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No one does it better than the Birds of Prey!
Batman: The Brave and the Bold season 2 episode 17: The Mask of Matches Malone!
#joy.gif#dc#dc comics#batman#batman the brave and the bold#batman dc#bruce wayne#birds of prey#catwoman#selina kyle#black canary#dinah lance#huntress#helena bertinelli#dcedit#gifset#gif#btbatb#realized a wee bit too late that the text is probably too small but wtv
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#her main recruitment method#text meme#shitpost#karababs#helbabs#dinahbabs#dc#kara zor el#oracle#huntress#black canary#helena bertinelli#dinah lance#barbara gordon#bop 1999
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The Huntress
#dc huntress#huntress#helena bertinelli#Featuring: mini Helena#dc fanart#dc comics#doodles#id in alt text#If I think too long about her I will start crying#i miss her…#anyways read huntress 1989
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the one (1) valid bat in batman/huntress: cry for blood.
(also this happens way before bruce wayne: murderer?/fugitive and now I'm just picturing bruce remembering tim kept insisting helena had to be innocent!!! -she would never be this sloppy omg- while he doubts BRUCE'S innocence even juuuuuust a little bit and I'm a ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING ÑALDKSJFASDF)
#no actual hate to dick‚ barbara‚ or bruce they did their parts!!#i'm just saying if more of helena's arrows had found their way into non-lethal places i'd support her#and also tim is doint great here xD#talking to the void#my thoughts#dc#dc thoughts#dc comics#batman/huntress: cry for blood#helena bertinelli#tim drake#id in alt text#captioned
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this is the batfam to me
#“where is jason/damian” dc ended in 2004 for me. have a nice day#cherryblogs#dc#comics#batman#batfam#stephanie brown#cassandra cain#tim drake#helena bertinelli#barbara gordon#dick grayson#nightwing#robin#batgirl#spoiler#red robin#huntress#oracle#text posts#memes
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being raised as a daughter means you will always be hungry. hungry for love, for safety, for justice for the childhood you lost.
#my edits#huntress dc#helena bertinelli#web weaving#sort of#an edit for a friend#even if it's not so good!#I enjoyed making it#don't ask where the text in the actual post came from or what it means i don't knooow and i wrote it#unsure if it fits hel but. i felt it in my soul#anyways gonna sleep now
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thinking about how helena and dick kind of mirror each other. they're a similar age, their families were killed tragically before their eyes–spurring on their life long quests for justice, they both can be very determined. the key difference between them is that dick operated as a vigilante with a pretty extensive support system from a young age while helena's is more limited requiring her more so to forge her own path.
i think the nightwing/huntress comic discusses this pretty well in regards to their respective relationships with the bat family. there's a sort of bat family in-group that dick is a part of and helena is not. that's probably because helena has had to find her way as a vigilante without the guidance of batman. so the conclusions she comes to about what must be done can be pretty different in a way that can create a rift between her and them.
the affects of the disparity in the level of support each of them has can also be seen with their respective relationships with teams. dick has the opportunity to create a team with his peers and so together they form the teen titans. meanwhile, helena ends up being manipulated multiple times into joining teams. the community dick has allows him to help create a team on his own, while helena's isolation leaves her more susceptible to being manipulated. helena is able to build more of a support system later on in her vigilante career with the birds of prey but ultimately their paths deeply shaped them both.
#i don't even know if this is coherent but it helped me calm down from a stressful situation.#helena bertinelli#dick grayson#this is a bit more helena focused but the comparison is still relevant to dick :P#helena's mafia background and the influence it had bruce's perspective on her is something i might also explore a little in a reblog of thi#also another similarity between them is that tim is their little brother :)#dc#my text#also i feel like there's more to explore with the actual affect this has on their relationship
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I knew Helena became Batgirl but no one ever told me she tried to gaslight Gotham into believing that she was actually Batman all along
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the lack of babs/helena on this earth is so heartbreaking. who is going to do something about that?
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Here it is... Somehow... Only came up with the hook on the drive home from work today so it's probably... *checks notes* right, not good, but hey... It exists and I have to clean tomorrow so I'll just dwell on it when I'm moving all of my books to dust under.
In this week's episode, Tim is mad at everyone, but mostly himself (naturally). Music is equally likely to put you to sleep as it is to wake you up... And Tim is having deja vu...in more ways than the usual brain tinnitus.
Also, I still don't know how normal people text.
Enjoy. Or don't. I'm not in charge of your happiness.
#ao3 batfam fanfic#tim drake#helena bertinelli#batfamily#batfam#secrets cameos in a dream sequence#other batfam mentioned#more of my terrible music taste#references to more than one anime#i don't know how to text and at this point I'm too afraid to ask#no literally I text in full paragraphs with proper grammar and spelling...I'm a nightmare
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Happy new years!
