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genderqueersammy · 8 hours ago

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Ultimate Incest Tournament - Round 3

Propaganda under the cut

Liam/Noel:

The Gallagher brothers have a very intense relationship that doesn't make any sense to the outside viewer unless one considers the possibility of incest. For 30 years now they have been utterly unhinged about one another in the public eye. Noel has often made incest jokes; Liam once said on-stage once "we had sex last night" referring to him and Noel. Even people writing in actual books and magazines have picked up on the vibes (some stuff that has been printed about them fully feels like it was written by tumblr incestinas except it's like. actual fucking journalists). Also there was this one time in 1996 where they kissed each other with tongue in front of 40 thousand people.

They have been described as “in love with each other” by both themselves and third parties. the lyrics “you’re my lover, i’m your brother.” they kissed with tongue at loch lomond in 1996 and have also been photographed/videoed kissing on the mouth other times. liam regularly groped noel onstage. liam’s entire twitter is just propaganda too. liam talked about impregnating noel once. noel frequently talks about how physically attractive liam is. liam claims that he’s noel’s muse

their song guess god thinks im abel has the lyrics "i could be your lover" while comparing themselves to you guessed it abel and cain. and like. a thousand more instances of them being weird about each other. also noel REALLY wanted a sister and he mentioned it quite a few times and said well liam IS basically a sister or something like that. normal behaviour

Liam literally called himself Noel's good boy on twitter, and called him god a few times after reunion. Noel said he loves make women cry and the only thing that's better is make Liam cry so he can laugh and call him a woman. They literally kissed with tongue and loch lomand is not their only kiss they have two more photos of different kissing to, they literally used the japan kiss video for reunion video. YES THEY DID THAT TF. Noel said they are head over heels in love and said it's illegal in many countries. Also Noel said Liam is like his ex-wife a few times or shit like those cunts are fucking crazy

Other people have described them as more like boyfriend/girlfriend than brothers and said they’re in love. someone on twitter asked liam “if you’re john lennon, who is noel?” and liam said “yoko ono.” another time someone said on twitter “you defo rimmed noel when you were younger” and liam replied “you jealous?"

Deeply weird about each other getting married (them not attending each other's wedding which occurred month apart and then getting divorce around the same time and they stayed at the same hotel for months), intense infamously love-hate relationship and is everyone's favorite soap opera, noel saying "on stage i just wanted him..there's only two of us that will ever get this", prominent theme of shame and crime and impossible dream in noel gallagher works, the elusive meaning of wonderwall which noel insisted is not about anyone but there's good amount of evidence that it referenced back to their childhood and their shared bedroom, liam having mental breakdown several times on twitter about noel, liam's my brother is getting a divorce playlist to which he shared with his 3 millions twitter followers, incest-baiting on main ever since the reunion, brother and lover being interchangeable for noel when writing lyrics, noel (allegedly) lying to liam that his girlfriend cheated on him in order to sabotage their relationship before oasis took off, liam hating noel's latest (ex) wife (sarah), noel writing "the owner of the star on stage" after liam's autograph and so many more insane shit

"[Liam] thinks all the songs are about him. He even thinks Wonderwall is about him." –Noel Gallagher (1997)

"It's all about me it always was and is" –Liam Gallagher (2023)

Japan kiss (kiss is at the end) loch lomand kiss

PLUS they’re back together after 14 years of estrangement! The narrative!

Sam/John:

Overprotective controlling dad, bratty rebellious confrontational Sam, the eventual realization of what John was trying to protect him from, the sad dad puppy eyes

Often overlooked in the Winchester family incest dynamics which is sad because it fucks so hard; John has such complex feelings regarding Sam because his birth indirectly causes the death of Sam and Dean’s mother and leads to the Winchesters becoming like that. John sees the sweet boy he loves and the monster Sam is fated to become, and is torn between saving or killing him. Keeping Sam safe and innocent is one of the main motivations behind John’s terrible, desperate actions; however through the extreme countermeasures he takes, he only manages to push Sam further away and closer to his fate. It’s only after John’s death that Sam begins to understand his actions but also believes John was right to ‘want to kill him’. John may be absent for most of Supernatural but he forever haunts the narrative and his sons, the One True FatherGod of Supernatural

#if i knew this would have happened i would’ve voted for the oasis brothers #i will say…. jdm and jarpad have kissed iirc… like there was that one clip i saw

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genderqueersammy · 8 hours ago

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FAVORITE SPN CHARACTER: TOURNAMENT 2, ROUND 2, MATCH 1

Polls for this round can be found here.

