has been happening in Gaza, either. It is the banality of evil, it is colonialism. However even in this atrociously banal circumstance, I do think what still is a continued point of hope for Gazans and what still pushes so many of them to reach out to the world, is the support people around the globe have shown and still continue to show. Which is why I am here on behalf of campaigns Palestine blogs ask me to share or donate.
@khadigayousef2024
[https://gofund.me/fefe93ba]
Save the life of an innocent child
PLEASE look at this fundraiser. (@khadigayousef2024) Yousef's baby is in critical condition and the doctors in Gaza are unable to help him due to the lack of proper medical care. His son is unable to breathe normally and Yousef's fundraiser is nearly dead in the water, with only €30,126 raised out of a $20,000 goal. If 100 people reading this donated $10, Yousef could raise $1000 in a day. If you are able to donate, if you can do anything to help, please do not delay. Yousef's son's life depends on it.
@shareeffamily
Donate to Save My Innocent Children
[https://gofund.me/f1df26b6]
Vetted by gazavetters €650/€50k
Shareef Alamoudi has twin children Husam and Ahmed, five months old, they came after four IVF. His wife and her came to Egypt in June to do IVF and his wife got pregnant and we got stuck in Egypt after the war, he was an employee in Gaza and his wife was a math teacher and now they have no income, the twins was born in April and one of them (Ahmed) has heart holes, needs custody, a lot of treatments and costs, and now he needs special milk and medication.
@free-palestine-2023
Urgent Appeal: Support Our Humanitarian Mission in Gaza [https://gofund.me/85d6cc93] vetted by gazavetters, and my verification number is (#209). €276/ €70k
@fayezjadallah
Join Us in Our Struggle: Save Our Family from War in Gaza [https://gofund.me/33d78314] £5 585/£25k
Mohammed is in critical condition after being shot by Israeli drones. He has been taken to the operating and urgently needs treatment outside the Gaza Strip.
@najah-tamim2023
Urgent Help me meet my father and get out to safety [https://gofund.me/d4d8c6bc] €2,976/€20k vetted by 90-ghost and gazavetters (#113)
@shahdgazaa Save my little girl's life
[https://gofund.me/e5c8cd3a]
$2,101 raised of $20,000
PLEASE PLEASE I beg look at this campaign
Mohammed Abuawad's baby is in critical condition and the doctors in Gaza are unable to help her due to the lack of proper medical care. The daughter suffers from kidney failure and autism and Mohammed Abuawad's fundraiser is nearly dead in the water, with only $822 raised out of a $20,000 goal. If 100 people reading this donated $10, Mohammed Abuawad could raise $1000 in a day. If you are able to donate, if you can do anything to help, please do not delay. Mohammed Abuawad's daughter's life depends on it.
@familgazaamal1
Support the family of little Amal to get an urgent operation [https://gofund.me/27f2d7bb] $6,687/$30k
This campaign is vetted by the association. This campaign belongs to the family of @asmaamajed2's brother. (@asmaamajed2 campaign has been shared by 90-ghost, promoted by
@aliandhadeel-family7
Help me and my family escape to safety
[ https://gofund.me/e80367ff ]
Save the life of an innocent child
PLEASE look at this fundraiser. ( @aliandhadeel-family7) Hadeel's baby is in critical condition and the doctors in Gaza are unable to help him due to the lack of proper medical care. Her son is unable to breathe normally and Yasser's fundraiser is nearly dead in the water, with only €105 raised out of a €70,000 goal. You can help this family getting out this nightmare safely if you share or donate $10/$5/$20 donations are protected but please share their campaign to get them verified and also donations
@mariam-gaza
Help my children to evacuat gaza
$1,216/$20,000 6% of their goal
[ https://gofund.me/b2e57341 ]
This campaign is vetted by association through @ayoosh-gaza (who is herself vetted by association through another vetted person here). Mariam, along with Huda (@huda-gaza) are Ayaa's sisters.
@noor509
Help Nour and his family survive the war in Gaza [ https://gofund.me/003421a3 ] $33,039/$45,000 73% vetted by 90-ghost and association
@mohmoud-j & @jomana-ha Help Mahmoud’s Family Evacuate for Urgent Medical Care [https://gofund.me/363ae8ca]
$15,588 raised of $60,000
Verified by emperorpalpatittay and a-shade-of-blue
@anasgaza12 Donate to allow my family to survive [https://gofund.me/f6e9cad8]
€12,211 raised of €50,000
Vetted by gazavetters , their number verified on the list is ( #32 ) and various others
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@asil60
Support Asil Fight for Life and Family in Gaza
[ https://gofund.me/00e17ca7]
$64,845/$100,000 65% vetted by 90-ghost and various others
@abedhilles Help me save myself and my child Karam [ https://gofund.me/c6b702ba ]
$4,350 raised of $35,000
Vetted by 90-ghost
@hind3en Help reunite our family and rebuild our lives again [https://gofund.me/e207de41]
$1,561 raised of $40,000
Proof being vetted [ https://www.tumblr.com/rhq2744/760240324607164416/verified-by-rhq2744?source=share ]
@alimeq92 Help us survive 10 months of hunger, aya & ali [https://gofund.me/c7fcda11]
€2,161 raised of €70,000
Vetted by gazavetters, number verified on the list is ( #54 )
@aboyousef1973
Hamdi Ali Ayyad [https://gofund.me/1981e402]
€1,882 raised of €25,000
@mahmodsyj Help Mahmoud and his family escape Gaza & continue education [https://gofund.me/c106d785] $5,390 raised of $25,000
Vetted gazavetters, number verified on the list is ( #63 ) and beesandwatermelon list is #190
@ayman-meq18
Aidez la famille MOKDAD a survivre au genocide israélite [https://gofund.me/94edbc2b]
€1,119 raised of €90,000
Vetted by gazavetters, number verified on the list is ( #94 )
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@kawlafamily01
Support Khawla's Family in Gaza Crisis
$9,065/$20,000 45% donations has been made [https://gofund.me/5050ded3]
She is a mother of three children, the elder Mohammed, 6 years old, who was infected with hepatitis C from water and malnutrition and needs special food and complementary treatment to support his weak immunity. Verified by @fidaa-family2 is her sister
@dina-my-family
Help me save my children from death in the Gaza war $12,245/$50,000 goal [https://gofund.me/1bff15a6]
Dina's son is suffering from a bad fever and they need support to afford basic necessities like food, water, diapers, and clothes to keep warm during the upcoming winter. Please keep sharing, & donate to help the campaign!
@asmaayyad1 and @deyaa-97
€25,460/€45,000 57% has been donated
Help me and my family escape the war in Gaza [https://gofund.me/466fa61a]
Verified by 90-ghost various others
@rewaida7
Help Maher and his family escape Gaza, and build a future [https://gofund.me/1ccd21c2] €2,812/€30,000 vetted by 90-ghost Vetted gazavetters, number verified on the list is ( #35 )
@hebanaseif
Helping Heba Family : Escaping War to a New Life €62/€50,000 [https://gofund.me/e6a27592]
0% of their goal donations are protected but lack of verification and sharing campaign not getting them more donations so please share or tag any accounts can help them get verified
@mahmoudayyads
Urgent aid ! Help to fight starvation for an extended family €6,770/€55,000 12% of their goal [ https://gofund.me/fe3cd6dc ]
Verified by 90-ghost
@hanangaza1
Save Hanan and her children to reach safety
[ https://gofund.me/269b7293 ]
$3,575/$100,000 4% of their goal
Verified by 90-ghost
@olagaza
Ola's Family Call for your Support Amid Crisis
[ https://gofund.me/89e42c74 ]
$57,654/$85,000 68% of their goal
Verified by 90-ghost various others
@najahmeq2
Help us to survive
[ https://gofund.me/6faa91b4 ]
€3.781/€80.000 5% of their goal
Vetted by gazavetters number verified on the list is ( #49 )
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@ahmaad860
Help Ahmed’s family escape the war
[https://gofund.me/aa7b3ff2]
€10,052/€50,000 20% of their goal
Verified by 90-ghost and gazavetters number verified on the list is ( #1 )
@ahmed-family-1
Help my family to live and go to a safe place
[https://gofund.me/60c0d478]
£11,623/£81,000 14% of their goal
@manar4ram
Announcing a campaign to evacuate Ahlam for treatment abroad [ https://gofund.me/8398f4cc ] €1,716/€20,000 9% of their goal
Ahlam Ramadan suffers from kidney failure and has 6 daughters and a son she URGENTLY needs to Evacuate is in critical condition and the doctors in Gaza are unable to help her due to the lack of proper medical care. PLEASE share or donate to help her family.
Vetted by gazavetters number verified on the list is ( #69 )
@ahmad-syam2
Help Ahmed Jehad and his newborn survive!
[ https://gofund.me/028d6998 ]
$6,704 CAD/$40,000 16% of the goal
Vetted by gazavetters number verified on the list is ( #84 ) Verified by bees and watermelon, number 171 and northgazaupdates.
@eyadnasir-6
Help my family EVACUATE from Gaza.
[ https://gofund.me/9e599706 ]
€2,338/€40,000 5% Vetted by Nabulsi and Vetted by gazavetters #24 Iyad Alanqar @eyadgaza and his family are in grave danger. They have been living through a year of war without proper access to food, shelter, or medical care. Several children of the family have already been killed recently due to bombing.
Right now, missiles have been going off around the Alanqar family. Iyad fears that he may die tonight. He wants his family to survive, to not die unjustly in this genocide. However, he cannot do so alone. He needs your help to purchase basic necessities
@omar-gaze3
Help jody and her family evacuate from Gaza
[ https://gofund.me/60d9e2dd ]
£11,771/£20,000 59% has been donated
This campaign is vetted by association. Omar is the best friend of @mohiy-gaza
@monayazji
Help Youssef and his family escape the occupation [https://gofund.me/2e1c5dfb]
kr9,556 SEK/kr200,000 55% has been donated
Vetted by number verified on the list is ( #87 )
@shamiamja
Help Jamal Shamia survive the war.
[ https://gofund.me/0409fb46 ]
kr67,488 SEK/kr250,000 27% has been donated
@emanfamily5
Help Eman and Her Children Escape Gaza
[ https://gofund.me/77751696 ]
$2,227/$20,000 11% of their goal
This campaign is vetted by the association through @eslamfamily3 . Eman is her sister.
Disclaimer: I am NOT an official vetter and I did NOT vet this. That was done by the aforementioned vetted Palestinian, I'm just the messenger. I personally believe this campaign is legitimate given the evidence and encourage you to share and donate if you feel comfortable.
@maria-gaza1
Urgent: Help Maria and her family survive the war in Gaza [ https://gofund.me/a85bebee ]
$9,792 CAD/$30,000 33%
Vetted by 90-ghost
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@rewaamir
Help Rewaa's family survive the hell of war in Gaza [ https://gofund.me/e621f3ef ] 0% ther goal
$100 CAD/$55,000
Vetted by gazavetters, number verified on the list is ( #155 )
@randasalem75
Help My Family in Gaza Secure Food and Medicine Amid War [ https://gofund.me/8098c31e ]
$78 CAD/$50,000
Unvetted but reverse image are clear and donations are protected
@sfaamq10
Support Safaa's Quest To Get Her Family To Safety. [ https://gofund.me/9955bd5a ]
$21,316/$75,000 28% of their goal
Safaa is a 26 year old lawyer and mother to an 8 month old baby boy named Amir living in Gaza. She and her extended family have been dealing with extreme stress, loss, and health issues due to the destruction. She and her husband Mohammed have had to relocate, lost access to clean water, food and proper shelter, and have had their goals and dreams seemingly crushed. But there is still so much hope.
@fatma-family
Support Fatima's Family in Gaza After Heartbreaking Tragedy [ https://gofund.me/7d2bedab ]
€10,145/€20,000 51% their goal
Unvetted?? but reverse image are clear and donations are protected
@valentina-leonardi
Help Mahmoud's family survive the genocide!
[ https://gofund.me/b97a7d0b ] €6,280/€35,000 18%
Valentina is helping Mahmoud's family by making their campaign completely Vetted and safe to donate. It will all go to Mahmoud's family.
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@ahmadmoneer €889/€30,000
Ahmed in the Heart of War:A Father's Struggle to Save family [ https://gofund.me/27142aea ]
Unvetted but reverse image are clear and donations are protected
@amany-raed
Help us to survive from this war
[ https://gofund.me/67de5ee7 ]
Vetted by gazavetters , number verified on the ( list #8 ) €1,671/€35,000
@abood-gaza4
Help Abood From the War
[ https://gofund.me/7a4d8d0a ]
$20,225/$40,000 51% of their goal
Vetted by dlxxv-vetted-donations abood account was unfortunately deleted that's why
@ayooshsthings
Helping my family to evacuate from Gaza
[ https://gofund.me/87a0fa9f ]
$10,975/$35,000 31% of the goal
Vatted by gaza-evacuation-funds
@aiamaher2
Help Aya's family survive the war.
[https://gofund.me/651401af]
€4,124/€55,000 6%
Doing a reverse image search has turned up nothing. Donate if you can and reblog. Sharing does help.
@haninfamily5
Support Hanin's Family in Rebuilding Life
( https://gofund.me/3c840d91 )
$4,180/$20,000 21%
Gerard is helping Hanin's family by making their campaign completely Vetted and safe to donate. It will all go to Hanin's family.
@saja2007
Help Salwaś family escape the war
[ https://gofund.me/f1e78c37 ]
€75/€40,000
Vetted by gazavetters, number verified on the list is ( #179 )
@kaw95thar1
Kawthar family to evacuate from Gaza war
[https://gofund.me/4089480c]
€3,870/€50,000 3%
Vetted by gazavetters, number verified on the list is ( #145 ) vetted by 90-ghost
Vetted by gaza-evacuation-funds
@ezzaldeens-blog2
Rebuilding Hope: Help Ezzedine Escape the War in Gaza [https://gofund.me/f5bc0ff1]
€4,564/€10,000
vetted by 90-ghost a-shade-of-blue dlxxv-vetted-donations gaza-evacuation-funds and Gaza vetters number verified is #52
@dahdoohfamily
Help Dr. Osama's family survive death in Gaza
[https://gofund.me/f05a632c] €664/€70,000
Doing a reverse image search has turned up nothing. Donate if you can and reblog. Sharing does help.
@wafaaresh6
Support Wafa's Fight for Safety and Health
[ https://gofund.me/03e1abcd ]
$49,186/$50,000 98%
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@odayfamily
Help Oday And Family Evacuate Gaza, Rebuild Lives [https://gofund.me/c217b7f7]
€5,628/€50,000 11%
Vetted by el-shab-huseein nabulsi gaza-evacation-funds is the access number (261) on their spreadsheet.
@aboodalqedra10
Your support encourages me to move forward. For my family [https://gofund.me/95360334] €6,229/€25,000
campaign is verified by gaza-evacuation-funds
@nadafarra999
Help me save my family from Gaza
[https://gofund.me/d0a409eb]
€1,328/€20,000
Doing a reverse image search has turned up nothing. Donate if you can and reblog. Sharing does help.
