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i don’t hate Moira because she “gets in the way” of cherik, of course not. thats silly
the real reason i hate her is because she’s a terribly written character and i need her to leave immediately. she may not mean it but she brings chaos into everyones lives and a lot of people are dead because of her
thanks a lot Moira for shooting the bullet that paralyzed Charles, awakening a false god, causing the death of Erik’s family, bringing Magneto out of hiding, being the reason Charles is bald, being the reason nearly all of Cairo is destroyed (with extremely high casualties), and for just kind of being you. i just don’t like you
the one good thing i do praise her for is bringing cherik together
but lets be honest, that would’ve happened regardless 👀
anyway thanks for coming to my Ted talk ☺️🙏
#i also hate how they made charles a lovesick puppy for her in apocalypse#MOVE ON‼️‼️‼️#just realized the picture makes it look like charles is saying all this#lol#the xmen films hate women#moira the fans write you better 😔#cherik#moira mactaggert#anti movie moira mactaggert#charles xavier#x men#erik lehnsherr#professor x#magneto#wish does not shut up#xmcu#xmen first class#xmen apocalypse#anti xmen apocalypse
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The way y'all hate that man that did nothing. He didn't write those films. So many movies that are being made under gaint corporations have lost the plot and morals.
And if you're gonna say he supported conversion therapy I'm gonna hold your hand while I say this.
The person that broke that story,
A named the wrong chruch. It wasn't even the same pastor they were thinking of.
B their name is Elliot Page, formerly Ellen Page who was a star in the Xmen movies. Now the Xmen were directed by Brian Singer who was famously a fucking pedophile. She/he now\ worked for him KNOWING THIS. So Elliot sighting that we need to protect LGBT kids is fucking crazy when he personally knows young men that where underaged and trafficked by he buddy Brian.
C all mega churches unbeknownst to their patrons secretly fund conversion therapy. You have to come for all mega churches. Chris Pratt and anyone that goes to things is a pasty and dupe. The mega churches especially the ones in Southern California give you a "Jesus loves you and is love money please! To feed homeless!" Sermons. Then take that money and shut down strip clubs and abuse women with it. But it's not like their patrons know about any of this. You should feel fucking sorry for their patrons actually and the women and kids that are hurt by them.
But yeah Chris Pratt bad I guess not the pedo that's been running around since the 90's.
the fact that Spielbergs original Jurassic Park (the one based off Crichtons novel) is absolutely perfect in every single way with iconic characters and stellar writing plus with the masterful directing that conveys the sheer tension and suspense of jurassic park…….to then see the jurassic world sequels with their dinosaur helicopter clone human genetics or whatever the fuck is going on with Cool Guy chris pratt doing Cool Guy Action Things that just absolutely sucks the life and joy out of the entire universe is a crime against cinema and every time i think about it…..electric chair
#jurassic park#anti chris pratt#Chris Pratt#y'all will still watch them fucking Xmen films and be like gay rights 🥰#not realizing it's about Jews#it's always been about Jews#and Brian singer hated women
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loved the way you wrote it brigadeiro, it sounded cute as being british. oh no dont say that i'm sure your handwriting its even prettier!
as for films, i could talk about them for hours and never get tired. but coming up with a list would be difficult, do you have any criteria such as my fav films i’ve seen this year or comfort films, or by genre, etc?
it can be your comfort films and your favorite romcoms too.
i still didn't started bc of my work but when i finish i promise tell you about it
my favorite superhero is batman. i'm just a superfan of it, i have comics, shirts and even one sweatpants. about favorite villain maybe i can say magneto from xmen? i just love him and his ideals. (he's a villain i know but sometimes i agree with him about humanity). about my favorite character at comics it can be scott summers (i don't like him in the movies) and jean grey from xmen. my favorite movie is the dark knight but going away a bit from batman it can also be 007 - Skyfall, i just love it that movie, james bond from this actor is simply amazing i really watched all the movies at once and fell in love. and a really bad one that i really like is 2012, i swear that i already watched that movie like ten times. and about some comedy one i love "the nice guys". and now i need to apologize from rambling haha.
can i have your letterboxd? or its private?
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awww thank you, i might have absolutely butchered the pronunciation but it looked delicious when i looked it up online x
hmmm, i think i’ll go for two lists in that case!
drew’s top 4 comfort films: (1) top gun: maverick (2) the holiday (3) national treasure (4) 12 angry men
my 4th fav is continually changing! tg:m’s is a classic summer feel good film, and i’m obsessed with rooster’s wiggle, hence my user. funnily enough, i avoided watching it when it came out bc i didn’t think it would be as good as the first but after reading a few fics and seeing the trailers and gifs, etc i knew i had to watch it and i’ve never been happier to be proved wrong. the holiday and the national treasure are my childhood favourites, and i never fail to watch the holiday between christmas and new year’s (my tradition)! as for 12 angry men, it’s representative of the art of conversation and simplicity as well as the depth of character that i’ve been really big on this year and it just encompasses that beauty of cinematography in a very conversational film, big recommendation of you haven’t seen it already.
drew’s top 4 romance films: (1) 4 weddings and a funeral (2) before sunrise (3) 10 things I hate about you (4) gentlemen prefer blondes (bonus!) tangled
i suppose that’s very british of me to put 4 weddings first but i just love hugh grant’s delivery, it’s so simple and his character’s wit it incredibly charming. it’s just such a lovely film and really representative of the right person, wrong time. whether i believe in that is another matter but it’s a lovely film. before sunrise is again another very conversational film and i just love that dynamic. the next film is pretty obvious, it’s a sort of feel good, makes you blush when you watch it and the same goes for how to lose a guy in 10 days. gentlemen prefer blondes is reflective of my love of older films, and marilyn’s line in that has to be one of my favourites. i just love witty, smart and strong women in films and i like to think that it’s what i’m like too so i feel that extra connection.
i do love the dark night trilogy, it’s so well done and christian bale is incredible as batman. i love that you’re passionate about batman and i see your point on magneto. scott in the movies just ugh, he really irks me. i have to warn you though, i am a marvel girl (old marvel that is, not the newer films or tv shows).
james bond is a classic, i’ve been watching the whole series since i was little and my favourite would have to be between no time to die and on her majesty’s secret service, but probably leaning towards the former.
just saw nice guys recently actually. i wasn’t expecting to love it as much as i did but i adored the direction and dialogue. they found a way to take a hard topic and convert it into this super engaging action comedy. my top comedy would have to either be how the grinch stole christmas or the mask.
please don’t apologise for rambling, it’s lovely to hear about your interests x
&& unfortunately my letterboxd is private
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I would recommend cheesey 70s/80s sci fi because it's generally less serious: like the back to the future trilogy or the original superman movie with Christopher reeve (I believe that one is on Netflix). For more contemporary things, I quite like the x-men movies (with a few exceptions, also "Logan" is really sad) as well as fun spy movies (the new bond films, Jason Bourne, etc)
ok so here’s another annoying thing about me: i do not get excited by retro action films at all in the least. needs to be big explosions and pretty colors and super realistic crazy beautiful
#i remember thinking bourne was good#but not like#life changing#i hate james bond on principle bc it's just#fucking stupid#as a concept#like particularly the treatment of women in the older films#i saw the xmen movies when i was in high school#also just ok#they're kinda all sad#they're about genocide
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Marvel Movie Night: X-Men
Okay, I wanted to start up my Marvel Movie Nights again - where I go through every film based on a Marvel comic (according to the list on Wikipedia). I did Blade forever ago, so I’m jumping back into it and hoping I can keep this up a little longer. Anyway - I’m stealing most of my original review for this, but I did rewatch it!
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I first saw X-Men when I was a teenager in high school, and there weren’t really superhero movies unless you count Superman (which was really outdated at that point) and Batman (most of which were….not that great). So, this was the first big superhero movie that /worked/ - and kind of spawned what superhero movies were to become. And the film rejuvenated a near failing x-line of comics and Marvel. I loved the movie back then, having only watched the cartoon before hand, I had no knowledge of the comics. And it really got me into the X-Men - more than just being a fan of the show when I was a kid. I picked up a comic book for the first time when I was 16.
But now here we are, nearly twenty years later (damn), me having read a ton of comics, and have had the entire weight of the XMen franchise and MCU behind me and, well, hm…. It’s not a bad movie. But I don’t think it’s a particularly great movie either. I think the biggest problem is that it hasn’t aged well. It’s very much a product of its time, and it shows.
Pros:
The message X-Men has always stood there is very much there. Mutants are feared and hated and it’s allegorical for any minority group ever. It’s still a resonate theme for even today.
Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen are perfect in their roles Professor Xavier and Magneto respectively. The highlights of the film are when these two are in a scene together, a few of which are sprinkled throughout the film. (My favorite being Xavier and Magneto’s standoff with the police, the one time the movie really showcased the two’s powers against each other.) You would think that it might have made more sense to start the franchise based on these two characters alone…. oh wait….
