#that voted no or that was even like neutral

[vierypotato]

I agree with the sentiment and the desired outcome. However, at the risk of calling voting less effective than firebombing a walmart and then not firebombing a walmart:

Given that many purchases like food or gas have to be made at one point or another, why is it not an issue that a one day boycott would simply shift the spending to the days around Feb 28 and be net neutral for the corps?

The weeklong amazon blackout does actually seem useful since there are local solutions to many purchases, but the issue of stocking up the week before (or waiting a week), shifting the spending rather than eliminating it, remains for items which are not available locally.

The assertion that consumer spending day to day is meaningful to corporations is not well evidenced. Boycotts of commodities are famously ineffective due to this kind of shifting. Without direct action accompanying the boycott, or a boycott long enough to affect quarterly earnings, corporations have no reason to acknowledge it. At worst this risks substituting meaningful action for something less effective.

At the very least, most americans can easily participate, but even at 100% compliance I don’t see the one-day blackout having any effect.

USA people! Buy NOTHING Feb 28 2025. Not anything. 24 hours. No spending. Buy the day before or after but nothing. NOTHING. February 28 2025. Not gas. Not milk. Not something on a gaming app. Not a penny spent. (Only option in a crisis is local small mom and pop. Nothing. Else.) Promise me. Commit. 1 day. 1 day to scare the shit out of them that they don't get to follow the bullshit executive orders. They don't get to be cowards. If they do, it costs. It costs.

Then, if you can join me for Phase 2. March 7 2025 thtough March 14 2025? No Amazon. None. 1 week. No orders. Not a single item. Not one ebook. Nothing. 1 week. Just 1.

If you live outside the USA boycott US products on February 28 2025 and stand in solidarity with us and also join us for the week of no Amazon.

Are you with me?

Spread the word.

[rhythmic-idealist]

Inspired by @crimeronan - female characters poll, but ~morally dubious~ and/or ~bitchy~ edition

…..I feel like these are still pretty vanilla choices. and then Aranea Fucking Serket. ajshdhdbfjhfnhf

Kitkat making fun of me as I bemoan how bad I am at liking bitches

Tallys you’ve never done anything wrong in your fucking life and I am saying that with my CHEST

Yes both halves of Cinta/Vel (Andor) are on here. I can’t tell who gets more fandom hate

Rika didn’t make the list because she’s literally eleven years old. ……I say, putting Nanami on the list. No but. Does Rika even have haters.

But unfortunately I may have set up a Maki sweep

[stuffedsand]

Hi milgramblr questions guy is back

(try not to pick none, for my data's sake. None is there cuz t2s verdicts are more agreed on than t1 was)

There will be a second poll look out for that

EDIT: feel free to rb with reasonings!! I love seeing those

[taffywabbit]

Thank you for spreading that thing about voting. The rhetoric I've been seeing from a lot of the left, at least on here, has mirrored 2016 really closely and it's getting me extremely nervous.

yeah considering how many self-destructive doomer-y "it's not even worth voting, nothing but DIRECT ACTION can save us now" posts i've seen cross my dash over the past couple years i figured it was probably smart for me to spread it when i saw it going around again. i'm not american myself, but i have a lot of loved ones down there who really especially cannot afford a republican win this year, and i'll do whatever little i can to help them stay safe-ish. (not to mention i DO still share a land border with the US, and a vicious autocrat god-emperor would probably not be a great next-door neighbor for me either)

[arizonaconservativegal]

DC Draino's comments are, as usual, unnecessarily dramatic. Yes, Hobbs vetoed the referenced bill and I think she's generally overly fond of that veto stamp but this particular bill wasn't great.

SB/HB2703 would basically have done three things:

Required schools to be available as voting locations - I'm neutral on that; Hobbs cited it as a reason to veto, supposedly over concerns of interrupting the learning environment, which I'd say is nonsense because schools I went to were used as poll locations and none of us even noticed when it was happening but whatever.

Required voters to show their ID when dropping off a 'late-early' ballot at the polls, which would eliminate the need for lengthy processing and signature verification that slows down vote counting here - This bit gets a little complicated so I want to preface by saying I may be misreading some of the details but it looks to me like in some areas the option to default to standard slow processing for those late-earlies would not allowed and voters would only be allowed to return their mail-in ballot to a voting location in the last four days of the election if they present their ID. If voters were given the option and encouraged to show their ID so we can speed things up, I'd be all for it but I do want a back-up option. Katie's veto letter doesn't appear to indicate a problem with this point though.

Required early voters to verify their address in order to receive a mail ballot prior to each election - I'm actually with Hobbs on this one, it sucks. I see what the legislature is trying to do but this bill does not accomplish that well at all. Would effectively defeat the concept of an Active Early Voter List and frankly, cause more confusion and problems than it's worth. Either have the balls to get rid of the AEVL and say that's what you're doing or accept the responsibility to clean the damn voter rolls.

I will also link to this post if anyone's reading that second point and has no idea what I'm talking about.

I probably would have vetoed this one too. Well, I wouldn't have signed it in this form, at least. I do think a governor who was less hostile to the legislature could have gotten that second point resolved before it reached her desk (not that Katie apparently cared) and probably could have persuaded the legislature to separate out that third one for individual consideration. But Katie doesn't play well with the opposition so she just vetoes everything.