@yousef-falestinef
Help Palestine and Family Survive the Gaza Crisis [https://gofund.me/77ca82d7]
$30,512/$40,000 76% of their goal
Vetted by 90-ghost
@ahmedashrafanqar
Support Ahmed's Family in Their Stand Against Aggression [https://gofund.me/353a445c]
€65/€30,000
Doing a reverse image search has turned up nothing. Donate if you can and reblog. Sharing does help.
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@osama--basil-blog
From Rubble to Success: Helping Osama Rebuild His Dream [https://gofund.me/100da7db]
Verified by 90-ghost gazavetters #146 on this list €3,687/€15,000 25%
@mayarram
Announcing a campaign to evacuate Ahlam for treatment abroad [ https://gofund.me/8398f4cc ] €2,639/€20,000
Vetted by gazavetters 90-ghost
gaza-evacuation-funds
@2malakmaloka
Urgent Relief; Help my family evacuate
[ https://gofund.me/f259485b ]
€1,170/€40,000 verified by @/ibtisams
@jaber-alhj7
Support a Family's Journey to Safety and Peace [ https://gofund.me/c1544f1a ] $1,195/$29,000 4% of goal
Vetted by 90-ghost and association
@ahmed-walid-sadeq94
[ https://gofund.me/07083b05] €405/€70,000
Vetted by 90-ghost
@mohamed-s3
Help Salem Family From Gaza
[https://gofund.me/9233fc30] €8,052/€10,000 81%
Vetted by 90-ghost
@eslam-gaza
Support for a Family in Need
[ https://gofund.me/8957280f ] €582/€50,000 1%
Vetted by Gaza vetters number is #181
@asma-jamal
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One of the best things I've read lately is "Get used to the guilt."
You can't boycott for x and x reason? Get used to feeling like you have blood on your hands. Do not post "but ackshually im a good person this is not my fault!?!?!" for internet validation.
"I don't want to pick a side"/"both sides!" people have basically picked their side. You're not standing with the oppressed as long as you have equal support for their oppressors. Get used to feeling horrible about your lack of morals and integrity.
"Can we not share the graphic videos, they trigger me" journalists are risking their lives to get these out to the world so sharing them is our responsibility. If you need to look away from them do so in your own accord (you can turn off autoplay, mute things, take a break from social media etc.)- don't ask people to do it, and acknowledge that you're privileged enough to look away unlike the victims. Do not announce "Muted for my mental health!" to the world. This isn't about you.
Some of y'all are so quick to bring up the treatment of women and/or queer people in Arab countries as an excuse not to support Palestine. It says a lot about YOU that you assume palestine doesn’t have queer people and they aren’t being affected in this genocide. If you do not care about queer people in Palestine you do not care about them at all. If you don’t care about palestinian women you aren’t a feminist, you're just an opportunist.
Lastly, whining about "moral privilege" is not a good look. No, no one knows everything from the womb. Yes, some have been more aware of certain issues than the others. And you can choose to learn and be in a process of learning, which is appreciated. Trust me, it is. What isn’t appreciated is some of y'all wanting to be coddled into speaking up against literal genocide and getting mad when people don't pat you on the back for the bare minimum. "Motaz being angry doesn’t help his cause!" "You guys were morally privileged enough to never have had a nazi phase!" Do you guys hear yourselves. This. Isn’t. About. You.
I know firsthand that learning is hard. Especially in the middle of the heavy Israeli propaganda it has to be an active choice to learn and act, so it is admirable. But it's also the least you can do. Don't expect gold stars for it. If you are not doing it right, get used to the guilt. Accept that people who have been hurt by your ideas/behaviour have the right to direct their anger at you. You don't get to give up trying to do the right thing and feel better about yourself at the same time.
#i am very disturbed about this. some “liberals” have been getting on my nerves with their so many words to say “idc what about ME”#rant#palestine#social media
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Just wanted to say thanks for posting so much information about revisionist zionism and the israeli-palestinian history and conflict. Before now i wouldn't have known the nuances behind all of this, and likely would have been completely misinformed about hamas and what israel does in general, likely being on the side that openly decries the "terrorist organization" without any knowledge of the subject. After reading about the history of the british mandate up through now, the hamas charter from 2017, the "zionism isn't what you think it is" and reading all the articles you post regarding the casualty tolls and US action, and even (and honestly especially)the stuff regarding the historic treatment and attitudes of israel towards diasporic jews. I feel alot better informed and a little more disturbed about the complacency of (US-based personally) the media coverage. tbh i can see why so many people are so easily misinformed as i was, the information is available but its so spread out and you made it easy to parse and check sources for, and even just reading through your posts was a time sink and emotional strain i just happened to have the temperment for at the moment.
I'd be off anon but admitting my previous ignorance is a little too embarassing tbh. So just thanks again.
thank you, im glad people appreciate my posts. also, on hamas specifically, i want to say what im posting is part of a general criticism of how people perceive (frequently violent) struggle against colonialism and imperialism without grasping its context, and how terrorism gets defined and what its rhetorical uses in us foreign policy are. western media also referred to the viet cong and the algerian national liberation front as terrorists, and they both unfortunately did kill civilians as well. i think a lot of this all starts to make more sense in the context of american imperialism and reporting on foreign issues in general and i recommend reading more about it if youre interested
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TFSR: Could you introduce yourself for the listeners? Your name and pronouns and any other information that you’d like people to know about you?
Cindy Milstein: First, I really want to thank you for having me on the Final Straw and preparing so well ahead of time for this. My name is Cindy Milstein. And I use they or he for pronouns. And yeah… prior to the pandemic, I was doing a lot of anarchist organizing, including anarchist summer school, and was part of the Montreal Bookfair Collective. And I focus a lot on doing care, solidarity and grief projects. And I also do books! So I’m on the show today about the latest anthology I just did.
TFSR: Yeah, I was really excited about this book: “Nothing So Whole as a Broken Heart – Mending the World as a Jewish Anarchist” which is out with AK Press. Particularly for me as like a queer anarchist Jew to see all this writing that you put together by people who are navigating those things being queer, anarchist, and Jewish. And I think the book provides a really beautiful take on all the kinds of feelings that I’ve tried to work through for myself, and my relationship to Jewishness, and the book as a whole makes a case for how Jewishness fits into queerness and anarchism… As an ethical, political way of living in this world, which is also the way that I’ve heard you define anarchism before that I find really helpful. But before we dive into some of the stuff in the book, I want to just talk… mention, you know, the recent widespread attention given to Israel’s violent occupation of Palestine. It always comes up now and again, in the mainstream media, but we know that this is an ongoing thing… the state’s genocidal treatment of Palestinians. So I wanted to ask for your thoughts on how Jewish anarchist specifically can speak out and respond to the ongoing Palestinian struggle for liberation.
CM: Yeah, I also wanted to start off and saying that my heart is really heavy with all the Palestinians who are having to deal with… yet again, massive amounts of death and destruction. It’s too bad this keeps happening. And I was thinking about how as Jewish anarchists, you know… maybe this plays into, in a way, why the anthology came out too… And why there’s a resurgence of sort of Jewish anarchism… I was thinking about a lot of people that were anarchists or anarchistic who did something called the International Solidarity Movement. Was that like 20 years ago or something? Mostly? And people would go to the occupied territories and help with olive harvests and be there as, you know, bodies in solidarity doing both contributing through to helping Palestinians with things they needed, also being bodies against the Israeli state.
Anarchists Against The Wall was another project. Again, not everyone was anarchists in it, but it was Israeli, including anarchist Jews. So there has been a tradition of Jewish anarchists engaging in really tangible direct action and solidarity in Palestine, and the State of Israel. And then you kind of flash forward and the past few years… I was thinking about this a lot. It’s not, again, by at all anarchists but some Jewish anarchists have been really involved in groups like “If Not Now”, and “Jewish voices for Peace” and other groups like that. And that have been doing a lot of work within Jewish institutional structures in larger Jewish communities on Turtle Island, and other places to try to switch away from this conflation of Judaism with Zionism and there’s been a lot of groundwork.
So then we come to this moment. I don’t know, it’s just felt really powerful to watch! It’s been really moving. The solidarity demonstrations are massive. They were instantaneous and in so many places. But just the one I went to, which wasn’t huge, in Pittsburgh. I felt this even there with a few 100 people. It was, you know… Muslims, Jews, Palestinians, Christians, anarchists. And it felt so much a deeper form of solidarity, where it wasn’t as unusual in a way for there to be people coming there with the fullness of who they were in a solidarity. It just felt really moving. And myself included in that I and a couple other queer Jewish anarchist decided to make some banners and one of them we made there was “Solidarity With Palestine. Abolish the State.” We had lots of kind of debate about that. How do.. should we be bringing a perspective? I thought we should. But I was really struck ahead of time and when we brought it to the solidarity demo people were really receptive to having Jews there naming that they were Jews bringing their views. There were other signs that other Jews had brought there weren’t anarchists that were… you know, “Judaism Does Not Equal Zionism” and all these things! But that would make it clear that they were Jews and I think and… as many people by listening have seen images of the solidarity demos, there’s so many demonstrations in which Jewish anarchists and also radical Jews were being really clear about who they were at the solidarity demonstrations.
Now, why is that? It’s not to be like “Hey, look! Here I am.” But I think that’s because Jews are told we should have an extra responsibility to that struggle. For us to be contesting the way the State of Israel is instrumentally using what we understand to be the beauty of Jewishness and Judaism to uphold the state and occupation and colonialism. I think it’s really powerful to say “No”. This is not this hegemony of a viewpoint. And I think the other thing a lot of Jewish anarchists have been doing is holding spaces for the grief of people being killed.
Again, I was part of a… I didn’t organize this, but some Jewish anarchists in Pittsburgh organized a really beautiful Kaddish a mourning prayer for a half hour in the Jewish neighborhood on Shabbat. Which means a lot of Jews are walking around seeing us do this, and it was a half mile from the Tree of Life Synagogue. It was the same corner where they had done many different vigils, grief rituals, and other things around the white supremacist murders at the Tree of Life only a little over two years ago. So it just felt really powerful to be there and say that we understand because of our own traditions of mourning, why those traditions actually compel us to be in solidarity with other people and their pain. When they’re sick, or dying or after death. And it actually… it isn’t just those traditions don’t just apply to us, they compel us to be here for other people. It was very beautiful.
So I want to say just to wrap this up with Jewish anarchists… because I’ve just been watching around I think it’s like a lot of anarchists, but Jewish anarchists have been really throwing themselves for Palestinian solidarity forms of direct mutual aid, and doing a lot of really beautiful speaking and writing and organizing. Again, very visibly. And I think that’s a change. It’s a real palpable change this time. Not just Jewish anarchists. But there’s a sea change in the kind of incredible attachment to Zionism, among Jews, and I feel like Jewish anarchists… I’m proud in a way that we’re at the forefront, because we’re anti-statists. So I guess the last thing to say is… I think the difference of what Jewish anarchists bring to this moment is that we bring the things we’re speaking like it isn’t just the State of Israel, it’s all states! It isn’t just colonialism in this region, It’s colonialism everywhere! It’s not just occupation here, et cetera, et cetera.
And the last thing I want to say is a form of critical solidarity that said, “we will be in solidarity with the Palestinians to become liberated. And when people are liberated, we understand how liberation has often gets perverted into states and ends up doing exactly what people want it to liberate themselves from. And we will be in solidarity and when people liberate themselves, we will be in solidarity with those who are then looking for forms of autonomous self determination that are outside states.”
TFSR: Yeah, that seems so important because in addition to the way that people talk about the responsibility of Jews to speak out against Israeli state violence against Palestinians, then you add the responsibility of anarchists to provide a take on these situations, that’s also anti-state. That was solidarity… but not saying “well, we need to support anything that’s going to be against that state.” Some leftists or state communist type people will like just take whatever side is against the US or Israel. So it’s a more nuanced approach. And I think that’s… I’m really glad you brought that up. To think about those two things kind of overlapping and the Jewish anarchist response.
CM: You know, there’s also anarchists who aren’t Jewish, who are doing profoundly beautiful work right now. In terms of creating all sorts of actions, beautiful actions, direct actions and other forms of organizing. But I’ve really appreciated at this moment, where in a way maybe the responsibility… The mosque that was being targeted during Ramadan. I was breaking my heart for my Muslim anarchist friends and Muslims in general that were having to have the Ramadan hurt. But some of my friends were Muslim anarchists. I understood the meaning of them trying to do Ramadan in different ways that are outside often the normative ways that get done in Muslim communities. Doing it in anarchistic ways. And also the pain of that during a pandemic. And then to have that sacred space be turned into a war zone.
But I really… that mosque just really touched me as an anarchist. Because I’m like, “here is a space. That’s a sacred site.” It was a sacred site for all different peoples. Centuries and centuries ago. And it’s because of a state and colonialism, it’s been turned into this horrible battleground, right? So in a way as Jews, for us to say Jewish anarchists have a special relationship to say “could we envision a time when we could come to different forms of solidarity again?” Across our various understandings of our of who we are and stop essentializing it.
So I guess that’s my last thing I think Jewish anarchists bring really to this moment is looking at people is deeply, fully human and messy and flawed. And instead of just going “The Palestinians” being like, “there’s a range of viewpoints within the Palestinians!” There’s a range of viewpoints… and there’s no category that is some essential… pure… right? I feel like Jewish Anarchists have been helping against this sort of essentialist politics. Which leads more toward fascistic forms of thinking when you just flatten people out to one category, instead of seeing the fullness of people and being in solidarity with them through moments and then through other moments being again, in critical solidarity. I think that’s a much more respectful way to look at each other as full human beings and see the pain.
Even the solidarity demo I went to was just so beautiful because I was just watching… it was kind of… the people hosting it were more liberal… you know? I’m still glad we went. But they were so sweet about anyone that came up and wanted to talk and I was really struck by people just wanting to come tell their stories of their relationship to that place called Jerusalem. It was a very moving to listen to people’s histories and personal stories of their connection. And then not wanting it to be both an occupation, a battleground, and a state. A place where the state and settlers are engaging in it… you know?! Human is a flawed term. But anyway, from a very experiential thing where it broke across these kind of barriers. Anarchists seem often good at doing that, in a way where we’re able to see kind of the messy fullness. And Jews are definitely good at that. So combine Jewish anarchist and wrestling with all the complexities in the questions.
TFSR: Yeah, what you said really struck something in me to think about why it would be that Jewish people, specifically Jewish anarchists, who would be positioned in a good way to kind of take apart those essentializing identities. There’s something particular about how the history of Jews in all these different places they’ve been let in and kicked out and harmed and I don’t know… used for things, that allows them to think about identity… for us I guess… to think about identity differently than we get told to from our dominant culture. That that’s really exciting idea. I don’t know if you have any other thoughts about that, like why we’re as Jews and Jewish anarchists in such a good place to kind of articulate identity not as flat or singular thing, a decentralized thing?
