#the postal dude lore

[ievamorta]

the postal dude from postal 2 came to life after prince harry experienced mitosis making the postal dude his evil.. counterpart thing

[ko60192]

heyyyy ! im so peeved that i've had to make a new acc due to how tumblr hates me but whatevs. gonna post my old postal stuff later,,,

i wanted to draw my idea of p1 dude because i see that everyone has different interpretations of him...

i hope u enjoy!

i'd love to see everyone elses interpretations..mines not too different from canon tbh (visually atleast)

[doink-boink]

It has been WAAAY too long since the last time I've drawn the Dudes. Love this dumb little game series dearly

[corpsesrottinginacelestialgarden]

The canonical differences between Demon and P1 Dude: How mischaracterizations lead to sanism.

There is a lot of ableism/sanism in the Postal fandom, especially surrounding P1 Dude. I'm tired of people thinking that Demon and P1 Dude are the same entity/personality/have the same moral conduct. I understand how easy it is for misinformation to spread about old indie games. I am not here to attack anyone. I just wanna shed some light on a few things.

There is a reason that P1 Dude's journal entries sound and look completely different from Demon's. P1 Dude was completely detached from reality and believed he was killing monsters to "save humanity," not innocent people. Yes, P1 Dude was a terrified, anxious, traumatized, psychotic man. Meanwhile, Demon was a cold sadist who enjoyed killing and spouting off goofy one-liners. They have distinctive personalities.

RWS has stated many times that P1 Dude was an average guy that was really going through it before he "went postal". He was not plotting, planning, or scheming to kill a bunch of people. (He is not like Notim from Hatred.) Quite the opposite. He only purchased a Kevlar vest and armed himself at the point he felt his life was in mortal danger.

He lived in a dangerous area of Paradise in which he heard gunshots and screams after dark every night. When he began to feel genuinely threatened, he purchased a singular gun. (This is all in the lore.) The rest of his weapons are found and collected in-game. He did not begin shooting at anyone until the cops literally came barging into his front yard shooting at him first. While that doesn't justify him going on a killing spree, it is the moment that set off his paranoid delusion fully.

We know from the lore that Paradise is a fucked up place filled with dangerous people. There is something genuinely wrong with Paradise that pushed Dude to this point (even if he likely already had mental health issues). The real-world threats he was experiencing amplified the delusion that everyone was out to get him. Chronic stress and trauma can make a person become highly psychotic. You are not immune.

The wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time makes all the terrifying difference. RWS stated he is an "everyman". He is meant to be related to without condoning what he does. The whole idea behind Postal 1 is that this could happen to anyone in the right circumstances. Absolutely anyone can develop psychosis if they experience enough stress.

In P1 Dude's journal entries, he repeatedly stated that he was scared and thought people were trying to kill him. He was straight up visually perceiving the people shooting at him as creatures infected with the "hate plague". Many of the loading screens show what people looked like through his eyes. They have heavily distorted, skeletal, and monstrous faces. On the flip side, Demon's journal entries are quite sadistic, playful, and a bit poetic. Demon speaks completely differently from Dude, aside from a few later journal entries when his sanity slips further. It seems like the delusion is worsening at that point and Demon (if real) is possibly taking over further. It is important to note that Dude never speaks in-game. That is all Demon's voice speaking. RWS confirmed this.

According to RWS, no one else can hear this voice but him. It was deliberately left ambiguous as to whether or not this is an actual demon possessing him, or merely part of his psychotic delusion. Nonetheless, P1 Dude completely lacked agency over Demon's thoughts/behavior. Thus, wholeheartedly blaming P1 Dude as if he was somehow aware of what he was doing during his psychosis is straight up nonsense.

You could say he was like a puppet for Demon/his delusions. To say there is no difference between P1 Dude and Demon is to fundamentally misunderstand how this character was written. He did not know what happened until the end of the game when he realized he was attempting to harm children. That's what made him collapse to the ground in shock and horror. Everything I have stated is 100% canon and can be sourced directly from the original Postal 1 manual, in-game lore, canon information in the game files, RWS' social media accounts where they answer fan questions, and old interviews with the original dev team.

