#that’s what I think there ship name should be

[finallygaveintothesirencall]

#good post but I think one very important thing should be mentioned here#Fenris gets better because he can see actual real positive changes around him#the fucking captain of the guard hunts slavers with him#he's fully accepted by his circle of friends#he can finally kill Danarius and close this chapter of his life#while for Anders everything and I mean EVERYTHING gets progressively worse and no one takes it seriously#in the end even the mage Hawke starts to take jobs from Meredith (the reasons for this are another matter entirely)#the Underground is completely crushed#the abuse in the Gallows reaches some unprecedented levels of horror#and no one cares#especially Fenris#what Anders goes through in the act 3 is absolutely horrific#especially since Hawke's squad continues to treat everything that happens in the city from a centrist point of view#Aveline is annoyed that the Templars took away some of the guards' jobs but she doesn't protest#Merrill is working on the Eluvian and doesn't even bother to find out the names of her neighbors#Isabella needs money for a ship#Varric is Varric#Sebastian only cares about how good a boy he is#who can Anders talk to besides Hawke who's busy doing whatever work Meredith throws their way?#can we even call this a spiral? I'm not sure about that#anders#fenris#da2

Okay I’m just going to say it: I always found the take that “Fenris and Anders’ relationship is wasted potential” kind of irritating. At least in the way most people mean when they say it: Anders and Fenris never found common ground, and that is a waste of potential

I do agree that there are some writing let-downs in their relationship, I just don't agree that the fact that they never reach a common ground is part of it.

It is true that Fenris and Anders have more in common than differences, their trauma is ultimately based in the same thing: being held and tormented against their will by an oppressive system. If you pay attention, the narrative, the characters, and Fenris and Anders themselves are aware of this. Here's a little snippet of it shown in this Legacy dialogue

The game knows they're alike. It's not that they can't see there's common ground between them. They can. The problem is: Fenris is healing, and Anders is not

I'm going to show you more banter screenshots now

Specifically of Fenris and Anders' banter with Varric, in acts 2 and 3

Just bear with me, we'll start with Fenris

Fenris and Varric in act 2

Fenris and Varric in act 3

Now Anders

Anders and Varric in act 2

Anders and Varric in act 3

There are more banters that illustrate this point but I think these four are the strongest and also I would like to go to sleep at some point tonight.

Fenris is healing from his past, if you look at his banters as a whole, you can see across all characters he gets more open, humorous, and talkative throughout all acts. Anders does the exact opposite. Anders gets more closed off, cold, and in act 3 you'll notice he rarely speaks before being spoken to unless he's following up on a previous conversation.

It makes sense, to me at least, why they never become friends. It isn't because Anders is a mage, Bethany is a mage, anti-circle, and Fenris loves her. Don't believe me? Look on the wiki or search "Bethany" on my blog and you'll find some of their interactions. They're adorable.

It's because Anders is getting worse and Fenris is getting better. That's why all their conversations are just an exhausting loop and why they never seem to connect. To me, that is the story being told here. It was never about them finding a common ground, it was about paralleling two people and one who heals from their past, and one who does not. Making them on opposite sides of the mage/templar debate is meant to emphasize this.

I do want to state that I have mixed feelings about this. While I think it's a neat idea, it does also feed the "You were hurt by a system but now your hate for it consumes you" trope which I am. Not a fan of. You can also talk about how the world itself plays into this in that Fenris can escape from Tevinter but Anders can't escape from being a mage. That's all a retrospective for another day, I'm just talking about the intent behind the relationship here.

Basically what I’m trying to say is: A story may not go in the direction you want it to but that does not make the story bad, it just makes it the story you didn’t want. That is fine, but I take some issue when people treat it as an actual fault of the story rather than a matter of taste.