CM: Yeah, I mean the more I’ve come back to my own as part of what this Anthology, this sort of resurgence of Jewish anarchism, which just feels so beautiful and moving. I think we’re all in this incredible “we’re so glad to find each other! and we’re so glad to all be like learning so much from each other and challenging!” I like feel so challenged, and in a good generative way, of myself. like “Wait! I never understood that. I understood this!” You know? And so some of it for me is a lot of: “Well, this is who I am” or “This is the culture I was raised in.” And then the generosity of so many people right now who are Jewish anarchists, who … it’s a range of experiences.
But a lot of Jewish anarchists are really going back to Torah, and teaching it in ways often, almost all overwhelmingly, well, maybe it’s the people I hang out with. They’re trans and queer Jewish anarchists. And I think there’s something to this, like when you go back and you start looking at the text. I’m no scholar in this yet, but I’m really enjoying going and scrutinizing. The whole structure is intended to be a communal, educational, ongoing investigation and you have all these things written down, but then it’s this living… it’s intended to be argued with and interpreted and debated and questions are elevated. It intends for you to question.
I keep going back to this word, but I think it’s a really prominent within Judaism is “we wrestle”, you know? We wrestle with everything. And even a friend of mine who does believe in God. I don’t. At one point I said, “I don’t believe in God” and they’re like, “but there isn’t that notion of belief in God.” In Judaism. There’s like a wrestling with what God is in what context, and where, and how that plays itself out because it’s different depending on… there’s a bunch of different names or time periods or context.
But it’s also… “Do you do trust in it?” Like if you start translating some of the words that are originally connected? Do you trust and in some kind of thing that’s greater than us? And I go… “I don’t know?” It’s like all these, it just raises these different questions. There wasn’t, there wasn’t an answer. I don’t know. I just… somehow you combine things that we think are just our cultural things and you say, “well actually even if I’m not religious” let’s say or “I didn’t come through that training. I don’t believe in God, I’m a product of the culture of 1000’s of years of people that have used those tools to keep together.” So I don’t know, somehow that you bring that to anarchism, which is also about questioning everything and not believing in authority.
I think that the two together work really well because there are plenty of Jews that will still believe in authority and will wrestle with and debate and raise all these questions in order to solidify authority whether it’s justified or not. But there’s very conservative and hierarchal forms of Judaism. But then anarchism is questioning hierarchy, and you bring those two together, and it’… Yeah. I don’t know. I think there’s something. I still don’t even know what the answer is to it. But there’s so many stories within Judaism and the Jewish experience and Jews throughout history that have had to rebel and had to figure out ways, it’s just, it’s also just so prevalent.
So many Jews have had to become, or desire to become rebels or resist the dominant culture, because the dominant culture mostly did not, and still doesn’t in a lot of ways accept. Whatever the rationale for why you need the state is because we’ve been pushed out across the world, most Jews have never had citizenship or been parts of states or been protected by them, or before that empires! We’ve all we’ve been our own autonomous communities for most of our history until the very recent history. The State of Israel is so young. It’s such a baby, right? And it’s not the whole, it’s such a minor part of Jewish understanding of how you stay together. And in a very anarchistic way before that.
TFSR: The state is a relatively new invention anyway.
CM: I mean, I guess maybe for even for this idea that Jews connecting, I was saying protection. Okay. Yeah. So, I understand at some point most people that face enslavement and displacement, and genocide, and destruction of all their institutions, their languages, etc. At some point we’ll turn to trying to figure out ways to protect themselves. And Jews have engaged in a variety of ways to protect themselves. Some Jews thought that the state would protect them. Others of us like anarchist Jews understand that states do not protect us. But I get how…you know. I think one thing that gives us stuff specially positioned to understand that states don’t… we understand that almost nothing has protected us. And that we have to protect ourselves. And other communities have experienced that too, not specifically just Jewish. If you’re Black and Jewish. If you’re Black, other communities…indigenous, or indigenous and Jewish, a whole bunch of other categories of people have experienced that.
When you combine that again: Jewish with anarchism, there’s a special … we’ve been pushed across all borders. We don’t really belong to any nation states. Whenever there’s been moments of mass antagonism toward us. It’s turned into violence. We’ve only pretty much… sometimes other people protect us, but they’ve been people, not states. Communities, not states. And that, in a way, is beautiful, too, right? It’s like we figured out how to protect our community. Self defense and community resilience. And now you have this moment. I think that our Jewish anarchists, feel such affinity with people who are like…. the Palestinians that are like… we were having to figure out how to protect ourselves, and we know how to protect ourselves, and we know how to resist and we’ve been doing this now for a while. And in a way, there’s this recognition of like “we get that that’s what you have to do to keep your community together.” Yeah, because most Palestinians are in diaspora now, too, right?
TFSR: Yeah. Yeah. That’s a good point. And it’s interesting because that main narrative of the necessity of the State of Israel to protect the people often blinds people to the fact of what’s going on between Israel and the Palestinians, where it has such a reminiscence to the things that the Jews have experienced from violent states in the past. I really would like also, just to go back… One thing I heard and what you were saying was like the idea of… instead of belief in God,like wrestling with God made me think about, committing to wrestling with God and committing to the question. Its also like the way to enter just sort of commit to the struggle as, like not an endpoint that we’re going to reach, but something that we have to keep doing and keep asking. So that we can always counter where power starts to collect and do its thing.
CM: Yeah, but you know in a way… I think why it’s been really increasingly powerful to me as, a like, non binary, queer, Jew and an anarchist is to bring all these things together. But within anarchism, we do wrestle as anarchists with things all the time. Constantly! Like, okay, there’s a pandemic, let’s wrestle with what this means now and how the world’s going to shift and what we should do to respond. But we don’t really have places that bring us together to do that regularly. I know a lot of us are, myself included, are grappling with… this has been a hellish or one of the most hellish 13 or 14 months, a lot of us are… collective trauma. A lot of us are doing really badly. As anarchists, I know, all of us need to be talking about it, and thinking about it. And working through wrestling with what just happened to us. And we’re not. There’s no place to go to do that. And as a Jew, who’s an anarchist, I know I have places to do that, because Judaism for 1000’s of years, Jews have survived.
Jews have been around almost 6000 years or 1000’s of years. Any diasporic peoples in a way that haven’t been protected by states or empires or, you know, church hierarchies, have figured out how to create community without states. Yeah, and have kept their culture together without a state. And part of that within Judaism is a really intricate amount of ritual and holidays and time and creating time for things. And so I was especially struck by it this year, maybe because this year has been so hard, but during Passover, eight days, you don’t necessarily celebrate every day, but that time period asks of us, and it has for 1000’s of years, to get together and for hours wrestle with the story of what it meant to be enslaved, what it meant to engage in forms of resistance and direct action to get out of that. And then to leave and not know where you’re going. To be liberated, but not free.
The first moment in this year, it really struck me, was to create this temporary space to start bringing people together. And that felt sacred, that we could begin to sort of process it and heal from it. Feel whatever! I’m not gonna describe it religiously, but some people might. This space that… like as anarchists I mean… here, we are in Asheville, and yesterday, you and I went to Firestorm: anarchist feminist queer collective bookstore, 13 years birthday party in a park. I’m visiting. For a lot of us it was the first time we’ve been with queer, feminist, anarchists together in this beautiful space of celebrating and gathering, which is what our spaces are usually. Right? And it just felt like “Okay, this is what all of us need!” Right?
Within Judaism there’s so many places like that. And so we set up these spaces really regularly in Judaism. During Pesach we come…. Passover, we constantly are debating “So what does it mean to liberate yourself? And then, how do you? In the story, you have 40 days where people are wandering around trying to figure out how to create freedom, or how to begin to understand that? But you really, every year, wrestle with it. Are we good enough to be free? How do we be free? How do we liberate ourselves? Do we do a good job of it? Blah, blah…
And this year, the conversation I went to online about it, someone pointed out because Jews like to go “Hey! But there’s another piece to the story. You can go a few more pages ahead in the Torah, it talks about how there’s this whole debate about how do you treat slaves well!” And they go “why would we have done that after we just liberated ourselves from slavery?” And it was like, “well, that is a part of wrestling.” If you become the person that suddenly is free, maybe you’re not as free as you think. And what if you start enslaving other people? Shouldn’t you start wrestling with why you’re doing it and how you’re treating them? And then maybe you’ll start thinking “Hey, this isn’t what we want to be doing.” So we have this really nice conversation about how does sometime liberation turned into the opposite? Which is exactly what’s happening right in the State of Israel.
And I’m just like, “Okay, this is why as a Jewish anarchist I’m just really appreciating spending more time within radical Jewish circles.” In one person’s conversation, [they] said “Why do we think even as radicals and queers…. “ (they weren’t anarchists in this space, but it was definitely a queer space, radical space…) “Why do we think what it’s telling us in this passage is that all humans have the capacity to enslave other people.” And if we don’t continually revisit that, remember that, and reject it. We’re prone to doing it again. More than if we forget to talk about each year. And I thought that, “I feel like anarchism needs more…” It needs grief rituals for when things happen our communities instead of maybe it happens sometimes maybe it doesn’t. It needs holidays outside of capitalist time. There’s such a richness within Judaism of ways to create community without states ways to create solidarity without states.
TFSR: Yeah. And also like practicing, almost like practicing conflict, in a way, like the arguments and the reinterpretations…. in a way that doesn’t divide s community up. Or tear everything apart or make you enemies. There’s so much arguing and disagreement that is actually a richness rather than a problem or something to run away from.
CM: A lot of Jewish anarchists are very generous people. It’s really interesting. It’s because Judaism, there’s such a compulsion, you need to be studying and teaching and learning all the time to whole your life that’s completely another value within Judaism. The reason there’s so much sacred out of capitalism time in Judaism is meant used to spend time studying and learning and teaching and sharing ideas. And so, I was mentored by and learned a lot from Murray Bookchin. And he was very generous. Another Jewish anarchist. Murray was such a lovable and such an intense… So Jewish! Eastern European Jewish. Ashkenazi Jew. But like when I first met him, he was like encyclopedic, his mind was just like, amazing. The first year I was like, “Okay, I know, there was critiques of his ideas, but I can’t [argue], like he’s just… I can’t figure out the way…” And then when I did and start arguing with him… he loved that.
And everyone was kind of scared because he really argued intensely. But then when I started we became … in a way…. I feel like that’s we broke through and had a loving relationship. when I would argue back… could finally argue back. He was teaching me to be able to argue back with him, even though it pissed him off. It’s kind of like, “I don’t want you to disagree with me, but I want you to argue with me. But that’s how all of us feel,” you know? Like, I want to argue things! But then I understood within, like Bookchin and a lot of his argumentative style, you could on the one hand find there’s a host of other reasons… his bitterness, blah, blah, toward the end of his life which I kind of understand the older I get… It’s like, how can we not be? Yeah, I’m not going to get bitter. But you can get tired being an anarchist for a long time, because people don’t stay anarchist for life or a whole bunch of other things.
But Murray had a really great mind about wrestling with ideas. Some phenomena would happen and he would want to debate, and argue it, and think about it, and really intensly! And we’d be almost nose to nose, almost screaming at each other about an idea. And then we would stop I would go “I love you” and hug each other. And that’s so…. at least culturally, how I understand Judaism to me. Yeah. So I never took it as he was upset with me. And I get that I do that sometimes when arguing. And I’m like, I’m not being intense because I’m angry. I’m just enjoying, like, so enjoying that our minds are moving so intensely, because none of us know the answer. And I did appreciate this about Murray. He was like if I teach you nothing else, I want to teach you to think critically, and always imagine something else. Even if he ended up disagreeing with me, that really is what he wanted. That’s such a Jewish thing. I want you to learn to think for yourself. And then I want us to continue to argue and none of us know the answer. And we’re not going to…. always based on the context.
If you look at his body of his work… let’s stick with Murray for a bit. His work is mostly very dynamic. You can disagree with different periods of different shifts. But he’s this… he’s constantly trying to reinterpret his own ideas through lens of society and reinterpret society through the lens of new ideas, bringing in other theorists. Because he’s only one person he didn’t… there’s a whole host of things he ignored and didn’t bring in right? Queer theory, colonialism… you know but what he did was so similar to a Jewish practice of continuing to push yourself and challenge yourself, wrestle and, you know?
As anarchist, I think we could stand to bring in, whether they are Jewish or not, a more generous sense of wrestling with ideas. I create a lot of anarchist spaces where I’m like, let’s all come into the room and pretend none of us know the answer, because none of us do! And have a big conversation about it. I’ve been so perplexed, I’ve tried that experiment so many times. It is really hard to get a roomful of anarchists to set aside with their preconceived notion of the answer they think is right to solving capitalism. I’m like… if any of us knew we would have done… or whatever the question is. And I think it’s so much more interesting to me, and I really am coming to understand this be more than my Judaism and my anarchism is: that it’s actually okay for us to come in with questions, not answers and then together, question the questions and wrestle with them and come out with more questions and maybe a little bit better understanding, that’s probably the best we can hope for. I don’t know. I guess I’m wandering around on different topics, which is another very Jewish trait, you wander around and you come back to somewhere, but a very diasporic trait, you wander around, but you know, kind of where you’re going.
TFSR: No, I love that. I mean, that’s something I share too. And it’s an experience I’ve had to with people that are close to me being like “my wanting to argue about that is love!” It’s not, like anger or anything. And my intensity sometimes can read that way. But I am always wanting that and I love just like having to face the conflict, rather than let it sit. Because that’s when we like get silenced and don’t work together. And I don’t know, it’s much better to work those things through. So I can see that, you know the opening this line of like Jewish anarchism… trying to bring some of that Jewishness into anarchism, too. And it does seem, again, I said this in the beginning of our conversation, but this book seems timely in a way to me because I’ve been part of communities doing the same kind of thing that this book represents. And then, through my conversations with you around the book and meeting more and more people, who are all like “this is a moment to rethink it all.” And so actually a question kind of along that line and going back also to how you’re saying there’s a sea change in terms of like the way that people are starting to distinguish Jewishness from the State of Israel from Zionism… Your book also shows how there’s different forms of Judaism. And like, even what you’re talking about, it’s not a uniform thing is not a one centralized hierarchy of like thought and beliefs. And new book contains all of these counter narratives to those stories. So I was just wondering if there’s more of these kinds of perspectives that you might want to share here. Things that get left out, when we think about what a Jew is, what Judaism is, what being Jewish means… the diversity of the practices that go to make up Judaism?
