#the tudors (the dynasty not the tv show)

[isabelawritesthings]

Recommending series and films about the Tudor Dynasty in chronological order

1. THE WHITE PRINCESS (Beginning of the reign of King Henry VII)

2. THE SPANISH PRINCESS (continuation of TWP, tells the story about Queen Catherine of Aragon, first wife of King Henry VIII)

3. THE TUDORS (starts in the early years of King Henry VIII's reign and ends at the end of his life, tells the story of important politicians of his reign such as Cardinal Wolsey, Thomas More and Thomas Cromwell, as well as obviously talking about his six wives)

4. BECOMING ELIZABETH (tells of the younger years of Queen Elizabeth I during the reign of her half-brother, King Edward VI)

5. LADY JANE (Helena Bonham Carter stars in this 1986 film, covering the short reign of Lady Jane Grey, who succeeded King Edward VI shortly after his death from tuberculosis)

6. ELIZABETH (A classic in Cate Blanchett's career, it tells the story of the reign of Queen Elizabeth I)

7. ELIZABETH: THE GOLDEN AGE (Sequel to 1998's Elizabeth, tells of the threats Elizabeth faced during her reign, including Mary Stuart's claim to the English throne)

OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS

1. THE OTHER BOLEYN GIRL (It tells the story of sisters Mary and Anne Boleyn, both lovers of King Henry VIII, Anne would become Henry's second wife and mother of Elizabeth I)

2. WOLF HALL (The story is told from the point of view of Lord Chancellor Thomas Cromwell, during the tumultuous divorce of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon, as well as his marriage to Anne Boleyn.

3. MY LADY JANE (A dystopian fantasy about Lady Jane Grey, but fun to watch)

4. REIGN (It focuses mainly on the dispute between Elizabeth I and Mary Stuart for the English throne)

Keep in mind that most of these series and films are not completely faithful to historical facts, but still maintain most of the events.

[nostalgia-tblr]

Currently reading a book about Queen Jane (don't worry I already know this Does Not End Well) and this may be the one time when Mary Tudor's stubbornly sticking to her guns until everyone around her Sees Reason actually works. Though not quite, I suppose, since it didn't take long for her to get the throne. But! Someone else made a decision that affected her life and she went "Get fucked" and insisted she was still queen of England* and won! Sadly I remember it being mostly downhill for her from here but still! She won a thing!

Jane's problem partly seems to be that the public phone-in vote for "Who Should Be Queen?" is running the one everyone's long been assuming would be queen against an unknown who was only added to the poll so there'd be some Drama created by the idea that the favourite might not win. Otherwise Mary's fans might not bother to pay £1 to vote for her, and then where would we be? (Answer: poorer, and in a reality where there were phones in the 16th century.)

John Dudley has a lot of sons, I bet Henry 8th hated him. At least one of them dies in this story, and it's weird that the highlight here is the occasional glimpse of the son you know from books about Elizabeth 1st, who also hasn't done much in this tale but ooh it's another Celeb Cameo when she pops up to claim to be too ill to travel!

Actually I was surprised by how late Dudley & Co left the "capture the two people ahead of Jane in the line of succession" part of their plot, but I suppose they didn't know when Edward was going to die and if you move too soon everyone's just going to ask "Why have you put the princesses in the Tower? Are you doing a sequel to Richard 3rd?" which would be Awkward AF at the very least. Especially if Edward then somehow didn't even die. But anyway they did leave it a bit late and were left in an "oh shit, the other queen can move across the board in any direction" panic.

It's quite shite for Jane, really. She didn't want to be queen anyway, she just wanted to read books :(

(*she's also claiming to be queen of France and Ireland, as was traditional, but those are... "less fact-based" we might say.)

[kazz-brekker]

people who enjoyed larys strong on this season of house of the dragon should also check out the shardlake books by cj sansom and the tv adaptation. the main character is not an evil adviser (sorry) but he's a disabled lawyer with scoliosis solving murders during the tudor dynasty and there's a lot of similar exploration of historical ableism and having to rely on your mind rather than your body when making your way up in the world. also they actually cast a disabled actor as the main character in the tv show which i appreciate.

[6ebe]

does anybody remember when I accurately predicted how game of thrones tv show would end bc I had a basic understanding of how the Tudor dynasty ended. lol.