Like I said, there are plenty of actual writing issues in Dragon Age 2, and I do think that there are some wasted opportunities in Fenris and Anders' relationship. My biggest problem is that it doesn't go far enough. We see Anders spiral until he hits full rock bottom and destroys the Chantry. We see Fenris... go play some cards with his buddies. I think it would've been more effective if Fenris got a little farther in his healing, namely his relationship with magic. I've said that I don't think Fenris would ever fully trust magic and I don't, but it would've been neat to at least see more progress made than is actually made in the game. This I think is the consequence of Dragon Age 2 being a first draft like David Gaider said, I think if they had more time, they could've pushed this further and made it more interesting, but I do genuinely like what's there like I genuinely like the entirity of Dragon Age 2.

Anyway, that's why in my opinion, Anders and Fenris never finding a common ground isn't a problem from a narrative perspective.

[macsriles]

I just finished Thunderbolts and here are my general thoughts! spoilers obviously :)

- I loved it! It was so good! The reluctant found family is great and I'm excited to see more of them. I love what Marvel has been doing recently with Daredevil: Born Again, Thunderbolts, and hopefully the Fantastic Four.

- Not happy about Bucky and Sam being at odds with each other. I hated Avengers Civil War and I don't want a repeat. I get both sides but just don't want my babies fighting, particularly with Bucky teaming up with Walker. I hope they can work everything out though.

- Any mention of Nat made me cry. I will always wish that Marvel had given Nat the opportunity that Yelena has been given. Either way Nat will always have my heart. I miss her everyday. Her and Yelena’s relationship will never fail to get to me.

- I don't hate the “New Avengers” but wish they could just be the Thunderbolts. The name and story behind it fits them so much more.- I love how much Yelena and Bucky are really trying to do something with this team. Their dynamic is just tired parents and I love that lol.

-As for Bob and Yelena…I ship it. I know there's a lot of controversy about them, and idc whether you like them platonically or romantically or whatever. I saw them as a romantic pairing, and I love their dynamic. I understand that there's the comics and everything but the Marvel comic universe and cinematic universe are wildly different. The characters are almost entirely different people and I say live and let ship. I don't think anyone should be getting any hate for a ship that is not toxic or harmful. No one should be getting hate no matter if you ship it or not.

- I really like the focus on mental health and the family dynamic that they all had. They all have done awful things but are (mostly) trying to do better and they accept each other at their worst. I also love how none of them are letting Walker gloss over his actions (despite the excuses all his new fans are making) Ava and Yelena constantly picking on him is actually true sibling behavior lol

[bvnneyrabbet]

Something I've been noticing is that quite a lot of people outside of the Forsaken fandom are bashing on Forsaken fans for simply watching or interacting with classic/niche roblox stuff that had been featured in Forsaken.

Here's some of my examples.

I once watched an old Roblox machinima from I think around 2015 with Shedletsky and Builderman in it. It was random and funny, and when I went to look in the comments I saw one comment that went something along the lines of:

"I hope the forsaken fans don't get to this stuff," and it read in a very snarky and condescending way. Like, pardon? Do you not want Forsaken fans to be interested in old Roblox? Do you not want them to know more about the characters featured in Forsaken, or are you too purist for that?

Just today I found out about the origins onto where the Geometry John Doe skin was from, and it came from a roblox ARG by the name of DeivyDoesTutorials33. I found one comment saying that they came from Forsaken and wanted to catch up on the series, reading:

"Came from Pwned and Forsaken and just caught up, but I wanna say I ABSOLUTELY ALREADY ADOOOOORE SERIES. please continue when you can this is so interesting and cool to watch!!!!!!"

And one of the replies of that comment read:

"PACKGOD HUMBLE THEM FOR TIS NOOB FORSAKEN COMMENT, pwned is cool though"

I know that reply was likely sarcastic malice, but seriously, do you not want people to be interested in content that was featured in Forsaken? Do you want them to go unknowing, and make the same mistakes that happened when Dream Game/Frozen Soul was featured in Forsaken?

The reason why Frozen Soul's characters, Nashatra, Eunoia, and Mafioso were confused for being Forsaken characters is due to Forsaken being extremely popular and Frozen Soul being way more niche and obscure, also something to note is that Forsaken is a very young game, with the March 18th incident only happening when Forsaken was 3 months old.