[buddiebitch]

opinions on Tommy

sorry i just like posting polls

[here-there-were-dragons]

i'm seeing three times as many people bitching in the tag about the very idea that someone might not like this breed than i see people actually expressing unambiguous dislike for this breed

[jupiterswasphouse]

Unless the third mob ends up being an insect or arachnid I'm super excited for, if the crab loses the Minecraft mob vote I will sob and cry

[skrunksthatwunk]

no this is not an important topic BUT im curious. note: i forgot to put a "i literally don't care i just do whatever" option but. pick im bald for that i guess

[poppyseed799]

Be honest, polls are anonymous after all

[ourceliumnetwork]

huh... the way my parents showed me the world worked was really kind of fucked up, it's no fucking wonder i have an anxiety disorder frankly.

[confinesofmy]

how you gonna vote your way out of something you didn't even vote your way into...

[jackass-jones]

My ass was trying so hard not to jump up and down with glee playing yttd with my sister and getting to the shin reveal I was like MY GUY MY FUNNY LAD MY SILLY RABBIT

[stuffedsand]

There's something interesting to be said about the opinions of different fanbases based on culture and how it affects the votes but it's late and I can't write it out too much so only one example for today: amane

Down under the cut so if it gets too long it won't affect anyone's scrollin

Also warning the tags are long on this one

- <- this indicates a new talking point

Basically I think the jp/more asian parts of the fandom tend to lean towards greater good (amane guilty to protect shidou/mahiru/fuuta because if shidous incapacitated in any way someone's dying, mahiru is prone to dying any moment, fuuta is prone to cult mindset rn). Despite my non japanese speaking ass not being able to gather direct evidence for this, I use those surrounding me (asian in asian country) as evidence; namely, how they're mostly amane guilty voters

-Now I'm not saying my personal take but the reason given for guilting her is well. As much as it will cause her more woe it's one way of guaranteeing the safety of the prison. Shidou is the only medical professional after all, and she's "completely hostile" towards him, acc to jackalope. And she doesn't need to overpower him; shes smart, and could sabotage his equipment or just like. Go for his hands to incapacitate him. I doubt he'd fight back.

-Alternatively, it's because it would cause her to fall back on believing she's right. Telling her she's forgiven with how she's acting would cause her to believe her persistance and dedication to this (harmful) mindset is what got her forgiven in the first place

-Meanwhile more western? English fanbase ig I'm not too sure of demographic, but the English speaking side tends to focus on how it affects her. Because of the belief that another guilty verdict will cause more harm to her, an innocent verdict is the obvious solution. What I've seen is the greater focus on what caused the murder over the murder itself and the effects of an innocent verdict on others and then her beliefs. A focus on the past over what she's promised to do in the present and future perhaps. Idk.

-Another reason for the difference could. Possibly be how punishment is viewed? Western countries have much more stigma over any form of punishment but in Asian countries it's normal. Now while I'd say physical punishment isn't the way to go, the refusal of punishment shouldn't be rewarded (imo) but that's all I'll say on it.

-The English fanbase also focuses a lot on how young amane is and how her circumstances were terrible and all that. Those around me tend to focus more on her thoughts around the crime, what she believes the crime was for and how in the right she thinks she is. This may also be the cause of the moral grandstanding I see so often (ie. If you vote amane guilty you're a baaad person) (I don't agree with this btw. That's stupid this is fiction don't insult others over an opinion)

What I will say is the English speaking side is more sympathetic towards amane. They (y'all?) Take her situation into a lot of consideration, and focus on her age as a large factor. Whereas those around me and I assume might be close to the views of the japanese fanbase are more objective, looking at what harm she could cause and what's the greater of the two evils, as well as what she's going to do with the verdict (ie. Use the inno verdict as her doctrines are correct and very right).

There's slight thought given to her age and circumstance of course, by it that's not the main concern rn. Given the current situation, most of my milgram voting friends stay certain that an innocent verdict will not end well, hence the guilty vote. I mean I have a couple friends that feel bad for guiltying her because of her circumstance, but do it anyway cuz it's for the better. My opinion is that she should've been innocent trial one, since we wouldn't have known the concequences, but it's too late now and an innocent will cause more harm overall

tldr asian fanbase from experience focus on the crime itself + what they're gonna do with that experience whereas eng speaking fanbase focus on the circumstances surrounding the crime and on judging only the crime

In myyy opinion. Judging only the crime based on your interpretation isn't how the system should be working, it should take into consideration the prisoners' attitudes and how the prisoner perceives the crime as well.

I hope this was coherent I typed it out at 11pm and went to bed immediately after and I've barely edited anything cuz awake me is less coherent than half asleep me

Also hope this was an interesting post? This topic is interesting to me but I explain better in speaking over typing so it's probably hard to read but I hope this topic scritches y'all's brains like it does mine :)

[bmpmp3]

a bit of a mild milgram fan (i adore the music and music videos but i still havent checked out a lot of the dramas but i still vote because i like being involved LOL) and i feel like giving my unsolicited opinions on season 2 so far. even though it makes perfect sense based off what i see from the fanbase that Futa was voted innocent BUT as someone who was largely neutral but uninterested (aside from his awesome song) in his character in season 1, season 2 made me actually really REALLY like him but in particular way where i want to see that little twerp squirm so im SO sad no one else voted him guilty q-q i WANTED to see him suffer for the NARRATIVE

also I think Mu should be voted innocent because she slays