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“Venka remained an open question, a traitor and an ally both at once, which was the only way Rin could bear to remember her.”
#ive given up and resigned to have my brain consumed#venka is actually a character so close to me i might’ve cried a couple times with this#the way her arc is done breaks me fr#despite all the many ways we get the message on the story that war is hell and nobody ever wins for me her was the one that hurt the most#her anger and her resentment are so dear to me and i just love her too much#(btw if you’re a short hair venka enthusiast sorry i wend very self indulgent on this one)#rf kuang#the burning god#the dragon republic#the poppy war#tpw#venka#sring venka#okyu's fever art
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Finally watched Kung Fu Panda 4, tell me why it unironically changed my life
#I've never seen four movies work so well together#po's DADS#subliminal messaging about generational trauma but it's okay because it's a positive message#yes so interesting how po actually does have a lot in common with his enemies but he always chooses peace and understanding#crazy how some empathy goes a long way#the chameleon fr built her own empire so she could have stairs that were a good proportion for her size like#notice how the rabbits are treated in the movie and it will all make sense#except for those creepy ass happy tree friends bunnies what was up with that#they were hilarious though don't get me wrong#TAI LUNG'S CHARACTER ARC#i luv tai lung sm#i thought they were only going to have the shapeshifted version of him in the movie and it would be a cop out but omg i was mistaken#he actually came back and took accountability and actually complimented po and understood what it actually means to be a dragon warrior#then when he took the chameleon into the spirit realm he was doing what was done to him because he understood the chameleon but also po#also all of zhen's parallels to po it was so cool to see how someone who was not as soft and open minded could also be the dragon warrior#WTF MR BEAST WAS IN THIS MOVIE#But he played the panda pig that was being assessed on being a potential dragon warrior#aka blantantly impersonating someone who's seen as a good person for clout#also idk if the character being a pig has anything to do with it maybe a subtle gesture but obviously there are lots of pig villagers#i dont like mr beast and idk i just feel like there's a deeper reason why he's listed in the cast when he maybe had one line#did he pay to be in this movie...did he like know what the character would be#am i looking too much into it help#also also since you've read this far okay hear me out bryan cranston was in this movie right#hes also walter white#so he has huge range as an actor in that sense#you know who else has range#joaquin phoenix#he played joker and kenai in brother bear#YEAH BROTHER BEAR IKR#but like...brother bear. breaking bad! idk i just feel like there's a connection there why so many b's and why am i obsessing over this help
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You + Me = three pt 2
Summary: headcannons of Touya as an official dad
warnings: Language, mentions of murder (☝️💀) and Touya needing to be protected at all costs (as usual 😩)
It’s a daughter
And he’s never been more happy
He can’t really explain why he wanted a daughter so bad
But he was beyond ecstatic when he got to hold her for the first time
As said before, if he could cry, he would
He’d definitely be a protective dad
Like besides you NO ONE can hold his little princess 🙅♀️
Because “no mf you’ll DROP HER, or she’ll get ANXIOUS, or ILL GET ANXIOUS”
But at the same time
Yk those memes that are like “dad vs mom” and the mom is cuddling the baby, and the dad is like treating it like a ragdoll? Slinging it over his shoulder and stuff?
Yeah that’s him too.
A year in you walk into the living room
And he’s got your daughter upside down
Walking on her hands
While he holds her ankles
“She wanted to do a hand stand”
And he’d shrug like it wasn’t an ACTUAL BABY
Like everyone else would treat her irresponsibly but him
And that mindset of his never goes away
Can you imagine when his daughter is a teenager?
Bringing a boy home?
I think the fuck not 😤
He’ll either threaten the kid
Or like actually burn him.
Like fr
He’s a villain okay
But he’s got his priorities straight at least
Bc the boy was probably gonna try and use her anyways 😤
At least according to Touya
So he deserved it 🧍
Moving on from child murder
Back to baby hc’s
He’d totally steal naps with the baby when he can
He’s not even tired
But holding his baby
And having her fall asleep in his arms?
An elevated experience for him
ESPECIALLY if it means you can catch a break
Buuuuut
Nap time with baby AND you?
He’s in heaven.
His two favorite people
The two people in the world he would protect at any cost
And he gets to cuddle with them 🥹
I think on a serious note though
The experience of being a dad
And raising a kid with you
Definitely made him think about a few things
Like
Revenge didn’t feel worth it anymore.
If it meant he’d die in a few months
And leave you two behind?
Nah
Bc having you two
Was the best thing to happen to him
Because
He didn’t want to die for you
He wanted to live for you
So what was the point in dying in such a terrible way?
So his daughter could grow up without her dad?
Absolutely not.
So
Should he have a family with you
That revenge he’d been working towards would be obsolete
All that energy that he stored up
For the moment he’d destroy the lives of his father and those who wronged him?
That energy is being put to better use now
Now he’s making time to take his daughter on walks so you can rest
And making her and you pancakes every morning
Every single day
As his daughter gets older and older, he definitely opens up about the things he’s done
He’d been in a shell for so long
Hiding himself from people
That he never wanted to do that again
At least not with you or your daughter
And once again
Another moment where if he could he’d cry?
Is when his daughter smiles
And says she understands
Just like you did all those years ago when he told you
Because now he had a family
An actual family
Who loved and understood him
And he’ll be holding onto these moments
That he considers ever so sacred and precious
Till the day he finally drops dead
Ughhhh Dad Touya has my heart I fear 🖐️😭 having a whole redemption arc for the sake of his family bc Enji never did that for him 💔💔💔
#bnha dabi#mha dabi#touya x reader#bnha touya#dabi x reader#mha touya#touya todoroki#dabi headcanons#touya headcanons#Spotify
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atla live action thoughts: episodes 3 & 4
SPOILERS AHEAD
tw: opinions
things i liked:
jet, you beautiful, beautiful man. had me twirling my hair and kicking my feet fr i NEED this show to get a season 2 just so i can see more of him in the ba sing se arc please netflix
but looks aside, sebastian amoruso DELIVERED on the performance. the softness, the vulnerability, the charm, the intelligence, yet also the ruthlessness beneath it all? KILLED IT.
the moment between him and katara where he tells her to remember her mother as she was alive and not just her death was absolutely lovely. “remember the sunrise” made me very emotional
on that note, can’t believe jetara fake marriage is canon now lmao
i am SO here for desi omashu. i love the vibe and aesthetic of the city and again the visuals are STUNNING. live action repping the south asians better than the original ever did i’ll be honest
shameless fan service but “MY CABBAGES” being so fucking dramatic had me dying
of all the things i expected from the atla live action, secret tunnel and omashu being lesbians wasn’t even on the list but i’m not mad. hilarious that they turned the cave of two lovers into the cave of two platonic siblings though
jet, omashu and northern air temple arcs actually meshed together better than i thought. the NAT episode never sat well with me in the original so i’m glad they moved them to omashu instead.
the freedom fighters were RIGHT OUT OF THE ANIMATION. casting directors absolutely killed
love that they showed resistance movements within the fire nation and azula being part of rooting them out. it’s a nice nod to the deserter, since i’m guessing they’re not including that episode
really glad to see that the atla live action is following the tradition of having weirdly unnecessary zutara crumbs in every iteration of the story because what in the om shanti om was that zutara scarf moment. 10/10 no notes
having one of the earthbenders transporting iroh be angry over losing a loved one because of iroh’s siege of ba sing se was a really great change. i’ve always thought the original glossed over the true extent of the damage iroh did, so having him come face to face with what he’d done in the past was a great way to add some complexity
“how dare you beat up that child!” everyone go home seeing zuko being beat up by a random old lady is the highlight of this series. really love that they were just running around throwing things at each other that was major book 1 zuko/aang fight energy lmao
SECRET TUNNELLLLLLLL
leaves from the vine instrumental was 100% to inflict emotional damage and it fucking worked. the scene between zuko and iroh at lu ten’s funeral was so beautiful & then to have it flipped around at the end when iroh says “everything i need is on this boat”… fuck you for this netflix i didn’t need these tears today
things i disliked/am conflicted about:
not a fan of what they’re doing with katara’s character. they’re toning down a lot of her rage and fierceness, and boiling her down to “trauma over mother’s death.” in the original katara didn’t freeze jet and splash water at him because he tried to fight her, she did it because she was hurt and pissed off! there’s no way animated katara would’ve just run away from jet without sending a water whip at his face first. i’m concerned for how the pakku fight is gonna go tbh
bumi my guy, what did they do to you 💀 this series seems hellbent on having everyone remind aang that he ran away which doesn’t work when a) you already changed aang actively running away to him just going off for a break and b) you’ve made that point! the original omashu episode was about bumi teaching aang to look at the world differently, here it just weirdly feels as though he’s punishing aang by venting all his anger and despair on him?? that’s NOT what animated bumi was like & they didn’t even have the two of them go sliding down the delivery system in the flashbacks so adding it in at the end felt very out of nowhere. they didn’t even genuinely seem to be FRIENDS
having aang immediately figure out it was bumi was… sigh. can we please not do the thing where characters already know everything it’s giving me trauma flashbacks to the percy jackson show
jet’s plan feels more reasonable here than it did in the original. i get they’re trying to show that he didn’t care about the collateral damage to innocent people and that’s bad, but idk him wiping out an entire town unilaterally felt more extreme than a few bombings.
heavily dislike what they’ve done with zhao. i know they’re trying to show him clawing his way to power but that’s more of a long feng move than a ZHAO move. it’s important that zhao always holds more power than zuko and that he has an overinflated sense of ego from the start for him to fulfil his narrative purpose of serving as a warning to zuko of what he might become.
i like seeing mailee but why are they in this show? it feels as though they’re cardboard cutouts there for fan service instead of being actual characters
overall i liked these episodes better than the previous two & i do enjoy how action-packed and visually pleasing the show has been so far.
overall rating: 8/10 for episode 3, 7/10 for episode 4
#atla live action#zutara#i put these two episodes together since they felt like a two parter#also yes i gave into the urge to binge
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Sorry for double asking but what makes you like Zoya?? I feel like what I’m about to say is gonna get me sniped or outcasted but I don’t get the appeal of her. Like she attractive and hot but I honestly just can’t see her that way lowkey. I do admire her for wanting to change syndicate even if she knows the way isn’t through violence (which is something she’s know all her life) and is honestly willing to put her trust in this newbie, literally just woke up a week ago, chief. Cuz she sees that there’s a way forward through them for her and her people. Like it’s fascinating(?) to see her be able to look past the experience that the chief does not have and give them a chance, a footing if you will, in a world that doesn’t really want them. And literally put her life on the line and reputation too just so they can start making a difference.
Hopefully that reads coherently, honestly first time really writing down my thoughts like this in a while so hopefully it’s not a bunch of nonsense.