And this issue isn't even just with Roblox stuff, it's also happening in the Limbus/Project Moon community, with people in the fandom essentially stereotyping the Forsaken fandom. I may not be interested in Limbus, but I have seen a few tiktoks about it that were completely unrelated to Forsaken, but in the comments I've seen Project Moon fans just talking shit about Forsaken.

Yes, Forsaken does have a very iffy fandom, but listen. The issues with not just it's fandom but it's PLAYERBASE is due to many environmental factors, and it's not Forsaken's fault for it to be that way, but it can change but you're just not letting them change.

Forsaken is a very popular game, which means that people from other games, specifically competitive and toxic games such as TSB are gonna flock to Forsaken and misunderstand it entirely. From what I've seen, people who join Forsaken from those games see Forsaken as a competitive battle-type game, when in reality Forsaken is a survivors VS killers game.

Also, I've seen people from PCX bash on Forsaken too, one of my most recent examples is someone leaving the Forsaken fandom due to it's toxicity, and someone in the comments saying they should join the PCX fandom instead since they're leaving. It read very condescendingly and the best I could put it would be some religious person at your doorstep unannounced trying to indoctrinate you.

If you see someone leaving a certain fandom you don't like and you immediately start yelling at them, pointing at a flashy sign saying that they should instead join your "better" fandom is a really shitty move.

On the fandom side it's different, as when it comes to fandom it focuses on the characters and lore rather than the game. Some core aspects that happen in literally any fandom, not just "the bad ones" are; woobification, sexualization, mischaracterization, shipping, and unfortunately proshipping as much as I hate it.

Shipping is not a problem at all, and woobification is an internalized infantilization that's mainly irrational. Many people mistake shipping as a purely sexual thing, when in reality shipping is much more complex than that. I do not think they should fuck or kiss, they should be suffering intimately together and find comfort in the literal purgatory they're stuck in.

Mischaracterization is also something that happens with woobification, as woobification also causes mischaracterization and vice versa.

Elliot's mischaracterization makes him out to be a hotheaded individual who hates everyone, Two Time's mischaracterization either makes them out to be a twink who needs protecting or an insane foaming-at-the-mouth psychopath who would kill everyone, and 007n7's mischaracterization makes him a frail twink.

All of these are far from canon, when their actual personalities and lore are much deeper than that. I also think mischaracterization is also mixed with sexualization, as many artworks of Two Time that I've seen make them obviously sexualized and frankly make them look like a prostitute, with weirdly prominent boobs or thighs. It's not an issue if you give them a big chest or thighs, but it's an issue if you sexualize it.

Sexualization in fandom has been prominent ever since fandom began to exist, and it's not an issue unless it starts to intermingle with one's actual perception of a character. It's fine to say that 007n7 looks hot and that you'd fuck him, but it's an issue if you make that sexual aspect his entire being.

And of course, proshipping. I really do not like proshipping due to not just outside perception but also due to personal reasons that I will not disclose. Proshipping is an issue in my eyes, as even if it's fictional and "just pixels" it's still the romanticization of immoral things, and these things can also effect reality whether you like it or not.

I don't want to go on a whole rant about proshipping, but it's safe to say that every single fandom that you can think of has proshipping or just proshippers in it, and the Forsaken fandom as a whole do not support proshipping and you can even get banned in the discord and game for proshipping.

Also, have you ever heard of 007e7, as in the real person? You've likely heard that he left roblox due to a certain incident. So what happened? An adult proshipper made proship art of 007e7 and an actual minor and posted it in 007e7's discord server, which in turn made 007e7 leave the roblox community entirely. The Forsaken devs are supporting 007e7 and the victim due to this from what I've heard.

Something I know that's going on in the Forsaken fandom in a very specific part of it are a group of people trying to make the spawn cult a real thing, which is incredibly bad. There's a whole video going off of it if you're interested as I'm getting tired writing this. The Forsaken devs as well as the fandom absolutely do not support this, and you can get banned in both the discord and the game.

