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Thanks for reminding me that I'm woefully overdue for the next chapter. I'm so sorry everyone.
writing game: post the last line that you wrote and tag someone for every word in the line. (The rules will *not* be followed)
So the next chapter has three POVs so far and Tim's had by far the best (last) line I've written (uttered by, you guessed it, not him). He still has more POV, but it's not written so...
*Why waste the whole armory when, if planned just right, you only need one bullet?* Dick concluded. *Gawl, keep her away from Batman. He's a prep time whore.*
I'm definitely incapable of asking that many people to do this so @umbrellajam... Sorry, but tag, you're it! I'm so sorry.
#Writing game#ao3 batfam fanfic#Dizzy Edges update#Sorry but Batman is a prep time whore and we all know it!
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So... I saw another "Dick's relationship with Tim is really about Jason" mention and... I'm tired. No hate to the poster because we all interpret things differently, but that thought process really bums me out.
Tim was a pest to Dick at first, but Tim is the only sibling that Dick *chose*. Moreso than any other characters in the Batfam, Dick and Tim's relationship is *theirs*. It developed because they wanted it to (aka it happened organically in story over time). They're brothers long before Jack kicks it.
Their relationship wasn't required by the story or mandated by the plot. That's why it works. It's not forced.
It's also probably why I prefer it to others, honestly. It's so very clear that some of the other relationships are at least partly pandering to some gimmick. Golden son vs failure (this is mostly fanon as they don't actually do much on panel... But it's still seemingly the basis of the "Dynamic Duo" movie coming out so...). History repeating itself/mentor mentee (Grant Morrison is a great writer but they care more about story/themes than consistent characterization). Or just non-existent (sorry Duke... Who isn't actually a brother to Dick but...). Cass and Dick's dynamic is actually pretty interesting too. Both naturally talented and naturally distrustful (90s/00s Batfam dynamics really work for me okay).
So, where does that leave me? With the resignation that I still don't believe Tim will play much of a role in the Gunniverse... And if he is there, he probably won't get comic-accurate relationships because an organic (non-gimmick) relationship wouldn't "appeal" to mass audiences. Everything needs to be shorthand it seems. If Tim shows up at all I'll be genuinely shocked. I know Gunn said the Batfam would already be established, but he's definitely going to have to cut things down for expediency if he's *starting* with Damian. So, my guess is Dick, Jason (dead), Babs, and maybe Cass. Damian and Alfred are a given.
I enjoy Gunn's work, but I also kinda don't think he'd know how to write Tim accurately anyway. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think he's written a character that would be a good comparison to Tim. Not a perfect one to one, but I might need to see how he writes Jimmy... A different flavor of Fanboy and definitely more wacky, but...
Wow, this got off topic.
In conclusion, Dick and Tim are my favorite pair of DC brothers. Iconic without the need for a gimmick.
#Not tagging this with anything of value#I don't think that would be fair or kind just because I disagree with someone's meta#We're all allowed to play in the sandbox how we want#I'm no more right than anyone else in my interpretations#And it also doesn't matter and their analysis is fine honestly#I just needed to rant and the walls of my apartment have heard this one before#JojoSquires rants#I'll probably delete this later anyway... Sorry
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I hate the “bad sibling Dick Grayson” tag, like Dick Grayson would never. Especially in Tim centric fics. They have such a close bond in canon, Tim Drake is Dick Grayson’s #1 fan and Dick raves about Tim like every other issue in Nightwing (1996)
#Yeah that tag is an immediate: “k thanks bye” from me#Dick Grayson is far from perfect#And he isn't even super close to every one of his “siblings”#But he's not a “bad” brother#Especially not to Tim#Even when they don't see eye to eye or are arguing#Dick would never actively be a bad brother#Dick and Tim: the brothers ever
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Sorry this took so long...
In this week's episode: the Robins all get the spotlight for a bit and there's a flashback. Was it planned? Did I throw it together and hope it made sense? Who can say?
Read or don't. I don't expect anything of anyone. Other than you choosing to be kind to yourself.
See you in the next one.