This may be a tough pill for some to swallow, but there are people with psychosis so extreme that they are 100% lacking in awareness of their own behavior. That is a real thing that happens to people all the time. There truly is a lot of ableism, sanism, and misconceptions about how psychosis works in this fandom. Please don't contribute more stigma toward psychotic people if you can help it.

With all that being said and done:

Do I think what he did is ok? HELL NO!!! I can deeply empathize with a traumatized psychotic man who thought he was “saving humanity” by killing monsters without condoning his actions. So can you, even if it is solely cognitive empathy. Severe persecutory delusions are no joke! That's a pretty tragic situation to be on either end of. Imagine thinking you were doing something akin to killing off a zombie outbreak…only to realize you committed absolute atrocities. That's peak psychological horror, my dude. That's raw and real as hell to me.

I am not primarily concerned with P1 Dude's overall sense of morality. My focus is on pointing out the clear moral discrepancies/dilemmas that were deliberately written into the lore. These are moral discussions in the context of Dude's delusional perspective. Obviously, from the player's perspective/morals, his delusion is completely fucked and not logical. It is a delusion, after all. Explanations don't and should never equal justifications. I am not focused on if he is good or evil, as I do not believe in that type of thing. My main focus is with understanding the context of his delusional thoughts and actions. I think people are just people. They're all capable of wonderful and terrible things. I am primarily concerned with the canon lore and ableism/sanism toward psychotic/delusional people I have been seeing. People do not choose their delusions or control them, period.

-Sincerely, someone who has experienced similar delusions.

Edit: I originally wrote this post when I was sick, sleep deprived, and had a hellish headache. I have since tried to elaborate on several points I feel I did not explain in a nuanced enough way, initially.

I have noticed some people quote the Postal Strategy Guide claiming that P1 Dude shot first. That is a fair concern to bring up. This is slight misinformation on the original writer's part. Even if you do absolutely nothing in the game but stand around, the cops shoot first. Paul did not work at RWS, was not a game dev, and did not write the lore. Vince Desi confirmed P1 Dude was, indeed, attacked initially. Misconceptions and errors are very common in game strategy guide books from the 90s and early to mid 2000's.

[doubleaabat]

These are really crappy, but I desperately needed facial references for the way I draw the Postal dudes !!!

[mishihao]

a guy that goes postal idk

[p0stalguy]

Not crk but finally a lore dump for my ocs LOL

Here is the blanc character

Mind me saying france instead of paris omfg

[redswaberkez]

lemme introduce

[reduxable]

liquid dude maybe

(older stuff)

[mint-mumbles]

[demonir]

Was feeding my dogs which takes a lot of time (not the point) so I had plenty of time to have the stupidest unfiltered thoughts in my head so I started thinking abt the fact postal 2 dude was like legit married....

like that weirdo of a man had a relationship that lasted long enough for marriage and idk how long they were together but it doesn't matter bc postal dude went on murderous rampages for like a whole week but at the end of the day he'd return home to his mean wife that called him names and insulted his masculinity and even at the boiling point of their relationship he didn't kill her he shot himself instead

like goddamn that woman was something if postal dude wasn't willing to kill her over the slightest inconvenience

He DID kill her after she became a giant mutant monster but like still

[bigeloo]

Dude.... we can't both exist. I'm going to become half of you. and need you to know that every moment you love being yourself... that's me... loving you ...and loving being you because you're going to be something extraordinary.... you're going to be a POSTAL Dude.

(credit for the accursed idea goes to: @denni-vocap)

[martyryo]

postal 3 dude and tyler + postal 2 dude and fight club narrator.. friends??? question mark

“me and myself!” core /j

thank you for hearing me out

- @sixmonths0sleep

I see your vision yes yes u.u

Imo p23 (is this how we ship in the postal fandom, I have no idea 💥💥) and soapship have similarities when it comes to the relationship aspect, but I'm pretty sure narrator wouldn't stand p2's ass 😭😭 and dude would prolly drive him insane like yes omg.

I DID tho imagine rator bonding with movie dude due to both being corporate slaves in their different ways...

And yeah p3 and tyler share braincells definitely.

Thanks for sharing ☕

[doubleaabat]

Peace dude found a sad old paper in his van and decided to fill it out