[redladydeath]

you know, i actually really hope mary and george is successful. starz has basically run out of tudor and tudor-adjacent stuff to make shows out of, so they might as well move onto the stuarts. i want a steady stream of trashy, oversexed tv shows about this trashy, oversexed dynasty.

[natequarter]

i have three thoughts on the tudors (the tv show, not the dynasty):

omg peter o'toole

inaccuracies are expected; the specific inaccuracies it uses are not

why the FUCK is henry viii not ginger

[a-withering-pomegranate-flower]

Soooo I am watching all Tudor related movies and TV series. I am going to write about my feelings and thoughts aboit each one of them in this blog. Because why not?

Also I am also gonna watch Mary QoS movies bcs I want to so let's pretend she is a Tudor and not a Stuart because I want to write about those movies too.

[hella-ela]

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Happier And Sadder

[kazz-brekker]

they should drop the my lady jane tv show already…i loved the book when i was 15 and i think the world is ready for a princess bride style tudor dynasty comedy

[realcatalina]

Tudor Week 2022 Day 3

I must admit I am so critical I find some big fault with every single movie and tv show about Tudor dynasty. Hence it was really hard for me to pick. Still I much enjoyed The Shadow of the Tower.

Especially choosing very young actors to play the kids. I just love that Catherine of Aragon looks there upon arrival to England this young, because this might be actually accurate detail suggested by Juana’s portraits and portraits of one of Catherine’s nieces. These women might have looked very young looking even after their teens years being over.

Also while her headwear and sleeves aren’t that accurate, the height of waist and shape of skirt formed by verdugado beneat is pretty good(spanish paintings suggest it should be tiny bit narrower as it goes towards the floor-but I am happy with this). 

And there were other accurate things like Catherine being also sick with Arthur and very weak after returning to court afterwards, not able to speak English Elizabeth of York being very kind to her and plenty more.

Overall this is my pick on very underated Catherine of Aragon.

[the-empress-7]

It’s incredible how alive her memory still is, and it’s even more incredible that Hollywood keeps churning out new projects about her without any irony. - She's like the Tudors. Hollywood has been churning out films and TV shows about the Tudors since the 1930s if not earlier. Especially films / TV shows about Henry 8 or Elizabeth 1. Occasionally another dynasty or royal gets a look in, but it gets back to those 2 soon enough.

The difference is the direct family members of the Tudors were long dead before Hollywood start churning out movies. Diana's family is very much alive, from sons, to siblings, to grandchildren.

[edwardslovelyelizabeth]

Tudor Week - Day 5: Favourite Tudor Fiction Media/s (Dramatized TV Show, Movie, Book etc)

The Tudors (2007–2010) dir.: Michael Hirst

"The Tudors" is a historical fiction television series set primarily in 16th-century England, created and written by Michael Hirst and produced for the American premium cable television channel Showtime. The series was a collaboration among American, British, and Canadian producers, and was filmed mostly in Ireland. It is named after the Tudor dynasty as a whole, although it is based specifically upon the reign of King Henry VIII.

The Tudors was nominated for the Golden Globe for Best Drama Series in 2007. Jonathan Rhys Meyers was also nominated for the Best Actor in a Television Drama Golden Globe for his role. The series won the 2007 59th Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards for Outstanding Costumes for a Series and Outstanding Main Title Theme Music.

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"The White Princess," "The Spanish Princess" and why my fanfics are cheesy royalty garbage. LONG POST.

Preface: I'm well aware that the institution and ideas of monarchy are outdated. This post is not an endorsement, rather my incoherent ramblings gushing over the stories that came from these time periods.

I've had an interest in history for as long as I remembered. The older the civilization, the more fascinated I am with it. What boggled my then child mind was the idea that one person could be chosen by god(s) to rule over a realm, and that their entire family was born to hold power. Not just their family, but the families of other 'nobles' throughout the ancient till medieval world. This once commonly held idea shaped the course of human history until Napoleon started spreading revolutionary ideas through his conquests (seeds which lead to the downfall of many European monarchies)

But what the hell does this have to do with TV shows or my fanfictions? We're getting there. But just know that actual historical events heavily influenced those shows, even if they took many creative liberties.

Introducing The White Princess:

"The White Princess" was a production by Starz (bottle yard studios. Interesting name) based on a book of the same name, which in turn was based on the life of Elizabeth of York straight off the heels of the wars of the roses.