Tho…. I do think her an Bai Yi should sloppy, mouth open, kiss on the bike that she has. Can you imagine the soft sex they could have when Bai Yi got her out of the BR and she brought her back to her place or an hideout of some sort. Bai Yi telling her she’s an idiot while she patches up her wounds and probably even gives her bath too. After get her all cleaned and bandaged up she finally breaks down to which she’s kinda embarrassed by but doesn’t care because this woman almost fucking died because of some rando chief (I’m pretty sure they haven’t really met yet at this point) and Zoya leans towards her, pressing her forehead against hers and tell her she’s sorry and that she saw a chance for a better life for the legion, syndicate…. them.
She tells her she’ll make up for what happened before giving her a soft kiss on the corner of her mouth, Bai Yi looking at her a little stunned at the gesture but closes that gap between them that she didn’t even realize was so small and how she could feel Zoya’s hot breath on her lips. The kiss gets heated but not by too much cuz she’s doesn’t want to hurt her but Zoya tells her she’s a tough cookie, surviving being a freaking corpus for a BR. A very cocky smile on her face as looks at her with a desire she so desperately wants to show her. And Bai Yi give her a little pinch on her arm, letting out a weak laugh, telling her that she could’ve died. Zoya immediately telling her “but I didn’t did it.” Bai Yi nodding and then leaning into kiss her so fucking softly that it’s like she pressed a marshmallow to her lips or even a cloud perhaps.
And then they fuck with Zoya laying about ever so soft kisses on her skin and giving her little nibbles here and there. Making sure she could feel how much Zoya wants her NEEDS her and how much she cares for in the night.
…… okay I’m done lol hopefully that’s okay to put in your asks …. Ok bye 👋🏾 🧍🏾♀️🧍🏾♀️
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you asked why i liked zoya then answered your own question gehdbdjfn i love her for the same things you said. she’s a product of a super violent environment and she uses her power to change the city for the better. she knows new things cant be built on violence but it’s all she has and she’s still putting it to good use; her character arc was honestly amazinggg she’s been a favorite ever since. like yeah shes hot and her dick is big (i would know) but i just feel so hype whenever she’s on the screen, she’s one of those characters where they show up and you breathe a sigh of relief because you know they’re gonna win. she’s so cool !!! she’s cocky but she earned it because no one can beat her fr😭 her consciousness was being torn apart for i cant remember how long inside BR-004 and she still fought to the END! she’s sooo inspiring. chief barely did anything; zoya was the one who fought back and allowed earl/bai yi/chief to save her, if she was any weaker she would’ve turned into a corpus. there’s a lot of comfort that comes with being so strong, she makes others feel safe whenever she’s around and that’s so precious in a place like syndicate where suffering is the norm. seeing how she was treated growing up, the people she’s lost and how she turned into such a compassionate person anyway warmed my heart. character wise, she’ll always be on top, she’s a real comfort character fr— i’m literally like horo. like just know that i will gas her up every time, i’ll suck her dick every time! that’s my commander. my GOAT. she made the story click for me, i was intrigued before but when she showed up?! it was gigglefest. people said she sucked gameplay wise and GUESS WHAT. GOT HER ANYWAY. THATS MY TROPHY WIFE! she loves me so bad she came home in 2 pulls. what we have is something so real, so special and beautiful.
also yes that is definitely okay to put in my inbox i get fanfiction for free lmfaooo, bai yi is always next to zoya in some way in official art like she wants her so bad. she’s so annoying (affectionate) i still havent forgiven her for taking zoya from me though… literally stole my wife for over six months and it was never mentioned again like?;?;$:$ tbf i only just started ch.11 but stilllll— WHERE IS ZOYA. but it’s funny that you want them being soft and cute cause the bai yi/zoya stuff that i see is just them fucking nasty jdjfkgkg i havent even met bai yi (properly) in the story yet but i already love them because i know they would banter like crazy since bai’s a menace AND strong enough to hold her own against corpus!zoya so she must be super cocky too… if there’s no space for a third all i need is the tape🙂↕️
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obx season 4 talk - spoilers and all
i wrote this while watching the last episode so it might be all over the place and it's more commentary than anything
rafe i love the man, literally saving their asses and he's so hot and also prepared i don't know i need more sibling dynamic thing, fuck the ring but also no? i don't know how to feel about the whole ring stuff, give me more backstory on the camerons and their mom also wtf was that bike with groff and rafe it looks like a cartoon a joke but you know what i'll let that go
"you're gonna be my bitch" whatever you want man whatever you want, groff underestimated rafe fr fr and i love that he did, i knew that rafe was gonna show up eventually
NEVER go behind rafe's back NEVER, honestly i knew sofia was getting that breakup, like did she believe he was never gonna know? babygirl he's rafe
groff manipulative bitch, "my beautiful boy" how about you shut up, literally my blood would boil everytime he said that, rafe throwing him in that well, WELL deserved pun intended and all. The googles were taking me out the whole time ngl
the fear on rafe's eyes and sarah saying "that's my brother" it HEALED something in me, i love them so much, like fr my favorite siblings besides meredith and lexi grey. pope and cleo my people they are THE ones but boy have they ever gotten peace?
not rafe breaking down and having a heart to heart with sarah, i was crying ngl the hug, LET THEM BE OKAY PLEASE it healed me bye, sarah crying, rafe crying ME CRYING, uncle rafe i believe in that being it forget sofia bring the family back together fighting like sibling again thank you!
but going back to the plot i think like in all season everything was so sped up like let them breaaathe as im writing this i haven't im still watching the episode and i got 35 min left and i don't know where tf everything is going
rafe addressing the fact he's a "killer" got me sick, but like in a good way? if that can be a good thing, he knows what he can do when he needs to do it and it's not afraid, honestly redemption arc and all im glad he wasn't like "oh im not like that anymore" he did what he needed to do, and why is dalia so anoying with that accent of hers, lie it makes me wanna throw up
i think they took it too far already, like why are they in morocco honestly 😀
i had to take a break big one to cry my eyes out, why would they kill JJ? huh? no and the way he died is literally heartbreaking like what do you mean? i feel like a lot of things were forced and i smell the riara from a mile away and i don't want that, rafe doesn't need a love interest, screw sofia yes i love her but honestly he need his family, he needs that and i think with sarah being pregnant is like the perfect chance to work ON THAT STORYLINE
again they took it too far, it could’ve easily been 2 seasons of just the gold, then the cross and really get into it and then more into like family issues, ALSO the age is what annoys me the most what do you meant they are 20? bitch no, high school students can't get all that done, the finale? you're gonna end with kie agreeing with rafe and boom black screen wtf? no i hate it it, my eyes are puffy from crying
JJ didn't even get the chance to be buried in his home, in a foreign country, KILLED by his actual father and that pisses me off the most like, not only he was manipulative but you're gonna kill him because he didn't give you A ROPEEEE get a grip, i'll formulate better an actual opinion this was pure commentary
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The fact that they really had a fatherhood arc for the ninja ahsgjahdhd. and also. a childhood arc???? which isn't a thing bc childhood is just a state of being it's not really a journey unless you count coming of age??? oh my god Sensei Wu had a fucking coming of age arc I can't 😭 LLOYD HAVING TO FIGHT HIS DAD AGAIN??? THIS MAN CANT CATCH A BREAK FR also I love how one of the big things that gave him hope and kept him going was the possibility of the ninja coming back home. Lloyd being sooo insanely dependent on his family despite being the all powerful chosen one gets me bro he loves them so much he. he kind of needs them??? bshshs as he grows more independent. but like what would he have done if they never came back. the whole thing was "survive until the ninja get here" (I LOVE HOW THE SHOW STILL EMPHASISES THE THEME OF THE NINJA BEING HIS PROPHESIED PROTECTORS!! THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO THE PROPHECY AND NARRATIVE EVEN AFTER THE CROWNING OF THE CHOSEN ONE WHICH ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS) but what if they never did. like what would he do. also AUAUAUA HIM USING THE ART OF THE SILENT FIST IM!! IM!!!!!!! God. him and his dad are so. they literally did a straight up Came Back Wrong plot!! THE FACT GARMADON HAD TO BE TOLD BY HARUMI THAT HE HAD A SON AT THE BEGINNING!!!! her weird manipulation makes me insane she's. subservient to him but she also is responsible for all of his current goals and his worldview. ALSO THE THING WITH LLOYD WAS SO. SHE DIDNT HAVE TO DO THATTTT 😭😭. wait if garmadon pseudo-adopts her does that make her and Lloyd stepsiblings. or was Garmadon saying "I have no son" a pseudo-disownment. WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS GODDAMN FAMILY!!! I hate how Lloyd nuzzled into her a little bit during the "getting the mask of hatred" scene WHY. AUGH. HOW OLD ARE THEY WHY DONT THE NINJA HAVE A CANON AGE WHAT THE FUCK DOES "GROWN UP TEENAGERS" MEAN??¿????? but seriously the fatherhood arc was so funny. like I absolutely ADORED it (their different parenting styles and the way they meld together and clash and also their unique concern for him as a charge to take care of but also respect as their Sensei but he's also just a kid!!! AUAUAUA. AND THEM TEACHING HIM LESSONS IM SJISHSJS I loved how. bitchy Wu got here??? Like when he went "but you... taught me a lesson as well. You taught me how to lie. Did you really think the dragon armor would control Firstborne? She accepted my father because she sensed good in his heart. what does she sense in yours?" that was badass as hell!!) but if you think Abt it for 2 seconds it's hysterical. Sorry there's too much going on in this season I'm. my brain. I loved the return of the elemental masters they are so💖💖 Karlof Neuro Shade Skylor Griffin my beloveds... ALSO THE BOUNTY HUNTER DESIGNS ARE SO COOL FOR NO REASON??? I LOVE ALL OF THEM LIKE???
#ninjago#ninjago sons of garmadon#ninjago hunted#grace gvoices gthings (nothing starts with g and i wanted alliteration)#ninjago liveblog
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tell us your favorite everything changes chapters please
so I'll write just the chapters here, in chronological order and then put a longer explanation under a cut so i don't spoil anything. anyways, here's my top 10 (that i can currently think of) everything changes chapters/chapter collections!
Chapters 27/28: Frozen/Melted
Chapter 69: Roll of the Dice (part 2)
Chapter 73: Recognition
Chapters 97-100: Land of the Free, Home of the Brave (parts 1-4)
Chapters 170-173: Reality Oh There Goes Gravity/You Only Get One Shot/White Lines/It's Like A Jungle Sometimes
Chapter 191-193: The warmth of your hand and a cold grey sky/Another New Year/Priorities
Chapter 224-227: Monaco Baby (parts 1-4)
Chapters 322-326: Avanti (Parte Prima - Cinque)
Chapters 434/435: Stars (parts 1&2)
Chapter 509: One
this took me rather long because i obviously read through all of those chapters again
Well, this one is rather obvious. The end of the slow burn. The kiss in the snow. Now that's a New Year. If (when) I print and bind everything changes, this would be where i end the first volume. The first year, the first arc, the first part done. I also deeply love the christmas chapters with sebs family right before, but this one is IT.