I presume as to why this is going on is due to Forsaken's large collection of neurodivergent, impressionable, and mentally unwell and unstable people. And I'm saying this as one myself. People like these often latch onto certain aspects of something they like and turn it into delusion.

I once did this with an older friend I once idolized and it was bad, but I eventually stopped interacting with them due to something they did. While my situation wasn't extreme, it was still pretty bad.

I feel sympathy to the people who are stuck in the spawn cult group, as it is incredibly toxic.

Now, for the Forsaken fans who confuse characters like c00lkidd, 007n7, or Shedletsky for their Forsaken counterparts. This is a smaller yet still prominent thing that's going on with some Forsaken fans, but it is slowly dying down.

This is when some people mistake characters outside of Forsaken like c00lkidd as a child. And this is also a similar issue to a general fandom issue, which is some people not just in the Forsaken fandom but also in other fandoms applying their own headcanons to characters or mistaking their own headcanons for canon. One of my examples are people saying that the Forsaken 1x1x1x1 is Shedletsky's child, when in reality 1x1x1x1 is the manifestation of Shedletsky's hatred, making their ship a mirrorship and not incest.

If you see a Forsaken fan who confuses a character like c00lkidd to be a child outside of Forsaken, such as hacker c00lkidd/007n7 or TR:UD c00lkidd, let them know that only the Forsaken c00lkidd is a child and that many of the versions of c00lkidd that are popular aren't. Forsaken c00lkidd and 007n7 as well as all the other roblox characters that aren't original are all just interpretations of them.

This is all why I believe research, both in-fandom lore research and outside general research is an incredibly good thing. I'm big for research and lore, as it both gives me more knowledge but also more content of them (and yaoi,) but not everyone does research and that can be a big problem. If you see anyone make mistakes like these for the love of god EDUCATE THEM INSTEAD OF HARASSING THEM.

Harassment does no good, it does not inform, it only drives them away and does the opposite of what you want them to do. If you harass a Forsaken fan for not knowing where Elliot was from, educate them and tell them that he came from Work At A Pizza Place. Do not call them newgen either.

I've been playing roblox since I was a tiny child, I was a WAAPP, NDS, and Normal Elevator diehard, but I didn't know who Elliot was, I didn't know who Stickmasterluke was or Shedletsky was.

I eventually found out who the main popular admins were over time, yet they were only a mere fraction of my memory as they weren't important to me. Hell, I've played Block Tales but cannot remember Shedletsky being in it. I cannot tell you how I found out about them since it was a gradual thing and I literally cannot remember when I discovered them. All I know is that I was and still am a big Stickmasterluke fan.

I didn't know who all the admins, hackers, myths, and mascots were the day I first touched roblox, I learned about them over time. I first discovered the Blox Watch through a speedpaint video, I remember hearing about c00lkidd a long time ago, I remember hearing about Guest 666, and that's all I remember.

Forsaken is what properly introduced me to them, and because of Forsaken I started researching on old roblox content.

Get a grip.

[sttmh]

Hi there! So i just found this blog and wanted to read it all, but i never heard of anything called sttmh and have some questions(btw you could add faq in your masterpost so you won't need to answer to this kind of questions in future, but that's just a suggestion)

1 what is sttmh, how does it work and did you made it or is that something made long time ago?

2 is this an au or alternative mv, or at, or have you not clasified it yet?

3 how to call you, what are your pronouns, are you +18 or a minor?(you don't have to answer if you don't want to)

4 I saw you rebloged some stuff at start of the blog, is it your second acount? If yes what is it about, why did you make this acount ect.

5 how does this archive thing work

6 how does it all started and why did you decided to make this blog

7 when did this blog started or when was the first post about sttmh and from who was it(i supose it's you but just to be sure)

8 what kind of creator are you? Are you an artist, a writer or do you think of yourself just as a person with too much time? How do you classify yourself?

