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I saw this post and had to make one for Destiel
#and it works for both of them#cause Chuck fucked them both up so severely#supernatural#spn#supernatural rewatch#spn family#spn rewatch#Castiel#cas#dean winchester#deancas#destiel#chuck shurley
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the hill that i will die on is that cas would have never said he loved dean if he had to deal with the consequences of it afterwards, meanwhile dean (who was SUPPOSED to tell cas he loved him in the original crypt scene script) would have eventually worked up to saying it without external pressure
#listen#LISTEN#i know there's a bunch of takes out there that basically amount to dean being too emotionally stunted to know what he's feeling#but dean's problem has always been being TOO connected to his emotions and being unable to process that#meanwhile cas our sexy avoidant king and chronic ghoster would rather die than acknowledge something that big#like are we forgetting that cas's big move after fucking everything up was to go insane and basically not deal with the problem#meanwhile dean is trying to have a heart to heart with every family member love interest and pseudo adopted daughter every six seconds#ANYWAY yeah#if cas hadn't have made a deal with the empty and if that deal didn't ultimately conveniently correlate with saving dean's life?#cas wouldn't have said shit#FREAK <3#mean while dean winchester (WHO HAD MORE TO SAY IN PURGATORY!) would have eventually worked his way up to it#and im not saying he'd handle it well bc he'd probably drop it and then be weird about it forever#but he's more likely to be the first to acknowledge it if they weren't being pressured by outside forces#dean studies#cas studies#im so fucking normal about them#dean winchester#castiel
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wrt prev post and sam’s original ‘fed demon blood by azazel as a baby’ arc like. actually that was the most insane thing to see depicted on my television especially when it seemed like no one else i knew or followed was talking about it. it felt so explicit and yet it was sooo deep in metaphor. she walked in on us. sammy, you’re my favourite. god it must be terrible to know something happened but that you’ll never be able to remember it or tell anyone about it. never be able to rip it out or scrub it clean. so azazel could get into my nursery and- bleed in my mouth? because i wasn’t clean. these trials - they’re purifying me. anyway. augh
#sometimes i think abt how i had no idea what the hell i was getting into when i started watching supernatural#i literally didn’t know sam existed. i just knew it from tumblr as the destiel show.#i didn’t even know it was a horror show initially#i didn’t know anything i just knew there were angels and it got weird and interestingly bad and meta and god was a guy called chuck#and there was this bisexual silly guy called dean winchester with daddy issues#and he had a homophobic brother#ANGERS me. rarrgh#anyway and then somehow i still started watching. watched the pilot. kept watching. became flat out obsessed in like 3 episodes.#i think i watched most of s1 in one day#and by the end i was like. oh this is good#like. Actually Good.#and i had no reference point for spn being good in especially the specific way it was good#which was a fucked up family is hell mini horror film every episode way that i really liked#anyway then i discovered samgirl tumblr when i was on like s4. And all was well#these tags r so irrelevant to the actual post but whatgeer#point stands i stumbled into this entirely accidentally and it made it so trippy to start seeing pieces come together before my eyes#csa tw#oliver talks#spn#samgirlisms
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azazel 100% believed he was in a coparenting situationship with john winchester
#supernatural#john winchester#azazel#do you understand me. idk how to expand on this but i'm convinced this is canon#he helped john raise his kids and he's going to make sure they know it#john and azazel gay dads of the year if the award is for most fucked up family situation#.txt#johnazazel
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BROOOO—THIS IS SOME NEXT LEVEL LOSER SHIT!!!! 💀💀💀💀💀
Like.... y'all wrote a whole damn "article" just to tear apart some actor whose probably more successful and rich than you'll ever be... it's just...sad. and obviously this kind of shit is total garbage and annoying and blah, blah,blah... but I couldn't help but cry laughing at just how delusional and insane this kind of behavior is. LIKE, I'M CACKLING.
Look, whether you ship any of the characters or not, (and whether I do or not)... I would never spend so much time and ENERGY, harassing and going out of my way to shame an actor/actress "for getting in the way" of said ship.
It's truly the greatest display of loserdom I've seen in awhile...