Spa in the rain, after the summer break where seb and mark got followed by paps, after so much shit in the press after they came out after monaco, and then that race. Dear god i said it before I'll say it again, georgia_k writes races like no other. I love the chapter before that one too, and i love sebs relationship with dan and lewis here
Honestly this one is just for that one scene in the restaurant, when the owner comes up to them and tells them he won't take their money because Seb will drive for ferrari one day and he can't let a ferrari driver pay. (due to the events after, seb won't remember this happening but i think georgia_k might, and i hope she calls back to it when ferrari seb comes back to monza in the new in-story year. will he remember? will it bring his memory of the accident back? I can't wait to find out but i trust georgia_k)
Sebs return to the track after Parabolica. This entire arc, starting with the crash, through the hospital (honorable mention chapter: La Bella Addormenata, another absolute favorite because damn the pain. reading through it for the first time with georgia pulling no punches. damn.) The part where Seb talks to Niki? goosebumps. I feel like the Parabolica arc starts with the crash and ends with Arabian Nights but this part (and the one where he drives again on track for the first time) is my favorite.
The return to Monza. again, the way lewis and dan are there for seb, again, the racing. Also points for the lyric titles.
Teddy. now these chapters make me ugly cry every time. i don't even want kids but damn. The way seb is finally, finally completely free of heikki, nothing in their way anymore and then kacey happens (please georgia_k how is she. can you give her a little cameo. put her in a flower shop. she deserves happiness.)(fr georgia named henry after the little town next to monaco as explained in the authors notes and then came back to it like 100 chapters later when she had seb smile at the road sign without even mentioning the name. tell me about kacey.) and seb is so dejected and then teddy is there and it's perfect. god i cried buckets.
theres a bit of a pattern of me loving georgia_ks wet races, this one isn't different. I'm just a sucker for the race chapters.
THE MOVE TO FERRARI i can not WAIT, sebs year of parental time is Over (almost, i expect a teddys birthday/new year chapter and then) WE RACE AGAIN honestly, horner at ferrari feels so cursed but if georgia_k gives seb a championship with ferrari all is forgiven. even if not, i know she's a good writer. Just dont forget about restaurant dude.
Sorry to matilda, but the chapters where they get her just don't have the same impact as teddys, they were preparing, seb left early and it hurt a lot but it was worth it. Stars though. I love them growing into their role as parents, I love Teddy as a character (you can tell georgia_k works with kids because she writes him PERFECTLY for his age), i love the domesticity.
We say goodbye to Rachel, who's been such a great character all throughout. Maybe we'll run into her again? This feels like the end of the adoption story era, and the beginning of the ferrari seb era (hopefully. georgia_k do you hear me?) i love how much teddy's grown up, how you can't really see it chapter by chapter but when you skip read through your favorites again, it's so obvious. The kods have gotten so big and I can't wait what happens with them next, I was so fucking scared for them when they were really little because Georgia_k does not hesitate, but now we're ready for the future and if anything happens to the kids i will fight georgia_k.
also, here my favorite quote (chapter 59; Swimming Against The Tide):
As he approached the first of the cars that had gone past him, the forefront of Seb's mind was concentrating on operating the car and calculating what was coming up, but a small part of Sebastian's mind drifted to recall a quote he knew only too well.
“If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver.”
He even heard it in a Brazilian accent in his head.
Sebastian smiled inside his helmet. He could see a gap. He was still a racing driver.
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just saw that u watched atsv, and I've been wanting to rant to somebody about it for so LONG. Im curious about your thoughts on it tho, mind sharing?
𝐲𝐨𝐮'𝐯𝐞 𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐥𝐞𝐝 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞, 𝐚𝐧𝐨𝐧...
you've unlocked one of lyssa's mile long tangents. prepare to crumble under my wrath of fangirl-ism. to lie buried beneath the wreckage of my infinite declarations. and to suffocate amongst my many, many convictions /ᐠ○⩊○マ~ !
no, but fr, this may be a lot, so I apologize in advance for the length. however, I'll organize all of my thoughts into cute little sections for you and the others who may read this, if that helps any :).
oh, and short disclaimer, the following is my own opinion. I want to remind y'all not to take whatever I say so seriously/to heart. if you don't like what I have to say/think, then just scroll on and go about your day. no hate needed. and, if you'd like to discuss more in depth, dms are always open (I love to talk😻).
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𝐦𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐨𝐯𝐢𝐞 𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐰𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐞 :
I give the movie a solid 8.5/10. the only reason it's not a full 9-10/10 is because of two things;
a.) the pacing was crazy, like, it kind of overstimulated me? not in a bad way, exactly, but it definitely made it hard for me to focus while being slung through, like, ten different emotions every ten seconds. so much so, that when the movie ended, I felt nothing💀 (I was mad/hype/in my feels later, ofc) but like... after everythingggg, I felt very numb and needed a second longer than usual to recollect.
b.) everyone needed to take several high dose chill pills. like, am I the only one who feels as though certain character arcs/developments were erased? and that everyone needed to just sit tf down and t a l k fr? idkidk, don't press me✋🏽😃✋🏽.
other than that, solid movie and I'm so, so, excited for the next one, and I can't wait to start writing fanfic and make a spider-sona (or two...or three or four or five💀-).
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𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐮𝐚𝐥𝐬/𝐦𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐜 :
the soundtrack is so fire !! straight heat🔥, not one bad track, just banger after banger fr😻😆. when I give it my second watch (cuz no, I didn't watch it again yesterday like I said, I got busy, it's halloweekend, give me a break lol), I'll definitely list some of my faves from the track.
to be honest, though, I don't know what I expected. of course atsv had some heat. so did the first movie ! so I expect beyond the spider-verse to deliver again.
visuals... they ate down for the most part, I was totally expecting that. I only have one, eensy-weensy little pet peeve, and that's the way gwen's world/coloring is done. personally, it's just not my cup of tea, I didn't really vibe with it, which made it hard for me to enjoy a lot of her home world/dimension scenes. and ofc, it's just my opinion. if you liked it, awesome. I don't expect to start something or like... have the whole artstyle be changed, that's not what I'm saying.
I just wasn't messing with it, and that's totally okay :). everyone else was *💋* perfect, and my faves definitely had to be our miles' (y'know, 1610!miles) dimension, pavitr's, hobie's... okay, so, basically, everyone else's but gwen's (y'all are going to start to notice a theme here, btw🥴💀). but, if anyone has some niche facts or interpretations on why her world was colored as such, I'd love to hear them :).
now onto the good stuff >:3...
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𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐬 :
I- *crying about him every second of the day*...
poor boy needs a break, bro, like... (minus the spider-duties, ofc) I was deeply/heavily relating to his struggles. having all of these different things running through your mind at once, all things imperative for a good future/outcome. and then the constant stress of worrying about/for all of this different shit. especially the family bits, him just trying to do right by them but also needing s p a c e hit home mad hard😭.
and then, omg, all of these people telling him all of these different things... how he, A TEENAGE BOY, has to make all of these life altering (some life ending) choices for MULTIPLE realities, including his own ?? have the adults in the building (movie) lost they whole entire minds?! anyways, sorry, lemme chill out. this is supposed to be about miles💀.
as usual, I loved him and his personality like, truly resonated with this awkward swag vibe he has going on (and have since the first movie) and I just-...
he's pookie, fr, and I wish the world and the ppl who claim to love him in it so deeply would act like such😭💋. and he was so, so, so real for dissing peter (b. parker) every time he'd try to talk because bro, he was such a snitch, idcidc💀. and then real again for the whole, "everyone keeps tryna tell me how my story is supposed to go. Nah... i'ma do my own thing." line, like yesss king, go off✨️.
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𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐠𝐰𝐞𝐧 :
she-... ouuu...
y'all, I can't express how much this lil' girl got on my nerves. not to say that I don't understand, I do, trust. but it's not an excuse. and oh my days, did she make me cringe like... she gives me sheltered person vibes, which I was gonna say isn't her fault, but it kinda is when she shut herself out from the whole world willingly😭. again, I understand why, but she set herself up doing that. on top of being so stereotypically white?
no offense, but I audibly gasped when she called mr. and mrs. morales by their first names😃. like girl🥴- ! and then this whole, "I like you but actually lol no I don't because I'm lowkey with hobie, but no, I'm not." thing she's doing with miles? either miss girl is terrible at social cues, orrrr😗... she's an ass🤷🏽♀️. sorry but that wasn't cute, like if I were miles, I would just have to let gwen go, I mean, she even said it herself;
"in every universe, gwen stacy falls for spider-man... and in every other universe, it…doesn’t end well.”
like girl, if that's what you believe, then quit it with the, "you might have a chance with me but probably not, let's find out." vibes you're radiating, please😭🙏🏽. like, throwing the whole spider-verse off balance because, "i JuSt wAnTeD tO sEe hIm aGaIn x'0 !" when she literally knew and AGREED that she shouldn't have ever gone to see him again in the first place (because it's not like miles knew she had the ability to come see him whenever, so she should've just kept it that way) was such a foul move, bro...
anyway, I'm done dragging her, because on the flip side...
gwen deserved so much better from her father. sure, he came around towards the end, but where was the unconditional love and support that a parent is supposed to give, regardless of anything else? like, I was wholeheartedly shook to my core when gwen told him she was spider-girl, and his response was to arrest her.
sir...?! if it were me, I'd take all my shit from my room and never speak to that man again. like, oh 'ight, that's how you feel? I'm out here essentially doing your job after having to deal with the murder of my best friend (which you blamed me for, mind you !) and you want me in jail? still?? even after finding out I'm your lil' princess baby girl a.k.a. your daughter, bitch ???
sorry, but I'll say it again, my dad would never see me again 'cept when I'm busy being spider-girl on the tv😹. and just in general, poor gwen fr, like, I truly felt it when spider-woman swooped into the scene in the start of the movie, and gwen's immediate response was to go, "can you adopt me?" and like, sure, "sHe wAs jOkInG/bEiNg aWkwArD" but, coming from a girl who wished she'd had better parents...
that was not a joke, she fully meant that shit, you're not changing my mind😹🥴. anyways, all in all, I have very 60/40 feelings about gwen. sixty being my dislike, forty being my like (or, more accurately, understanding of her person regardless of my dislike).
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𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐫-𝐰𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐧 :
let's just acknowledge that she's voiced by the queen, ms. issa rae😻 !!! like she ate down, I don't care what anyone has to say. now, onto her actual character, she was so honorable for taking gwen in. like wow, I wish someone would swoop into my life, via sick motorcycle and sweet webs, and snatch me up into a better life🤩. and then further advocating for her (gwen) and her actions throughout the movie, even though it was risky?
she's so amazing (as all spider-people tend to be, harhar, puns). and yes, it was unfortunate when she couldn't do much for gwen upon miguel finding out what had been done and yada-yada, but she did all she could/agreed to/said she would do. She stood on her word, and that's all that matters🤷🏽♀️.
honestly, I don't have much on her except for the fact that I remember thinking she was pretty sick, so yeah :).