#Reblog for people who have actual lives on Friday nights (read: not me)#Maybe start your Saturday with the Robins#Or later Saturday depending on your time zone#Or Sunday if the international date line is involved
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I just pulled an all-nighter reading your amazing work, how long until the next chapter is up??
Thanks for reading...
And...right...about...now!
Enjoy.
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Sorry this took so long...
In this week's episode: the Robins all get the spotlight for a bit and there's a flashback. Was it planned? Did I throw it together and hope it made sense? Who can say?
Read or don't. I don't expect anything of anyone. Other than you choosing to be kind to yourself.
See you in the next one.
#ao3 batfam fanfic#batfam#tim drake#jason todd#dick grayson#damian wayne#batfamily#Jason punches somone#Three guesses and the first two don't count#Damian being sneaky and he's got a leaky memory too..
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So... I'm kinda tired (like of everything, but) of it being "controversial" to prefer Dick as Nightwing and not want him to be Batman long-term.
Heck, I only enjoy it when I know he's going back to blue at some point (and when he knows it too). Otherwise...I just feel bad that Dick doesn't get to be the master of his life.
And... This might get me in actual trouble. I *really* don't care for (read: am not impressed by) the "cheery vs dark" dynamic swap when he's Batman and Damian is Robin. I get the appeal sure, but sometimes people act like it's the greatest switcheroo in Batman comic history and... Like... It's just a pallet swap? And Dick doesn't act all that much like Dick when Morrison is writing him anyway? So... Maybe I'm just stupid since I just don't get why everyone loves it so much.
Dick and Damian are not my favorite dynamic (clearly), but I *do* think they're good. They have a whole different mentor/mentee dynamic than other Batkids share. They don't need to be "the best" Batman and Robin duo to be special. They have a profound effect on each other regardless. Their relationship doesn't (and shouldn't) negate other important (and frankly more interesting in my opinion) dynamics. Damian with Bruce is actually really interesting. Dick with Donna is fantastic and full of weighty history. Like... Explore people!
Everyone's allowed to like what they like, of course, but I do think your opinion becomes less solid when you can't even spell characters' names correctly... If I see one more person spell it DamiEn I'll... I don't know... Quit maybe. I don't know what I'll quit, but I'll quit it.
#JojoSquires rants#The amount of “shouldn't Nightwing just be Batman forever” stuff on Reddit makes me tired#I'm usually pretty cordial there and I'd never *choose* to argue when this literally doesn't matter but...#Can we talk about something else? Please#TMNT Reddit is just as repetitive in its posts but at least I see more variety in responses...#And better spelling#Also! To be clear I like Damian just fine... Don't hate me for just being sick of seeing that dynamic considered the pinnacle of the Batfam#I have a clear bias but I'd never imply that Dick and Damian aren't important to each other#Just less interesting to me personally#Still great just... Not what I'm looking for in sibling dynamics#Don't less this escape please... I don't need drama I'll probably delete it later anyway
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never mind about your favorite robin. who's your favorite robin's favorite robin
#It's Dick (literally no contest)#And to be controversial (and correct) the vice versa is true as well#Dick gives Tim hope and Tim gives Dick hope#He loves Damian for sure but... Tim is his guy#Tim understood the job the title the purpose better than anyone else... Besides#Dick prefers being Nightwing and Nightwing worked the most with Tim#A thousand ninjas after all
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Please someone more patient than me write a meta about Tim's utter disinterest in being the biggest/fastest/strongest, etc./his humility despite being very pedantic or cocky in other ways.
At the end of Robin 93, he also sort of jeers at Ulysses Armstrong for getting so jacked and still being shit at fighting.
Love this attitude.