(and sidenote, are we talking about the same Cas because....????)
#supernatural fandom#supernatural#castiel#spn#castiel supernatural#dean winchester#misha collins#destiel meme#destiel#misha misha misha#misha fucking collins#spn cast#cockles#Fat fucking YIKES bro#NoOOoo I'm cringing so bad rn 😭😭😭😭#mishapocalypse#misha posting#On some loser shit fr#cas spn#castiel novak#spn castiel#supernatural family#j2m#j2#j2 tinhat#jensen ackles#These j2 Wincest shippers are so cringey...#Like just because this guy “messes” with your ship you're going to straight up harass him and try to throw baseless allegations at him?!#And yes I'm going to call out this straight up weirdo behavior#Are we talking about the same Cas bitch?
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No thoughts, just Girl!Sammy with that cursed, horrorgirl pussy that ruins the lives of anyone who has sex with her.
#yk that dean and john would be fucking insane about girl!sam#and discourage her from dating or expressing her sexuality#despite that she loses her virginity when she’s 15-ish#relationships never last long since their family are constantly moving#if they had stayed around long enough she would noticed this strange pattern of weird things happens to people she dates#sam later finding out and becoming ashamed and disgusted of her sexuality….. GOD#and viewing it as inherently wrong#*bites fist until the skin is bloody and chewed up*#sam winchester#girl!sam#supernatural
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AU where Sam and Dean find out they have an 11 month old half brother a year after John Winchester's death. And worst of all, his mum is just about 20.
I need the angst, the anger and the fucked up situation of it all.
When they first meet the girl, she's a waitress at a shitty dinner in a random town, serving Dean his greasy burger and Sam his salad. She looks so terribly young and exhausted despite the polite customer service smile and laughs she lets out.
She's pretty and Dean throws one of his charming grins her way and flirts with her, watching her trying to keep it professional and scribble aggressively their orders in her little notepad. Sam kicks him under the table, feeling bad for the girl. And then she leaves, but without Dean's eyes following her until she disappears to the back.
Then her manager gets brutally mauled in the diner by the monster of the week after closing hours and Dean and Sam investigate the scene. They spend a night after the other following each of her co-workers back to their homes, watching over them and for the beast to strike. Nothing happened, not a single peep from the monster. And so the next night was her turn to be stalked by the brothers in the dead of night, parked not far away from the filthy and run-down apparently she calls home.
They wait, and wait, taking turns walking around the building in case anything pops up. Until a screams makes them run up the stairs with weapons in hand, breaking the door without a second thought. Bullets fly and sobs gets louder and louder from the poor waitress, curled on the floor against the wall. When the thing's dead and it's all over, Dean tries to get her to stop crying, until he realises it wasn't her sobbing but a little baby boy clutched to her chest and he gets hit with hauntingly familiar eyes and dark hair.
Sam helps the girl up when Dean is all but frozen, still dripping with sweat and hair stuck in every direction and smelling of the impala and shitty coffee.
The girl shushes her babyboy, trying to stop her body from trembling and trying to rip her eyes away from the disgusting sight in the middle of her flat, blood soaking most of the wooden floorboard at their feet.
It takes them a while to all calm down, sitting in the other side of the flat, on her bed with her babyboy still in her arms. Her eyes look foogy, they have that far away look in them, her hair sticking in all directions and her thin t-shirt falling of one shoulder, blood drops drying on her barefeet from the chaos.
"Who are you? You're not FBI.." She whispers, looking up at Sam and Dean with a sad and scared face, a face that only begs to be hugged and protected from all dangers of the world.
"We're hunters, we help get rid of-- monsters." Sam explains, trying and failing to give her a reassuring smile, unable to look at her in the eyes for too long.
"How old are you?" Dean suddenly asks and she feels scared, his tone empty of any comfort.
Sam doesn't say anything but looks at Dean, frustration, anger and fear swimming behind his tired eyes.
"Why?" She asks, eyes flitting between the two in fear.
"Answer the question." Dean repeats.
"Dean," Sam says, unsure what he's even trying to do. He wants to know too, this couldn't be a coincidence at all, the little boy looks a lot like their father and them for that matter.