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𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐦𝐢𝐠𝐮𝐞𝐥 :
um, I don't... dislike him, I guess? but I definitely don't like him, nor am I attracted to him. I kind of don't get/understand that, but to each their own.
b u t... I do wanna say one thing because I hope that once I do say it, I start seeing a bit of a change/more of it...
I've read some miguel fanfiction, both before and after watching the movie. not saying I scoured the depths of tumblr for it or anything, read every last piece of writing on him there is to exist. that's not the case. but, from what I have read, y'all didn't get his character right imo. some aspects, sure, but his whole persona has been completely misconstrued. misinterpreted.
he's not this extra stoic, leader, jason todd-type/esque dude. to me, that man gave awkward and anti-social. I'd even go as far as to say he might've been a little autistic coded, but again, as always, that's just me ✋🏽😗✋🏽. and sure, yes, there was stoic behavior, which comes along with being rather awkward and potentially on the spectrum. and I'm not at all denying that he's a badass, he totally is.
but outside of that, and outside of him being super aggro towards miles, any scene of him was either him keeping to his lonesome unless absolutely necessary. self-isolating (which can be moreso due to trauma/other mental troubles rather than autism), and wanting nothing to do with anything he wasn't comfortable with (and I definitely wanna say he didn't want to be leader of anything/in a position of power, that's just how shit lined up for him, and it's just like... what can you do🤷🏽♀️?).
he was consistent with his information, both giving it and explaining deeper. he didn't like to be interrupted while doing so. and there was that one moment where talking to lyla (lila? lyla?¿) where he said something like, "do the explaining thing that do you do."
"what thing?"
"wha-😃? what do you mean, 'what thing?' the information explain-y thingy😐🤨."
and it's not even the only time where him and lila have had this awkward (but cute, ngl) dynamic with each other. anyways, whatever, I could just be talking out of my ass and being contradictory (becauss he is stoic but he isnt but he is-?¿), but-
I need/wanna see more awkward and introverted miguel content, not so much no-nonsense and hella apathetic...
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𝐦𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐥𝐢𝐥𝐚 (𝐥𝐲𝐥𝐚?¿) :
someone tell me how to spell her name so I can do her proper justice lol🙏🏽.
but anyways, I like her a lot :D. I mean, I know we barely see her, but just from her fit, voice/lil valley girl accent, and vibes alone...
oh yeah, we'd be besties if we ever met, I just know it. lila is so cool and I hope she plays a bigger role in beyond the spider-verse😻.
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𝐦𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐡𝐨𝐛𝐢𝐞 :
he's so hot and cool and aesthetically pleasing to look at, I just wish I could understand what that nigga was saying🥴💀. no shade, I'm so deeply infatuated with him, I just... that accent is thick as hell, so that's my sign to be sure my next watch has captions on😭.
through context clues, though, I was happy when he sided with miles/supported his journey to do whatever he felt it was best to do. and how he quit being apart of... what was it called, the spider-society? I-... and then at the end when he shows up to help gwen and them help miles. also, hello, the friendship between him and pavitr is so cute, I live for that😭.
also, his suit kicks ass. I thought the spikes and the fact that he fights with a guitar was a very nice touch, and I really dig how when miles was like, "how are you even cooler under the mask?" he's like, "I was this cool the whole time😌.
like okay, periodt, love that for you, king✨️. like shiiii, I believe it🥴😻. also, is it canon that him and gwen were together? or is it a friends with benefits type of deal? who knows, who cares. I don't >:) (I will being writing fanfiction about him).
also, quick headcanon !! I don't know why, but he gives me vibes that he can't stay focused for the life of him. er, like... he can, but to do so, he has to be focused on something completely unrelated. also, hello, he's a spider-person... shooting off un-asked for quips and jokes is kind of part of the spider-package. like, there were so many times where a person (irl or in the movie, doesn't matter) could swear hobie wasn't paying a lick of attention because he's off doing something else, talking about something totally unrelated...
just a completely unserious ass dude, right? wrong. well, not fully. but no, he's paying attention by... not paying attention. does that make sense😃? anyways...
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𝐦𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐩𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐭𝐫 :
he's my silly little meow-meow babygirl and I want nothing but the very best for him😆🥺. no but for real, I was on edge watching him try to "do both." save his girlfriend or save her dad (which was apparently a canon event that miles disrupted but he just wanted to helppp😭).
I was so happy when everything went okay, even if it meant that a canon event was fucked with, but stillll...
also, I thought it was so funny how he's "perfect" lmao. he fr achieved that healthy, work-life-spider-man balance. truly peaked😌✨️. also his theme...!! the cultural tune implemented into it !!! what a bop, an absolute jam, a certified banger. I also really vibed with his spider-suit, like, the colors and incorporations clashed so well together, and just the design itself was so...💫sparkly💫, and the way he used his webs??
again, I adored it ! I have no clue what the arm cuffs (??) at the ends of them are called (plz let me know, because I know they're important/cultural, I believe🙏🏽), but once again, beautifully done and amazingly executed. I'm sure people (especially teens and younger) probably went nuts in the theater seeing that, like, y'all... representation matters, I will scream it until my own ears bleed.
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𝐦𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐩𝐞𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐛. (𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐦𝐚𝐲𝐝𝐚𝐲) :
when I tell you miles and I went, "you/he had a baby😃?!" at the exact same time, you would've thought I was in the movie lmao💀.
I don't know, I just wasn't expecting it (even though I probably should have been), but she was the cutest darn thing😻🥺 !! her red hair like mary jane's, but having peter's spider powers was just adorable, and the fact that I saw everyone hold her at least once... my heart... it aches😫♡.
never thought a cartoon would give me baby fever, yet here I am. and it was so special to me how he admitted to miles (even though/while under shitty circumstances) that he was the reason he (peter) even wanted to have her in the first place and made him ready to commit. he wants her to be just like him (miles) and that made me-
😭😭😭♡ plus, him constantly having her with him in the little baby carrier thingy... adorable. like, yes, mj, he did take her on another mission, and she was clearly having the time of her life, lay off😆✨️.
now, on the flipside... peter,,, you're a terrible mentor💀. like, I get he was doing his best, but his best was trash, what can I say🤷🏽♀️. just doing miles dirty, snitching and switching sides left and right. I mean, the fact that he only showed up during the "intervention" (more like trap-) just so there was a higher chance at helping miguel to convince miles to let innocent people, plus his own father, d i e? shit move, some mentor/father-type figure you are😒.
also, this next bit should really be in the miguel section (oh well), but... how uncool of him was it to literally set miles up with all of his spider friends and then have them try to convince him, "oh yeah, it's a canon event to let people die, including one of the closest people you have in your life. sorry, that's just how it is, accept it lol." like actually, fuck uncool, shit was totally buckwild and uncouth. on top of the fact that none of them thought to visit him for who knows how long?
yeah... no, get fucked, I hope miles figures out a way to beat the system in the next movie, just out of pure spite🙏🏽.
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𝐦𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐧 𝐞-𝟒𝟐 𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐬 :
I know he was only there for half a second, but listen... how scary was it, coming to that realization that 1610 miles was in the wrong universe. like dawg, I had chilllsss, I was so nervous for him, like genuinely, the stress sweat was insane😃✋🏽.
y'all said tmi? gotchu. anyways, so yeah, but then immediately when uncle aaron showed up, I just knew, I was like, "oh shit, wait, okay, if he's here, and jefferson is dead..." like I put the pieces together so fast, I figured out e-42 miles was the prowler way quicker than I think I should've🥲✋🏽.
but when that mask came back, my mind wiped, cuz um...
like... I'm not the only person that... reacted... to the accent right? like-
I was shook, but when I was... it was like, "😱...😧...😳...😻" yk? like what buisness did he have sounding like that😃💀. anyways, sorry, I'm done. except I'm not, because my mind now contains sooo many headcannons on just earth-42 in general and then e-42 miles, like ?! and that shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone because I'm a writer I do this, this is what I do, I do this, this is what I do🤷🏽♀️<3.
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𝐞𝐱𝐭𝐫𝐚 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 :
- loved it when they did the thing... yk...
lolll that thing. I giggled very loud :).
- spot was nonchalantly terrifying and funny, and I really a d o r e villains like that. just unhinged and doing thier own thing while still proving themselves great threat and standing on buisness? yeah, he was awesome, I have zero nitpicks on him, he was done very well. althoughhhh.... I know I just said I have no nitpicks, but why is his backstory/origin so insignificant😭? like it's kind of lame, but at the same time, kind of... genius? like, I don't hate it, but I definitely wouldn't have come up with it so I guess that's a good thing. original/unique, in this specific case, I'd say🤷🏽♀️.
- I wish my mom was like rio. that's it, that's the post, #mommyissues🥲✨️.
- why did they wash out jefferson's character so badly? like, he still had his moments, but outside of that, he was basically just comic relief, which was... a little jarring given how he behaved in the first movie. I definitely feel like he could've been done a little better, but I supposed it wasn't a crazy bad change. like, there was the fact that miles (as spider-man, but still-) still had to tell him to get off of his ass, so it wasn't a complete 180° change or anything. just a noticeable one.
- ben riley had me giggling hard💀🥴✋🏽. emo ass, I loved him😭✨️.
- the live action editing/clips just- shdjfjekgoekkr !!! like how freaking cool, like I was deadass in my room screaming like a lunatic, like, I get it's the spider-verse so it's obvious those shots would be there but IDC LEMME FANGIRL IN MF PEACE !!!
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alright, that's all lol. if there's anything or anyone else I've forgotten to put in any of the different sections, I'll add them. but yeah, those are basically my surface level thoughts🥴. But of course, if anyone wants to go in depth with me, I'm totally open to that, and I hope to be posting headcanons and stuff about them soon (just gotta... set up the masterlist and stuff first😃).
ㅤㅤㅤㅤ...𝐬𝐨𝐨𝐨, 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐡... 𝐛𝐲𝐞, 𝐡𝐨𝐩𝐞 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐞𝐧𝐣𝐨𝐲𝐞𝐝 !
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Hi, I totally understand your disappointment in how chenford got together. I too thought it was going to take something dramatic for them to finally be together, something like DOD.
Lucy spent 5 seasons not dating cops because of Bishop's advice about her reputation and career. I thought that would play a big part on her hesitation to start a relationship with Tim. But it wasn't even mentioned lol.
And Tim always seemed super aware of the fact that he was Lucy's superior at work, he even listed that as an obstacle in his conversation with Lopez. But then he and Lucy got together and Tim seemed to forget that it's a problem. A "Lucy Lesson" was needed to remind him it's an issue.