#people saying it’s not that serious and not actual sam hate #hmm… would you react the same if it was your fave….#actually dgaf about what anyone thinks of sam since that automatically means we’re in different parts of the fandom #but tbh i find it super weird when they condescend to others #especially considering the fact that many of them say that they don’t like sam because of samgirls (not completely true but okay)#so you agree… all of us take fandom seriously….

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genderqueersammy · 2 days ago

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This is one of the funniest things I have ever read

#this is one of those mutual abuse posts #see i don’t think you should never talk about the ways in which sam and dean have hurt each other #but in this post it’s so obvious that op doesn’t really have anything proper to say about sam and so resorts to either #making up the stupidest ideas (sam doesn’t respect dean’s gender struggles or needs and is constantly judging him and makes poor dean so #insecure about himself)#or like… genuine victim blaming #like i don’t even like throwing these kind of accusations around in fandom but genuinely victim blaming logic #like even if you don’t think it applies to sam it was still very much victim blaming #like one of their points was that sam is overtly emotionally dependent on dean and resents it but still puts the pressure on dean #or that he misses dean’s abusive actions and when dean forms any relationships outside of them he lashes out #generally a huge point was that sam ‘acts out all the time’ in order to get dean to take action against him and then resents it m #and blames dean entirely even though the entire situation was of his making’#i don’t even agree with any of that but the points themselves are pretty fucking weird #fandom wank #spn #supernatural #unsure if i should even tag this. oh well #also one of the points was that while dean seems more misogynistic it’s just spn standard sexism #sam is sexist on a deeper level as shown in how he dominates women in sex and projects his mommy issues onto them #i mean…. hot if that happens… but this is so stupid for an analysis #also yes sam like everyone on the show has some misogynistic tendencies but i don’t think this is an instance of them #also like inagine saying sam is more misogynistic than dean #dean winchester #sam winchester #fandom discourse #discourse #fandom critical

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genderqueersammy · 2 days ago

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Sometimes I make a post and then wonder if I’m truly saying something worthwhile and then I remember that some people genuinely think that in s12 Sam was trying to make Dean look bad in front of Mary (seen this with when Dean was sarcastic towards Mary when she visited them and Sam interrupted) or downplays his feelings or twists them (seen this done for the ‘mom is not a thing’ dialogue)…. Literally the most bizarre least generous interpretation of his character, it’s insane

#also at this point sam and dean are closer than ever and spend the entire season as a unit rather than having seperate plots #or being pit against each other #generally not a sam thing like ever?? the only time i’ve ever felt sam downplayed dean’s feelings was at the beginning of s4 #where dean was apprehensive and upset about being saved by an angel (generally wrapping his mind around the whole concept esp with his own #lack of faith because of heaven’s lack of action despite all the suffering in the world)#and sam ‘desperate to believe in a higher power’ winchester didn’t understand why dean would be upset about that #maybe even a little annoyed because he desperately wanted to be saved himself #but that’s just for a moment right after #hmm if i had to say another maybe after emma was killed and sam scolds him for hesitating #but that’s not sam being insensitive so much as sam literally regurgitating what dean hammered into him with the whole amy thing #but yeah sam’s literally dean’s emotional caretaker like bsfr rn #also so funny because the same fans are the one who are like sam forces deean to open up (literally the only time he kinda does this is in #s2 and he apologises other than that he usually respects dean’s boundaries)#supernatural #sam winchester #spn

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genderqueersammy · 2 days ago

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No but it’s so funny when SPN fans pretend that Dean is 100% reasonable for the whole demon blood/powers thing because we know Dean to be prejudiced and wary of Sam’s powers, like consistently stated that Dean thinks Sam is a freak, like it’s an aversion to the powers (and then the blood) itself (never forget the commentary where Sera says she was going to have Dean say ‘I’m not a freak’ after he had a vision, and while Dean promises he will never kill Sam for going dark side, you can tell that John’s words did ultimately cement the idea that Sam has something inherently wrong with him, which progresses through s3-4.

#supernatural #spn

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genderqueersammy · 3 days ago

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threesome but it's s1 sam and s15 sam on the bed and me in a cuck chair

#baby bratty bottom sammy and milf submissive sammy…..#they pathetically grind against each other whimpering in frustration as they are unable to reach an orgasm #teary eyed drooling and rubbing their leaking cocks with no proper technique and unable to cum

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genderqueersammy · 4 days ago