What the hell is that? Basically a cousins war that started between two branches of the then English royal family. The then Earl of Warrick turned against king Henry VI after he married Elizabeth Woodville, Elizabeth of York's mother, in secret.

Long story short: Elizabeth's family, the Yorkists, were heirs to the throne of England but were usurped by their relative and uncle Richard. He crowned himself Richard III after claiming that Elizabeth's brother, Edward, was illegitimate. Elizabeth's mother then struck a deal with her family's ancestral enemy, a Lancastrian named Margaret Beaufort. Their children, Henry VII and Elizabeth of York, will marry to end the decades long cousins war.

Elizabeth's brothers, Edward and Richard, were locked up in the tower of London by Richard III. It was said he killed them to ensure his security on the throne, though in the books/show it was Margaret who ordered their deaths. Their bodies were never found.

In the show Elizabeth of York had a love affair with Richard III. Which is creepy, but not totally unusual for the time. She hated Henry VII for killing him, and wished they never marry. Henry VII returned those feelings and threatened to break the marriage treaty between them, though they were eventually persuaded to out of fear England would fall into another civil war.

The absolute CRACK that is this show:

If you know me, then you know I'm a sucker for opposites attracts and high-tension character dynamics. And this show? OH BOY, did it DELIVER.

Henry and Elizabeth started out absolutely hating each other. Her mother and her placed a 'curse' on the Tudor linage which doomed the male line of their family, that's how much she hated Henry. Henry, being the petty bitch that he was, returned those feelings by slut-shaming her for her past relationship with Richard. However, once they got married and Elizabeth gave birth to a son, Henry began softening up.

Footnote: it was imperative for a ruling monarch at the time to sire male heirs. They considered daughters 'useless,' because they were thought incapable of continuing dynasties. It's all super fucking sexist, but such was Tudor England.

Elizabeth first thought to use her husband's newfound affection to manipulate him. But after realizing it meant destroying her son's future, she threw herself into mending her marriage. Henry was eager to do the same, as they realized they had a lot in common and complimented each other's weaknesses. I kid you not, I screamed so many times they kissed or even touch. They came so far FR.

After a time-skip and two more kids (though historically Elizabeth had six more before dying delivering her final one) they've grown closer than ever. Henry's affection for Elizabeth is so obvious, that in both the show and historical records, it was said that people could see it from a mile away. Elizabeth reciprocated his love equally, often sharing a bed with him at a time where it was unusual for a royal couple to.

GOD. They're just SO FUCKING CUTE.

There was this episode where Henry was facing rebellion. Elizabeth read a note from her mother and looked distraught. Then Henry, THE FUCKING KING, KNELT down on HIS KNEES to ask her what's wrong. It might seem small to us now, but back then it was UNPRECEDENTED for a king to do that for anyone.

Half his troops deserted when he went to fight off the rebellion, favoring the guy who claimed to be England's rightful king instead (Henry was unpopular so people jumped at the chance to rise against him) You wanna know what Elizabeth did? SHE RODE TO THE DESERTING TROOPS AND GAVE A PASSIONATE SPEECH, URGING THE MEN TO SIDE WITH THEIR KING AND HER, THEIR QUEEN. AND IT WORKED!!!! Thousands of men RETURNED all because Elizabeth delivered a speech in her husband's name. If that's not romantic irdk what it.

Just watch the show y'all, it's literally AMAZING.

The Spanish Princess. AKA Catherine and Henry's dramatic love affair.

Footnote: The Henry in this section is Henry VIII, not his father Henry VII.

Catherine of Aragon was the daughter of the legendary Isabella of Castile and Ferdinand of Aragon. She was betrothed to Arthur, crown prince of England, her whole life and was trained accordingly. She couldn't imagine a life where she wasn't Queen of England. Sadly, her husband dropped dead three months into their marriage. Things were looking up though, because prince Henry is a manwhore and started giving her bedroom eyes as soon as his brother died.

I'm not gonna lie, I had no idea what was happening for most of season 1. Everything happened so fast and all at once, that the only thing I could process was Henry and Catherine's unbridled affection for one another. I really have no words to describe just how much they desired each other, how their dynamic was so fun to watch, how they complimented each other so well. Like, just watch it for yourself and you'll see what I mean.