But I can't say I'm suprised. The Rookie can set up interesting conflicts and then drop them like hot potatoes. I mean, Ashley says she never wants to have kids and Tim is just "oh well, okay then", and keeps dating her until *she* breaks up with him lol. I mean, what was the point of that?
no LITERALLY bro like…
like bro if i wanted to see a ship get together the way chenford did, i would specialize in fast burns. i get into slow burns bc my ooey gooey hopeless romantic bleeding heart likes to see the moment where it all comes together. now, i will say, i never really wanted chenford to have the near death confession just bc i think it’s been done to death and they’re both in near death experiences like everyday. i personally think it would’ve been interesting to see an arc where they think they’ll lose each other and have to confront what their lives might be like without the other person and they don’t wanna do that yada yada, like jisbon, (yes i’ll be comparing chenford’s get together to jisbon’s for the foreseeable future). what i didn’t think would get them together was like one blurted line that made no sense and riddled the story with plot holes
as for the work thing………… if i think too long about how the work boundary has been handled, my brain might actually explode lol like… the work thing was their BIGGEST boundary and not only did they give 0 shits about it when getting together but they solved it in one episode over what was basically a prank like… i have a pet peeve in slow burns and it’s when i feel like they probably could’ve gotten together forever ago and i really thought all their story was building up to something but if he was just gonna ask her out on a bench outside work in broad daylight and they were gonna solve the work boundary in one episode via prank, i would’ve just wished they did that after her rookie year. that’s another problem with how they got together like fr if it was gonna be that simple why not just get them together between 3x10 and 4x02 when they were both single and there was no work boundary or if there was it would’ve been significantly weaker like… and im saying that as someone who loved s4 😭 i really did love s4 and how 5a was going before 508 and now it all feels so pointless idk
as for the alt s4 love interests……….. oh boi…… okay so. one thing about me. when it comes to fiction… i love me some emotional cheating like it hits every time lol so was it fun to see tim and lucy carry on with 0 respect for their relationships even though i knew they were being terrible people?? hell yeah. but like… when there’s a REASON. i do not understand the purpose of either of those two being in 5a. let’s start with chris. okay so chenford would’ve hooked up in 501 if chris didn’t almost get killed and lucy stayed with him out of guilt? right? that i could understand. but THEN 508 happened and the haunting words of “if we do this” left lucy’s mouth. now…………. if she knew tim wanted to be with her romantically (which is a whole other thing bc bitch how) her staying with chris is absolutely hilarious. her justification for staying with chris was that if she got with tim it might not work out but brother… forgive me if i’m remembering incorrectly, no one was holding a gun to lucy’s head and threatening to shoot if she didn’t get with tim as soon as she broke up with chris. it’s completely out of character TO ME for lucy to stay in a relationship she wasn’t happy in bc she was scared to be with tim. like… lucy is not allergic to being single, i do not GET IT. like if chris died in 501 and lucy was too riddled with guilt to date the guy she was about to cheat on him with, i would ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THAT but this is outrageous.
now onto ashley……… hooooooooo ashley…. okay like….. it’s hard to verbalize how fucking inane the inclusion of ashley was to me… like just goofy. silly. unserious. if tim didn’t realize his feelings for lucy until 422 or 501, it is, TO ME, COMPLETELY out of character for tim to lead ashley on knowing he’d prefer to be with someone else. that’s why i honestly still didn’t think he realized he wanted to be with lucy even after 501 because like… you’re telling me TIM BRADFORD stayed in a relationship with someone telling him she was in love with him knowing he was severely interested in someone else?? that’s never been tim like omg. did he almost cheat on her a lil? yeah <3 but like idk there was a whole ass time jump and he stayed with ashley that whole time that is CRAZY. i didn’t want either breakup to be off screen but honest to god, if they knew they were about to get chenford together, i would’ve preferred an offscreen breakup during the time jump over an onscreen breakup THREE EPISODES BEFORE getting chenford together like omg OMG
*woosah break*
anyone who’s heard my rants (and it’s been a LOT) know that the episode i have the most beef with is 506. because like… we know tim probably didn’t care that much for ashley (despite the whole ass year relationship and debating retirement to travel with her but i digress) and it’s a common supposition that he was more wounded by the way she dumped him than losing her. sure, whatever, let’s go forward with that assumption. but you know who didn’t know none of that shit? LUCY. from her pov, it wasn’t that long ago that tim said he could see himself marrying ashley and we know lucy took that to heart. and then in 506, lucy finds out tims been moping for a week because they broke up (and specifically ASHLEY dumped HIM) but she’s still confident enough that tim us really into her for the “if we do this” like… and if the uc op brought up real actual romantic feelings between them, i would understand, but it didn’t. it brought up horny. it brought up that tim was sexually attracted to her. which… correct me if i’m wrong… she knew that… long before the uc op… so lucy spending an adrenaline filled weekend with tim with makeouts required and then he’s like “aye im feeling a lil something” does not equal feelings and i personally feel like lucy wouldn’t have made that leap like that when he was like… with someone. idk like… if i could take out any episodes in the 5a sad excuse for an arc, it’d definitely be the episode where lucy witnessed tim moping over his fresh ex for like two days and then blurted out that they like each other two episodes later.
so yeah the timing, the supposed trigger, the other love interests… no matter how you try to spin it, you will never ever get me like “oh no that definitely made sense” bc no matter how you look at it shit was dumb lol
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HELLO ??? LITERALLY HAVE TEARS IN MY EYES UR FIC IS TOO GOOD ?????
i felt every single emotion reading it. i am numb.
(forgive my rambling... please)
megumi... poor boy. when ur around his age, you would imagine that you'd trust people easier, or have a "child-like faith" but he's the complete opposite and it BREAKS MY HEART LORDDDD
tsumiki as well... 😭 carrying so much on her back and she probably hasn't even learnt quadratic formula yet 😭 my heart aches everytime i think about her tbh. it takes an insane amount of maturity (for someone as young as her) to keep smiling and get things done for her and megs. or maybe she has double the amount of child-like faith that megumi just seemed to lose along the way. (just yet another way of how she's raising them both.... crying)
toji may be a piece of shit.... but he's my piece of shit im so sorry. glad that rip!mc gave him that wake up call though !! (if only she were canon.... gege im in ur walls).
satoru being angry and annoyed for this entire fic did make me giggle. personally, i don't think many things can get him that riled up,,, so let's just say im jumping up and down at the fact that someone so "boring" can make his blood pressure increase like no one's business. (i love how protective he is even though if u look closely, he can be borderline psychotic. he cares SO much about her anddddd i have tears in my eyes again. wow. just him immediately taking rip!mc to his room to play cards. him making immediate moves to help her and megs. that is SO important to me.)
suguru as well 😭 he is so cute shame... just constantly flustered 😭😭😭 thank you for making him happy.. it's all i've wanted for the past 3 years 😭😭😭 (him and satoru.... thin ice... love them tho. but thin ice)
shoko. im in love. nothing has changed. i understand rip!mc. plus,,, her being the biggest instigator LMFAOOOO 😭😭😭 not giving satoru, suguru, OR toji a moment of peace. such wife material actually. it's also so heartwarming that she doesn't pry into rip!mc's stuff, how she continues to lie to the boys just for her. the blind trust.... they're meant to be... (THE END WAS EVERYTHING TO ME. PERSONALLY.)
rip!mc.... you really dug at my heart this time 😭😭😭😭 i don't wanna overshare, but all i will say is, she is JUST like me. im fr just looking at myself at this point and all this kinda hits home 😭 (the daddy issues theme was amazing morgan love it) she is too kindhearted for her own good (sounds like SOMEONE... 😔) but i love her w everything in my heart. she deserves every single good thing and more that comes her way tbh. just her projecting her issues onto megs and toji was so heartbreaking. love her.
marie is so fine.
amazing fic as always morgan. you are genuinely such an amazing author, u really grabbed me and forced to feel every emotion in this fic 😭 ur talent never fails to amaze me. you >>>> the world. ly and goodbye. (more art coming ur way!)
IM SO GLAD YOU LIKED IT!!!!!
my favorite thing abt writing rip!mc is hands down her dynamic with megumi and i know i haven't written abt those two as much as i probably should've but i love them...i made it so that rip!mc would parallel megumi bc i wanted to explore a character that really had no other choice but to become a jujutsu sorcerer like in an another life rip!mc could've been megumi and megumi could've been rip!mc the possibilities!! tsumiki too. im rlly excited for her role in the upcoming chapters/arcs bc i rlly want to see more of her. just imagining tsumiki who is barely older than megumi taking on the role of responsibility when they were children breaks my heart. also a lot of ppl talk about megumi and toji but what about tsumiki and HER mother??? like yes toji abandoned megumi but so did tsumiki's mother like ouch that must've hurt or maybe she was just so used to it which is why taking care of megumi came so easy. maybe she was used to fending for herself 🥲
toji.... i originally envisioned rip!mc finding him in a pachinko parlor LMAO stsg were ALSO supposed to visit the hostess club unfortunately i cut the scene out bc it didn't make sense. but yes the man definitely needed a wake up call personally i think rip!mc should've been even harsher but the girl was straight up dissociating that entire conversation fjdksfdjnks
hs gojo is such a tsundere!!! like it's part bc he sucks at communicating and it's another part the fact that rip!mc is just extraordinarily dense in aspects. he also just assumes that it's a given that people understand him (like geto does) LMAO. i feel like that's the difference between hs gojo n adult gojo in regards to his relationship with rip!mc. adult gojo is just a lot more confident in how to handle her and knows exactly what buttons to push while hs gojo is a lot more rash and easier crueler with his words. he is the WORST.
when else is geto not going to be happy other than in my fics 😔 i love him so much!!! i wrote all the geto scenes for this fic first and then tried to figure out where to fit gojo let me TELL YOU. all the geto parts were done and written!!! it took me like 3 months to finish gojo's though 😭😭😭
ok let's talk shoko aka the TRUE ENDING. yes shoko is the biggest instigator ever. it would be hilarious to see gojo and geto riled up while also asserting her Dominance as rip!mc's number 1 <33333 in the end she's the only one that actually and truly just wants the best things for her bf even if that may or may not include stsg. these bitches r so gay.....gojo n geto r just willfully blind about it DNFJKSDNJF
thank you so much for reading friend!!! once again im so so so so happy you enjoyed it <33333 like if even one person enjoyed that makes me soooo happy and thank you for letting me read your thoughts I LOVE WHEN PPL TALK TO ME ABT MY FICS <3333 also i will eagerly be awaiting whatever u draw omg
#yeah yeah toji abandoned megumi but tsumiki's mother also abandoned HER 😭#i'd argue it's even worse considering we don't even know what happened to her unlike toji#never apologize for rambling it genuinely heartens me to see ppl enjoy it!!!!!#let ME apologize bc i RAMBLED LMAO#long post#.fb
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Sokka 100% has a character arc, it's way more subtle but it's absolutely there. Along with his sexism, he starts the show being really insistent on being the leader and... Not being very good at it. By the time it wraps up, he fully IS the Gaang's leader, acknowledged by all of them, and he does a fantastic job at it. He gains a lot of self confidence, especially in season 3, and like... once you see him with it, it becomes very clear that he was lacking any real faith in himself up to that point. Season 3 is actually where it's at if you're a Sokka fan! Which, many people, including me, are... Because he's great! Him always being smart doesn't mean he was always as aware and comfortable with it as he ends up being, like, he fr changes a lot from the person he started out as! He kinda feels like out of the Gaang, he actually matured the most, even if he's still silly and full of humor
Katara doesn't necessarily like... Change so much as we get to see her grow up and into her own person (before it all gets thrown to shit in all of the sequels). Her brief stint in the Northern Water Tribe is a huge deal, because like, they really weren't there for very long but she still becomes a master who also keeps honing her craft after leaving! Aside from her caring nature and the way she takes up the mother role in the Gaang, she also establishes herself to be extremely stubborn and badass, and learns how to integrate that with the more naive version of "hope" she starts out with without ever letting go of it completely. She becomes even more bold in standing up for what she believes to the point of stubbornness, but she isn't wholly bullheaded and learns to also admit when she's wrong. Her arc isn't so much about like... Dramatic changes so much as it is about establishing the kind of person she'll be after everything is over (in theory, because again, all the post show material SUCKS), and it's definitely not the same girl who first left home- she went through so much, learned so many things... She's not the same, even if she isn't entirely different either. Season 1 Katara and season 3 Katara feel almost like different beasts entirely at times, and a lot of that is actually owed to season 3!