CM: Yeah, yeah. I’m not sure I can answer that whole question. Because Judaism is… again is so enormous. And there’s so many different understandings of it. I’ll speak to … maybe within the like radical anarchist Judaism that has led to this anthology is like, me generally. Especially before the pandemic, which made it harder, but finally me being like “Hey, I’m just I’m so much more comfortable in the diaspora, being diasporic. Both maybe from my own trauma and ancestral trauma, just this compulsion to move.” I’m realizing that’s part of how I protect myself and safety in a way. But also this way in which diaspora is like making connections and being really intentional about community and scattering seeds. And I don’t know… I like doing that. So for a few years I was just going. When I was in all of these different communities across Turtle Island, and a little bit of other places. It was so striking to me. Suddenly, everywhere I go, people go “Hey, you happen to be staying tonight in a house where everyone’s queer Jewish anarchists! We’re also going to have a Shabbat dinner!” And then you’d sit down, people would start talking about how they’re doing language… Latino and Yiddish language classes or they did a demonstration together as anarchist Jews, or blah, blah. I was “What is going on?!” There’s suddenly… and then I started being looped into friends going, “Hey, we’re gonna start every month meeting up some of us who are queer and trans for Rosh Chodesh.” Which is like the new month and do conversations and rituals around that. Which I’m still doing! And so I thought “okay, something’s going on.” I think that’s one reason I logged in diasporic.
Two is, I really like seeing the bigger picture about trends that are happening. And I was like “something’s going on.” And so then this Anthology… between putting out a call and asking people to write. It’s actually been surprising to me since it’s come out. Almost some things I was intentionally trying to do. Other things have been like this beautiful surprise! So there’re about 40 contributions to it, magical stories, really heartbreaking. A lot of vulnerable, really moving, poignant stories, very honest and open, poems are at work.
And I mean, I definitely had a viewpoint in things that I like. I wanted pieces that were not assimilationist not Zionist, not statist. I want people, all the pieces to be challenging white supremacy, to be anti-colonial. There were things that I without saying that… anti fascism is like a big theme, that are threads through it. But I really wanted people to speak from their own experience and their own trauma. And I think one thing going into this anthology that really struck me is, and maybe it’s because for me, I’m just like, “well, I don’t know what else to do but say the truth of what I see in the world in myself.” Which also feels like I understand coming a lot of my cultural Jewish experience kind of a directness because we put out what we want and we start wrestling with it.
I just realized how many people that are kind of coming in new to both their Jewishness and their anarchism and saying “well, maybe I can do both, and my queerness!” Not everyone in the anthology is queer or trans, but a lot of people are. And a lot of people were like “Who am I to say?” Because, within the wider anarchist and left and radical progressive circles… people see Jews as like, “What do you guys have to complain about? You’re not facing any difficulties. You’re not, you know… you’re fine! There’s no antisemitism, there’s nothing going on. You don’t have any trauma. You don’t have this.” And I was like “I know that’s wrong.” I don’t want our whole story to be one of trauma, but we have profound amounts of trauma ancestrally and contemporarily. From how we’re treated, including as Jews, and there’s still globally but it also in United States, there’s antisemitism is not going away and it shifts and it changes, but it’s not gone. And it can be deadly as we found out as expressed in the anthology. There’s a lot of pieces on the Tree of Life, because that was kind of a pivotal moment that happened during the anthology being produced.
So the differences that struck me in this was I really wanted people to speak to their experiences with a forcefulness and a boldness and not hide that, because I understand that it isn’t a contest. We have just as much stake in fighting white supremacy and fascism. Because white supremacy and fascism are fundamentally anti-Semitic. See Jews as other. See us as a threat to white supremacy. A threat to states. And we are! I want them to. But I also understand that they target us as people they want to kill. Right? I’m not saying it’s all the same. The history of anti blackness is not the same as a history of antisemitism, or anti indigenous understandings, or anti… all the other anti’s that are part of the founding of… let’s just say, the United States. But there’s a pretty serious connection between them all, there is a very powerful and real connection between them all. And our fights, our fates are linked, our liberation is linked, our pain is linked.
And so to come back to your question on the differences. I want people to be like “it’s okay to say that. It’s okay to say that.” Because, I really felt the pain of a lot of Asians lately. A very flattened out category, because I know that does not encompass all the diversity within that phrase. So my apologies for using that as a shorthand for Muslims or other people that go “why don’t we get named as often?” Or “why don’t people see us?” Or “Why do people buy into the stupid stereotypes that make it seem like we’re not in the bullseye of fascism or the state or hate or all these other things.” Right? And that pain of like, I know, we can’t just have a laundry list of things. So I wanted this anthology to humanize. I feel like when people see pain, each other’s pain, they understand colonialism has stolen a lot from all of us. Capitalism has stolen, the state has. That pain feels similar even if the histories are different and through that pain, we can understand that the way to lessen those losses and create liberation. Freedom is going to be a shared struggle.
But the experience in this anthology, to come back to that question, really surprised me after reading. So many people want to write about their relationship to coming to spiritual practices. Whether that was going to Rabbinical school, or embracing trusts in God or understandings of God. There’s that which in another Jewish anarchist book wouldn’t have gotten there. And there’s a profound amount of sort of wrestling with spirituality and rituals and other huge… people engaging in a lot of ritual. Different understandings of how you can use it as a personal practice or a political practice or combination there of. I think it also shows the spectrum of people coming in through, and what their relationship to Judaism was, whether they were raised to be religious or not religious or Zionist or not Zionist. Or whether they were Jewish or converted or not. How they came to it. I really wanted people stories to be their own unique stories to really show that it isn’t there isn’t this one path there never is.
But I really wanted that to be like… the differentiation of our experience is a strength. Not just Jews. In any understand whether we’re queers or feminists or indigenous. But there’s something I think I like showing in anthology is like a dialog that shows you know how difference can not end up meaning that people have to be antagonistic to each other. I don’t know. I’m trying to think of what your question about, like different kinds of Judaism? I don’t know. I think I’m not answering the question as well as like, what different types of Judaism there were in it, because I think a lot of them it’s more an emphasis on how they choose to approach their Jewishness or their Judaism or their political practice.
TFSR: I think you answered again, in a way that I wasn’t expecting. But it’s by having every contributor be forcefully, vulnerably sharing their experience, you show that each person’s experience of Jewishness is different. And yet also kind of is Jewishness right? Or Judaism. So then it’s like, that becomes the kind of multifaceted version. In a way, my question kind of would leave, like, “there’s these different kinds of Judaism and like a, and b, and c” but actually you’re telling me through the book that what we see is that there’s all these different ways. They’re all these strategies, rituals, practices, struggles. And for me reading, it was so helpful as almost like, therapeutically because it’s something that I mean, maybe as you’ve said, my Jewishness is something I’m constantly struggling with. Actually, that made me think some of the stuff you were saying that maybe, in a way, I feel like Israel as the focus, and then the kind of history of the legacy of the Shoah, as a kind of defensive of why Israel needs to be. The same way that we see identities get flattened out, antisemitism, I feel like gets flattened out into this one thing. I could relate to the book a lot of the ways that I’ve been brought back into Judaism beyond just sort of a cultural identity has been through trans Jews and seeing how they … because I’m always like, “I can’t be Jewish and be queer, and be a feminist” and now I’m seeing all of these trans Jews finding ways to do ritual, and in the book there’s one piece that I thought was so beautiful about hormones, like a ritual, a Jewish ritual around having your hormone shot. So for me I was wrestling with that my own internalized antisemitism of the fact that I couldn’t be like anarchist and Jewish or queer and Jewish. And one of your pieces in the book that I found really important and beautiful was heartbreaking is you kind of going through all this sort of everyday antisemitism. I think non-Jewish people don’t realize that like we as Jews face … all the time. And I wonder if you can talk a little bit about that, the experience of sort of mundane antisemitism, not like the big violence, but even in like left spaces that should be on the side of Jews. If you have some thoughts about that you would like to share.
CM: Maybe it speaks to all the different experiences like… or what I was saying about wanting people to be able to speak directly to their experiences, because I’ve had so many experiences where in general, people do not see antisemitism or take it seriously. Like the January 6th Capitol assault being very recently… the far right, we have explicitly a whole bunch of symbols, explicitly antisemetic symbols and words and practices. Because white Christian supremacists, evangelical prayer as part of it, which I feel like is an assault against all sorts of things that aren’t white, that aren’t Christians supremacist. But there was very little conversation about antisemitism or Q Anon, or all these recent phenomena. A lot has shifted, where abolition is being named, or anti Blackness is being named, or white supremacy. And that’s a phenomenal leap, because those things were not being named. But antisemitism still, it’s almost never spoken.
And for years being in radical spaces, it’s almost like… antisemitism-lite in this sort of sense. “Antisemitism isn’t real because you all have power.” And that’s at the heart of a lot of the conspiracy theories, right? The Jews are behind the scenes pulling the strings. So when you’re in leftist or anarchist spaces and people are basically saying, “We don’t need to hear from you because you have all the benefits of society.” And I’m like “we’re also anarchist for a reason!” And we’re talking about the liberation of freedom of everyone and hierarchy. I mean we can look in every category of people that are seen as oppressed or targeted people and find some people that have better off situations. So I think it’s this mythology that Jews are somehow both all fine and have lots of power.
I just kept thinking how much that hurts is when you needed people to come to your aid because you were being targeted for antisemitism. And nobody… people just got angry at you or laughed at you, or went on with what they’re doing and ignored it. The pain of how that feels no matter what our identities are, right? And the peril to me as I understand is you can keep ignoring it until something awful happens. So one of the stories that I talked about that is [when] we happen to be in Pittsburgh, and some swastikas were painted on anarchic spaces a week or so before the Tree of Life synagogue murders. It’s not a direct relationship but you know, those two spaces made a choice not to tell anybody it happened and to buff it over. To not publicize it. To not take it seriously. To not warn even the people that use that space, some of whom are Jewish, and they know that! Or queer! So this way in which “Oh, that doesn’t mean anything and we’re not gonna take it seriously.” And then a few days later, white supremacists walks into a clearly labeled Jewish space.
As Jewish anarchists we get that it’s all these things are dangerous, right? I used a quote at the beginning from a piece I really like called Feminism Hurts by Sarah Ahmed She talks about how patriarchy hurts because it’s still happening, you know? And so I really liked that piece. It’s feminism hurts or feminist hurts. I can’t really remember the exact title. But she talks about all these little moments that happen in your daily life if you’re treated as female or treated as hetero-normative. That the patriarchy just makes all these assumptions and you keep trying to tell people about them. People don’t take them seriously because they’re like, “Oh, that’s just someone…” There’s just all these little things you can almost not get words to.
And I was trying to show in a way with antisemitism. A lot of us who are Jews have just had so many experiences. I’m like questioning, thinking we eat odd foods, to joking about practices, to not taking seriously when people like are treating us with antisemitism. And then now I think another reason why there’s a resurgence of Jewish anarchism is because there’s a resurgence of fascism around the world and we viscerally understand. So many of us have parents or grandparents or know people that survived Pogroms or Shoah or other attacks more contemporaneously. And I think people think it’s like the some far off distant thing and I think it’s not… I don’t know if to call it antisemitism but this way and not taking seriously. The pain is when people kind of go “You don’t understand what it means to have your people tried to be killed off by structures” and I was like, “I mean it’s horrible that the Holocaust industry, whatever you want to call it, turned it into almost a parody.” I don’t know where.
In the State of Israel was using it. But that was like a massive genocide and it wasn’t just Jews. It was Roma peoples, and queers, and people with disabilities, and all the anarchists pretty much. It wiped out so many people. But underpinning that was antisemitism. So you can’t understand especially in German forms of fascism, national socialism, you can’t de-link antisemitism from it. But even contemporarily now, in the last four years, the number of like, all the neo-Nazis in the swastikas you still don’t hear people talk, like suddenly that’s completely de-linked from this history of antisemitism. And as someone who’s Jewish that feels so disturbing. I don’t understand how you can stop saying Nazis have anything to do with an anti semitic logic and they have it in the room. I mean, we can go into the analysis of like “what does it mean theoretically, antisemitism” or “what does it mean historically?” But there’s just a pain in which people not taking it seriously when not that long ago, they were trying to annihilate every single Jew in the entire world, including every single space and every single book and every single grave, and there was going to be one museum left that had pieces of Jews… so you could go look and see to show how weird Jews were. That was the end result of it, you know.
It’s like, even if that didn’t happen, which it didn’t. I don’t understand why that pain doesn’t…. Of course we have pain, you know?! I was thinking I saw this thing the other day (I copy edit books for a living) it was in a book. Totally unrelated… Just a little tidbit about the schools in New York when there was a wave of immigration or a lot of Jews trying to get away from Pogroms before Shoah and poured into New York City especially, and had really huge Jewish communities. A lot of them spoke Yiddish and the public schools in New York were like “we will not allow Yiddish to be spoken in the public schools.” And so they would wash the kids mouth out with soap if they spoke Yiddish. They would punish them. And it’s not equivalent history. There’s the pain of being like “I lost Yiddish.” My Great Grandparents spoke Yiddish. And my dad spoke it, and he wanted to teach me. He was really young. And I was like “why do I want to learn this language?” Because they screamed at each other all the time in it so I wouldn’t understand what they were yelling at each other. But now I’m like “that language was intentionally killed off by the State of Israel officially, and the Nazis were trying to destroy it.” And then you have a contemporary history in New York and I think about the residential school history. It’s not the same history. I’m not but where we’re going to take indigenous children away, and we’re going to beat their languages out of them, like, quite literally.
And the pain of people losing their languages. That’s a pain. And there’s so much more that happened in those residential schools that is horrible and painful that continues to this day. And for us to understand that, again, I really want to come back to that the pain I feel over loss of language. And a lot of this research as a queer Jewish anarchist. It’s like “let’s relearn languages.” There’s many different kinds of Jewish languages. And same with indigenous languages. And the beauty of relearning them is, you tell different stories about the world, you understand the world differently, you reconnect to the natural world. Because language has all, diasporic and indigenous languages have a connection to the natural world in a way that a lot of dominant colonial languages don’t. And you understand that we come from a pluralism of people that didn’t know borders, that knew sharing space together in different ways….
I don’t want to romanticize indigenous peoples or Jewish peoples or any diasporic peoples. Peoples had conflict. People had asocial behaviors, people have things that… community riffs, etc. But they had all sorts of rituals and structures and ways without carceral logics. Without states without colonizers. To deal with them in a totally different ways. And if we bring back even those languages, let’s say we will have different words for understanding how to deal with things, conflict in our community, that isn’t about prison industrial complexes, for instance.
So, to come back to emphasize antisemitism hurts on this really personal level. And I want people to take it seriously because the more… when the Tree of Life happened, I went to this beautiful solidarity rally, but I know a lot of, almost all, the solidarity rallies that happened made this huge connection to white supremacists are coming into Jewish spaces and killing people that they can clearly see are Jewish. They’re coming into black churches, they’re going into mosques. They’re going into places where they can find the people that they think are who needs to be eradicated.