"I'm," She clears her throat, "I'm 20."
"Fuck," Dean says and all but collapses on her bed, sitting with his elbows on his knees, Gun still in hand while his hands covered his face.
"What?" She says, eyes wide. "What does that have to do with anything?" She quickly asks, defensive and scared at the same time, looking at Sam, eyes begging for answers.
"Who's his dad?.." Sam asks and gulps, watching her while Dean has a breakdown next to her on the bed.
"Uhm... It was a one night stand and I didn't bother looking for his dad-- But I don't understand-"
"Just answer the question." Sam cuts her off, making her flinch. He grimaces at her reaction and adds a, "Please..." Just for good measure.
She looks down at her babyboy sleeping against her chest, and back up at Sam, "He said his name was John."
And Sam throws up right then and there.
#very very evil laugh#idk what came over me to come up with thia#*this#but it's so good#so so good#GHH YESS GIVEE ME ANGST AND FUCKED UP FAMILY SITUATIONS YES YES YES#wincest#spn#supernatural#sam winchester#dean winchester#sam and dean#supernatural fandom#sam and dean deserve better#samdean#john winchester#john winchester x reader#john winchester x you#weirdcest#gencest#angst
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I need to quickly vent out some feelings, because I just saw someone trying to defend John Winchester.
John destroyed his children because of his own vengeance. Their mental health, their emotional health, especially Dean. No child should be the parent to their siblings. No child should have to be the emotional crutch for their parent. No child should be afraid of their parent.
When Dean was dying of heart failure, John didn't even pick up the freaking phone.
He left his sons to go spend quality time with his secret third son and protected said third son from the hunting life while his first son lived with the crushing weight of being his family's protector.
Yes, John has his trauma too, but that is not something that children should have to deal with. He did love his sons, but that is not enough. Even if you love someone, if you mistreat them, if you fail in your responsibilities to them, love is not enough.
John Winchester was an abusive absolute crap excuse for a father.
#supernatural#anti john winchester#vent#Honestly I see too much of myself in Dean and too much of certain family members in John#I can't stand the argument of “oh but he did love them” or “He was grieving”#Your babies didn't sign up for that#If you have issues then you fix yourself before you fuck up your kids
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snippet of upcoming ftv fic. set in between s3 and s4. nsfw.
“You can call me by his name. I know you want to… Sammy.”
Sam groans, and it's so wrong in so many different ways, but he can't help himself.
“Mmm… Dean…”
He thrusts particularly deep and Ruby gasps.
“That's it, Sammy, just like that,” she says, and if she's lowering her voice he doesn't mention it. He's lost in the fantasy now, imagining Dean underneath him, his tight ass around his cock. Those little pants and gasps he would do and the way he would moan Sam's name.
“God, Dean… fuck!”
She says nothing else, just moans in pleasure, and allows Sam to imagine and chase release.
(It's both kind and cruel.)