#source: texts from last night#justice league#dc comics#justice league unlimited#dcau#jlu#incorrect quotes#incorrect dc comics#incorrect dc quotes#dc#huntress#helena bertinelli
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Birds of Prey (1999)
#text meme#birds of prey#oracle dc#zinda blake#lady blackhawk#bop#shitpost#oracle#huntress#black canary#barbara gordon#dinah lance#helena bertinelli#bop 1999
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More doodles of her (because I need to figure out how to draw her consistently)
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august reading meme!
BOOKS
Burning Your Boats by Angela Carter. I got through this collection of short stories slowly but surely, and it cemented Angela Carter as one of my favourite authors. The Bloody Chamber will always have a special place in my heart, but each collection had stories that made my imagination run wild and enthralled me with their prose. Some of my favourites were "The Loves of Lady Purple," "Impressions: The Wrightsman Magdalene," or "The Scarlet House."
Olvidado Rey Gudú by Ana María Matute. This is my ASOIAF. What a long, meaty, enchanting tale, seriously. This book is the magnus opus of one of my favourite Spanish authors, and tells the story of the Kingdom of Olar from its birth to its end, over five tumultuous generations. It mixes the grounded medieval setting and outlandish fantastical elements in a very fluid prose, and following the tragic tale of woe in its pages over the last couple of months was a delight.
COMICS
The Cheshire Contract (Action Comics #613-618). I wanted to read the story of Lian going to live with Roy, for Reasons. It's good and fun and short (it occupies a small part of a larger issue, 8 pages each), so if it interests you, go for it.
Batman & Spiderman. This is part of a bunch of crossovers I haven't read, and don't plan to for now, so I was mixing some context, but I read it because Talia was there lol. I don't think DC and Marvel mix well, most of the time, but this little one-shot makes it work.
Jason Todd: Rebirth (2016-2020ish). It... had its moments. Waaaaay too much Lobdell, just as the New 52, but now that I've started the next phase to fall face-first into Cheer, of all arcs... yeah, neither is good lol. But one thing that really appealed to me was the dynamic between Jason and Bizarro; hence the cover. The other highlight was the (tragically few) interactions between Jason and Duke, especially in New Talent Showcase 2017. Give me mooooore, DC!! Other than that... well, there were many things that annoyed the hell out of me (Black Mask's writing, Bruce's EVERYTHING), but let's not get into it lol.
Green Arrow (2001). What a run. I've loved it from beginning to end, really (though a bit through the middle the art horrified me xD). It turned Mia into one of my favourite characters (and in reread, elevated a rareship into an OTP, because it really works for her character :P), which is not rare given that this is clearly where here best arcs are :D. Connor didn't have enough to do, tragically, but he's a great character and I look forward to read more about him; about Dinah&Ollie as well.
Batman: Bane of the Demon. Hi yeah just mentioning this arc to tell you guys about how Ra's apparently keeps cameras in Talia's bedroom :))) he might've been watching as she hooked up with Bane (who he unceremoneously decides she must marry to advance his plans). Let's all kill Ra's.
Batman: Death and the Maidens. A Rucka story, so you know it's good (though not particularly good to Talia lbr... I'm not bothered by *what* happens, I just wish we'd seen more of her perspective, during and especially after -though that's not a mmater of *this* run of course). Bruce's dream journey/possible visions of his parents's ghost were a highlight. Do recommend.
Truth & Justice: Hunted by the Past (#4). Way better than similar "Jason fears becoming the Joker!!!" stories, though that interpretation of the character is never going to be one I agree with. I liked seeing him with the helmet again, and the art is fun. The story gave Jason yet another pre-Robin childhood friend (this one got killed
Green Lantern/Green Arrow: Hard Travelling Heroes. A fascinating read, especially taking it in its context and comparing it to how timid DC is about politics in current comics, IMO. This run was messy and didn't always seem to know what it was doing, and some of what it included or argued feels wrong from a modern perspective, but it dared to take risks and that's always appreciated on my part. My favourite story was the one introducing John Stewart; both for John himself, of course, but also because it was unafraid to write Hal as someone that despite good intentions and despite being a ~heroic character, had racist biases he needed to face and overcome.
Kingdom Come. This is one of those ~iconic comics that feels like a must-read; it's meaty and it raises questions and it's a run you could really sink your teeth into. And I didn't like it at all LOL. It's so... nostalgic and regressive and downright reactionary. Its fluffy epilogue does it no favours, too (other than prompting this post of mine, ig).