Also - I kind of love that Xavier, even in the movie-verse, is fucking with everyone’s head.
Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine. It’s funny because I think he actually grows more into the part and more comic-book Wolverine as the franchise goes on, but it’s mostly solid here.
Rogue’s aesthetic. I don’t mind Anna Paquin’s performance of a young Rogue, even if I miss my sassy grown up Rogue of the comics. But she definitely looked like Rogue. And that was pretty cool.
Wolverine and Rogue’s friendship. Man, I wish they had built more on that. There could be a whole movie just with the two of them - and that would have been fun.
Famke Janssen as Jean Grey. She does the role really well, even if I wish that even Jean was more developed. She also really looks the part, man…
The kid who played Iceman works! I’m sorry there was so little of him, but he’s good in the role.
I like the Rogue/Iceman friendship. I don’t necessarily buy the romantic angle set up in other films (Iceman is gay and Rogue has better chemistry with other people) but they do have a comic friendship that’s a pretty cool dynamic. And I think that plays out well on screen here.
The little Easter eggs for the comic fans. I get them all now. Not sure what that says about me but – yay!!
There are some really good one-liners.
The few times the X-Men actually worked as a team was really fun.
The school set - damn. That is so the school.
Cons:
One of the things I think really helped MCU is that they didn’t start with The Avengers. They started with Iron Man and Captain America and Thor’s individual stories and built on them until they led up to The Avengers. While I realize this was never going to work with X-Men (I mean, X-Men is a team book and people probably wouldn’t have wanted solo series first), I think one draw back to this film is that it can’t properly give the characters the fleshing out they deserve because it’s only two hours. And the pantheon of characters who deserve to be focus would never be able to fit in a twenty hour film let alone two. (I understand the central focus of Wolverine, but it makes me miss development of nearly every other character.)
Case in point - Cyclops and Storm are incredible characters and they’re all but lifeless here. At least James Marsden gets the feel of Cyclops, even if he’s barely developed. Halle Berry’s Storm though - well - I think it’s pretty universally panned.
(Storm is so amazing and deserves so much more.)
This film completely lacks any energy and feels incredibly slow paced. I get I’m now spoiled by the high-adrenaline of the MCU, but, idk, this movie really drags. The characters have such interesting powers - it’s a shame we didn’t really get them more in-depth.
The special effects are incredibly dated, to the point where some are really cringe-worthy. Also, Wolverine’s claws…. eesh…
The brotherhood of (evil) mutants feels lacking. I understand why they went with who they went with (Sabretooth, Mystique, Toad) but none of them are developed enough for me to care.
Which brings me to - I feel like there’s no real tension in the film? The plot is classic in that it’s Xavier vs Magneto’s dueling ideologies about mutants and humans coexisting. But I guess I don’t really feel the threat? Maybe because so many of these characters have such great inner conflicts that that seems like the more interesting avenue to go down.
The Jean/Wolverine hint of romance. Wolverine isn’t a flirty character, and I don’t really buy it in any incarnation.
Most of Rogue’s actions don’t make any sense. Why does she run to Canada? Because she needs to be there to meet Wolverine. Why does she sneak into Wolverine’s room? Because Wolverine needs to stab her and she can steal his power. Why does Rogue believe fake Bobby? Because she has to get on that train. I mean - Rogue is a runner by nature, but it feels like 90% of her actions are plot driven and not necessarily logical.
Other Things:
Doctor Jean Grey. Ha. I had forgotten they made her a Dr. It’s fine - mean more power to women with power. Just – Jean, no. And it made me miss Beast.
When Wolverine is wondering around the school near the beginning, I kept waiting for Hugh Jackman to break out into song.
The movie is aesthetically dark - as I believe it was trying to move away from the brightly colored spandex of the comics. I get why they went there, so not really a con. But I do miss the bright colors.
Not entirely sure why they needed to explain the coloring of Rogue’s hair. But it’s an interesting little addition. She doesn’t feel like Rogue without the white streak though.
Why is Mystique completely naked? In the comics she wheres a white, flowy dress. She needs her white, flowy dress to be Mystique. Idk…
Final thoughts: I’m giving it a 6/10. The movie feels like a basic introduction to so many other interesting things. While not bad, in general, doesn’t hold up well after all this time. And with the exception of Wolverine, the characters just feel so flat.
Next Up: Blade gets a sequel
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For some reason (well we all know the reason) I’ve seen so much hate towards captain marvel despite us getting a single trailer. Most critics and weak nerd boys are comparing it to Rey from Star Wars or the Ghostbusters reboot and explaining how women ruin everything.
Can you even comprehend being so fragile that the single female solo film against the entire fucking rest of the MCU is offensive to you???
Thay will pick at EVERYTHING. The main “issue” they have is with Brie. The two biggest complaints is that: (1) she can’t act (say that to her Oscar) and (2) she has a flat ass (there are no words to even retaliate against that).
They’re already trying to make captain marvel fail and we know exactly why. Would any of this be said if it was any male character? Absolutely the fuck not. And the only thing that is different about this marvel movie is that there’s a female lead, thats is main defining point. They’re already trying to sabotage this movie just because they really hate women. So please please please- even if you’re getting marvel fatigue- see this film to let Hollywood, neckbeards and everyone know that women deserve to be heroes. Because little girls deserve more than a single token film.
(Also the xmen ladies weren’t making a political point? Sure jan)
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The Karen stereotype has brought forward a lot of commentary about how women are perceived, but one way of using this label is to call out problematic behavior or someone’s sense of entitlement, irrespective of gender or age. In the Real Housewives franchise where emotions run high and stakes are even higher, the cast members have struggled to check what they say to each other or how they react in certain situations and have often been called out for being out-of-touch, ignorant or simply too privileged.
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A refusal to learn from past mistakes and dodging accountability is a tell-tale sign of a ‘Karen’. Ignorance, unchecked entitlement, bullying, cultural insensitivity, moral policing, or even certain forms of gaslighting qualifies as Karen-esque behavior. The Real Housewives series has witnessed some major ‘Karen’ moments over the years, some of which are very difficult to live down.
10 Sonja Morgan – RHONY
Sonja is too quick to judge someone, but when it comes to her own mistakes, she expects people around her to give her a free pass. Fans were shocked when she told Leah that she doesn’t talk to tattooed people and made her feel bad about her tattoos. When she relieved herself in a corn maze and ripped corns because ‘she was friends with the owner,’ she came across as really entitled.
“There’s definitely two Sonja’s. There is Mrs. Morgan, the one who lives on the Upper East Side that hates tattoos and just talks about old money. And then there’s turn up Sonja. I have a feeling that if Mrs. Morgan and turn up Sonja met they wouldn’t like each other,” Leah had said about Sonja. It became more and more obvious that in spite of being aware of her own issues, Sonja does very little work on herself and shuts out any critical communication.
9 Brandi Glanville – RHOBH
Brandi Glanville has had really dramatic storylines on Real Housewives, but her ‘Karen’ moments always had to do with her channeling her insecurities upon others and her refusal to be the bigger person. She made countless allegations about people—like her comments on the Richards sisters’ drug abuse or her remarks about Adrienne and Paul’s family—which were not just baseless but also hurtful.
This alienated her from others mainly because no one could trust her; she would become aggressive quite needlessly, but what made her a proverbial Karen was definitely her refusal to be held accountable for her actions.
8 Kelly Dodd – RHOC
As remembered by People, Kelly’s borderline racist remarks towards Heather, her ‘Drunk Wives Matters’ joke, or even her controversial comments on Covid-19 are probably the things she will never look down. Kelly’s entitlement has been an issue because even her friends Meghan and Vicki have found it difficult to stick up for her during certain arguments. It’s not that Kelly is insensitive or looking for a reason to start drama, but her attacks are almost always completely unwarranted and below-the-belt.
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Like when she brought up Tamra’s daughter during lunch, or how she attacked Braunwyn for faking her addiction issues even after being aware of her history, these were moments when Kelly came across as really mean.
7 Camille Grammer – RHOBH
Camille’s unprovoked attacks and tendency to slut-shame other women were problematic. She did not just go after cast members she had issues with but also made harsh comments about people she did not know that well. The Real Housewives‘ iconic Dinner from Hell episode had some good examples.
Camille made Faye Resnick feel uncomfortable for posing nude in a magazine in the past and kept on taking potshots at her because of her past, which did not merit criticism. She questioned Dorit’s financial status and brought up her husband’s loans, Camille insinuated that she should get better privileges than the other castmates because she was married to a film star, and constantly spread misinformation about people before checking her sources, which made her seem like a pot-stirrer.
6 Sutton Stracke – RHOBH
The way Sutton reacted to Erica Jayne’s legal situation outed her as someone who’s not just mean but also quite self-serving; it’s safe to say that the allegations against Erica and her estranged husband Tom Girardi make every castmate pretty uncomfortable.