Toph though.... She really was abandoned on all fronts in terms of longterm arcs, literally even her one big thing that got established from the get go never got resolved!! She does 100% become much more loving and comfortable with the group, which is something we keep seeing glimpses of throughout the course of it even afted she initially joins, and like. Considering where she started out? That's pretty important for her! Also important to note that Toph doesn't "learn metalbending"... She fucking INVENTS it at a time when she's extremely vulnerable, both physically and emotionally. And like the badass she is, she literally just doesn't give up or lament on it not being possible, she just fucking.... Breaks all known laws of bending up to that point and bends herself out of, once again, a prison made of her parents' love... Which, while she very much wants them to work things out, she's also done with hiding who she is from them and refuses to settle for a relationship with them where they see her as anything less than the best earthbender alive. That whole thing never really got resolved, but. She's yet another member of the Gaang who grows comfortable in her own skin after leaving home!
Zero excuses for Aang, he doesn't change AT ALL, I'd even argue he still doesn't care about being the Avatar tbh.
There ARE a lot of missed opportunities still, though. The biggest ones imo are Aang and Toph for sure, just because both started down paths they never got to reach the end of... But Toph still manages to change in meaningful enough ways for me to see a real difference between her debut and the finale, whereas Aang... Doesn't.
It's also really ironic that you say it's not a "character focused story" because it's literally what the creators belive it is, can you fucking imagine? Wild. You're definitely not wrong though, if it was meant to be character focused there was a lot more work to be done before the finale which they instead spent on throwaway Aang arcs, oof.
Im trying to think about all the main characters in atla, and idk if besides Zuko, any of them have a real arc. Sokka starts off being sexist, but he stops treating women like theyre secondary after the kiyoshi warriors, and he was always rather smart, it was just him needing to learn things. Katara was always a kind and caring sort of person, she never really changes beyond learning bending and forgiving Zuko. Toph learns metalbending, and being a team player, but the whole working together thing happens literally right after she joins. Aang? Any time aang approaches a fundamental character change it gets waved off or pushed away. He takes being the avatar more seriously than the start, but other than that he doesnt really change much.
When i say it like that, it really feels like theres a lot of missed opportunities in the writing. And its a shame, because i do see potential in all of them to really grow and change, and i do like all the characters! I think maybe this means atla is not really about character and its more about story, zuko’s redemption was just in service to the story, so it needed to happen. But none of the other characters need to change, so they dont, the story is the same regardless. Thats not necessarily bad? But it does feel like a missed opportunity.
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MY JWCC S5 REVIEW ♡ SPOILERS AHEAD!!!
》 you have been warned ⚠️
》 to start off, WHAT A RIDE THIS SEASON WAS!!! theres lots of opinions, like the finale pacing etc, but tbh; with 12 episodes i think they did pretty well ending the show with the time they had! to me personally it didnt feel rushed at all, i actually wanted everything to pick up the pace so the kids could be happy and safe again 😭 with that out of the way, lets get to it!
》story & mr.kon
- s5 continues off right from the end of the previous season, where the camp fam meet Mr. Daniel Kon, Kenji's father!!!
- right off the bat mr.kon seems pretty trusting and relieved to see his son, but theres still hesitancy to trust him from the kids and quite frankly, the fandom as well. the kids out kash on all of his BS and mrkon rightfully so punishes him, and gets the kids to safety with food and SHOWERSSSS YESSSSS THEY CAN FINALLY SHOWER!! (kenji shaved and also brooklyn redyed her hair idk how) but at what cost.... its just too good to be true! ep1 is pretty tame, it gives the kids a break FINALLY and mae gets patched up!
- the story from then on goes to the kids doing their thing, sussing mr.kon out, rightfully so, while being torn on breaking kenjis heart abt the truth abt his dad and saving dinos, usual jwcc shenanigans ensue.
- I THINK MRKON WAS WELL DONE. his manipulation game is off the charts and he knows how to act fr, the way he can flip sides when hearing things he does not like in a second, he does it to kenji too. and hes not unhinged like kash, mr.kon IS the mastermind, hes very smart and knows how to manipulate kenji— its so heart breaking. in my s5 predictions post i said it could go two ways; mr.kon as an ally to the kids against kash, or mr.kon being the real enemy. LOOKS LIKE THE LATTER...
- my only gripe is i wish they showed more abt how mr.kon got this way— like was it the mothers death, or is it a trait that got passed down by his own father, or is it just simply greed?? who knows. its never really answered if he does care for his son or not? to me i think it was just convenient at the time for kenji to be around— i didnt see any signs mrkon ever showed affection for kenji when it didnt benefit him 😭😭 which is DEVASTATING. mrkon was out of the parenthood game fr...
- as usual, all the adults die fr but theyre badguys and death-by-dino is sick asf so i love it! EVEN KASH GOT GOT and that was sooo satisfying. mae was safe tho and as she should!!
- ok so apart of me really wanted mr.kon to get a redemption arc or smth— like a bigger bad makes him ally with the kids and he really bonds with kenji.. but then kash dies so im like "WELL there goes that possibility" and then i had hope for the investors to turn on mr.kon— nope they all died except for the lady IN WHICH the antagonist from jw:dominion comes in (the guy who runs biosyn i forgot his name) but then obv cant be possible bc they cant kill him off since he has to appear in his own movie... IN THE END, no redemption for mr.kon and fine. thats fine im fine.
- OK ill be honest MR.KON IS KINDA.. BAD OK? LIKE.. 😳 HELP IM SORRYYYY its just the way he grabbed kash by his the back of his neck and was "go back to whatever hole u came from" IT MADE ME FEEL SMTH A LITTLE OK.. he lookin for a stepmom for kenji or... 🤭.... IM SORRY HES AN ATTRACTIVE SINGLE DAD ALSO A VILLAIN, WHAT DO U WANT FROM ME 😭😭 i was taking notes while watching the season and if you see them its just me simping for mr.kon HELp
- ok ANYWAY the fact that he was legit willing to let the kids die and even LET DARIUS GET KILLED in front of kenji i knew... it was over..
- final confrontation between kenji and mrkon was sad😭 HE LEGIT JUST LEFT HIS SON ON AN ISLAND THAT HE BELIEVED WAS GONNA GO TO SHIT... apart of me wants to be like "oh he probably thought kenji was better off with them" but its pretty much apparent ig that he does not give a shit abt kenji— which is why i wish theyd spent some time showing kenjis history w/him bc we know mrkon was not present most of his life, but there SEEMED to be something more. oh well. bye bye mrkon!! AND HE GETS ARRESTED OFFSCREEN TOO, which is just sad for kenji 😭
- THE LAST EPISODE is absolutely my favorite and the ENDING is amazing ill tell u why in a sec just u wait!!
》kenji vs campfam
- ill say it again KENJI IN A SUIT AND BETRAYAL I FORSEENT ITTTTT
- to start off I THINK BOTH SIDES HAD THEIR FAULTS AND RIGHTS BUT ohh my godd kenji deserved a break ok.. i may be biased bc he is my favorite son
- IT WAS SO OBVIOUS HE WAS MANIPULATED and has daddy issues, and im so glad brooklyn saw that. I WAS PISSED that no one else did, like ur telling me ben and yas couldnt see it? i think they were a bit dramatic on their hatred for kenji but ig its understandable bc out of everyone they arent that close w/ him.... BUT STILL. messy.
- I WAS SO PISSED AT SAMMY AT FIRST FOR BEING INDECISIVE bc shes torn between her bestie kenji, and her other besties+yasmina. tho i do believe she never blamed kenji by the way their reunion went (she was just happy he was back w/them) so ill give her a pass.
- IM CONFLICTED ABT DARIUS bc i thought originally he was just too heartbroken abt kenji yet hes not used to talking abt his feelings hence needing the dinosaur interaction. but he just said he didnt care??? like bro... why r u lyin.
- darius at least shouldve stepped up a little bc other than brooklyn, he knows kenji had issues with his dad... oh well.. dino lovers are crazzzzy
- im at least glad he was the one who stayed mad at kenji for the longest #payback my broken boys... BUT it paid off when darius forgave kenji THEY BOTH CRIED?! i cried. it was so sweet and idc if anyone thinks "kenji was forgiven too early and it was rushed", bc truth is hes a kid with dad issues and the others are kids and they are family and they! need! each other!!
》yasammy (& kenlynn)
- CAN I JUST SAY LETS TAKE THIS W YASAMMY FANSS YESSSSSSSSS also BISEXUAL YAS RIGHTS?!?! sammy is the lesbian this is so true
- yasminas whole crush arc was just adorable and so fitting for her to open up to ben 😭 bc ben is like so chill right
- i like how they didnt make it a big deal, it was just abt yasmina figuring herself out and when she made her move, IT WAS REWARDING!! i screamed at the kiss... they r so adorable.. silly gfs 💖
- im so glad they didnt shy away from shoving it in our faces bc THOSE GIRLS DESERVE ITTTT FRRR,, THE KISS!!! THE KISSSSSSSSS
- as equally cute as kenlynn, they both have equal screentime which was a blessing!
- kenlynn pained me so bad when brooklyn was broken abt kenji 😭 its what i love, angst, but gdi i wish she held on a little longer but understandble bc kenji was kinda wack himself for staying with his dad that long...
- THE DATE THING WAS SO CUTE KENJI IS SO SOFT, ,HIS SUIT AND THE FLOWER.. I SCREAMED!!