#feeling a bit stuck on this one but this is my fave part so far <3 they're all so fucked up <3#family tree 'verse#wincest#samdean#wincest fic#samdean fic#samruby#sam winchester#spn#nep's writing#nep's fanfic
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coming out to say I think the ending was evil as balls and horrible to sam why'd you force him to live intrinsically broken inside and hollow living for the longest soul-decaying while without the person he loves most waking up every day and going goddammit not again while becoming a shell of a human it's almost sadistic why'd you do this to him
#having an apple pie life could have been ideal at the beginning if dean never showed up at his door in Stanford#but he did and they went through so much sam's priorities and who he is completely shifted#at the risk of sounding corny at the beginning if it could be measured#sam was 80% him 20% family and stuff#by the end he was left with 80% dean and him 20% void#it's simply not the same#seeing him live an excruciatingly long life alone knowing he's not emotionally present the half of it and his greatest wish is to die#that's tragic#truly when we dead awaken#samdean#sam winchester#mine#dean is equally fucked up for forcing this on sam too#sorry the montage in the bunker is anything but typical grief one could perfectly recover from#that said I love the finale for what it was (the barn scene samdean being domestic sam living a tragedy and them reuniting)#not a single person who is balls against the wall hating it can come up with a better ending if not straight up dogshit scenarios#It's not perfect I'm sure no one could've delivered one full-fledgedly rewarding except kripke but it was great for what's it worth#It was focused on sam and dean especially sam wasn't sidelined like he been for a while and that's the win I'll live and die with#spn#supernatural#also 7 minutes of incest the blueprint
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domestic destiel with baby jack except that dean wants to kill himself the entire time because he feels like he’s trapped and can’t keep going through these motions that he doesn’t feel
#<3 i can make this work. i can make this interesting for me.#jack is also not actually baby he’s just shaped like that. he is also suffering and hates it#cas would be having a nice time except that no one else is and even if he doesnt know because theyre lying the vibes are rancid and bleeding#into him#sam is having a bad time too because dean is pushing him out of the picture to better fit the ideal of married life#even if all he’d rather do is live with his brother and chill and run the bunker#keeps saying ‘sam when are you going to marry eileen?’ wedding ring on his finger from when he dragged his vows from his throat for cas to#be happy. (sam broke up with eileen months ago. he just wants his brother back. he wants his best friend back. he wants to stop sitting on#the outside of their family. he wants to see his son as his son and not when he’s pretending to be a child.)#this is going to explode so horribly for everyone <3#personally i think jack should finally lose it from how he has to play at being so much smaller and less than he is#and burn their fucking house down and run away to sam. and then dean and cas can divorce over the ashes#and then. maybe. they can move forward into a life they can be happy in. not one they force themselves to fit#spn#dean winchester#castiel spn#jack kline#aro!dean#tw suicide
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dean thinks about his daughter emma, charlie, kevin, ellen, jo, pamela, benny, kelly ALL the fucking time guys no one understands actually hes constantly thinking about Them
#supernatural#dean winchester#he think about his daughter guys im gonna throw up#didnt add bobby and cas because i mean theyre his family theyre more important to him#and NOTHING for john winchester#fuck john winchester#i was only going to mention emma but then the names just came to me the mans deeply traumatized and grieving everyones hes ever known
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i’ve never been as angry on behalf of a character as i am for sam winchester
#currently thinking about season four and five. absolutely fuckibg mental#the world literally reshapes itself around him to prove him wrong#its all framed as God. Sam was so stupid and selfish and reckless for drinking demon blood. He just liked the power of it and he chose a#DEMON over DEAN.#but. that’s not the story they tell in s4.#like even aside from every single other complexity. Sam is literally right. he has ZERO WAY of knowing that killing lilith is the final seal#AND DEAN DOESNT KNOW TJAT EITHER. like sam is literally right he can kill lilith and he does kill lilith. dean wants lilith dead just as#much. sam’s cardinal sin is disobeying dean and then the world flips around on him and plot twist sam and dean were both wrong all along and#killing lilith is what will bring back lucifer :)#but. it’s not framed like that either. it’s framed like SAM BROUGHT BACK LUCIFER BY KILLING LILITH WHILE HIGH ON DEMON BLOOD#dean you wanted to kill lilith too?????????#but. doesn’t matter dean despite being mostly motivated by jealous anger is retroactively proven to be Right#and sam is retroactively proven to be Wrong. he is bad#i just. jesus. sam’s not evil ever. he’s hardly even that fucking morally grey#and he still thinks there’s something wrong with him that he’s a freak that he’s inherently evil and needs to be purified#why?? cause of something fucked up that happened to him when he was a baby#and because he’s disobeyed his father and his brother and been angry at awful things that have happened to him#makes me feel fucking insane actually#no wonder narrative frames sam as evil no wonder he’s inherently marked as Bad by the forces in supernatural like even on a meta level#in supernatural gods just another shitty father. embodiment of the familial patriarch. and from sam’s very first moment on the show he’s in#opposition to that he’s ran away from john and he argues with dean. therefore he is evil#i don’t think my words r really making sense right now but. fucking hell#and sam is so swamped in guilt all of season five and he just fucking accepts that everything bad is his fault#and he gets tortured in the cage to save the fucking world and it’s STILL not enough. not to appease his own guilt and not to appease deans#anger at him. dean is still throwing his perceived violations back at him in like season nine!!#and whenever he tries to get out it’s treated as yet another Sin. narrative acts like sam thinking dean was dead and having a life outside#of hunting is The Worst Thing He Ever Did#worst sin sam ever commits in the eyes of the show is disobedience. Absolutely awful actually#spn#sam winchester
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it's so significant to me that do you believe in miracles paralleled all hell breaks loose specifically. because ahbl is the first time dean violates sam's autonomy to bring him back to life. it shows the extreme lengths that dean will go to protect sam, and despite all the other times dean has ignored sam's personhood in his pursuit to keep him alive, this is the moment in the show that fully exemplifies just how codependent these two really are, because there's an entire season dedicated to the consequences of that codependency.