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Sutton explicitly said that she wants to distance herself from Erika during this time, which would have been fine if she wouldn’t gossip about Erika behind her back, or talk about how she didn’t believe her innocence and go back to talking about the scandal to anyone who’d listen. This makes her seem like someone who enjoys others’ humiliation, and even her friend Kyle has called her out as “too-faced” for her behavior.
5 NeNe Leakes – RHOA
Even NeNe’s fans couldn’t always support her actions on Real Housewives. She often gets defensive too fast which leads her to make unsavory comments about people or target their weak spots.
For example, when she judged Kim’s love life and shaded her for dating a married man even though Kim made it clear that her partner was separated, or when she implied Kenya’s marriage was fake or how she shared sensitive information that could break relationships. NeNe’s opinions are mostly based on superficial observations which makes them problematic.
4 Karen Huger – RHOP
Karen has a tendency of making shading people without knowing enough about them, and more often than not she attacks people’s net worth, their families, or their lifestyle. Ashley even called her out for constantly judging others. “I’m only judging what you give me, baby,” Karen responded.
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But in reality, this behavior makes it hard for her to make allies or even friends because Karen can be very unpredictable when she feels challenged on any level. Like how she threw Giselle out of a party with the help of security just because she said she wanted to talk, and even her supporters have often urged her to take accountability for some of her actions.
3 LeeAnne Locken – RHOD
LeeAnne has constantly been racist towards her cast members and has been called out on many occasions. She usually dodges accountability by bringing up her personal hang-ups, but, at the same time, refuses to apologize. Moreover, she has been caught lying several times and has even been called out by the show’s producer Andy Cohen for making up fake production policies; her biggest issue is definitely her ignorance and her inability to see past her actions or acknowledge how her comments affect others.
2 Vicki Gunvalson – RHOC
The OG housewife’s constant policing of others on Real Housewives made her lose out on many fans, especially those who couldn’t connect with her anymore. She has made several tone-deaf remarks about people of color and has constantly refused to acknowledge her problematic statements even after learning how she was wrong.
Vicki has been touted as a villain because of her overbearing nature, as was the case when she bullied Alexis Bellino for talking to her husband on phone during dinner, or when she told Meghan King that her sentiments towards her step-children were unjust.
1 Ramona Singer – RHONY
Ramona has been called out by several of her castmates for repeatedly using her failed relationships and past woes to justify her inappropriate behavior. Ramona has not only cultivated an atmosphere of cliquism on the show but had also outed Leah’s mental disorder when she wasn’t ready to talk about it, she has been accused by Bethany of staff mistreatment which Ramona tried to justify by bringing up how much she usually tips.
But these problems aside, Ramona has never shown interest in taking accountability for her mistakes or even admitting that she can get carried away, which makes her seem entitled.
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Reacting to X-Men: The Dark Phoenix Saga (1994)
The Living Embodiment of “Bitch, You Thought”
The Setup: Caroline Siede is a TV and film critic whose work has appeared in The AV Club, Quartz, The Mary Sue, and Vox, among others; an occasional theatre and film director, including of a web series Kris wrote; a superhero enthusiast in general and an X-Men superfan in particular; and to our great honor and everlasting vague surprise, a friend of Reacting to Something.
Kris remembered from this (excellent) X-Men: Apocalypse tweet storm that Caroline’s favorite fictional character ever is Jean Grey. Somewhere between then and the news that Jessica Chastain might join Sophie Turner, Jennifer Lawrence, et al. in X-Men: Dark Phoenix, he learned that Miri is also a big X-Men fan. And Miri is the only RtS regular who didn’t work on that web series, so this two-part Guest Reaction on X-Men cartoons basically had to happen.
Spoilers ahead, I guess?, for a decades-old story that practically redefined its medium and is on track for its third screen adaptation in our lifetimes. Post-chat notes and comics trivia from Kris in italics.
MIRI: Hi! This is Miri
CAROLINE: Hello!
MIRI: Ready?
CAROLINE: I am!
MIRI: Excellent!
My first instinct is to talk about [X-Men: The Animated Series], then [X-Men: Evolution], then some general yelling about how the two compare. What do you think?
CAROLINE: That sounds perfect to me!
MIRI: Awesome. Shall we be chronological about it?
(Secret motive: I have many feelings about the fashions in the Animated Series that I cannot contain for much longer)
CAROLINE: Ahaha. Well let's go for it then!
Had you seen any of the series before?
MIRI: None. At least not that I recall--there may have been reruns that I don’t remember at some point.
And did you watch it all the way through?
I was super interested by the story structure. It has seasons, but each season is a collection of 4ish episode stories. Was there a narrative for the whole season, or not really?
CAROLINE: Not at all. It was a big part of my young childhood but only in the sense that I watched it on TV a lot and loved the characters. I doubt I even cared about or followed the plots.
MIRI: Gotcha
CAROLINE: Again, I'm not exactly an expert. But I believe the storytelling arcs were pretty self-contained with character stuff bleeding over across the seasons
But this Dark Phoenix arc was of course a direct follow-up to the earlier Phoenix arc
MIRI: Cool. Seems like a similar structure to early seasons of Doctor Who
Yes, let’s talk about Phoenix/Dark Phoenix
First of all, I think it’s safe to say that Dark Phoenix is the living embodiment of “Bitch, you thought” memes
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CAROLINE: Ha! I also just want to throw it out there that Jean Grey is my all-time favorite superhero
And yes, Dark Phoenix is an (insane) badass
MIRI: I had never seen a version where the Phoenix is a separate entity rather than a part of Jean that had been walled off inside of her
CAROLINE: Although I do believe that's the comic book origin story
I think TAS is fairly close to comic book canon
But the "internal" Dark Phoenix thing seems to have become the movie and TV norm now
KRIS: Though in general I don’t think of myself as a stickler for comics canon -- having come to comics, I think like many millennials, through various 90s cartoons -- this Phoenix thing does bum me out, partly for how big a deal the Phoenix Force is to the Marvel universe at large, along with characters like the Shi’ar who were introduced in that story. The Avengers vs. X-Men event that spun into 2012′s very successful Marvel NOW! relaunch (one of the things that made recent Marvel comics accessible to relatively casual readers like me) was built around the Avengers trying to permanently end the existential threat of the Phoenix.
MIRI: Interesting. My deep love of the X-men comes solely from the Evolution cartoon. I have no true history knowledge
(Don’t @ me, twitter)
CAROLINE: I'm kind of in the same boat with TAS although I do own a massive encyclopedia of X-Men comic book trivia
MIRI: I hope that sits proudly on your coffee table
CAROLINE: Of course! But I think with everything from character design to storylines, TAS pulled pretty directly from the comics
K: The character designs are specifically the Chris Claremont/Jim Lee era of “Blue Team” and “Gold Team,” recently re-invoked in two of the many X-Men titles spinning out of the recent Inhumans vs. X-Men crossover
(The Phoenix stories are from an earlier, Lee-less Claremont run.)
MIRI: I DEFINITELY want to discuss costumes at some point
CAROLINE: Agreed! But one other thing that really struck me about the Dark Phoenix is just how epic in scope it is.
MIRI: The structure does also feel more comic book-y to me--stories told over a few issues, then a new story,e tc
Oh yes, let’s definitely stay on her for now
Yeah, I was shocked to end up IN SPACE
K: The Shi’ar are pretty wild
CAROLINE: I think that's an element of comic book storytelling that doesn't really get adapted onto the big screen
I mean obviously the MCU is massive
But their crossovers are a huge event
Whereas comic books (and cartoons) can just get epic whenever they feel like it
This one went from a sexy pirate story to a massive interstellar gladiator battle.
K: I don’t know Caroline super well, but I feel confident saying that Space is one of her Top 5 Favorite Things
MIRI: Sidebar: Katherine Janeway and Jean Grey are into the same types of romance novels/holodramas, pass it on
But to your actual point--I was really surprised when they defeated Dark Phoenix at the end of the third episode. I thought the whole thing was going to be an earthbound mutant battle, and then suddenly there’s a space empress!
I like that freedom, which is definitely not a part of most of the film/tv versions.
CAROLINE: Yeah! The stories can literally go anyway. It's really fun to watch.
We even get a little Thor cameo
Albeit briefly
MIRI: Right!
That kind of reminder that it’s all out there and connected is nice, and in this format doesn’t overburden the story
CAROLINE: But I also think the Dark Phoenix arc does a good job grounding all that craziness in character drama
MIRI: Overall yes, but I don’t entirely buy the motivations of the (Dark) Phoenix
They lose me a little with the fact that Jean and Phoenix are both super great/good beings, but combined they’re evil
Like, there are also exhilarating happy emotions. Why isn’t she eating ice cream and having orgasms and looking at puppy gifs online?