I think the resurgence of this new Jewish anarchism is like a lot of people are starting to wear visible signs of being Jewish, Kippahs and embracing how they look and embracing practices in public spaces that clearly signal. Holding up a sign that says “I’m a Jew at a demonstration.” Two years ago, I know a lot of my friends were scared to do that because of the fear of being targeted by white supremacists. And now, we should be able to do that, right? I don’t want us to have to hide any more than anyone else should have to hide who they are. So people not seeing the antisemitism within…
To come back to that lastly it really has been painful to me. I expect antisemitism is in the world. And I know most people don’t see it or take it seriously. But what’s painful is when your own community doesn’t. In the same way when my own anarchist community doesn’t take patriarchy seriously, or doesn’t take forms of hierarchy seriously. It pains us extra because we’re like, “but we should know better.” It’s not any worse, I would say, but it’s more painful. And I think the last thing I learned is that a lot of Jewish anarchists have this really weird fear of when push comes to shove… who’s going to protect us? We are going to protect everyone else. Like anarchists are really good at protecting each other and other communities… mutual aid and solidarity.
But I think part of the trauma of being a Jew is history has not been on our side. We have had by and large to protect ourselves way too many times. And whether that’s a false narrative or just a feeling or trauma… but you know, it brings that up for me in my anarchist communities, if you don’t take antisemitism seriously now and it’s just someone being a jerk to me about it in a public space. What happens when, you know, they come into our Jewish spaces and kill…. People say “Okay, yeah, fine, still, it’s only a synagogue. It’s only Jews.” I don’t know, I think even to some degree, the Tree of Life… there’s a couple really poignant pieces in the book. There’s a bunch about the Tree of Life. But there’s some about Charlottesville and other moments where, you know, fascist were yelling, blatantly antisemetic phrases, or targeting synagogues. And no one was thinking to protect those spaces or taking seriously again, those slogans.
The hurts! Of course it hurts. But it just doesn’t hurt it has consequences in terms of who’s going to ultimately get killed or targeted when it gets worse. And I think unfortunately, it’s going to get worse again. Like that Capital assault was just the beginning of a euphoria from what they know their capable of… White supremacy, and White nationalism, Christian evangelicalism, White supremacists know what they’re capable of and I feel like the reorganizing. It has not gone away.
So in this moment if we could take more seriously anti-Asian, anti-brown people, anti-Black people, anti-indigenous, the anti-queer, anti-disabled, anti-Jew, anti-Muslim, and say “Okay, this isn’t just a fucking laundry list. This is our lives.” And that “We care a lot about each other and that we have shared pain, and that we have marvelous…” I guess that’s what I want to say with the anthology is a lot of stories of pain. In the Shoah, I think that’s also the other problem is like “Oh, this whole stupid narrative. The Jews went to their death, like sheeps!” Total crap. There’s so much resistance. You know, it wasn’t just the Warsaw Ghetto, which is an amazing story. If you read the story, it’s a gripping story, because there was a lot of socialists and anarchists organizing that went into that. But there was all sorts of acts of resistance by Jews and non Jews, but especially including Jews during that time period that has gotten erased.
A beautiful book, I just remembered the other day again is Blessed is the Flame – about what resistance looks like. When you’re at the last moment when you’re about to be, you know, shoved into the crematorium or something. I read about 100 autobiographies of people who barely survived Shoah and each of them talked about what resistance is possible when almost no resistance seems possible. And that’s what the Blessed is the Flame is about. And yet people still resisted. And we still are. But we resist in ways that also are about resilience and joy and beauty and creating life. So a lot of the forms of resistance that happened, as why I point to this book Blessed Flame, but also looking at a lot of these autobiographies and what people did was they wanted to have a Shabbat before they knew they would be killed in a concentration camp, or they wanted to write down their name to keep or some or things they wanted to keep alive. The spark of the beauty of how they understood their Jewishness or their Judaism or their rituals. It wasn’t, you know, just trying to pick up arms or trying to do other forms of direct action or blowing up a crematory – which were good, incredible forms of resistance that happened too. But yeah, just the way in which even in the worst moments people want to create life. Because that’s what we do… and beauty.
So this anthology is full of all these Jewish anarchists. “Okay, the world’s really bad right now we’re facing fascism and ecological ecocide and now this pandemic, and capitalism…” There’s so many things that are so overwhelming, and we’re going to do it as joyfully and beautifully and lovingly and resiliently and queerly as we can till the last, very last moment, and that is resistance. You know? That is resistance because they don’t want us to live. Us living is resistance. But us living… I don’t mean just like surviving, I mean, trying to thrive, to love. There’s a lot of really beautiful pieces like that.
I am diverging off the antisemitism part. But maybe coming back to the queerness and the trans-ness, I think I wanted people with this anthology to see both the pain and the beauty. And so with antisemitism, you can see here’s the pain, but the beauty of it is, there’s a lot of Jewish anarchists that are doing beautiful anti fascist resistance. And they’re using their rituals as part of that, or their wisdom and their queerness and trans-ness. Part of that I’ve been really struck by is that there’s another thing have been stolen from us and indigenous people and Black people and a whole bunch of other people who have been made diasporic and colonized and destroyed by states… we’ve had a lot of things stolen from us, like elasticity and dynamism in gender.
Within Judaism from the beginning, there’s all sorts of ways, there’s stories of people without pronouns, and there’s five or six different ways of understanding gender, and there’s a lot of spaces. A friend of mine was talking me recently about how trans-ness, or non binary people, non conforming people are often associated with Twilight. Within Jewish writings… with liminal spaces, with in between spaces, and they are considered the most holy and the closest… if you believe again in some kind of holiness framework. Because they have the most ability to see in a way.
In a way, bringing Judaism, and queerness, and anarchism, and trans-ness together creates a wider frame to see more. You know? Non-binary people, you’re not stuck in this box. You see a spectrum that so much more beautiful and offers so much more possibility. And so we see antisemitism, we see anti-Blackness, and we bring those together… we’ll see a better way to struggle against it. But we’ll also see all the practices we share. They’re so beautiful. How we’ve kept communities together without states, and how we’ve done community self defense without police. How we resolve conflict without cops. We’re not going to have to expropriate from each other steal from each other. We can learn and borrow from each other. We can share land together without having to be a state.
There’s plenty of diasporic people of all different genders and colors, and indigenous or non indigenous, that had all sorts of ecological and harmonious relationships with land and using it for different seasonal harvesting or gleaning or commons.. We’ll have so much more wideness of a lens, and I think that’s why I want people to see both how much we’ve lost as Jews. How much has been stolen from us, and how much we’ve been devastated over the centuries. It just widens the lens with each moment in history and there’s more.
I just learned this thing recently about the witch trials, I love Silvia Federici’s book – as a lot of people do – about the witch hunts been this massive way to kill off healing arts, and mending arts, and queers, and non binary and feminists in a way to rein in massive amounts of queer women, healer people murdered in the name of being witches. And then I overlaid that recently by learning about how much of that was tainted with antisemitism and potentially why some of the understandings of what witches look like because people equated them with Jews. A lot of antisemitism that led into who got killed during that time period. That only broadens the horror of that moment. And gives us more understanding, especially as queer anarchist Jews to be like “Wow, of course, we’re going to fight against those things with other people.” And we’re going to try now. There’s a whole bunch of Jews that are doing healing arts, grief rituals, and mending rituals. Because we’re reclaiming this beautiful thing that was killed off at this moment. 500 whatever years ago.
TFSR: You bring up a lot of really, really interesting, important parallels, in listening to you. Thinking about how… this is making connections in my brain. I connect like the kind of State based thinking with the kind of like universalism of Christianity in ways that tries to narrow our…. make our narratives uniform. That’s what cuts out the histories of resistance both with like Jews or Black resistance during the time of slavery. It makes it seem like this like simple thing. In a way I connect that with “leftist spaces” where they’re, like “look like your particular problem as a Jew – with like antisemitism that can come later. We’ll deal with that later. Because there’s more pressing issues right now.” I’m not saying that we should be playing the oppression Olympics, but to secondarize whatever kinds of experiences of oppression that we have based on like embodiment, or like perception. I think there’s the history of antisemitism going back. You know, it’s completely entwined with the development and the subtilization of oppression that comes with like the formation of the state and the development of capitalism and markets. I don’t think we can disconnect that from all the other things. Again, there’s always like, risk in analogizing. You’ve been very careful to say “it’s not the same what happens to different groups of people, but…” And I really like the connection you made with feminism because like with Sarah Ahmed too, like she talks about being like a kill-joy. My internalized antisemitism… sometimes I’m like, even just bringing up antisemitism is like “Oh, that’s like an annoying Jewish thing to do.” You know what I mean? And it’s so prevalent because people are ignorant of how much antisemitism is just basically woven into… implicit antisemitism is woven into our lives. Even just thinking Jews are powerful and therefore can’t be experiencing kinds of oppression because there’s been some kind of assimilation. That was really helpful to me to kind of tie these things together and I thought you did a really…. just bringing those parallels up was important and kind of building off the resistance and ritual…that’s something else that really struck me from your book from various writers. You have mentioned a few times how the kind of horrors of the Tree of Life massacre kind of shadow the book and there’s a lot of responses to that. Your previous collection of Rebellious Mourning is about grief and mourning. So I was wondering if you wanted to talk a little bit about like Jewish rituals as forms of resistance or even direct action. One of the things that gets talked about in the book is particularly mourning and sitting Shiva as a kind of communal thing. So I don’t know if you have more that you want to say about that. But I would really love to hear more of the kind of Jewish resistance.
CM: Yeah, I think for variety personal reasons have been really drawn to loss, grief and mourning, but also because it’s a part of life, you know? And as queers, anarchists, and Jews, and other identities, they’re probably listening to this. We know, we are gonna experience a lot of loss. And so how do we handle that? We want to lessen unnecessary loss. And we want to… I don’t know, skipping over it doesn’t make it go away. And not using it as a form of instrumentalness, but to both allow us to fully begin the journey of processing it so we don’t…. people need each other to do that. Otherwise it is almost impossible to ever kind of integrate. Grief doesn’t go away, you just have to integrate it in ways that allow me to journey forward with your grief in a better way.
What I love about Jewish grief traditions, just to focus on those. Traditions around sick, dying, and post death… I think they all pretty much ask of you to do it in community. And so you’re not supposed to leave a body alone that is dead, until it is properly buried. Is that possible? I think that’s why the grief of when police murder people and the bodies are left in the street… The horror of that! It is horrifying. It’s horrifying for the people that know that person and love them. It’s horrifying for those…
I’ve been around many of those, unfortunately, watching those bodies for hours in the street, and the indignity. There’s so many levels, it feels horrible. Then denying people the capacity to be with that body and stay with that body. Right? And do it in community so they can process it. And I think why those moments when the police do that. That felt horrible and powerful to people is that you stand there for hours together and you create your own sort of communal space of helping, I’m gonna just wash the time again, you can see the pain and people instinctively want to be with other people. To be there for the friends and the family to help them process the horror of this for that moment and not skip ahead.
And Daunte Wright… I was just struck by that, because I love Unicorn Riot when they’re right at the scene at the very beginning and some other live streamers right when he was first murdered. I would just watch for hours where people were like “Before we go to the police station, we have to sing songs to the ancestors” which they did. “We have to circle the body and be here with it, we have to write.” And so what I appreciate within Judaism, is it’s understood for 1000’s of years we need… we don’t want people to be murdered by police. There’s also a long history of Jewish songs and tradition. Jews have not liked police for a long time. We want to get back to a time when we can stay. It gives you things that are already there to turn to that makes sense, right?
It’s like you should be with a body, but also sitting Shiva is 7. Shiva means 7. It’s like when someone you have a loss or someone dies, you’re supposed to, as a community, stay together for seven days and talk and laugh and cry and eat and sing and be there. And if anyone has experienced someone who they love dying, you know, especially, I mean, there’s so many different things that happen with grief. But that first week, especially, it’s almost just… it’s so unreal and you just don’t know what to do. And the capitalist industry tells you to start worrying about buying things – coffins or arranging funerals. But the beauty in just being with other people is really profound. And knowing that that’s the beginning of the journey.
And then there’s a lot of different traditions, but how do you come out of that week? There’s a lot of intentionality. One thing I’ve heard was like, with people, you walk outside and you walk around a block together to help you transition back into the world. Okay, so these are such beautiful moments, right? And so a lot of Jews and there’s a whole bunch of other traditions I could go into. But a lot of Jews have been doing a lot, as Jewish anarchists and others, like with the Tree of Life. You know, again, I think it was just because that was people’s practice. It’s like that happened and people started sitting Shiva in the street around where it happened because this is what they do as their practice as the ritual.
And because the community was in pain, and because it’s in a extremely long term Jewish neighborhood. It’s everywhere you walk. Like, it feels powerful to me, because I don’t really ever experience being around lots of things, where there’s so many Jews, you know, even if they’re not all my type of Jews! You see yourself in a way, you know, but yet here they are completely feeling like everyone sort of been a target. And in this neighborhood that’s clearly a target, you can easily find Jews in this neighborhood, and people chose to sit in the street again and be visible and do this grief ritual. Then it became a direct action blockade in a sense too. But I’m not even sure that was, who knows whether that was the intentionality. But who cares! It doesn’t really matter? Right? How do we use these rituals, not in the sense of “We are going to do the Shiva so we can have a blockade!” But be like “We need to be together now, we can’t go home.” We have to be here together.
And then over in Pittsburgh, there was a lot of intentionality for that first year. In Jewish rituals every month you’re supposed to do something, then after the first 11 months, and the 12, then there’s every year, it never ends, if you have someone that dies within Judaism, there are moments to remember that person, because remembering is keeping them alive, and the love alive, and the honoring. So that Jewish anarchist queer community in Pittsburgh was doing like, a lot of monthly and weekly rituals and ceremonies and on the one year did a really beautiful -which I end up coming to – a really beautiful Shabbat, that combined grief rituals, but also, were doing political organizing at the same time. I don’t think they could have if they didn’t have the community to be processing. They don’t have to also happen in the same place.
But when we seen how profound it is… a lot of direct actions lately where people are like “You’re destroying sacred land with pipelines. You’re killing off sacred bodies with your cops.” I think people are creating grief spaces around them, whether they’re doing it explicitly or not, and bringing them because a lot of Jews are going “It’s okay to be both anarchist and Jewish now.” Which is a new thing again, and this is what’s really distinct about this moment. And if you read the anthology it’s so different than any other Jewish anarchism before… and to be spiritual.
That’s been challenging for me, because I’ve never understood myself as religious or even believing in God, or even believing faith or having even spirituality. It’s been really recent. “Oh, that’s just that’s like, you know, higher… That’s something I don’t know.” I just always felt like it’s something outside myself. And then I’m like “No! How can we do we do it ourselves?” Spiritualities, the non-hierarchical ways we are taking these rituals and making them queer, or bringing out the queerness in them or bringing our politics to them and making them anarchist.