so for dybim to take that imagery and scenario and reverse the roles means that this is supposed to be just as indicative of their codependence. it's a threshold that will have major consequences because sam crossed over the point of no return. there's no going back from choosing unhealthy codependency with your brother, the show is signaling. dean is sam's ultimate decision—he doesn't choose himself, he doesn't choose independence, he chooses dean, and all that that entails. he probably only realizes that all of his posturing about autonomy was a lie at the very moment he says it out loud, but once he's finally honest with himself it's a done deal. just like dean can never go back from his deal for sam's life, sam can never return to any point before this moment. he's in this relationship for good, and he wants to be codependent with dean; that's his decision.
and this is why soul survivor hurts so bad. because dean, like sam in season 9, declares that they're not family, not brothers. the role reversal continues, and sam is now suffering all of the pains he unwittingly put dean through by trying to maintain boundaries between them. now that he's realized he can't handle having those boundaries, any distance between him and dean is too much. here sam is, violating dean's autonomy and saving him against his will, just like dean has done to him so many times before. here he is, listening to dean reject him over and over again, like a parody of all sam's attempts to extricate himself from dean. he's on the other side now, staring down his brother and seeing his past self within him.
9.23 to 10.03 is just a speedrun of the previous 8 seasons but in reverse, with sam enduring the suffering of being in dean's position. and how tragic is it for sam to finally commit to his codependent relationship with dean, only for dean to leave him the moment it happens? how must that feel, for him to finally return his brother's feelings in all their toxic and fucked up glory, only to lose him in the worst way? to have all of his own words shouted back at him with the cruel intent to hurt—jesus christ. how am i supposed to cope with this in any normal way?
#supernatural#wincest#this isn't even beginning to touch on the actual content of the 10.03 exchange. i could write another essay on the mention of john alone#seriously this role reversal shit has poisoned my brain. i'm NOT okay about this#if i could get a phd in the emotional plot of supernatural seasons 8-10 i would actually#this show IS so good at the big picture. it fucks up the small stuff so bad but the overarching meaning and plot is genuinely good#the parallels and reversals and mirroring in s8-10 are seriously evocative and poignant. and for what#it's 6am. my dogs woke me up at 4:30 to pee and i've been thinking about this nonstop ever since#how could they do this to me#the significance of dean being the one to throw away the family just when sam finally embraces it. jesus christ#and the fact that he has to be a demon to do that too#i'm so sick. nauseous over this. fuck#i'm going back to bed. good night#.txt#the winchester gospel#spn posting#9.23#2.22#10.03
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Something about Sam trying so hard to escape the life of hunting and actually escaping and being happy just to be dragged back in. Something about Mary cutting all ties to her family to try and have a normal life with her family only to become the reason her family gets become hunters in the first place. Something about being doomed to repeat the same things that happened to your family. Something about having an inescapable faith that you hate.
#spn#supernatural#this fucking show#this actually hits me so hard#something about running from a life you hate only to end up there anyways#especially if you hate it because of your family#some sort of fucked up infinite cicle#the parallels between the break me#littarly no idea how to formulate this but thoose who get it get it#sam winchester#mary winchester
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what can I say? I'm a 'john winchester calls his boys sweetheart' truther
#just his voice as he hugs them and holds them#he's fucked them up irrevocably but he's also so goddamn soft 🥺#john winchester#spn#winchester family#mine
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