CAROLINE: I agree that the plotting is messy as hell, but I always love stories about strong women being afraid of their own power. So I'm kind of willing to overlook how little sense it makes
MIRI: Fair! And the emotional ties within the Xmen work very nicely
CAROLINE: I think that was far and away what I cared about most
The Hellfire Club got a little boring after a while
But I love watching the X-Men be friends
Which I think TAS does really well
MIRI: I actually thought the whole “Kill me Logan, while I’m in control enough to let you” think worked a bit better in X3, but obviously it had this to build off of
Yes, I liked the friend dynamics! I’m a huge sucker for characters actually liking each other
CAROLINE: Umm, I reject the notion that anything about X3 worked on any level.
MIRI: hahahahahahahha
That is your right!
And I wouldn’t ever want to have to defend my point, because that movie is a shitshow
K: I certainly won’t defend it on a storytelling level, BUT I actually still think the set piece at the Grey house holds up pretty well as a standalone-ish thing (my objection to this version of the Phoenix still holds), not least because The Last Stand has one of the best Marvel movie soundtracks, composed by John Powell. The geography of the house is also used in more interesting ways than most action set piece locations.
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CAROLINE: I loved little things like Rogue leaving Scott and Jean alone as soon as they got romantic
MIRI: Wolverine and Scott even seem to care about each other while they’re both in love with Jean, which is very mature
CAROLINE: The relationships (at least among the X-Men) feel lived in and real
MIRI: I didn’t want to love this Rogue because I am deeply committed to loving the Evolutions Rogue, but I found her super charming
She’s just always ready to be enthusiastically upset
She cannonballed into Apocalypse’s calf and it was surprisingly effective!
CAROLINE: She's a huge standout of TAS for me
MIRI: Also she can just fly all the time, apparently? I love it
CAROLINE: I love Lenore Zann's voice acting
Yeah she's basically Superman
But she also can't touch anyone
It's a little weird but it's SUPER fun to watch
K: Rogue’s mutant ability is life-force/memory/power absorption (as also seen in the movies and in X-Men: Evolution), which is usually temporary. In the comics, the one time it stuck was when she got in a fight with Carol Danvers, at the time Ms. Marvel, and absorbed Carol’s powers of super strength and flight. (Carol later picked up additional, “cosmic”-level powers and went through several codename changes.)
MIRI: Is it possible for me to love her voice but hate her accent? Because that’s where I am
CAROLINE: Sure! Although I love both. And her and Gambit together are aces
MIRI: I liked her dropping him into the lake
And ‘What is this, catch the x-men day?’ (I'm misquoting, but that moment)
CAROLINE: It's an incredibly different characterization than the one we got on the films
K: I think this is from the first Phoenix Saga, but I couldn’t pass it up
MIRI: VERY
CAROLINE: *in the films
But I enjoy both
MIRI: Yeah, I think the adultness is a factor here, though certainly not all of it
CAROLINE: For sure! I guess this is really the only major X-Men series not to have a "teen" element
MIRI: It actually made me kind of uncomfortable that none of them were kids. Which is weird, but I’m SO used to the Xavier Institute version of it all
CAROLINE: They do have Jubilee running around sometimes
She's a POV teen in the premiere
But for the most parts they're just kind of The Avengers or something
MIRI: I’m not opposed to that. I was just legitimately shocked for a minute
CAROLINE: Overall I was surprised by how *adult* the whole series felt
Obviously it's aimed at kids
But it's complex and mature and about adulthood
I feel like a lot of kids shows kind of try to talk down to their audience?
But this one doesn't for the most part?
MIRI: Wow, that’s a really interesting point. I can’t think of any kid shows now that have primarily adult casts
Except the Wildkratts, which I am probably spelling wrong but is quality educational programing
CAROLINE: A LOT of stuff happens in this arc. And while there's a lot of hand-holding in terms, it also goes pretty deep
Including exploring the nature of a relationship between two older leaders dedicated to their people
Which, just, isn't what you would think of as kids fair
MIRI: I also like their look at relative morality in the face of a terrible decision
CAROLINE: (Also I meant to say there's a lot of hand-holding in terms of plot BTWs)
MIRI: Scott wants to save Jean, of course! And that’s The Right Thing to do, but everyone involved wants to do the right thing
CAROLINE: Yeah! A very adult conflict
MIRI: And they’re not really demonized for being willing to sacrifice Jean to save billions
Honestly, I think the Empress is in the right. I also think I would make the same decisions as Scott
K: Empress Lilandra is the character Jessica Chastain is reportedly in talks to play in Fox’s forthcoming Dark Phoenix movie
CAROLINE: It's a weird mix of mature thoughtfulness that's also super stilted and dated.
MIRI: That’s a perfectdescription
CAROLINE: Because I do think it feels like a pretty stitled series, especially to modern eyes
MIRI: Very
We expect a lot more realism in our storytelling now
CAROLINE: Not just the 90s aesthetic, but the actual storytelling
For sure.
MIRI: And economy of storytelling
CAROLINE: Although there is that here too sometimes. It's hard to pin down
Also I was legitimately so touched when the X-Men all gave of themselves to save Jean
MIRI: Team as family gets me every time
CAROLINE: That's some great team storytelling right there
MIRI: And they worked together nicely
CAROLINE: And the kind of stuff X-Men does best
MIRI: They all get their moment, but the team work is always present
Also I like that Rogue can and does pick up every single one of the X-Men in this episode
CAROLINE: Ha! I love her so much
I really love all of them. I think the characters are all super vibrant
At least in the X-Men
I was super bored by the Hellfire Club
MIRI: I honestly could not tell you who any of those people were if it weren’t for the more recent men movies
they were boring and not distinctly drawn
(In a character sense, not an animation sense)
CAROLINE: Agreed
I remembered the Hellfire Club being super cool but now I'm not sure if they're better in other episodes or if I was just easily won over as a child
MIRI: I could definietly see them being better in episodes where they’re the focus
CAROLINE: Changing topics: Wolverine saying, "Where's that blasted salami" is maybe the best X-Men moment of all time
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MIRI: I liked Emma’s little fuck you about Phoenix being the new queen
Hahahahahaha that was good
I would argue that his claws are way too spaced out for neat, even slices
CAROLINE: There's something weird going on there for sure
MIRI: Maybe really near the knuckles?
CAROLINE: Maybe he has secret salami powers too
MIRI: I’m going down a dark path of thinking about how much grossness is brought into his body when he retracts the claws after fighting or slicing salami
I mean I know he heals so it’s fine
But ew
CAROLINE: Oh god
MIRI: Right?
CAROLINE: Dark times
MIRI: I’m sorry
CAROLINE: Dark Phoenix times
MIRI: hahahahahhahaa
Nice
CAROLINE: I think the only voice actor I really didn't like is Scott's
MIRI: I could not deal with Xavier’s
CAROLINE: Which is a bummer because he carries a lot of this arc
MIRI: It weirded me out
CAROLINE: Yeah Xavier isn't great either
But it's hard to compare to Patrick Stewart
MIRI: It’s very unfair of me to expect it
I know this
CAROLINE: Who is so throughly Professor X in my head
MIRI: Yeah, between TNG and X-men, he looms damn large in my formative genre culture landscape
M: TNG = Star Trek: The Next Generation, which I was basically raised on
K: Caroline is also a huge Star Trek fan, and last year wrote a Vox explainer/viewing guide for the uninitiated.
CAROLINE: Totally
Should we talk costumes?
MIRI: Yes!
CAROLINE: They're the best
MIRI: First of all, it’s a fun metric on cultural shifts because at least 75% of these guys would be read as gay in the present day
Jean’s mask at the end is really stupid looking and I loved it SO MUCH
That and Wolverine’s mask were just so classic/iconic looking
CAROLINE: Well to be fair that's not her normal outfit in the series
MIRI: Right, it was her super early costume, right?
CAROLINE: She was giving us a little Marvel Girl throwback
Yeah
MIRI: Ohhhhh I totally forgot she was Marvel Girl!
K: Not to be confused with Ms. Marvel, the codename Carol Danvers took in the 70s, and has since been adopted by Kamala Khan. (Carol, an Air Force pilot to be played by Brie Larson in the MCU, is currently Captain Marvel to the superhero community, but Colonel Danvers to the US government. Although maybe Larson’s Carol will just be a Captain Danvers, to avoid general audience confusion?)
CAROLINE: But her regular costume is also kind of ridiculous
K: That’s not a bunch of skin showing, it’s just a confusingly flesh-toned bodysuit. I always liked the crystal (?) in her headband thing though.
M: This isn’t even her “regular” costume but it is something that could not be ignored.
K: It’s not her Phoenix costume but it’s what she wears for most of the series
They LOVED their headgear on TAS
MIRI: Which is presumably why she doesn’t have a hero name, right?