Every time, EVERY TIME Henry looks at Catherine, he looks at her with so much love and devotion it's almost impossible to comprehend. This man, who we came to know as a wife-killing narcissist, fell absolutely head over heels for her. And it was historically accurate too! Many accounts said their marriage was was great (till Catherine entered menopause before giving birth to sons)

But Henry didn't discard Catherine as soon as their first son died. he was hopeful they'd have more, and there was nothing indicating they'd suffer four miscarriages. Both of them were crushed each time, but Henry got increasingly paranoid. He was only the second Tudor king, he needed an heir to continue his dynasty (in adherence with the bullshit laws of his time anyway) So it was only after Catherine stopped being able to get pregnant did he start eyeing Anne Boleyn.

Footnote: This in NO WAY excuses how he treated Catherine in their later years. Henry was considered to be a smart, enlightened man by most accounts, but totally FAILED to challenge the misogynistic beliefs of his time. He let his insecurity get the better of him, and that's his fault 100%

But before all the tragedy, it was almost painful to watch them falling in love. We have hindsight, but they didn't. So watching them genuinely care about one another in the most tender of ways, UGH, it's just too much bro.

What the hell does any of this have to do with my fanfics?

It's no secret that I love employing drama in my stories, but I bet you didn't know I pull from history half the time. Well, not exactly. I don't copy it 100% but I often use it as a foundation for what will happen. This explains why everything is so balls to walls, and why anything related to royalty is taken way too seriously.

It also explains why tyzula, in my fics, is so fucking dramatic. Because I love drama, I fucking love that star-crossed lovers crushed by tragedy bullshit. I fucking LOVE IT when the main couple have to overcome differences and come to a mutual understanding, I go FERAL when they show tenderness by kneeling or kissing the other's hand. I go BERSERK when they're about to separate and have dramatic goodbyes, I froth at the mouth CRAZY when something is at stake and they have to make sacrifices. WHY???? Because I was raised watching that cheesy shit, that's why, by shows MUCH older than the two I mentioned above. The reason I pulled up those two shows was to give you an idea on what kind of media influences my story choices. And as you can tell, it's CRAZY dramatic.

In conclusion, I believe this picture perfectly sums up how passionately I feel about drama in romance-period pieces:

[royal-confessions]

“I really dislike the attitude a lot of people have that that they know all about history just because they watched a period drama which was probably 70 percent fiction and innacurate. As a history student doing my PhD rn, it has always baffled me that how can someone think that they know all about the historical figures just by watching a TV show. I have gotten into an actual spat over the War of Roses today with someone and been told that there is no way I know more about the issue than them. I am literally doing my doctorate on the Tudor dynasty and their role in shaping England and if people don't know the War of Roses is the background to it. Shows like White Queen, White Princess and the Spanish Princess are so innacurate and dramatized but people still believe them and refuse to understand the actual facts. I hate the innacuracy of these shows. In name of creative liberty they are very effectively changing historical discourse for the younger generation, most of whom believe whatever cooked up story with distorted facts are fed to them.” - Submitted by Anonymous

[bejeweledantihero]

For the tv ask game: 4 8 15 16 23 42 😉❤️ (also hiiii! I miss you!!)

I miss you too ❤️❤️

4- I already answered this but I'll pick another show, ummm how about The Walking Dead? I never could get into it, and I've heard from more than a few people that do watch that they need to end it already 🤷🏼‍♀️

8- Okay this is a tough one! While I do love being able to binge a full season, there's still something fun about the suspense of waiting week to week to get answers! I think it depends on the genre tbh.

15- I think for a while there, there were too many shows doing the documentary style format and I'm glad that's decreased for sure!

16- Hmmm I'm not sure about underrated formats, but I just want more Tudor Dynasty shows. Does that count?! My dream is a "What if?" style show for the Tudor Dynasty 😂

23- I like a good will-they-won't-they as long as it's done right. I can be patient, but the payoff needs to be properly executed or you end up ruining the show. Chloe and Lucifer from Lucifer were a pretty great example of how to do it imo.

42- Hmmm I'm not sure of the exact length of time, but when I was sick with a bad flu a few years ago, I spent at least 6 or 7 hours in bed watching Lost. I watched all the finale episodes as well as a few other favorites, like 3x06, 4x04 and 4x10. In more recent times, when s4 of Veronica Mars came out, I got off work at 11pm, stopped to get some snacks and was up until about 7am watching the first 6 episodes. Still wish I never finished the last episode 🖕🏼🖕🏼