Just a couple weeks ago, I was sitting under a beautiful stars with a bunch of queer anarchists in a backyard and we sang for like two or three hours: these beautiful songs about healing and solidarity and resistance and anti cops and under the moon. That’s been Shabbat. We’re waving to the sky change. And then it’s just like “what are we doing?” We’re having an anarchist hang out in the backyard! But we did the Shabbat. Which was lighting candles and every Friday (you’re supposed to for 24 hours, slow down, stop, be with each other, be in community) you know? And again, politically, you’re also with your buddies who are anarchist, and you’re talking about other things. In fact, three days later, we’re making banners to go to the Palestinian solidarity demo.
And because you see each other regularly and you build relationships, and you’re like when things happen, okay, we need to be there. Right? So I don’t know. There is an interrelationship with them. But I think there’s something especially profound this moment where so much of what we’re experiencing is loss and death. And that’s what our resistance is responding to: loss of beautiful forests that we love, loss of human beings to pandemics, loss of, you know, fentanyl, or whatever. We can go on and on about the horrors of what’s happening. And as queer as queers, and as Jews and as anarchists… When you bring all those three identities together, that are all about having to make our own families, or on practices own on communities, each has its own lens, but I think you bring them together and you end up having this like “greater than the sum of their parts” way of understanding how do we create.
I was not able to be integrate my Judaism and my anarchism as much. Both my biological parents, I helped them die. What could have been horrible death and beautiful death. But I inadvertently sat Shiva with in both cases. Because they were both in hospice II type situations, a lot of other people were around. I just hung out there for a week and it was beautiful. But I went, I had to leave the anarchist world because I know the anarchists understood. They’re like, come back when you’re done. I’m like, I don’t understand that I’m gonna be done with grief. And then when I came back I was like “Okay, this isn’t enough.”
As an anarchist, it’s not going to be enough to keep me. I had such a lack of faith in anarchism at that moment. And I think that’s what led me to think “faith is a promise”. It’s not a belief in a god, it’s a faith that you will be there for me when someone’s dying. It’s a faith that we will be there for each other when a pandemic is really hard. We did sort of okay during this pandemic, we also did woefully inadequate as anarchists. As Jews, I think we did better. I think Jewish space that got created was what helped. This has been a horrendous year.
And the spaces that a lot of queer, radical, and anarchist Jews…. there’s a space called Pink Peacock and in Glasgow – this Trans and Queer Yiddish thing. Yiddish anarchist, Jewish anarchist, and they’ve been doing on online Havdalah. It’s very intimate and small. And we have these lovely conversations. I started doing that in a moment when I was unbelievably depressed and didn’t even know if I wanted to live. Just waking up every morning and going “why am I still on this earth” and was at one of the lowest points. And I started going, and the first time I got on the phone, they said “it’s okay to be wherever you’re at,” and I just almost started crying on the phone. And no one, you know… it was in held in a ritual Havdalah, which is another Shabbat and I’ve been going to that for months. I’m like, “okay, they created that space, the ritual to grieve and to find joy again, and to process what was going on”. And anarchists have not been as good at doing that.
Muslim anarchists that I talked to have also profound rituals, and Black anarchists and indigenous anarchists. And I guess I want to ramble on about lots of topics. Part of the pandemic is I like “how do we keep our minds on… I feel so scattered!” What about the pandemic side effects? There’s also a resurgence of Black anarchism and indigenous anarchism. And what I like to think of all in a way is all diasporic anarchism might be a next Anthology. Anarchists that have been people that have been displaced repeatedly and disenfranchised, seen as disposable, are understanding that their own… they’re reclaiming. They’re saying, “Hey, we’re not going to let you take away things from us. And in fact, we’re going to bring those things back in and use them as our power and as our resilience and our as our playbooks and as our way of being this for life.” But it’s making anarchism so much more beautifully complex and sustainable.
I’m more an anarchist each passing year the older. I’m like “Why are anarchists always in their early 20s?” The vast majority of them! Where do all the other anarchist go? It is hard, because there are not the things that keep you in it. But when you’re a Black anarchist, or an indigenous anarchist, or Jewish or Black Jewish anarchist, all the overlapping [identities] where you can go and you can say “Hey, we have traditions! We have rituals!” More and more people bringing those into the spaces of resistance. And we’re bringing our multiple prayers into those spaces of resistance, or multiple grieving rituals.
I’ve been at things where people want to do several of those from different traditions. They all are so similar in a certain way. I’ve used this example before, a lot of diasporic peoples have used different things to make noise because you have to gather people. Jews use Shofar – a ram’s horn. Things you can find in the ecosystems where people were. In Mexico or that part of the world, I just learned, people use big snail shells to call people together. There’s the conch shell! A friend of mine yesterday said… I think it’s in the Gulf region, some indigenous folks and other peoples. Black and indigenous communities use drums…. Indigenous peoples, we’re all in different places. We’re all experienced our own displacements and pains, but we have these rituals and we have these things we do. And when we get together, we’re like, “Oh, that’s cool! We all have these different ways of gathering each other!” We can return to those things together.
But especially I think the sense of what’s sacred at this time on earth is so imperiled. In a way, I think that’s why, weirdly, I think it isn’t just me coming back to the sense of spiritual. Not in a hierarchical way. But a sense of if we don’t understand the beauty and the mystery of the earth and that we’re part of it, and that we actually can’t even explain that. It’s just beautiful. Why do we have to explain it? You know, you’re sitting in a forest with some friends and you’re like “why do you have to explain why this feels powerful?” I’ve done some Jewish anarchist grief rituals in the woods and it’s absurdly beautiful and moving and healing. Why? Because I feel so connected to the ground and we’ve done things, the burning, and rocks, and blah, blah. We need that right now because humanity is destroying the earth and we have to remember our connections. And part of that is remembering this mystery.
The little anecdote about that Shabbat I was telling when we were under the stars? It was almost transcendent where you start singing… If you have ever done that? Just acapella. Your voices start… It’s like so anarchistic… you all kind of know what song you’re gonna do next and which words. Your voices rise and fall, when to start and when to stop. Like how is this organization without hierarchy? Whoo! Your bodies are just feeling really good! All of a sudden I was looking at the stars and was just in this beautiful “I just feel so good! And I haven’t so much of the time!” And then I see this line of lights across the sky and they’re moving and I almost scream and broke the beautiful space we created. Everyone looked up and someone’s like, “Elon Musk, that’s Elon Musk’s satellites!” We all stood for five minutes watching him destroy the sky. I thought, “Oh my god. Jewish ritual asks you to look for three stars at the end of Shabbat to end the sacred 24 hours of a non capitalist time” Time and community time, and here’s Elon Musk that’s taking away the sky.
It’s good to do rituals to remember that we have things to fight for. Things that are beyond us to even understand that we shouldn’t be doing that to, right? Rituals have meaning. They’re not just like woo woo looking at stars, they’re like those are ours to destroy and they aren’t Elon Musk’s to desecrate in capitalism in the name of money and all this other shitty stuff. It makes you want to be radical and resist even more and not have it be that. So they’re interconnected, not an instrumental way.
TFSR: I love how you’re talking about that. One way I think about anarchism… or like, the way I want to talk to people about it who maybe aren’t anarchists yet is to think about all the ways in our lives that the state doesn’t touch us and doesn’t reach us. And really what the history of the state and the capital is like, kind of tearing people away from their life ways from the land and making them dependent on the state (or seemingly dependent on it). But really, there’s all these moments that we don’t have the state in our lives. The way that you’re describing the rituals for all the kinds of cultures, not just Jewish culture is creating a different time in space that isn’t the state that isn’t capitalism. It changes that and that, and the more we do that, we would be making our lives more outside of the state. Doing something else than what we’re expected to do or asked to do. So I think that’s a really powerful way that you describe that.
CM: I watched someone during the “Chinese New Year” this year, they did this really beautiful series of posts about how this is actually not the Chinese New Year. It’s the Lunar New Year. It’s actually not one day, it’s… I don’t remember… I’m going to not say how many days it is because I don’t remember, but it’s multiple days. They said each day has a very specific thing and it’s not, you know… you think about New Year’s. New Year’s has become this ridiculous go get fucking drunk and just have a horrible time. But you’re supposed to pretend you’re happy! That’s not a ritual. That’s like an unthinking, commodified… like Christmas or whatever, all these things!!!
But these rituals that you make your own. The Jewish New Year is also extends over multiple days, and you’re supposed to spend a lot of time reflecting on harm you’ve done to others and harm. You’re supposed to actually gather with the community, if you’re part of one. Jewish anarchists could stand to do this, and other anarchists, once a year, to get together and think about harms that have happened in the community and whether it’s possible… how we dealt with them, how better could we have dealt with them? Should some things be forgiven or not be forgiven? There’s all these moments that are structured into ritual to help us do things that we want to be doing in our anarchist world. What does an abolitionist future look like? Well, we practice it through rituals. We’re going to get better at doing that! Cleaning our space.
These there’s all these rituals that people do there outside of the hegemonic ones. Christmas makes me so agitated and angry, because, you know, what? It’s three months long and it’s nothing but buying things. It’s so dominant. Everybody assumes everyone’s Christian. There’s so many reasons, but it’s even beyond that. It’s like this deadening. It’s not even a holiday or ritual. And when you come back to all these other traditions you realize people did them around harvest times to celebrate the harvest. Around moments to celebrate! There’s a day, the highest day of sorrow, where Jews spend the day thinking about mourning, and then there’s highest days of joy.
A few years ago, before the pandemic, I spent a lot of time in Montreal and some friends and I went to the day when you’re supposed to unroll the Torah scrolls and start again, and I’d never done that before! You take them and dance with them. People were dancing it was really fun. And then when someone said “Oh, let’s go outside and dance!” And my queer Jewish anarchists friends and I were like “Hey! Let’s dance in the street!” Because not everyone was a radical. And then people were all moving in the street and then we’re kind of creating a little blockade. But we were also just dancing, right? It was really fun, you know? And so you were kind of teaching people “Hey, you could actually take over streets.” We weren’t intentionally doing that. It wasn’t like a lesson, but it was just like… “Hey, we’re anarchists, we’re gonna we’re gonna go in the streets.”
There’s a joy in remembering these moments. We can do this on this day. I think this year has been really hard for a lot of us because our little teeny rituals… I realize how beautiful and precious they are and how flimsy they are, you know? Anarchist bookfairs are our sort of like dancing together. I don’t know, we’ve lost those. And I think we need to come back into this time and think more about it. I really want to encourage Muslim anarchist, Jewish anarchists and other Black anarchists, indigenous, brown, all the anarchists that are coming to try to say, “No, I want to be the whole of who I am with this!” And not have to keep those in separate spaces.
Of course, there’s some beautiful about just being with indigenous anarchists to do your thing, or just be with Jewish anarchists. I get the value the power of that too. But if we can all start saying, “Hey!” If we all start reclaiming all the beautiful rituals and holidays and practices and playbooks and trading them, I just think it’s gonna look so different. It’s gonna make our resistance better and our anarchism better too. Our anarchism needs probably more refreshing. It’s actually a much younger tradition than most of those other things I’m pointing to, which have actually had to go through…. much, much longer they have had to be rebellious and exist outside the states. Yeah, much, much longer.
TFSR: Yeah, we’ve been talking for a while. But one question. My questions is in a light hearted spirit, but maybe I don’t know where we’ll go with the answer. One thing that struck me reading this book talking to my people – my queer trans Jewish anarchists, the way that all those things being queer, being Jewish are being anarchists individually often we are like “am I queer enough? I’m not queer enough, I’m not Jewish enough, I don’t know enough about Torah. Am I anarchist enough? Am I committed enough to the struggle? And I just wondered if you hadn’t any thoughts about how these three things? I mean, the book gives us a different image of that for sure. But why do we internalize… or how do we internalize these like… this impossible measurement of like what we should be to really be that?
CM: Yeah, it was funny when you said that. I was like “That’s so true!” Like, almost. I don’t know, almost everybody, especially Jews. There’s something about Jews always going around, “I’m not a good enough Jew!” I don’t know, I feel it. Maybe all of them. Maybe less so with anarchism. I think there’s something nice about that. I don’t know. It’s like, to flip it around. There’s something nice about being humble. We have to always be striving to be good enough to be these things. You know? It’s an honor to be all of them to me. Will I ever be a good enough anarchist? Probably not. But I should aspire to be a better and better one all the time. Especially all three of those, in their own way, have really profoundly beautiful (this is not a universal, because some people say “they are not always welcoming”).
But I think in general, they’re very generous and welcoming and mutualistic and reciprocal. You know, if you say you’re interested in anarchism, people start handing you zines or whatever it is. People really do want to share and borrow. Maybe to flip it around, maybe it’s comes out of humility. It also maybe comes out of… it is really hard to feel enough. Yeah, I don’t know. Maybe I’m just gonna flip it around. Because I think it’s nice think about humility, which I think maybe we need, and just be like “let’s aspire to be better and better at all of them” you know, maybe more… the “not good enough” comes from: it’s hard enough to be all these things in a world that says those things aren’t. Especially like radical versions of Judaism, and anarchism, queerness, that they’re all seen as is not enough. They’re outside of the… so it’s too bad that we have to take on that sort of self doubt about ourselves.
It does become hard to sustain them sometimes. I really hope with this Anthology, and almost everything I do to really emphasize, like, all we really have is each other in the solidarity more than anything to me is… if we don’t stick by each other, we don’t have anything else with each other. Maybe we’ll feel more of enough if we try harder to be there for each other in ways in the fullness of who we are. I don’t know. For me, I want to hear other people point out antisemitism, so it isn’t just Jews. I want to hear people that are not queer. I want everyone to not have to be their own advocate, as it were. So maybe that’s another way we don’t feel enough because we all just feel sort of invisibilized by each other, which I think is sad, you know?
If we were more acknowledged, like, celebratory of each other. But I think it’s really going in that direction. I really do. I feel like the last few years there’s been so much collective trauma, so quickly, targeting so many people. Like every day now almost. The past few years if you think how many white supremacist murders, assaults on people. They pretty much have killed now every category of humanity except themselves.. I think we’re all starting to go into spaces, each time, unfortunately. I don’t want that to happen, for us to see that. Then I start realizing we’re like, “Oh, we are enough because we start seeing each other. We are enough because we’re there for each other.” So, yeah, maybe we’ll start getting past that. When we all try to be more of ourselves to each other too.
TFSR: Well, I’m grateful for you giving me your time to talk for the Final Straw and also it was really exciting to be in an actual space with you, physically together. But also for putting this book together because it did, for me, made me see that I’m not alone and that there’s other people struggling with the same questions and having answers that I would never have thought of. That confirm things that I feel. So the book creates this community too. I think is really important work, so I’m really grateful to you for that. I really like the idea: may we be queerer and more Jewish and more anarchist!