CAROLINE: I believe so
K: I tried to find an official answer, but didn’t dig up anything from a publishing perspective. Story-wise, it didn’t have anything to do with either (the first) Captain or Ms. Marvel. As far as I can tell, Jean first stopped using the codename Marvel Girl when she started calling herself Phoenix, and then some time post-Dark Phoenix, she decided to go by her civilian name. Maybe just because it had been a while since they were really writing her as a “girl”?
MIRI: I liked all of their dark head covering headband things that didn’t cover their faces or hair, but did cover the rest of the head
I don’t know what to call them
CAROLINE: It's a true X-Men staple
And it's so weird to see Gambit without his
MIRI: Like, when I think about it too much I have logic questions. But I love them and don’t want them changed at all
CAROLINE: The costumes are also all straight out of the comics.
K: Mostly designed by Jim Lee in the late 80s, possibly explaining all the shoulder pads. For better or worse (as an admitted non-expert, I think a bit of both), Lee is one of the most influential artists and publishers in the medium, and currently one of the top folks at DC.
MIRI: Storm’s earrings are killer
CAROLINE: Really everything about Storm is amazing
Another voice performance I love
MIRI: Yes! I loved her narration of her powers
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CAROLINE: Haha! Same
So dramatic
Arguably too much so but it totally works
MIRI: Yes! I sat there thinking that I should be annoyed by it, but I just wanted more
I did not love that Rogue’s costume was apparently so shrink-wrapped on that I think I could see her internal organs
CAROLINE: I mean it is but I'm just so into her whole design
I really forgot how much I loved her on this series
MIRI: Yes, the design of the costume is great!
The mullet-ness of the white in her hair is not a styling choice I would make, but she’s free to do her
CAROLINE: Oh also Jean's Phoenix hair is AMAZING
MIRI: I also really liked the space aesthetics
CAROLINE: Keep the powers just for that!
MIRI: Ooh, yes! Both the updo and the big loose look
The guys’ lips were all the same color as the rest of their faces and once I noticed it I couldn’t stop noticing it
CAROLINE: Ha!
I will say, as much as I love many other iterations of the X-Men, these will always be the iconic X-Men looks for me
As I think they are for many people
MIRI: That makes total sense! They’re not entirely for me, but they definitely did resonate
Before the MCU became such a thing, these looks were a lot of the merchandise you saw
And they are just so distinctive
CAROLINE: I LOVE seeing people cosplay in these looks
It brings me such joy
MIRI: I like that they have commonalities without all being in the same exact uniform
Omg, yes!
Even without this era being A Thing for me, I can think of multiple killer Rogue cosplays I’ve taken notice of with this look
CAROLINE: Okay so should we start talking about an era of the X-Men that is a little more iconic for you?
MIRI: Sounds good! But first, I want to say that I feel like you shouldn’t power wash the ancient hieroglyphics tablet nd that was uncool even for villains to do
Also I need a gif of Dark Phoenix saying “I admit nothing”
(Dark Phoenix, Mother of Dragons, the unburnt, breaker of chains, Khaleesi of the great grass sea)
CAROLINE: I need so many GIFs
Mostly the salami one
In Part 2, Miri and Caroline turn to X-Men: Evolution.
X-Men: The Animated Series is streaming on Hulu.
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Marvel's INHUMANS Trailer: 5 Moments Which Prove Marvel TV Has F***ed Up The Property | Inhumans
The Inhumans has had a long and curious journey from comics to the screen. And now it looks like that actor, Iwan Rheon, will continue his villainous streak as Maximus in Marvel's Inhumans. There's finally a full trailer for Marvel's Inhumans, highlighting how a family fracture will serve as one of the focuses for the series. In a just world, where Marvel had the full cinematic rights to all of its franchises, there would be no need to adapt The Inhumans at all.
The series is centered around Black Bolt, with Anson Mount in the role, and other members of the Inhuman Royal Family. Marvel and ABC have finally unveiled the first trailer for its "Inhumans" series. Marvel's Inhumans is real, and it's almost arrived.Our first proper look at the Inhumans TV show is here, and while the trailer is rough, it does give us our first good look at some of the extra characters and wider Inhuman society we can expect to see in Marvel's latest TV show. The series was once scheduled to be a film before being scrapped, and Marvel fans aren't too happy about it.
The first official trailer has been unveiled for Marvel's Inhumans, the upcoming series that introduces us to the Marvel royal family. The first trailer for Marvel's new series Inhumans has dropped, and the Internet has mixed feelings.There are humans and there are Inhumans, a breed of super-powered men and women who are forced to conceal their identity in order to stay away from human grasp. There are humans and there are Inhumans, a breed of super-powered men and women who are forced to conceal their identity in order to stay away from human grasp. You can discover Inhumans from 29 September on ABC. The story concerns the adventures and rivalries of the royal family of the Inhumans. It's basically the Xmen series you do when you don't have the rights to the Xmen. Marvel's Inhumans explores the never-before-told epic adventure of the royal family including Black Bolt, the enigmatic, commanding King of the Inhumans, with a voice so powerful that the slightest whisper can destroy a city. Marvel's Inhumans series dropped its first trailer yesterday [watch it here] and the online reaction has been overwhelmingly negative. The new ABC series debuted its first trailer Thursday, ahead of its premiere on Sept. 29.
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The Superhero Email Chain
A little while back, I exchanged some emails with my buddy Ian regarding the most recent superhero films. Originally I was going to post this article right before the first of the new films came out, but I got distracted. About two weeks ago, I found the file and decided that even though all of the films have been released, you can still find out what Ian and I thought about them before they were released. Here is the superhero email chain in all its glory.
Ian: Alright I am just going to give you my thoughts on all of the upcoming superhero films and put them in order with less likely to likely to flop.
1. Captain America: Civil War- This movie is the least likely to fail. Simply put Marvel has already got a major foundation. They are too big to fail at this point with any of the major avenger characters (Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, and Hulk).
2. X-men: Age of Apocalypse- I also think this is movie will not fail. Fox/Marvel has done a great job with advertising most of their movies and for the most part, they haven’t had any flops. I’m not saying they’ve all been good, but I do believe they are on the correct path. As long as they introduce some new characters and show them off a little I do not see how this movie could be a flop.
3. Deadpool- I rated this one third because I am little bit torn about this film. Ryan Reynolds, in my opinion, is not necessarily meant to play a "Badass" superhero (he bombed with Green Lantern). Although his body of work is solid I am not sure he can pull this off. HOWEVER, Deadpool is not your typical superhero and Ryan may just be the perfect actor for the roll. Also we got a sneak peek of him kind of playing Deadpool in X-men Origins (Weapon XI). Due to his ability to talk and be cocky/annoying I think he may just pull Deadpool off. With that being said I am still on the fence with this film but ultimately, I do NOT think this will flop.
4. Suicide Squad & Batman V.S Superman. – I think that these two are the most to flop and the main reason is due to the credibility of DC. I have not been blown away by any DC movies other than The Dark Knight trilogy. Don't get me wrong the trailers look incredible but I am still not sold.
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Will I eat my words with my statements about DC? Which movie in your case will be most likely to flop? Which movie will most likely be a HIT?
Ryan: I generally I agree with what you've said although I have some follow ups for you on each of the movies.
Captain America: I think Disney/Marvel has found the secret to superhero movie success and as long as people don’t get sick of the genre they will be successful. Personally I love Captain America. I think Chris Evans is awesome and the movies are great. I still think Winter Soldier was better than Avengers 1 and way better than the second Avengers film. So I'm seeing this opening weekend, I'd be shocked if this failed.
X-men: Days of futures past was an awesome movie. And finally they have decided to bring out Apocalypse as a movie super villain; yes I am excited for this movie. My memories of Apocalypse are from the Saturday cartoons and it always brought all of the mutants together for epic battles so this should be great.
Deadpool: I like Ryan Reynolds and think this should be a good movie, he did a fine job in X-men Origins. But this could turn out to be a bad film. Maybe we are reaching the over-saturation point. Are there too many comic book movies?
Suicide Squad: I hope this is good. I very badly want this to be good. It’s a different type of movie. It has Anti-heroes being heroes, that’s cool. Please be a good movie. Important side note: What was the last good Will Smith Action movie?
Batman vs. Superman: I think this is a stupid movie concept. I know they face off in comic books and Batman always wins, but it seems stupid that Superman would lose. Part of me wants this movie to do well. Batman is my favorite Superhero and I like Ben Affleck and think he’s a good actor. But Superman sucks. He’s sooooo good at everything, how is he going to lose to Batman? The guy's only power is money. I know the plan is to build off of this movie and start a Justice League Franchise (too many superhero movies???) but why would Superman actually need the Justice League? Superman's sidekick should just be a normal guy who shows up and takes away kryptonite from the villains, that’s the only thing he needs help with. All that being said I liked Man of Steel but I am worried this movie is not going to be good. When my mother saw the preview she said, "That’s dumb. How can Batman fight Superman?" For a superhero movie to do well you need non-fanboys to see it, and I don’t see that happening with either DC movie.