9 I saw there is some art in blog, but i thought it's better to ask, is this art yours or do you reblog other people's art, or meaby someone makes it for you

10 is it partly an error ask blog?

11 do you ship any sanses and are there any ships in sttmh

12 where should i start? Does this blog have all the info or should i first look up what sttmh is?

Thank you in advance, i wish i can explore another beautiful blog as soon as posible and remember to never stop doing something that gives you and others joy, that's all from me, I wish you all the best ^^

Oh! A Q&A post is a wonderful idea! I'll make sure to make one after I answer these (I will likely just copy and paste, though XD).

STTMH is short for Sans Tumbles Through the Multiverse Headfirst, a story I've been working on for a little under a year and a half, now. This blog is the platform I use to talk with my readers, answer questions, write drabbles, share fanart, and this blog is a place where readers can interact with Error in my story (sort of like the format of the original Ask Error blog).

This is an alternate multiverse.

My name is Papil or Butter, I use she/her (though I don't really care which pronouns you guys use), and I am an adult.

I originally posted things about STTMH on my personal blog, but I decided to separate my STTMH blog from my personal one, as I did not want any of my browsing preferences to affect others' experiences of the story. -> I.e., I am someone who prefers to customize my feed, and will use blocking tags and accounts if I don't want to see their posts (this is nothing reflecting on the person running the blog). My personal blog is one where I mainly post Undertale reblogs, and sometimes I will include little rambles that can vary anywhere from writing to something my cat did.

If you are referring to the masterposts, they are my attempt to organize the quickly increasing number of posts relating to the project. I'm trying to make they easy to browse as well as search for (though they are more of a work in progress).

STTMH started on a whim over the Christmas holiday while I was in the middle of nowhere. I was sitting on the couch, watching TV, laptop on my lap, and thought to myself: "... I wish there were more Classic stories." And the rest is history.

I started this blog, I believe, on Jan. 8th of this year, though the first post about STTMH was on Jan. 8th of 2024, when I posted the link to the second chapter of the story.

I consider myself a writer, though I occasionally like to doodle.

Both! If the art is not mine, I always include credits with links wherever possible! -> These are usually reblogs of or asks with fanart.

Yes, this blog is partly a place where readers can send asks to Error, similar to the original Ask Error blog.

I don't have any preferences on ships, and there are no ships in STTMH, at least as of right now. Romance is not a focus of the story, so any possible romance I may leave to after the main story or drabbles. Anyone can ship any characters in my story, however! I don't mind. ^^

I'd recommend catching up on the main story on AO3 first. Otherwise, drabbles and asks can be read in practically any order!

[deancasforcutie]

#did not have Cas as a queer icon and destiel openly acknowledge on the CE podcast on my bingo card but I really should not be surprised #because things are slowly changing wrt PR and i have noted that before now #but anyway this is where we are and this would not be done several years ago and part of the reason for the change is CMP taking over spn #even if wbd owns the IP #not much here Misha hasn't explained before but some people still don't get it so it's good he's speaking again and on a CE thing #the map Misha draws of the evolution of Destiel and how it was treated on the show #not intentional at first then the writers started leaning in but everyone thought there was that line that couldn't be crossed #but then the line got crossed finally and possibly the confession only got greenlit because the show was ending #also everyone who thinks Misha is lying about Jensen being a participator can miss me #these are the choices: Misha is a liar or Jensen wasn't against it he was just mindful of how they couldn't cross the line #and Jensen didn't want to mislead fans i suspect that's why he set boundaries #but i more and more believe Jensen was never against it (except initial wariness when he didn't know what it was) #thought it was like a certain other ship that shall not be named & is not the same context--but was his earliest experience w/ spn ships #Misha Collins #Destiel #Castiel #also going to tag this #heller Jensen #also it is going to put flames on the side of my face if Jensen stans start playing 'how dare Misha speak over Jensen' TRY TO KEEP UP #are people willfully pretending it's not clear Jensen and Misha have talked this through extensively they have told us they do #and Misha is the mouthpiece for it more and Jensen hangs back #so don't try to tell me Misha is violating Jensen oh noes this is OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THEY DISCUSSED THOROUGHLY #so crucifying Misha for being the mouthpiece is wild (via @dotthings)