- AND YET IT WAS HEARTBREAKING...he got stood up... smh... its fine.. it all got healed when he gave her the flower fr <3
- THE LAST EP KISS... i cried and threw up i love my kids... HOW COULD U HATE THEM THEYRE SO SOFT AND SWEET im holding them both in my arms 💖💖
》timeskip
- THIS WAS THE ABSOLUTE BEST PART. WHEN OLDER DARIUS SHOWED ON THE SCREAM I YELLED (INAUDIBLY BC IT WAS 4AM)
- THIS IS LEGIT ALL I WANTED, A TIMESKIP TO END THE SHOW (u can see my previous posts i mention this shit a lot and i even have my own au and older designs for them..)
- YASAMMY IN TEXAS THIS IS SO TRUE.. STAY SAFE GFS... im so mad sammy didnt change her clothes HELP shes still wearing thay goddamn shirt and has similar length hair but its fine yasmina being gorgeous made up for it 👍
- KENLYNN GOIN STRONG longdistance relationship goals, i love their designs so much😭😭 kenji w/his hair down AND brooklyn short hair?!?! short haired women rights its all i wanted 💃
- in my timeskip au i had darius work with dinos back on the island but its more fitting that ben has that role (working w/mae) which is so adorable...
- IM GLAD I PREDICTED BENRIUS WOULDNT HAPPEN bc theyre too innocent and busy being dino obsessed obv!! we didnt get timeskip benrius but theres still hope 😌 theyre just both aro-ace theyll work smth out..
- they fact they keep in touch is so sweet HELPP in my au they all drifted apart 💀 it was for the angst im sorry
- KENJI GETS ADOPTED INTO THE BOWMAN FAMILY SO TRUE... its so sad that with no mom or dad (jail) hes p much an orphan but at least he got darius,, it was so sweet when the mom hugged him at the mainland reunion 🥲 ALSO KENJI STILL OWNS MANTAH CORP?? OR SMTH LIKE IT BC ITS MENTIONED HES KEEPING THE PRIVATE ISLAND RUNNING so mae n ben can work there... SO TRUE
- LETS TALK AGES:
ok so from my research since the show goes alone the movies timeline, s1 takes place in 2015!! fallen kingdom is 3yrs after, and dominion (which i assume begins when darius sees the dinosaur outside his house) is 4 years later making the year 2022.
》so its like jwcc s1 age/ fallen kingdom(s5 timeskip) age/ dominion age
• darius: 12/15/19
• brooklyn: 13/16/20
• ben: 14/17/21
• sammy: 14/17/21
• yasmina: 15/18/22
• kenji: 15/18/22
- me sobbing.. they grew up so fast.. i love my kids... my age theory also may be sooo wrong but it makes more sense if theyre all in their 20s by the end! livin the adult life #goodluck
》final thoughts and thanks
- THIS SHOW IS LEGIT THE BEST AND A GODDAMN BREATH OF FRESH AIR COMPARED TO OTHER SHOWS coughMLBcough what who said that 🤨😳🤭
- from s1 to the end i never got tired of it or it never swayed from my interests, i drew fanart so quick, more than ive done for a lot of other fandoms i was in 😭💖
- i wouldnt mind a sequel with the older camp fam, but if its thats it thats okay too!! lets not get greedy guys...
- EXPECT GIFSETS AND FANART IN THE FUTURE!! my life is so busy crazy rn but i will make time for jwcc shit if its the last thing i do!!!
- lastly, thank you for joining me on this ride! jwcc brought me lots of new tumblr followers which was a surprise! 💖
i know somehow toxicity will find its way to this season, but what else would i expect LMAO idc i will fight with all ive got as usual 😉
- lets all take this W fr, this show was so good. also, sorry for any spelling and grammar errors in the review!
#jwcc spoilers#jwcc s5#jwcc season 5#jurassic world camp cretaceous#camp cretaceous#jwcc#jurassic world#netflix#kenji kon#jwcc brooklynn#kenlynn#yasmina fadoula#sammy gutierrez#yasammy#ben pincus#darius bowman#benrius#I LOVE THIS SHOW SOOOO MUCHHHHH#jwcc s5 review
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So y’all apparently liked the danganronpa digimon au art sooo
Here are all the kids’ ✨ partners ✨
I say all of them but like. there’s 30+ kids so I only did some please bare with me agsjdhssk
Dr 1 Kids:
Chihiro: Tentomon
I love me some computer kids with bugs hehe. I think they’d get along rlly well and Tentomon would be super impressed with Chihiro’s computer skills. Also it gives me Izzy vibes
Mondo: Labramon
DOG. PINK AND WHITE DOG. I think he’d absolutely love Labramon. He definitely has some hesitation at the beginning because it doesn’t look manly at all but shhh that’s his character growth :]
Kiyotaka: Gaomon
Punchy wolf who adheres to rules/his own code… sounds familiar hehe. I’m specifically thinking of Thomas’s Gaomon but like.. in a different font. Taka would freak the fuck out over keeping a ‘pet’ on school grounds tho lmao. Also this made me think of the fact that one of Taka’s fav gifts in dr1 was boxing gloves… hehe
Kyoko: Kudamon
Cool, calm, collected. Again, I’m thinking of the one from Data Squad. Kyoko would be standoffish but I think she’d warm up to the little guy quickly. Also….neck rest hehe
Makoto: Agumon
Obligatory Agumon, but honestly I think it fits pretty well too. Confident and friendly, and not afraid to rush head-on into things :]
Byakuya: Renamon
YEAH. Hear me out: I’m thinking it would be similar to Rika’s. Strict relationship with their partner, basically just another of Byakuya’s tools. Only at first, of course, they warm up to each other eventually. Also I think it’s funny to give him a fox girl hehe
Celeste: BlackPawnchessmon
She’s got an aesthetic going on!! She needs a partner similar to that, and what’s better than a little chess-piece set guy?
Aoi: Betamon
It’s a little excitable fish. What’s more perfect than that?
(Currently also debating on what to give Sayaka and Leon so wait a bit for those)
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Dr 2 Kids
Hajime: Patamon
YES this one gets me very excited!! They just fit together okay I can’t explain it but it makes me unreasonably happy. Also the fact that Patamon evolves into holy digimon and I want an Izuru arc makes me unwell in the best way possible
Nagito: Impmon
HEAR ME OUT. Little unlucky imp meets unwell lucky guy. Also I think their vibes mix pretty well together
Kazuichi: Hagurumon
It’s. it’s a floating gear. that digvolves into a robot. Literally what is more perfect. Kazuichi would be scared at first but they’d warm up to each other :] Also thinking about making him hella chill to balance out Kazuichi’s anxiety.
Fuyuhiko: Gabumon
Super loyal little guy whose also really nice and friendly meets very emotionally constipated yakuza. Match made in heaven.
<— is also digging the idea of fuyuhiko being upset at being given another ‘tool’…
Chiaki: Wormmon
A super friendly, soft-spoken worm. Sounds like he and Chiaki would get along :] Also, again, computer kids with bugs makes me very happy
Sonia: Bakemon
A nasty little freak? For a princess?? 100% yeah. Not only does it subvert from what you’d expect from a princess’s partner, but it’s also literally a ghost and would make her occult-loving self extremely happy. They watch horror movies together<3
Gundham: Lopmon
Mmmm Gundham was hard to pick for, but I’m thinking that this guy will work. Hear me out: chill little rabbit friend with our lovable overlord of ice. It likes to go along with his theatrics :]
Peko: Falcomon
Sword woman and ninja-bird. Yep yep they’ll work, hehe. Fr tho, I think these two’s personalities mesh pretty well. Another ‘tool’ situation, but they’ll break out of that mindset with some help
…okay I’m done now
#danganronpa#danganronpa trigger happy havoc#super danganronpa goodbye despair#goodbye despair#sdr2#dr1#digimon#dgr digimon au#my rambles#don’t mind me just making the most self indulgent au possible
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On your comments about Jack: ye-es, in the sense that Jack is a character who definitely deserved better than he was treated by the characters. The way Dean especially treats him reflects very badly on Dean, no question. But, speaking as a viewer, I think the perspective needs to shift a little bit.
To me, Jack is Dawn from Buffy, or Scrappy Doo. He’s an (in my opinion) irritating kid who is introduced out of nowhere to be both super vulnerable and super OP, and the jeopardy is centered around him in a way that has nothing to do with his actual character or relationships. He’s mostly around to be cute and to solve or create problems — he never has any firm character arcs or goals of his own, nor any deeper purpose in the meta narrative. In this way, he’s a miss for SPN, which focuses heavily on conflicts as metaphors for real life.
Mary fits so much better in that framework, and introducing her as a developed, flawed person works really well with the narrative. It is easy for us to care about Mary, both as the dead perfect mother on the pedestal and as the flawed, human woman who could not live up to her sons’ expectations. That connection is built into the core of SPN, and was developed over years, even before she was a character. When she was added, she was given depth and nuance organically, and treated as a flawed, complex character rather than as a plot device or a contrivance. She was given a voice and independence, and became a powerful metaphor for developing new understandings of our parents in adulthood, as well as an interesting and well-rounded character. You care that she’s dead, not just because Sam and Dean are sad, but for the loss of her development and the potential she offered. So, in that sense, I think a lot of people were frustrated that she died essentially fridged for a second time, and especially in service of the arc of a weaker character.
And like, you’re right, no one can figure out if Jack is a toddler or a teenager. He’s both and he’s neither, because he’s never anything consistently and his character arc is always “whatever the plot needs it to be.” Every episode is different. Is he Dean’s sunny opportunity to be a parent and make up for his dad’s shitty parenting? Yes! Is he also Dean’s worst failure and a reminder that he has done many horrible things, including to “innocent” children? Yes! Is he Cas’s child? Yes! Is he Dean’s child? Yes! But also, no! Is he Sam’s child? Yes! Is he a lonely teenager who does terrible things? Yes! Is he a totally innocent little lamb who doesn’t get why what he is doing is wrong? Yes! Is he the most powerful being in the universe? Yes! Does he need everyone to take care of him? Yes! Is he just along for the ride? Yes! Is he responsible for his actions? Kinda??? Sometimes??? What is he???
Mary as a character is narratively cohesive and fleshed-out. Jack is a mishmash of confusing whatever’s that all add up to a frustrating plot device with no consistent traits to latch on to. Everything that fans like about him (cute outfits, gender play, well-developed parental bonds with the characters) is fanon. So, yes, the narrative prioritizes Mary. Many fans prioritize Mary, at least enough that Dean’s most heinous acts barely register. To the narrative (not to Cas, which is a totally different situation), Jack is only barely more of a character than Emma Winchester, who Sam killed without uproar seasons earlier. He’s been around longer, but he’s equally not really real.
I debated on responding to this because, to tell the truth, I think we fundamentally disagree on a number of subjects and, as they say, true insanity is arguing with anyone on the internet. However, you spent a lot of time on the above and I feel it's only fair to say my thoughts, even if I don't believe it will sway you any more than what you said changed my opinions.