Here is what I want to know:
How is DC going to build a Justice league? They’ve already bombed with Green Lantern. Are they going to bring out Aquaman? Is Wonder Women going to get her own movies? What would the ideal..... Ignore those questions, here is the real question. Do people really care about the Justice League? Is anyone excited about these movies? Do you care?
What is the plan with X-Men? They have screwed up the timeline of the movies and they have jumped all over the place, and they beat Wolverine like a dead horse. What X-men need to get standalone movies? Or what story line do you want to see?
I don’t like Superman, do you?
Ian: The last good Will Smith movie was I am legend btw lol. People, do care about the justice league for a couple reasons.
1. For the most part everyone knows Batman and Superman... they might be the most popular superheroes in either universe (DC or Marvel).
2. Generations- I know that my mom loves DC way more than marvel so in her book I can almost guarantee that she is excited for them.
3. I think people (non-nerds) don't even know the difference between Marvel and DC. They classify superheroes as one big group. Personally I am more a marvel fan but I would love to see Justice League be successful just to see how another superhero conglomerate will play out.
XMEN- I will admit to being biased towards X-men, they are my favorite!! I love them unconditionally and would love to see a lot more movies. But they need a Gambit movie. I think there are plans but the actor is that guy from step up (Channing Tatum)........ damn that sucks. They definitely need to stop and go in a different direction. Personally, I think there best move is to constantly introduce new characters because seeing new abilities is awesome. I agree with you on Superman. To me he is to powerful and it doesn’t seem possible that he could be defeated. People talk about Hulk vs Superman as a good battle but I would think Superman would win that fight too.
What about Ant-man vs Superman? He takes a tiny piece of kryptonite and sticks it inside his brain…BOOM done!!!
Who do you think should get their movie or story line? How could we beat Superman? What is the difference between Wonder Women and Super Girl?
Ryan: Okay, Let start with the easiest question Wonder Women vs. Super Girl: Wonder Women is the leader of the Amazons and her powers are super strength, the lasso of truth, and bracelets that deflect bullets. I think she also has an invisible plane, not sure if this counts as a power. Super Girl is Superman's cousin and depending on the source she’s either as strong, or slightly stronger than Superman. At some point Wonder Women was given the power of flight which then confuses people.
I love the X-men movies as well and Gambit was always my second favorite (Wolverine is #1). And so far they've only had Gambit in one movie, the Wolverine Origins movie. The part was played by Taylor Kitsch, and I thought he did a pretty good job. At the time, I was hoping they'd start having Gambit in more movies. But so far, no Gambit anywhere, he’s still only been in one film. And now I find out they are going to have Channing Tatum play Gambit. WTF? I am not excited about that. Nothing against Tatum, but I do not see him as a good fit for Gambit.
The one X-man who should be getting their own show is Bobby Drake the Iceman. Iceman is cool as hell, he should be next. Channing Tatum? Yuck, that just ruined my day. Who should they cast as Gambit? Who would be a better option?
I hope they don’t go with a Cyclops movie; I’ve always hated that guy.
Superman could defeat every other hero out there including the Hulk that’s why he’s so lame. Why would anyone try and fight him?
I do like your Ant-Man idea, have you seen the new Ant-man movie?
Here’s how you beat Superman.... kryptonite! If you don’t have it, then you don’t bother.
Do you think Wonder Women should get her own movie? Is Aquaman next? What other thoughts do you have about the DC universe Justice League?
Just based on the movies, what is the coolest X-men power? Which power would you choose? And which X-man has the lamest power?
Ian: To start I did not know that about Wonder Women and that is a very good point! I would say the Taylor Kitsch should play gambit, not Channing Tatum. Wonder Women should get her own movie as long as they stick with Gol Gadot, she is smoking HOT. Aquaman would be interesting, but how would they do it and would it be cheesy?
The main reason that I would want to see Justice League is to see Marvel vs DC.... probably never happen but what if???
Who are the stupidest X-men? How about the guy with the spikes that come out of his head?!? Dumb! How would that even be useful?
Also I think toad was a little stupid as well. His powers were a frog tongue and jumping, lame! Angel, the guy with the wings is somewhat lame. Sure flying would be cool but what else can he do?
Badass powers- Wolverine’s ability to heal is cool but when he gets metal claws he becomes awesome. What about Gambit and his kinetic energy!??!?!? AWESOME, anything becomes a weapon... and I love the idea of throwing playing cards. Emma Frost’s diamond skin is really cool it’s basically impenetrable. I wouldn't mind having that depending on how it works.
Same question to you, just based on the movies, what is the coolest X-men power? Which power would you choose? And which X-men have the lamest power? And if you could be one superhero who would it be and why based on style and being a badass. Here’s the ultimate superhero question, who would be your pick to save the world?
Ryan: The DC universe worries me, Superman is lame and so is everyone else except Batman. But I will give DC a chance and see how it turns out. Aquaman is by far the worst I have no idea how that’s going to work out. They are of course going to have to bring Green Lantern back again, which might be hard with one movie bomb under his belt already. I think they should go with John Stewart who was the guy from the Justice league Cartoon.
So I do have some questions about a few powers: What’s the deal with Magneto? He appears to have unlimited abilities as long as it has to do with metal. They never even really talk about if it has to be magnetic. He just always has control over it. He also has some crazy control over what he can do with it. In the most recent movie he was able to bend and flex metal to the point that it infected circuits and allowed him to control robots. How would that even work?
Wolverine's healing powers just seem to have no bounds. The dude can heal himself regardless of the injuries. It’s so insane, he’s basically immortal.
I feel Gambit would be a really cool movie guy. Why haven't they had him in every film? And Taylor would have been a solid choice. Just wait Channing will awesome and this whole chain will look stupid because we both doubted him.
I am going to blow your mind: The worst X-man is Cyclops. While his powers are okay and probably pretty effective, there is just something about him that I hate. He's the worst, he dates the coolest lady mutant, everyone thinks he’s the leader, and I just don’t get it because he’s such a freaking loser. Go away Cyclops no one likes you.
The worst power was that guy with the spikes. I checked and he is listed as a Kid Omega, but the comic book version doesn’t have any spike powers he instead has cognitive and telepathic abilities. So that appears to have been a movie creation. Don't forget about the kid from the second movie who had the power to change the channels on the TV without getting up. Which is either the worst power or best, I’d have to think about.
If I could pick any hero the answer would be Batman. It’s not even really close. Batman is freaking awesome. Wolverine and Gambit would be 2nd and 3rd.
Batman can do it all. He is the most badass hero. He has the ultimate villain in the Joker. His gadgets are awesome. Its batman! He is also the hero to whom we all could hypothetically strive to be, he doesn’t have any “powers” he just has gadgets and he’s smart. This is also the reason that I hate the Justice league. It takes the most realistic superhero, and puts him into a weird ass world with Superman and Green lantern, guys with powers from other planets.
Out of all the superhero movies which are your favorites so far?
Ian: Magneto apparently is a BEAST; you seem to be correct in that his ability is endless. To me he would be one hell of a guy to try to defeat. If you have too much iron in your body he will kill you from the inside. I cannot really explain the control over robots unless they were 90% made out of metal. On top of all that how smart is the guy... he can control 10 robots while still talking and having an in depth conversation. I think it is safe to say he is a GENIUS.
Wolverine- I think his powers are pretty unreal however from what I have heard if his head is cut CLEAR off then he will not come back. IS his SPINE MADE OUT OF THAT ONE METAL?
Gambit- I have no clue why he has not been in more movies. And I agree that maybe we will have to shut our mouths and Channing will be great haha.
Cyclops- You d0 have a good point, he is kind of a preppy prick. Like a quarterback. I agree his powers are OK.... however they seem unpredictable and hard to control... almost to the point of pointlessness.
What are my favorite superhero movies? Here is the list:
Guardians of the galaxy- Story was GREAT and I love Chris Pratt in that role. He does a great job. While the characters theoretically may be weak compared with other superheroes they are pretty cool.
League or Extraordinary Gentleman- Older DC comics movie however I thought it was great and I love those scary fairy taillish people and I loved it when I was younger, the movie the idea everything.
X-Men Last Stand- Three words: SO MANY XMEN!!
It’s hard for me to come up with some more- all the Avengers movies and Marvel characters are good in their own ways.
What are your favorite superhero movies?
Ryan: Okay, I'd like to talk about a couple of movies that are underrated or not talked about at all.
Spider-Man 3- The first two movies are really awesome and they for sure screwed up the third one, mainly because they tried to do too much. They should have made it Venom vs. Spidy movie. Instead they added in Sandman (who the hell is this guy anyways) and there was too much going on with Harry Osbourne, three villains is just too much. But this is actually a pretty okay film, it’s better than its reputation.
The Amazing Spider-man- I think this series is actually pretty good. They killed Peter Parker's love interest too soon, which made everyone mad. And now they are scrapping this and trying again with a new guy? Too much Spider-man, personally I'm starting to get sick of him.