Adam Malin: So many things to say about Castiel. First of all, he’s become a queer icon. Which is incredible and sort of inspiring. Do you ever reflect on that and see how that changed the world right there? Misha: We had- You know, there was this, sort of, fan- speaking of the fan/artist interplay. Early on the fans started writing slash about Castiel and Dean. That they had some romantic, you know, connection. That was not something that I, or Jensen, or, as far as I know, the writers were thinking about at inception. It was not part of our conscious artistic creation at the outset. But over time, after fans started creating all of this slash fiction and online chatter, the writers started to write to it a little bit. Like with a little bit of a teasing wink and a nod.  Sort of playing with that dynamic just a little bit. But almost like as a way to acknowledge that we’d- that they have heard what the fans were saying, but not as- not really strongly pushing that agenda. And I think sometimes consciously, sometimes unconsciously Jensen and I also played to that a little bit. But with a sport of tacit understanding, that that was ultimately a line that would never be crossed.      And then, Bob Berens, who was writer/executive producer on Supernatural came to me at the end of season 14, when we knew that season 15 was going to be our last season. And he said ‘Misha, I have an idea for the end. At the end of season 15 for Castiel to make a true declaration of romantic love for Dean. Would you be up for doing that?’ And I was like bowled over. Because I- never in a million years it has occurred to me that the studio, network or producers of the show would be brave enough to take this show, that was kind of like, you know, this macho, bro-y, dukes of hazzard meets sci-fi show and that the 3rd lead on a show and let him make what amounts to homosexual declaration of love as his swan song on the show. I was like ‘If we can do that, I think it would make this entire 12 year run that I have had on a show, feel like it had some real value and meaning.’ To be adding that- speaking of like adding the voice to the chorus, to be- have us do that with this show would feel really monumental and kind of important. And certainly important to the non binary (assuming he meant queer) fans of the show. Who I think we have quite a few, we already had quite a few of. When we got to do it and it felt like a really meaningful scene and we got to give it it’s due. Of course, you know, fans complained about it not getting enough airtime and enough processing in the aftermath of that declaration, but I was just grateful that we got to do it and was grateful that that was my goodbye to the show. It felt great. So yeah, I’m not only happy about that but I was also proud of the creatives behind the show, that they made that choice. 

Creation TV: Supernatural's Misha Collins interview #109   

[theladyragnell]

This is driving me insane. Who are the original space blorbos??? I have googled the names and searched in Tumblr and I thought at first it was just a d&d campaign or something but then you said it's from the third novel and I NEED TO KNOW

Oh gosh! Sorry to make you go down a rabbit hole!

Anything you see in my "obligatory original space blorbos" tag or see referred to by anything involving the words "space blorbos" (or anything involving the word "Karn" or "Karnisan") is me referring to a long-term original writing project! The Karn series is five novels and two novellas, and it's not published anywhere because I am a very lax editor and I really want to get this one right. So it's the first drafts of five novels and two novellas, and the second drafts of the first two novels (or, well, the second novel has three more scenes in it yet to edit, thus why I've been posting about the space blorbos so much lately, because thinking about them helps motivate me). The first drafts make up a complete series! (Even if there's a second generation series in the back of my brain. Shhhh.)

I want to publish them someday (probably going the self-publishing rather than the trad-publishing route, these are. fairly unpublishable because I don't tend to write super marketable things), but I've found it really rewarding to be able to edit the earlier books as I learn more things about the characters and know more about the series arc I want to do, so none of the books are going anywhere public for a while so I don't edit myself into a corner.

Which is unfortunate, because I really want to share them! But also I've read too many trad pubbed series over the years where it's clear the author wrote the first book or two with a different plan in mind and then had some ideas and consequently fucked their series over a bit with later books not meshing with what they'd been building up to, so I am very determined not to cause myself that problem.