CM: I know! I want to be! May we be more. We have to be more of all of them. Again, what I said I wanted this anthology to be liberatory. Queer liberation. Jewish liberation sounds weird. But I do want like a liberatory-ness within our Judaism and our Jewishness as radicals and anarchists and queers, you know? I wanted it to be bold and beautiful, and assertive in a way of beauty. But not just for Jews, I really, I hope. I’ve been really happy. Because one thing I was trying to do with this was to not just have this be something for Jews, to have the anthology really show interconnections of struggles and identities. Jews are all colors, all languages, all places, there are no borders within Judaism. If we don’t see that enough, we push ourselves harder. I’m not saying that it’s perfect at all. But there is no homogeneous Jew. And that points to this beauty of “we are all things across all borders.” And including beyond just Judaism. So I hope… I feel like it touches people on this other level outside of being a Jewish anarchist.
But I’m also really, really appreciative. I feel the same way. I really want to acknowledge and thank all the 40 or more people that contributed to it. I’ve been really touched by how many people are reading it and saying “Oh wow. I feel. I feel seen for what I’ve been struggling with as a queer, feminist, non binary Jewish anarchists.” Who is trying to be part of this resurgent, beautiful, bold new thing that’s been coming out and creating this of anarchism with other anarchists that are coming to their senses of who they are together. And it’s just really touching to see people. That’s what I want. I want us all to see ourselves. The fullness of ourselves more. That’s the title. There’s Nothing So Whole as a Broken Heart. We’re all so brokenhearted by this world because we should be. But I want us to be whole in that too. So I’m loving that you and other people are responding to it that way.
TFSR: Well, thank you so much.
CM: Thank you so much for having me on this.
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i’m sorry i don’t want to sound stupid (tbh i’ve always struggle to fully understand cause my country is mostly pro-israel so they spread a lot of misinformation) can someone be pro-free palestine but being against hamas and what they are doing at the same time? cause in my country they automatically call you antisemitist when you are free palestine cause they say you supporting palestine means you support hamas too. and also there is this thing that whenever i tell someone that palestines have the right to live in peace and that it was their territory/land first, jews tell me that soil is “holy ground” and that a thousand years ago jews used to live there. im sorry, probably im damn stupid asking this but i can’t ask anyone around me cause everyone starts calling me antisemitist and i don’t consider myself that just cause i support palestine
Don’t apologize! It’s not a stupid question at all. Many people are pro-Palestine and recognize that Hamas is a violent extremist group. And while it’s hard to say for sure what exactly they’ve done because the IDF is notorious for making false claims in order to justify the violence they commit, it’s clear that they are not a group that should be in any kind of position of power. The important thing to recognize is that Hamas only exists because of the ongoing occupation of Palestinians. They are not the cause of the problem, merely a symptom of it. They also certainly don’t represent the majority of the Palestinian people’s beliefs, but right now many Palestinians see them as their only option of having any hope of freedom. So, yes, I fully support Palestinian liberation, but I also believe that the people deserve better than Hamas.
As for the “holy ground” argument, I firmly believe that no religion gives anyone the right to steal land from someone else. Colonization is NEVER justified. It is not anti-Semitic to say that; it is basic human decency. If the Israelis truly wish to live on that land, then they need to do so WITH the Palestinian people, not at their expense. There is no justification for Israel’s cruel and dehumanizing treatment of Palestinians. I’m really sorry that people have called you anti-Semitic for supporting Palestine but please don’t take it to heart. Those accusations have absolutely no basis in reality; they are nothing more than deliberate intimidation tactics meant to stop people from speaking out. Zionism is most certainly not the same thing as Judaism, and there are many, MANY Jewish people, including Holocaust survivors, who support Palestine because they recognize that Jewish values teach them to oppose apartheid. It definitely sucks that it’s so hard to find accurate information about Palestine since the mainstream media is so heavily biased towards pro-Israel propaganda, but fortunately, there are some really great videos on YouTube. I highly recommend checking out Hasanabi; I think he’s doing an excellent job covering this issue. You’re not stupid for trying to learn more, so don’t apologize!
#palestine#israel#pro palestine#free palestine#from the river to the sea palestine will be free#hasan piker#hasanabi#hamas#anti zionisim
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theres something to be said about the fact that much of the world seems to be okay with openly supporting the "jewish right to israeli land" is because jews have become white enough as a concept
jews aren't homogenous. this is something we should all know by now. the people who don't know as much are disappointing. and also definitely racist. but anyway. there's no shortage of diversity in jewish history. ashkenazi and sephardic and mizrahi. black and white and brown. european and african and native american. etc etc etc
but the thing is we've allowed this idea that jews all look and act and talk and live the same to grow to the point that when people think of jews they think of white ashkenazi jews. and there's a reason israel reinforces that idea.
a lot of people have already been talking about how israel (and the world) is racist in regards to this genocide and the global responses to it. people have already been talking about how the only reason the "hamas = terrorists" rhetoric has been believable to people is because those people have already been taught that arabs are subhuman and barbaric. people have already been drawing comparisons between the treatment of ukrainians and the treatment of palestinians. and as a white ashkenazi jew i think i'll let the people who've already been talking about it continue to do so. because it's not really my place and they're already doing a much better job of it than i ever could.
(btw for some people who've been talking abt that part look to people like @fairuzfan or @palipunk or @bloglikeanegyptian . there's definitely more but memory is failing me. anyway back to my point)
again speaking as a white ashkenazi jew, i think it's also important to look at the other side of it. not only looking at why the world is treating palestinians like such shit but also why the world is suddenly okay with "supporting jews"
it's because they think we're all white. and that we're all ashkenazi. do you really think the western world, and the media especially, would be acting like all this is about defending our "right" to stolen palestinian land if they thought we were a more diverse community??
the settler colony of israel reinforces this idea (of course, i mean look how it's benefiting them right now) by doing things like framing palestinians as homogeneously muslim and israelis as homogeneously jewish or by forcibly sterilizing ethiopian jews.
but it's not just israel. as racism often does, it has permeated throughout white communities. it's apparent in the anti-black racism that black jews face in predominantly white synagogues. in how much easier it is for a white person to seek conversion than for a brown one. in the proliferation of the idea both inside and out of jewish spaces that jews have a "look" to them (white skin, curly hair, large noses, etc). in people genuinely not knowing that jewish natives exist. in not being taught about the kinship between judaism and islam.
it's easy to say that the settler colony of israel is racist. it's easy to say that usamerica is racist. and it's easy to posit that a lot of what makes up this colonialist genocide that we're witnessing (as well as the response to it) is about racism. but it's important that white ashkenazi jews in particular also look at our own communities and ask why it is that we seem to have become the face of what it means to be jewish. it's important that we know that, to much of the world, jews are white. and that is why they are (allegedly) here to support us. that is why we can feasibly be used as an explanation as to why it's "morally justified" for the us government to send military aid to israel. it wouldn't be possible if jews weren't homogeneously white and ashkenazi.
it's important to ask ourselves what we can do in our own communities to redirect it
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was gonna make a post about how i was disappointed in misha for not speaking out more clearly about the isr*el-hamas and palestine situation given how he speaks up about so many international situations but i'm also a big believer in not always being reachable/on your phone/social media for your mental wealth etc and i try to keep up with it all but i've had some busy things happening and it's been a lot and i basically have no social life so i don't know how people do it who do. but when celebs speak out i'm an even bigger believer in them knowing what they're talking about because of the platform that they have but that requires reading up on the situations these celebs comment on and some of the situations celebs comment on have a decade(s) old history that isn't very easily summarized on wikipedia. so all of that is to say that i was still disappointed with misha's "silence" on what is happenign compared to how vocal he has been on other issues in the past. but i also know how omnipresent the isr*eli propaganda is in the west and especially the us and how retaliation in the form of blacklisting, unemployment, termination has been happening to people in all sorts of jobs who dare to utter a "palestinians devserve to live" stance.
but he just posted something so gonna comment on it. i don't agree with everything he's saying, but i'm surprised he spoke about it with such a clear text and i'm glad to see he's open to hearing other ideas and above all i'm "glad" to see he's on the artists for cease-fire list going around. it's awful that thats even a thing you have to be glad for but given that the vast majority of celebs have no problem supporting the mass murder of a people ...
also misha very clearly makes a distinction between h*mas and the palestinian people which is very interesting to me, given that this is a distinction many pro-palestinian people do not make. words matter people. i see a lot of people in the comments on his text completely interchanging h*mas and palestinians as in h*mas was justified in doing what it did cuz the palestinians have suffered for decades under isr*eli regime. h*mas for all intents and purposes is a terrorist organization that terorizes its own palestinian people, causing palestinians fearing for their lives to have to flee palestine and leave their families behind and even then they're not safe. do not celebrate that group and its acts. regardless of isr*els despicable atrocities, the abduction and murder of people is never okay no matter who does it.
did see a screenshot of a tweet (but can't seem to find the tweet) where he said he thinks genocide is the wrong term here and i've seen a lot of people be very disappointed in him for saying that. i get that unfortunately that is because the internationally recognized deifnition of genocide is just very "vague". like it's clearly defined but with its definition it is very very difficult to prove that a state or actor actually committed or is committing the intent of genocide. i'm guessing that is why it took until a couple of days ago for the first law suits to be filed with the ICC alleging a genocide is occuring eventhough the war has been happening for a month now. it reminds me of how the atrocities and the horrible treatment of jewish people was not recognized for years after wwii. it took several years for experts and the wider public to realize that there was a targeted campaign happening against a group of people in the hopes of murdering them. while it was happening, people did not realize this. it's why the accusation of genocide is one hardly used by experts and lawmakers, instead they'll opt for one of the crimes that falls within what is a pillar of genocide like ethnic cleansing
#misha#i don't fully agree with what he said#but i'm surprised at certain things he did say#like the very clear distinction btwn hmas and palestine which many seem to forget#and also the very clear distinction btwn isrlis and the isrli regime#don't get me wrong many isrlis are pro the destruction#but i know that there is also a growing displeasure with the isrli regime#from isrlis themselves
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Honestly, really disappointed that Cate Blanchett was the only person who supported & spoke out about the children in Palestine & Congo being massacred.
I’m disappointed in them & disillusioned & mad that they don’t care cus they’re cocooned in their life of wealth & celebrity & worry about their careers. Looks like I f it doesn’t affect them directly, then they don’t care.
I know these relationships we have with celebrities are all parasocial ones. & I know they put on a profile for the public, but Sebastian & Tom Hiddleston ( unicef goodwill ambassador FFS) seem like good people from all their public appearances.
Palestine always exposes people for who they really are.
Hi! Thank you for sending this message what is happening in Congo and Gaza (to Palestinian people) is so barbaric, so tragic and so heartbreaking!
The fact Cannes banned all types of protests says a lot (same goes for Berlinale, Eurovision etc).
The authorities of many countries are not applying the same treatment to Israel as they do to Russia because politics... because they want to have them as an ally in the geographical area and because their army and power is >
To be honest, many of us are not educated about Palestine and Israel, and the media spreads fake news so much everywhere. The info is also tricky and many people really have no idea how to even research correctly. I was not taught in school about this at all back in the day.
About Congo, they do not even speak! I barely saw any news, and it's absolutely tragic!
Some celebrities are in their own bubble, indeed! Some believe and spread fake news, some are scared of being fired or directors not wanting to work with them anymore (even big names... they usually have tricky contracts, especially if they are a part of an agency), and some simply do not care because it's not something that's affecting them directly.
Some people who spoke were so uneducated and spread fake news... not even intentionally sometimes, but the harm was done. I'd rather see them silent if they are uneductaed and unwilling to educate themselves over spreading fake news and making everything worse.
I am not defending anyone, though. Innocent people die and people with power (especially authorities of countries with power) do not care because it's all about their advantages.
But Hollywood would not hesitate to fire people: crew or cast (like Melissa Barrera), big names included, if they speak against the genocíde in Gaza.
To quote the Guardian: Israel has historically enjoyed staunch support in Hollywood:
[Source here]
Cate B. and Ali Abbasi speaking up = really important and needed!
I can understand the disappointment, I'd lie if I said I am not... but I think Sebastian and Tom are pro-Palestina. Especially SS based on his past, his culture, his previous posts on other causes, his choice to play in The Apprentice and show a sick system etc. But I wish he was active on social media and posted links to donate.
They all should educate themselves and do something about it! We all need to...
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One of the aspects I think everyone needs to recognize about bigotry is that public perception of "how bad" a particular flavor of discrimination is compared to all other kinds has very little to do with which groups are the most tangibly harmed or harassed, and a lot more to do with the oppressed group's ability to politically organize.
One of the reasons that specifically anti-black racism- in specifically the United States- is so recognized is because black people make up about 15% of the population of the US. In Europe, the issue is literally smaller- not because Europeans are any less racist, but because the portion of Europeans that are black is far lower (Wikipedia says ~1.2% in 2019, only counting Europeans of African descent). That's a much more convenient number of people for regional media to ignore. That's a much smaller number of bodies that can form a crowd to visibly protest in city plazas. It's fewer voices to shout out. And thus, it's a much harder task for protest organizers to win awareness for, even when anti-black racism absolutely exists all across Europe.
Without an education that is able to explain what discrimination is in general, how it systemically works, and how bigoted attitudes are able to take root in ordinary people (no, you are not exempt), any minority group that doesn't have the benefit of an active civil rights campaign with a footing in their home-region is going to continue to have their struggles swept under the rug, and their oppression outright denied by the same people who are oppressing them- even if those people think of themselves as good liberals who would never do that kind of thing to the specific groups whose fights against oppression they've been sold on.
We can make fun of Europeans for writing off their beyond-parody racist treatment of the Romani, but the reality is, without a general education about the inner workings of bigotry and systemic discrimination, we're just going to end up repeating it towards every minority group that hasn't specifically been singled out by an organized civil rights movement as "one of the oppressed people who we need to stand up for".
Think of how comparatively little anyone in America talks about the Americans Indians, who were subjected to such thorough genocide that they now make up a tiny fraction of the population of their native continent. Think of how much casual anti-asian sentiment gets thrown around in the United States. And if you want to turn back to Europe, think about how the recent immigrations of Middle Eastern refugees have almost single-handedly triggered a backslide into nationalist and isolationist policies. The United Kingdom choked so hard on its own Islamaphobia that it isn't even in the EU anymore.
Think about how oppression against groups with more ability to lobby is weaponized against groups with less. Consider Israel and Palestine. People forget to look at things as simple as where the bombs are falling, and on who. People talk about the horrors of the Holocaust as something that must be prevented from reoccurring as an argument for supporting a government that's literally filtering Palestinian civilians into concentration camps, and don't see the irony because it's different people from the ones in their history books. The horrifyingly disparate number of deaths among Jewish Israelis and Palestinians should be enough evidence by itself to demonstrate where the lion's share of the region's current systemic oppression is being directed, but people aren't looking at the deaths. Nobody can trace what "protecting ourselves from oppression" does or does not excuse, because it's become an abstract game of "avoid bigotry" that isn't based on bigotry's connection to tangible harm, only the public perception of it. That comes down entirely to which side has more ability to sway public perception.