Mystery Men- This is goofy 90's spoof movie, but it has an awesome cast headlined by Ben Stiller and Geoffrey Rush. If you haven’t seen this movie, you should.
The Hulk movie with Edward Norten - I like Mark Rufflo as the hulk, but Edward Norten did a damn good job when he took over the flaming wreck that Eric Bana left behind. It’s not that people don’t like this movie, most people didn’t watch it because the first was so bad.
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen- I agree with you, I like this film.
Batman (1989)/Batman Returns- These have been lost to time because of the Dark Knight trilogy. This is current conversation:
-"Heath Ledger is the best joker ever."
- "Have you ever seen Jack Nicholson in Batman (1989), he was really good."
- "No."
-"Then how can you say that?"
-"Heath Ledger is the best joker ever."
People should check these two movies out, they are pretty good. Plus I like Kim Basinger.
Here is my current top 5.
1. Captain America 2
2. Guardians of the Galaxy
3. Dark Knight
4. X-men Days of future past
5. Mystery Men
Ian: I totally agree with the Spiderman comment and just getting to much of him right now. I think it’s definitely Sony trying to make a money grab. However, I will say I do like the new actor that they have playing spider man. Mainly because he looks and acts how I imagine Peter Parker would act.
Mystery Men!!! So funny I actually had to scroll down to see if I talked about mystery men as one of my top ones. I was honestly going to put in on there because it is so goofy and way out of the norm.
The first Hulk movie was bad and I do think that this turned away fans even though the second movie was better. I almost wish they would re-do it and go more into his story because I find him really interesting.
I do laugh at all the people that talk about the joker. I would say that 75% don't even know that Jack Nicholson played the joker. And that part in the restaurant when he paints everything, it’s a classic joker move.
Ryan: Well I think it’s safe to say that we are both like superheroes way too much. But this year of superhero movies should be interesting to say the least.
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X-Men - The Movie
I’ve been wanting to rewatch the XMen films for a while, and I’ve been particularly in the mood for it lately. So, I think I’m gonna go through all nine (ten - do I count Deadpool?) films over the next few weeks. I’ll tag: xmen, as usual since I figure a majority of you don’t care.
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I first saw X-Men when I was a teenager in high school, and there weren’t really superhero movies unless you count Superman (which was really outdated at that point) and Batman (most of which were....not that great). So, this was the first big superhero movie that /worked/ - and kind of spawned what superhero movies were to become. And the film rejuvenated a near failing x-line and Marvel. I loved the movie back then, having only watched the cartoon before hand, I had no knowledge of the comics. And it really got me into the X-Men - more than just being a fan of the show when I was a kid. I picked up a comic book for the first time when I was 16.
But now here we are, nearly twenty years later (damn), me having read a ton of comics, and have had the entire weight of the XMen franchise and MCU behind me and, well, hm.... It’s not a bad movie. But I don’t think it’s a particularly great movie either. I think the biggest problem is that it hasn’t aged well. It’s very much a product of its time, and it shows.
Pros:
The message X-Men has always stood there is very much there. Mutants are feared and hated and it’s allegorical for any minority group ever. It’s still a resonate theme for even today.
Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen are perfect in their roles Professor Xavier and Magneto respectively. The highlights of the film are when these two are in a scene together, a few of which are sprinkled throughout the film. (My favorite being Xavier and Magneto’s standoff with the police, the one time the movie really showcased the two’s powers against each other.) You would think that it might have made more sense to start the franchise based on these two characters alone.... oh wait....
Also - I kind of love that Xavier, even in the movie-verse, is fucking with everyone��s head.
Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine. It’s funny because I think he actually grows more into the part and more comic-book Wolverine as the franchise goes on, but it’s mostly solid here.
Rogue’s aesthetic. I don’t mind Anna Paquin’s performance of a young Rogue, even if I miss my sassy grown up Rogue of the comics. But she definitely looked like Rogue. And that was pretty cool.
Wolverine and Rogue’s friendship. Man, I wish they had built more on that. There could be a whole movie just with the two of them - and that would have been fun.
Famke Janssen as Jean Grey. She does the role really well, even if I wish that even Jean was more developed. She also really looks the part, man...
The kid who played Iceman works! I’m sorry there was so little of him, but he’s good in the role.
I like the Rogue/Iceman friendship. I don’t necessarily by the romantic angle set up in other films (Iceman is gay and Rogue has better chemistry with other people) but they do have a comic friendship that’s a pretty cool dynamic. And I think that plays out well on screen here.
The little Easter eggs for the comic fans. I get them all now. Not sure what that says about me but -- yay!!
There are some really good one-liners.
The few times the X-Men actually worked as a team was really fun.
The school set - damn. That is so the school.
Cons:
One of the things I think really helped MCU is that they didn’t start with The Avengers. They started with Iron Man and Captain America and Thor’s individual stories and built on them until they led up to The Avengers. While I realize this was never going to work with X-Men (I mean, X-Men is a team book and people probably wouldn’t have wanted solo series first), I think one draw back to this film is that it can’t properly give the characters the fleshing out they deserve because it’s only two hours. And the pantheon of characters who deserve to be focus would never be able to fit in a twenty hour film let alone two. (I understand the central focus of Wolverine, but it makes me miss development of nearly every other character.)
Case in point - Cyclops and Storm are incredible characters and they’re all but lifeless here. At least James Marsden gets the feel of Cyclops, even if he’s barely developed. Halle Berry’s Storm though - well - I think it’s pretty universally panned.
(Storm is so amazing and deserves so much more.)
This film completely lacks any energy and feels incredibly slow paced. I get I’m now spoiled by the high-adrenaline of the MCU, but, idk, this movie really drags. The characters have such interesting powers - it’s a shame we didn’t really get them more in-depth.
The special effects are incredibly dated, to the point where some are really cringe-worthy. Also, Wolverine’s claws.... eesh...
The brotherhood of (evil) mutants feels lacking. I understand why they went with who they went with (Sabretooth, Mystique, Toad) but none of them are developed enough for me to care.
Which brings me to - I feel like there’s no real tension in the film? The plot is classic in that it’s Xavier vs Magneto’s dueling ideologies about mutants and humans coexisting. But I guess I don’t really feel the threat? Maybe because so many of these characters have such great inner conflicts that that seems like the more interesting avenue to go down.
The Jean/Wolverine hint of romance. Wolverine isn’t a flirty character, and I don’t really buy it in any incarnation.
Most of Rogue’s actions don’t make any sense. Why does she run to Canada? Because she needs to be there to meet Wolverine. Why does she sneak into Wolverine’s room? Because Wolverine needs to stab her and she can steal his power. Why does Rogue believe fake Bobby? Because she has to get on that train. I mean - Rogue is a runner by nature, but it feels like 90% of her actions are plot driven and not necessarily logical.
Other Things:
Doctor Jean Grey. Ha. I had forgotten they made her a Dr. It’s fine - mean more power to women with power. Just -- Jean, no. And it made me miss Beast.
When Wolverine is wondering around the school near the beginning, I kept waiting for Hugh Jackman to break out into song.
The movie is aesthetically dark - as I believe it was trying to move away from the brightly colored spandex of the comics. I get why they went there, so not really a con. But I do miss the bright colors.
Not entirely sure why they needed to explain the coloring of Rogue’s hair. But it’s an interesting little addition. She doesn’t feel like Rogue without the white streak though.
Why is Mystique completely naked? In the comics she wheres a white, flowy dress. She needs her white, flowy dress to be Mystique. Idk...
Final thoughts: I’m giving it a 6/10. The movie feels like a basic introduction to so many other interesting things. While not bad, in general, doesn’t hold up well after all this time. And with the exception of Wolverine, the characters just feel so flat.
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Marvel's INHUMANS Trailer: 5 Moments Which Prove Marvel TV Has F***ed Up The Property | Inhumans
The series was once scheduled to be a film before being scrapped, and Marvel fans aren't too happy about it. The Inhumans has had a long and curious journey from comics to the screen. Game of Thrones fans loved to hate Ramsay Bolton. The first trailer for the upcoming series, Inhumans, has been released.
There's finally a full trailer for Marvel's Inhumans, highlighting how a family fracture will serve as one of the focuses for the series. Marvel and ABC have finally unveiled the first trailer for its "Inhumans" series. It's basically the Xmen series you do when you don't have the rights to the Xmen.You can discover Inhumans from 29 September on ABC. The story concerns the adventures and rivalries of the royal family of the Inhumans. Our first proper look at the Inhumans TV show is here, and while the trailer is rough, it does give us our first good look at some of the extra characters and wider Inhuman society we can expect to see in Marvel's latest TV show.