But, preludes aside, the House of Karn series is what I affectionately pitch as Succession meets Bridgerton in space! It's structured like a romance series, each book or novella built around a different couple (or poly ship in one case) and each book with its own coherent plot that wraps up at the end of the book, with a background series arc about successions and coalitions and familial abuse and terraforming and all that good shit.

I made a comic sans series primer sometime back with @sovinly's help, I should really brush that up and post it sometime.

[incredipuppy]

I just think they would have such an interesting dynamic

[michelle-jacksons-art-blog]

Maybe should've tried harder for that scholarship

[boobilby]

Being even more cringe than usual

Featuring my friends drawing of Joel, who I’m pretty sure they don’t even know, @dustystripe is the friend

[chaellooo]

Uhh I'm still not over the fact that Garmadon was possibly naked in the preeminent bcs Lloyd wore his robe

[iamespecter]

I ONLY MISS YOU WHEN I'M BREATHING🫁💨‼️‼️ WITHOUT YOUR LOVE 👩‍❤️‍👨🥰💞 I DON'T KNOW HOW I'LL SURVIVE ‼️💀⚰️ IT'S YOU 🫵 IT'S YOU 🫵 THAT'S KEEPING ME ALIVE 😀💥😳🥺💯🔥

This is actually the VERY first scenario I came up with when the idea of the Lifeline AU came to me. The idea of them both having to rely on one another to continue living is just so 💔💔 AUGH

Lifeline AU Showtime save me..... save me.... save me Lifeline AU Showtime...... RAAAAAAAAAAA

[hannigramislife]

I'll say "Fuck you, Dazai" any day of the fucking week, unprompted, with no context needed. So yeah, fuck you, Dazai.

However, and I can't believe I'm about to say this shit, Dazai may have had a tinyyy little point. Urgh, no, I hate that. Let's see–

I understand, for once, where he was coming from.

Dazai did not necessarily need them to get along, that wasn't his goal. Dazai's goal was a team that could fight against Fyodor. That's literally what he says, himself. He's also potentially looking for it to happen as soon as possible.

And as sskk show in season 3 Cannibalism arc, they know exactly how to work together, how the other thinks, how they will attack, because "How many times do you think we've tried to kill each other?"

Dazai deliberately goaded Akutagawa to attack Atsushi, because he was playing the long game. Pitting them against each other stripped away all the barriers that come with getting to know somebody. It was strategic, and it was a gamble, but it worked.

Shin Soukoku as a team was born.

Whatever the fuck is happening in the manga lately?? That's not Dazai's doing. Dazai has nothing to do with their actions towards each other. He didn't create that (though he may have encouraged it a very tiny bit).

That's just Akutagawa and Atsushi shining through as people and healing together because, as you guys said, they're fated and meant to be. That's why I think they should have a different ship name other than sskk.

Tbh I don't like the whole "Oh but Dazai gave Akutagawa the life meaning he asked for by showing him Atsushi" Because

One: I think that they were fated to meet in every universe idependent of Dazai's interference since they are literally, in every meaning of phrase, the ying and the yang

and Two: Dazai being the bridge to them meeting is exactly the reason why they couldn't just be friends

Both in Beast and in the main universe, when Atsushi and Akutagawa meet each other, both are always mesmerized by each other and interested in futher knowing each other until Akutagawa discovers that Atsushi related to Dazai. He's not bridge between them at all, he's more of the construction site between them delaying their arrival, if that even makes sense.

So it really makes me angry that people try to justify Dazai's actions with that excuse when there was literally no way of knowing about Atsushi when he left the mafia unless he's a literal prophet

[leo-artista]

Found this sketch in my drafts that I think is kinda cute

[vveltergeist]

This is their dynamic in a nutshell to me

[what-am-i-doing-in-this-fandom]

Obligatory ONE TIME fanart for a show I watched to take a break from rewatching Gravity Falls 🙏

[lave-ium]

i <3 u not