When people in Europe look down on Americans for being racist against black people, then turn around and cheer for bulldozers to demolish Romani homes, and treat the possibility that some of them are just innocent people legally living in their country with contempt, that's because it's not the action of denying people human rights that they're paying attention to. That's not their conception of bigotry. Bigotry is only when it happens to the particular cultural or ethnic groups they've been told they have to defend. As long as this line of thinking stays in place, no minority group will ever have protections against bigotry any greater than their own individual ability to advocate for themselves. At that point, it's just a numbers game.
So pardon me if this is a silly idea, but maybe if we're trying to form a litmus test for what bigotry is that doesn't immediately crumble from the slightest lack of self-awareness, maybe a good starting point is the bombs and the bulldozers. If you want a specific type of person's home to be destroyed so that they have nowhere to exist anymore, that's definitely bigotry.
somebody will rightfully notice that europeans are really fucking weird about romani people and there will always be 1 person in the comments going "okay it's not racist, you just don't understand, bleeding heart americans, i promise my brother tony had an experience which proves they're all raping theives and hitler was right about them" and not seem to be aware of how much they sound like americans talking about black ppl
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the definition of "white people" is wild to me because it changes over time to exclude whoever we want to vilify (at least in europe). Spanish and italian people who are now considered white used to be victims of A LOT of racism (they still face it today but it used to be very worse) while arabic people where vilified a lot less than today (we have a peak of racism in france these days).
what decides who is white or not? i think politics plays a huge part. we have a rise in racism caused mainly by politics (against arabic people and asian people with covid at a lesser level). The media will choose to portray people as more or less "civilized" to dehumanize them. Example: the treatment of ukrainian victims and palestinian victims in media.
Also, different cultures deemed "non white" will also be treated very differently. As a mixed asian girl i've seen a LOT of sexualisation of asian people and that makes them more suceptible to be victims of sexual violence, while physical violence is less of a risk. For arabic people, both are a big problem.
But like i said this shit changes so fast. with covid it switched to more physical violence, less sexual. And then it switched back and we had the whole fetichisation of asian people worsened after white people watched kpop or anime and objectified asian people again.
i'm not the most articulate rn (i caught covid :/) but i hope my point gets across. Not saying much about racism against non asian people because i haven't experienced it. go listen to people who experience it directly
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I want to believe this post was written with good intentions but this really is not true and it's pretty harmful to say it is. The fact is a lot of people "e-beg"/ask for money online when struggling completely genuinely and this is still true of Palestinians (and Ukranians, for that matter) as well. Because of the effort of Gazan workers and eSims efforts, Gazans do have access to internet and it is completely reasonable to assume they might actually go onto social media and ask for money given that they are trapped, without income, and need money to survive and for their families survived. And yes, given the desperate situation, they do reach out to people directly because it's much easier to get traction in donation posts if a popular person on tumblr reblogs your post.
Also, I would say most of these gofundmes are actually for people to escape Gaza, which is pretty expensive due to Egyptian border fees and due to the fact that they will have to make a life in a new country with little to nothing. Notably, I do not know of a charity that does cover these border fees or the cost of escaping, and most I know of generally cover food, medical treatment, etc, which are incredibly necessary, but it does mean that if a family is trying to escape they would have to raise the funds themselves. And even if a family is fundraising for medical costs or food, it is because what they're getting from charities, as good as the work they do, isn't enough to help them. Charities need more than money, they also need labor, and in a genocide as brutal as this one, labor is pretty tight given the IOF keeps murdering them. This means that it is absolutely crucial for people to donate to these fundraisers, as they're a cost that charities cannot cover alone.
There are definitely scams pretending to be Gazans of course, and this is something you should be careful about. A lot of people have identified scams, and I'm just gonna link my mutual's scam list that has a lot of id'd donation scams on there. But like. To say that anyone verifying Palestinian fundraisers is "in on the scam" is just..... Basically everyone I've seen who is verifying fundraisers on here (users like el-shab-hussein, nabulsi, and 90-ghost) is a pretty well established Palestinian blogger. You can check of these blogs for yourself, but they've all been on here for at least a couple of years if not ten, even more. There's a lot to indicate that they're real people, and a lot to indicate that they don't all know each other or anything, so the claim that multiple Palestinian bloggers verifying that a fundraiser is genuine is actually just because they're all "in on it" is highly unlikely. Also just saying anyone Palestinian verifying a Palestinian fundraiser is a scammer who's in on it is frankly racist. It is racist to assume every Palestinian is a scammer I'm sorry.
Anyways I have encountered my fair share of scammers on here and it is disheartening but please understand that a lot of the Gazan people you see fundraising here and online in general are real, and it may be disheartening to know about how many people need help but you're certainly not helping by calling people desperate to escape genocide scammers.
I don’t know who needs to hear it but if you get an ask that’s like “hello from [insert country having some serious troubles that the world cares about presently] because of all the war in my country my family is struggling. Could you spread this for awareness and send me money? We’d greatly appreciate it.” It’s a SCAM
ITS A SCAM
It’s still a scam if “people” “verify” it’s real. The “people” verifying are either the same person sending the ask or accomplices.
Don’t send your money to random people on the internet like that. Donate to organizations you’ve done research on to ensure the money is going to helping people.
I have seen this ask dozens of times and it’s almost always the same exact wording, right down to the excessive use of emojis. Last year all these “people” (scammers) were from Ukraine, now they’re from Gaza/Palestine. They’re SCAMMERS. There’s no telling where they’re really from but they aren’t real. If you want to help people in hardship, your money will actually be put to good use if you donate to a nonprofit organization (that you’ve researched) or if you go to go fund me. Just make sure you do a little digging there, too. Sending money to scammers just encourages the gross scamming behavior.
#if people need more verification that some of these arent scams lmk#I am actually more than willing to have a convo#dm me
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Speaking Out Against Israel is Celebrity Kryptonite.
It is not that difficult to understand why the vast majority of celebrities, athletes and public figures are silent on the Israeli atrocities and war crimes. They are keenly aware of the consequences to their public image and to their livelihood should they in any way support the Palestinian cause or stand in solidarity with the Palestinians.
These people can criticise the American government, accuse them of war crimes and systemic racism, and still survive the campaign to “cancel” them.
However, if anyone dares to even ask a question regarding Israeli policy or show solidarity with the Palestinians, the progenitors of cancel culture will come for them. The media attacks on them and their associates will be relentless, sustained and exhausting.
For those who are brave enough, they will be;
- Immediately accused of antisemitism whether it is true or not.
- Endorsements and sponsorships deals will either be rescinded or not renewed.
- Left out of Business deals and investment opportunities
- Deplatformed.
- Blackballed by all the industries that they’ve had plans on being a part of.
But still, it is very disappointing to see that hardly any high profile celebrity has spoken up for the Palestinians. Even the uncancellable Dave Chappelle (who happens to be a muslim) has had nothing to say about the Israel - Palestine issue.
As far as high profile celebrities go, the Hadid sisters are the ones leading the pack in showing solidarity with the Palestinian’s. After all, they are the children of a Palestinian father. Yet, they are being attacked by the official and verified social media accounts of the Israeli state accusing the sisters of calling for the genocide of Jews and accusing them of antisemitism.
The fact that these sisters are being attacked directly by the Israeli state goes to show how influential these sisters are. And how seriously the Israeli government takes the influence these sisters have on the young. That is why, regardless of how you may feel about them, the Hadid sisters need to be protected, supported, and encouraged.
It boggles the mind to think that the Israeli government expects the children of a Palestinian to keep quiet in the face of the inhumane treatment of their people and the indiscriminate bombings of residential buildings in Gaza killing women and children all in the guise of Hamas is in the building.
Here is a link to the celebrities who have shown support for the Palestinian’s. It is disappointingly limited and not at all surprising.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/celebrities-show-solidarity-with-palestine/2247224
Israel, through its obscenely wealthy and powerful supporters in the United States, have bought the silence of these celebrities through multimillion dollar endorsement deals and sponsorships. It is hard to give up that kind of money in a culture where success is seen as who has the most money. (China has figured this out too and is doing the same thing. But, that is a topic for another day).
What we are seeing right now is that there are a lot less Mohamed Ali’s than there are Michael Jordan’s or LeBron James’. Where as Mohamed Ali was willing to give up everything for a cause he believed in, Michael Jordan refused to take a side by infamously saying, “Republicans buy sneakers too.” And, who can forget how LeBron reacted to a NBA owner who criticised China’s handling of the Hong Kong democracy protests.
LeBron James being one of the most outspoken superstars of this generation said of the NBA owner “I believe he wasn’t educated on the situation at hand and he spoke."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50054195
The message is loud and clear. Be very careful of what you say about Israel or China unless you want your money to be messed with.
As Lee Kwan Yew of Singapore showed, if you want to change behaviour hit their wallets and see how fast the behaviour changes. But I digress.
Kevin Hart, on one of his visits to the Joe Rogan podcast, spoke of the difficulty in being free and how limiting it is on what he wants to say or do when having corporate relationships. Because any misstep from him will have dire consequences on not only him but also those around him.
Though it is incredibly disappointing and disheartening to see that so many have chosen to keep quiet because speaking up may mean the loss of a substantial portion of their income, it is difficult to be mad at them.
I hope to see a day where the vast majority of influential people aren’t afraid to criticise Israeli atrocities, the ethnic displacement of Palestinians, and the war crimes it commits because of what may happen to their careers and to their earning potential.
As for now, lets just stand in solidarity with Palestine and do what little we can do to help alleviate the dire situation Palestine is in.
May Palestine be free one day.
#FreePalestine #FreeGaza #LongLivePalestine #LongLiveGaza
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Cornel West says in resignation letter over tenure dispute that Harvard is in ‘decline and decay’
Cornel West, considered one of the most prominent Black philosophers and progressive activists in the country, announced Monday that he has resigned from his position at Harvard University’s Divinity School, saying the institution is in a state of “decline and decay” and “spiritual rot.”
In a resignation letter dated June 30 and posted to Twitter, West suggested that discrimination at the university drove him to leave the Divinity School.
The 68-year-old scholar said in March that he was abandoning his quest for tenure at Harvard to return to the Union Theological Seminary in New York, where he first taught more than four decades earlier.
“How sad it is to see our beloved Harvard Divinity School in such decline and decay,” he wrote. “The disarray of a scattered curriculum, the disenchantment of talented yet deferential faculty, and the disorientation of precious students loom large.”
West, who added that Harvard has become “market-driven,” tweeted, “Let us bear witness against this spiritual rot!”
“The School has no comment on Dr. West’s letter,” Jonathan Beasley, a spokesman for the Divinity School, said Tuesday morning.
The release of what West described as his “candid” resignation letter came after journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones announced last week that she had accepted a faculty position at Howard University and turned down an offer to teach at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill because of a long and remarkably contentious back-and-forth over tenure. Although trustees for UNC-Chapel Hill voted to award tenure to Hannah-Jones, the vote came after the public university hired her as a professor without the job-protection status, which caused faculty members and students to protest that she had been mistreated.
Nikole Hannah-Jones to join Howard faculty after UNC tenure controversy
At Harvard, many students were sharing West’s letter on social media, said Noah Harris, the student body president, “because it’s really bringing to light a lot of the treatment of professors of color. … We have to do a better job as a university, as a culture.”
Harris, who is Black and from Mississippi, said West was the first Black teacher he ever had. Hundreds of students have taken West’s introductory course, he said, and have been able to talk about things in their lives as a shared experience. At Harvard, Harris said he became close to several professors who left because they weren’t given the opportunities and respect they deserve. “It’s just devastating to the student body every time.”
Harris said he doesn’t know all the facts about what happened regarding West. “What I do know is that Harvard lost one of the best professors of our generation,” he said.
David Carrasco, a professor at the Divinity School and the department of anthropology wrote in an email that he was hurt and deeply disappointed — “down for the count.”
“Cornel West is an intellectual powerhouse, a truth teller, an attentive and even generous colleague and a beloved teacher,” he wrote. At convocation and graduation talks, “he lifted us all up!” Carrasco wrote. “Why would the university now say ‘no’ to his very reasonable request in a timely manner? Something is very wrong in this story.”
West is irreplaceable, said Jacob K. Olupona, a professor of African and African American Studies and at the Divinity School, who wrote in an email that West is “an outstanding professor; a leading intellectual and scholar of repute.”
“We’re still hoping that he will be able to come back, and return to our community,” Olupona said by phone. “That is our wish and our prayer.”
West was previously a tenured Ivy League professor at Harvard, Princeton and Yale. He left Harvard in 2002 after a public fight with the university’s president at the time, but returned to the institution in a nontenured position in 2017.
He told The Washington Post that although he was happy to come back to Harvard for “one last chance” four years ago, not having tenure had been a point of contention since his return to campus.
“You could tell they were so frightened of me,” he said of the administration.
The news first came to light in the spring when West, in announcing he was leaving, said the university had turned down a recommendation by a faculty committee that would have made his untenured position a tenured one. When that tenure fight became public, he told the Boycott Times, a nonprofit outlet, in March that Harvard had made strides in diversity but that the “pettiness” of the talks about his status made him feel “disrespected and devalued.”
“Harvard has actually done very well in terms of bringing different peoples of different colors and gender at a high level into the administration,” he said. “But it does not yet translate on the ground in terms of faculty. It does not yet translate in terms of being able to speak to the seeking of truth among the students.”
The school changed course following an outcry to give him tenure, but West told the Harvard Crimson that the university’s shift as a result of public pressure only reaffirmed his decision to leave.
West, a professor of the practice of public philosophy, said in his letter that he hoped for a different outcome to an issue that has been a sticking point since his return to the university. He said he had been earning “a salary less than what I received 15 years earlier.”
“I hoped and prayed I could still end my career with some semblance of intellectual intensity and personal respect,” he wrote. “How wrong I was!”
The public intellectual claimed that “the shadow of Jim Crow” is present in Harvard through “the language of superficial diversity.” Although the issue of tenure in university classrooms has come up in the past week with him and Hannah-Jones, West said to The Post that many Black instructors face what he describes as a “systemic problem” in higher education.
In addition to mentioning the lack of tenure, he noted the administration’s “hostility toward the Palestinian cause.” The school has reportedly invested nearly $200 million in companies linked to Israeli settlements in Palestinian territories.
The lack of support and well wishes from the administration after his mother died were also mentioned in his resignation letter. “In my case, a serious commitment to Veritas requires resignation — with precious memories but absolutely no regrets!” he wrote.
West said Tuesday that he was surprised by the reaction to his resignation letter, which he made public to start a “substantive public conversation about the prospects for excellence in higher education.” He emphasized that the problems he laid out are not exclusively confined to the halls of Harvard.
“As I think about Harvard, I think about the best, and I think about the worst,” he told The Post. “That best is the magnificent care and challenge and adventure and deep love and friendships and students and colleagues.
“The worst are the hounds of hell: greed, contempt and disrespect.”
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