The first official trailer has been unveiled for Marvel's Inhumans, the upcoming series that introduces us to the Marvel royal family. Marvel's Inhumans is real, and it's almost arrived.The new ABC series debuted its first trailer Thursday, ahead of its premiere on Sept. 29. Marvel's Inhumans explores the never-before-told epic adventure of the royal family including Black Bolt, the enigmatic, commanding King of the Inhumans, with a voice so powerful that the slightest whisper can destroy a city. There are humans and there are Inhumans, a breed of super-powered men and women who are forced to conceal their identity in order to stay away from human grasp. Just over a month after we all wigged out over Medusa's hair, Marvel and ABC have released the first full trailer for the upcoming INHUMANS series. Marvel's Inhumans series dropped its first trailer yesterday [watch it here] and the online reaction has been overwhelmingly negative. The first trailer for Marvel's new series Inhumans has dropped, and the Internet has mixed feelings. There are humans and there are Inhumans, a breed of super-powered men and women who are forced to conceal their identity in order to stay away from human grasp.
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Marvel's INHUMANS Trailer: 5 Moments Which Prove Marvel TV Has F***ed Up The Property | Inhumans
The new ABC series debuted its first trailer Thursday, ahead of its premiere on Sept. 29. The Inhumans has had a long and curious journey from comics to the screen. In a just world, where Marvel had the full cinematic rights to all of its franchises, there would be no need to adapt The Inhumans at all. And now it looks like that actor, Iwan Rheon, will continue his villainous streak as Maximus in Marvel's Inhumans.
Marvel's Inhumans series dropped its first trailer yesterday [watch it here] and the online reaction has been overwhelmingly negative. The first trailer for Marvel's new series Inhumans has dropped, and the Internet has mixed feelings. Marvel and ABC have finally unveiled the first trailer for its "Inhumans" series.The first trailer for the upcoming series, Inhumans, has been released. The series is centered around Black Bolt, with Anson Mount in the role, and other members of the Inhuman Royal Family.
You can discover Inhumans from 29 September on ABC. The story concerns the adventures and rivalries of the royal family of the Inhumans. There's finally a full trailer for Marvel's Inhumans, highlighting how a family fracture will serve as one of the focuses for the series.There are humans and there are Inhumans, a breed of super-powered men and women who are forced to conceal their identity in order to stay away from human grasp. The series was once scheduled to be a film before being scrapped, and Marvel fans aren't too happy about it. Marvel's Inhumans explores the never-before-told epic adventure of the royal family including Black Bolt, the enigmatic, commanding King of the Inhumans, with a voice so powerful that the slightest whisper can destroy a city. Game of Thrones fans loved to hate Ramsay Bolton. Just over a month after we all wigged out over Medusa's hair, Marvel and ABC have released the first full trailer for the upcoming INHUMANS series. There are humans and there are Inhumans, a breed of super-powered men and women who are forced to conceal their identity in order to stay away from human grasp. Our first proper look at the Inhumans TV show is here, and while the trailer is rough, it does give us our first good look at some of the extra characters and wider Inhuman society we can expect to see in Marvel's latest TV show.
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Marvel's INHUMANS Trailer: 5 Moments Which Prove Marvel TV Has F***ed Up The Property | Inhumans
The series is centered around Black Bolt, with Anson Mount in the role, and other members of the Inhuman Royal Family. You can discover Inhumans from 29 September on ABC. The story concerns the adventures and rivalries of the royal family of the Inhumans. The Inhumans has had a long and curious journey from comics to the screen. The first trailer for the upcoming series, Inhumans, has been released.
There's finally a full trailer for Marvel's Inhumans, highlighting how a family fracture will serve as one of the focuses for the series. Marvel and ABC have finally unveiled the first trailer for its "Inhumans" series. Game of Thrones fans loved to hate Ramsay Bolton.Just over a month after we all wigged out over Medusa's hair, Marvel and ABC have released the first full trailer for the upcoming INHUMANS series. Marvel's Inhumans series dropped its first trailer yesterday [watch it here] and the online reaction has been overwhelmingly negative.
And now it looks like that actor, Iwan Rheon, will continue his villainous streak as Maximus in Marvel's Inhumans. The new ABC series debuted its first trailer Thursday, ahead of its premiere on Sept. 29.The first official trailer has been unveiled for Marvel's Inhumans, the upcoming series that introduces us to the Marvel royal family. There are humans and there are Inhumans, a breed of super-powered men and women who are forced to conceal their identity in order to stay away from human grasp. Marvel's Inhumans explores the never-before-told epic adventure of the royal family including Black Bolt, the enigmatic, commanding King of the Inhumans, with a voice so powerful that the slightest whisper can destroy a city. It's basically the Xmen series you do when you don't have the rights to the Xmen. Our first proper look at the Inhumans TV show is here, and while the trailer is rough, it does give us our first good look at some of the extra characters and wider Inhuman society we can expect to see in Marvel's latest TV show. Marvel's Inhumans is real, and it's almost arrived. The first trailer for Marvel's new series Inhumans has dropped, and the Internet has mixed feelings.
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Marvel's INHUMANS Trailer: 5 Moments Which Prove Marvel TV Has F***ed Up The Property | Inhumans
And now it looks like that actor, Iwan Rheon, will continue his villainous streak as Maximus in Marvel's Inhumans. It's basically the Xmen series you do when you don't have the rights to the Xmen. The first official trailer has been unveiled for Marvel's Inhumans, the upcoming series that introduces us to the Marvel royal family. Marvel's Inhumans is real, and it's almost arrived.
Marvel's Inhumans explores the never-before-told epic adventure of the royal family including Black Bolt, the enigmatic, commanding King of the Inhumans, with a voice so powerful that the slightest whisper can destroy a city. The first trailer for the upcoming series, Inhumans, has been released. There are humans and there are Inhumans, a breed of super-powered men and women who are forced to conceal their identity in order to stay away from human grasp.The series is centered around Black Bolt, with Anson Mount in the role, and other members of the Inhuman Royal Family. In a just world, where Marvel had the full cinematic rights to all of its franchises, there would be no need to adapt The Inhumans at all.
Game of Thrones fans loved to hate Ramsay Bolton. Just over a month after we all wigged out over Medusa's hair, Marvel and ABC have released the first full trailer for the upcoming INHUMANS series.The new ABC series debuted its first trailer Thursday, ahead of its premiere on Sept. 29. You can discover Inhumans from 29 September on ABC. The story concerns the adventures and rivalries of the royal family of the Inhumans. The Inhumans has had a long and curious journey from comics to the screen. There are humans and there are Inhumans, a breed of super-powered men and women who are forced to conceal their identity in order to stay away from human grasp. The first trailer for Marvel's new series Inhumans has dropped, and the Internet has mixed feelings. The series was once scheduled to be a film before being scrapped, and Marvel fans aren't too happy about it. Our first proper look at the Inhumans TV show is here, and while the trailer is rough, it does give us our first good look at some of the extra characters and wider Inhuman society we can expect to see in Marvel's latest TV show.
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Marvel's INHUMANS Trailer: 5 Moments Which Prove Marvel TV Has F***ed Up The Property | Inhumans
There are humans and there are Inhumans, a breed of super-powered men and women who are forced to conceal their identity in order to stay away from human grasp. The new ABC series debuted its first trailer Thursday, ahead of its premiere on Sept. 29. Marvel's Inhumans is real, and it's almost arrived. Our first proper look at the Inhumans TV show is here, and while the trailer is rough, it does give us our first good look at some of the extra characters and wider Inhuman society we can expect to see in Marvel's latest TV show.
Marvel and ABC have finally unveiled the first trailer for its "Inhumans" series. Marvel's Inhumans explores the never-before-told epic adventure of the royal family including Black Bolt, the enigmatic, commanding King of the Inhumans, with a voice so powerful that the slightest whisper can destroy a city. The Inhumans has had a long and curious journey from comics to the screen.The series is centered around Black Bolt, with Anson Mount in the role, and other members of the Inhuman Royal Family. You can discover Inhumans from 29 September on ABC. The story concerns the adventures and rivalries of the royal family of the Inhumans.
The first trailer for the upcoming series, Inhumans, has been released. Just over a month after we all wigged out over Medusa's hair, Marvel and ABC have released the first full trailer for the upcoming INHUMANS series.The series was once scheduled to be a film before being scrapped, and Marvel fans aren't too happy about it. It's basically the Xmen series you do when you don't have the rights to the Xmen. The first official trailer has been unveiled for Marvel's Inhumans, the upcoming series that introduces us to the Marvel royal family. In a just world, where Marvel had the full cinematic rights to all of its franchises, there would be no need to adapt The Inhumans at all. Marvel's Inhumans series dropped its first trailer yesterday [watch it here] and the online reaction has been overwhelmingly negative. And now it looks like that actor, Iwan Rheon, will continue his villainous streak as Maximus in Marvel's Inhumans. There's finally a full trailer for Marvel's Inhumans, highlighting how a family fracture will serve as one of the focuses for the series.
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