I'm assuming this was in response to this post regarding how Jack's accidental killing of Mary was treated so severely by the brothers, particularly Dean, because it was Mary and, had it been a random character like the security guard in 13x06, it would have been treated far differently. However, then the argument becomes less about the reaction of the Winchester brothers to this incident and more the value of Jack or Mary to the audience.
I believe we need to first admit that both characters are inherently archetypes—Mary as the Madonna character initially then, later, as a metaphor for how imperfect and truly human our parents are compared to the idol we have as children, and Jack as the overpowered child who is a Jesus allegory by the end. Both have a function within the story to serve the Winchester brothers, through whose lens and with whose biases we are meant to view the show's events. We also need to admit that the writers didn't think more than a season ahead for either character, especially since it wasn't initially supposed to be Mary that came back at the end of season 11 but John, and they only wrote enough for Jack in season 13 to gauge whether or not the audience would want him to continue on or if he needed to be killed off by the end of the season. Now, I know we curate our own experiences online which leads to us being in our own fandom echo chambers, however it is important to note that the character was immediately successful enough with the general audience that, after his first episode or two, he was basically guaranteed a longer future on the show.
I have to admit, I’m not entirely sure why the perspective of how his character is processed by some audience members versus others has any bearing on the argument that he deserved to be treated better overall by the other characters especially when taking their own previous actions in mind. I’m not going to tell you that your opinion is wrong regarding your feelings for Jack. It’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it, it harms no one to have it and express it. My feelings on Jack are clearly very different from your own, but this is really just two different people who processed a fictional person in different ways. I personally believe he has a purpose in the Winchesters’ story, including Castiel’s, as he reflects certain aspects of all of them, gives them a way to explore their own histories through a different perspective, and changes the overall dynamic of Team Free Will from “soldiers in arms” to a family (Misha’s words). In the beginning he allows Sam to work through his past as the “freak” and powerful, dangerous boy wonder destined to bring hell on earth. With Dean, his presence lets Dean work through his issues with John and asks whether he will let history repeat itself or if he’ll work to break the cycle. Regarding Cas, in my opinion he helps the angel reach his “final form” of a father, member of a family, lover and protector of humanity, rebellious son, and the true show of free will.
From strictly the story, he has several arcs that work within themes explored in Supernatural, such as the argument of nature versus nurture, the question of what we’re willing to give up in order to protect something or someone else and how ends justify the means, and the struggle between feeling helpless and powerless versus the corruptive nature of having too much power and the dangerous lack of a moral compass. His goals are mentioned and on display throughout his stint on the show, ones that are truly relatable to some viewers: the strong desire to belong—the need for family and what you’ll do to find and keep it.
With Mary, we first need to establish whether the two versions of her were a writing flaw due to the constant change in who was dictating her story and her relationship to the boys, which goes against the idea that her characterization was cohesive and fleshed-out but, rather, put together when needed for convenience, or if they both exist because, as stated above, we are seeing the show primarily through the biased lens of the Winchester brothers and come to face facts about the true Mary as they do. Like I said in my previous post, I don’t dislike Mary and I don’t blame her for her death (either one). However, I do have a hard time seeing her as a more nuanced, fleshed-out character than Jack. True, a lot of her problems are more adult in nature considering she has to struggle with losing her sons’ formative years and meeting them as whole adults she knows almost nothing about, all because of a choice she made before they were born.
However, her personal struggles being more “mature” in nature (as they center primarily on parental battles) doesn’t necessarily mean her story has layers and Jack’s does not. They are entirely different but sometimes interconnected in a way that adds to both of their arcs, like Mary taking Jack on as an adoptive son which gives her the moments of parenting she lost with Sam and Dean, and Jack having Mary as a parental figure who understands and supports him gives him that sense of belonging he had just been struggling with to the point of running away while he is also given the chance to show “even monsters can do good”.
I’d also argue that Jack being many ages at once isn’t poor writing so much as a metaphor for how, even if you’re forced to grow up fast, that doesn’t mean you’re a fully equipped adult. I don’t want to speak for anyone else, but I believe Jack simultaneously taking a lot of responsibility and constantly trying to prove to others he’s useful while having childish moments is relatable to some who were forced to play an adult role at a young age. He proves a number of times that he doesn’t need everyone to take care of him, but he also has limited life experience and, as such, will make some mistakes while he’s also being a valuable member of the group. Jack constantly exists on a fine line in multiple respects. Some may see that as a writing flaw but it is who the character was conceived to be: the balance between nature or nurture, between good and evil, between savior and devil.
Now, I was also frustrated Mary was “fridged” for a second time. It really provided no other purpose than to give the brothers more man pain to further the plot along. However, this can exist while also acknowledging that the way it happened and the subsequent fallout for Jack was also unnecessary and a sign of blatant hypocrisy from Dean, primarily, and Sam.
And, yes, Jack can be different things at once because, I mean, can’t we all? If Mary can be both the perfect mother and the flawed, independent, distant parent, can’t Jack be the sweet kid who helps his father-figures process their own feelings on fatherhood while also being a lost young-adult forcing them to face their failures? Both characters contain multitudes because, I mean, we all do.
I can provide articles or posts on Jack’s characterization and popularity along with Mary’s if needed, but for now I think this is a long enough ramble on my thoughts and feelings. I’m happy to discuss more, my messenger is always open for (polite) discussion. Until then, I’m going to leave it at we maybe agree to disagree.
#long post#long ask#so long answer#guys it's 1 am#i hope this made sense#watch me read this after sleep and register things i wish i said#oh well#jack kline#mary winchester#spn#supernatural#spn critical#supernatural critical#kinda?#eh just in case#spn meta#supernatural meta#jack meta
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Congrats on finishing!!! 🥹 Addressing your thoughts (from a lover of the OG manga too!):
Akito is *barf* and most if not all of the fandom tends to agree that she is quite irredeemable, so the attempted redemptive arch given to her at the end has always been a big eye roll for us. I think it’s another reason why we tend to appreciate Rin’s reaction because it’s way more realistic. For everyone to gloss over what Akito has done to them for YEARS, especially what she did to Rin, never made sense. But I suppose it ties into Tohru — how she’s able to love every single person of the Sohma family unconditionally, even Akito. Couldn’t be me, but Tohru really is better than me fr 😮💨
I also loved Ayame’s first reaction to being free 💜
Yuki/Machi is actually one of the parts of the story that I don’t fully click with only because I felt the pacing could’ve been better. I think I appreciate the dynamic and feel it enough, but even in the manga I wished there was way more build up and solo scenes of them. It felt rushed in the manga and in the anime to me, so I’m curious if it felt rushed to you!!
The disappearance of Momiji is REAL 😭 I personally liked that he had feelings for Tohru — I think it pulls him from the ‘lil baby Momiji’ image and helps us readers realize how deeply he loved Tohru, in all the ways. I think without the feelings, most would still see him as a tiny immature kid but it shows how much emotional depth he always had. I also think it was very realistic for another human to be in love with a person like Tohru. If it wasn’t Yuki, to me it made sense it was Momiji for how close they were and how deeply she affected his life.
On that note, I am also glad they didn’t go with a ‘love triangle’ approach with Momiji, too. But because of that, I thought he’d be given a lot more resolution with his sister (fuck his mom, tbh). They didn’t give much with it so I agree he just disappears after that. I think a lot of fandom actually says he had one of the emptiest endings. He didn’t get the girl he loved. His mom still doesn’t know who he is. At least it’s implied in the sequel manga that he and his sister became close again, but still. 🥲
LOL I can understand how the ‘Kyo + Kyoko’ friendship was kinda random. Even as a kid I thought that was random 😂 But I do think the story implies they only had a handful of interactions until Tohru got lost (Yuki, Hat, etc arc). It was a fun way of showing both Yuki and Kyo saved Tohru in quiet ways long before she saved them/vice versa.
Kyoru!!!1!!!1 All of what you said it honestly what makes me not invested in their fanfics and post-story content. They’re perfect as is but I don’t crave seeing more of them because that’s just… it? They’re a vanilla couple in the best ways LOOOOL. They get together and they’re just wholesome and sweet. They’re the kind of relationship you love and adore for real life; healthy in all the ways. But a lil boring for fiction after then on if there’s no tension 😭 I understand you
Ok! The curse thing! So the best way to explain it is that there was not technically a single instance that made the curse break. It’s implied the bond/curse was already weakening over generations and generations (ie. Dragon being a seahorse and not an actual dragon). It just so happened that this was the generation, and Tohru was almost a catalyst to it fully breaking by helping them live free from their God. There might be other interpretations though! Been years since reading into the theory side of FB
So fun though 🥹 If you’re interested in more Furuba, they animated Tohru’s parents backstory into a movie “Fruits Basket: Prelude”! And they have the Sequel manga called “Fruits Basket Another”
Heads up that Tohru’s parents’ story is very controversial 💀 We highkey dislike her dad lol
Fruits Basket's final thoughts
I finished the anime a few weeks ago, and after my previous posts on the matter I thougt I'd make a final one. Please note that I haven't read the manga, so it's not impossible that some of my objections could boil down to being an anime-only.
Good for Akito for her heel-face turn I guess, but I'm team Rin here. She's done too much shit to be forgiven.
At least she ends up with Shigure. They deserve each other. Funny how quick the dog went from hot to not in my book.
As much as I can't stand Ayame, I really loved how the first thing he does when he feels the curse breaking is go to Mine and confess her his love. That was wholesome af, and I appreciate that he didn't seem to feel the same level of loss over it than the rest of the zodiac. (funnily enough, he was my husband's fave)
I loved the Yuki/Maki resolution, how he manned up and kissed her right there on the train station square.
However, I was a bit disappointed with the conclusion (or lack thereof) of Momiji's arc. The hinting that he too had romantic feelings for Tohru seemed to come out of nowhere and adds nothing in terms of plot or stakes. Also he kind of fades into the background after his curse breaks. I was really, really hoping (expecting, even) for resolution with his sister.
The backstory of Kyo with Tohru’s mum… pfff Iet’s say I accept it bc of the genre, but it felt farfetched af, her fatidic last words contrived and shoehorned for the sake of drama (There was more than enough grounds for Kyo’s guilt about not helping her without that addition IMO). Plus, it doesn’t make much sense to me that a mum of a lonely girl has a secret putative lonely son and never introduces them? (or even tries to? Whatever happened to the universal parental custom to go “look, a kid like you, go make friends” whenever another brat is in your general vicinity?)
Likewise, the much awaited Kyoru kinda… fell flat to me for some reason. Like the chemical reaction that had been bubbling up for three seasons just died down and they went straight to plain old married couple or something.
Last but not least, the curse thing itself was quite muddy, at least to me. If all needed for it to end was Akito willing so, how/why did Kureno/Momiji/Hiro manage to break it? I’ll probably look into this one, but still… I felt like the build up didn’t quite pay off.
Oh well, my husband’s waifu Rin and my husbando Haru are still together and happy so all is well I gues.
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