No Man's Land. I finally read the whole thing!!!!!! It took me SIX MONTHS!!!!!!!! And speaking of reactionary beliefs añdslfkjasf. But I did like it and enjoyed it far more than Kingdom Come, tbf (except Dixon's issues omg whyyyyy is he everywheeeeere he's so boriiiiiing). Helena Bertinelli is the uncontested star of this event AFAIC, and I won't hear otherwise. Well, Leslie, Barbara and Cass definitely shined too. And Montoya and Essen. Aaaand Harley Quinn has her introduction. And Selina has a lot of fun stealing things and screwing with everyone!!! And Talia gets Bruce to get his head out of his ass!!! Ugh, there's so much I could say about this run. The Renee & Two-Face issue. Alfred's tale of himself as Bruce's squire. Lynx and Batman's brief team-up. The Secret Files and Origins tale about a man named Jason who thinks Gotham is speaking to him, and who thanks Barbara for her service to the city. There is a lot in this arc that I'd gladly rotate in my mind forever. But Helena is my darling and THEE best Bat(man). That is all.
#reading meme#books#dc comics#my thoughts#dc thoughts#id in alt text#captioned#angela carter#talia al ghul#jason todd#ana maría matute#the cheshire contract#mia dearden#batman: death and the maidens#green lantern/green arrow#roy harper#kingdom come#no man's land#helena bertinelli#green arrow (2001)
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Ric Grayson, or Tim 'Nightwing' Drake: a story of how Tom King's Nightwing pitch would have functioned.
You can often see the remains of discarded or overruled pitches in comics, if you look at structural decisions and compare them to pitches that you know were made.
One obvious one people might be familiar with is that Helena Bertinelli, back in 2003, was being set up to be removed from the Bat books and transferred over to what eventually became Greg Rucka's Checkmate 2006. There's a whole establishing storyline done in Gotham Knights by Scott Beatty. However, Gail Simone's pitch for Birds of Prey, which was published a mere two months after the Beatty story wrapped up, took Helena and used her to expand the Birds of Prey roster. It's a move that likely redirected Helena's character arc permanently (though the ghosts can still be seen in the choice to use Helena B as Matron in Grayson).
Equally: I hypothesise the reason we got Ric Grayson is because we got Young Justice 2019.
If you look at the storytelling, in terms of cover dates:
Dick was shot in Batman #55, in November 2018
Tynion's 'Tec run finished July 2018
Young Justice 2019 started March 2019
City of Bane started September 2019
King's pitch for Tim to take over the Nightwing mantle would probably have been a 12 issue run, to my eye; with the schedule that Nightwing had at the time, it would have been 6 issues (twice monthly) and then 6 issues (once monthly), ending the run and placing Dick back as a restored Nightwing...in issue #61, August 2019.
City of Bane kicked off the next month, being King's big 'all family-in' storytelling climax arc. It would have been the perfect place to put Nightwing, once again himself, reuniting with people. (I cannot tell how this placement would have gone should King have got his full 100 issue run; but I don't think City of Bane was significantly shifted forwards?)
Now I can't tell if the twice monthly issues dropped to monthly because Ric Grayson went down like a lead balloon with the fandom, but that would have been a very fast turn around in solicits for DC to withdraw support on a new direction (about a month). If it was expected to remain twice monthly, then I still think it would have been a 12 issue story, but might have stretched to 18 to meet plot needs over in Batman (King doesn't seem to have an issue about padding stories to get timing to line up in ways he wants them to)
King's pitch was also made at the time when Tim was still Red Robin, but clearly there was internal interest in transitioning him away from the name and into some other identity as part of the shift away from n52. Putting Tim into the Nightwing suit for 6 months to a year would have been a nice intervening step to use as the prompt to give Tim a new identity.
It's a pitch from King that just...fits in really really well. I can see how he'd have had it interact with things. Especially as King really hadn't had an opportunity to use Tim in his run yet due to the Mr Oz storyline, and he'd been pulling so many other faces through his story.
(I will also note that the 'Drake' identity and costume for Tim appears in January 2010 in Young Justice; Bendis' initial concept was clearly taking Tim back to Robin before he also tried a 'new costume' growth arc).
But instead Bendis wanted to use Young Justice to anchor the whole Wonder Comics initiative, and he wanted Tim as Robin for it because the concept was to pull in all the nostalgia for everyone for Young Justice 1998, thus having everyone in their original identities. And that whole decision probably had more lead time than your average comic, so it took priority over suggestions of moving Tim to Nightwing (because they already had plans brewing).
(And then Young Justice got fucked over with SO MUCH editorial meddling, to the point that I cannot wait until enough people have left DC that we actually get stories about exactly how bad it was, rather than just inferring it from what can be seen in the text itself)
Come back next time for when I instead explain what I think happened with the accepted pitch for Ric Grayson (and how I cannot BELIEVE this was actually an accepted pitch, given the way it was treated as a hot potato; it feels more like an editorial dictate of a concept that was passed off until Dan Jurgens came up with an idea of how to make it into an actual plot)
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Cool Helena cover from No Man's Land
#i didn't include the credit in the text part because it's in the image and i noted it in the alt text#let me know if you think i should for whatever reason!!#helena bertinelli#the bat#batgirl#dc#panels
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