#Oh yes... Another favorite#The “what incentive do I have to fight fair?” guy#I might be in the minority but I love a good “I'm a normie. How on God's green earth did I get here?”#And then they just resign themselves to being stuck in the insanity#So y'know they get to be a little blasé... a bit smug.. too snarky... Like they get that they “shouldn't be there” but... Y'know#They're not going to be too pressed about stuff they can't change. Doesn't mean they're gonna just play nice though#they're gonna mouth off and be a little underhanded. Still loveable still good... Just... Like they'll shock you#(with words or static or by lacing chocolate or sneaking into your apartment)#Or... This preference is just because I'm the least talented but most resilient of my parents' kid#Gotta hang my hate hat on something and it wasn't going to be my musical ability so... unflappable it is!
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Tim's better at this than I could ever be bc the way I would scream
#Ah yes... The classic#Tim: If anyone talks crap about Dick I'll fight them physically. I'll kick their ass!#Dick: But I'm the one who-#Tim: I said what I said#Dick: uhh?#Tim: I mean... After I beat you up I'll have to beat myself up but I'll deserve it for-#Dick: Whoa whoa whoa no one beats up my little brother and gets away with it. They'll be lucky to be breathing through a tube when I'm done#Tim: Yeah! Wait what? Um... Huh...#Dick: yeah... Maybe we shouldn't-#Tim: let's just go get enchiladas#The Dick and Tim cycle... Underrated and underutilized in the modern era!
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grocery bags: a hard-hitting investigative report
Every week I come home from grocery shopping and say two things to my wife:
"L and I were super normal and appropriate at the grocery store this week! Everybody noticed and commented on how normal and appropriate we were!" AND
"If I live one hundred thousand years, I will never understand the mind of a supermarket bagger."
The first one is self-explanatory; the second is because the baggers at our grocery store invariably pack our bags in ways that defy all logic.
...my logic, at least. But life is a rich tapestry! Maybe I'm an outlier in my preferences! Thus: a poll.
CAVEATS:
You are buying enough groceries that they won't all fit in a single bag; you must use multiple bags.
You have enough bags of the type you prefer (paper, plastic, reusable), so 'not having enough bags' is not a concern.
Bags will be packed with reasonable consideration for keeping everything functional (e.g. nobody is packing a bag of chips at the bottom of a bag of canned goods.)
#Combination situation over here#Cabinet foods in a bag cold food in a bag#Bathroom items (toilet paper and such) in a bag#But I also go for as few bags as possible with those groups in mind#So tonight it was three bags and I carried the milk separate#(paper towels and detergent and other such heavies will just be tucked under an arm)#Some weeks it's two bags if there's no bathroom items#I also shop almost exclusively with a basket and I probably look crazy#I hate grocery shopping#Fun thought experiment though
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thinking about the swathe of Tim & Dick disagreements that can be broadly patterned, "Dick is more openly distraught and ends up chewing out Tim before stalking off, while Tim's left standing there like 🧍♂️"
New Titans #61 (A Lonely Place of Dying, Part 4) Gotham Knights #26 (Bruce Wayne: Murderer? Part 10) Nightwing (1996) #110
and the sort of opposite, where Tim is more openly distraught and they end up physically fighting each other
Nightwing (1996) #139 (The Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul, Part 6) Red Robin (2009) #4
anyway no deep thoughts, I just love them and I'm rotating their arguments in my brain at all times, lol
(bonus: the direct reverse of the first category, with Tim more openly distraught with and chewing out Dick before stalking off, leaving Dick standing there like 🧍♂️)
Red Robin (2009) #1
#Nah these are the only two batkids whose relationship I believe could really exist (minus obvious comic shenanigans)#They care about each other a lot#They have fun together inside jokes clown on their “dad”#They also disagree sometimes and the only reason it gets as heated as it does is because they genuinely care#They don't *like* fighting or disagreeing with each other... They're usually on the same page#But much like any lasting relationship... The key is they never want to “stop being brothers on the same day”#Sometimes it's like 🧍♂️Sometimes it's like “what the actual hell just happened”#Sometimes it's Tim throwing a tantrum (or a punch) sometimes it's “oops I touched a nerve... What now?”#But mostly they still want to be brothers by the end of it more than they care about any disagreement#They disagree loudly... They just care and each other more#They'll get over it#The other batkids (including the one most people would argue for)... Eh no... They don't feel like real siblings#I just don't buy it#I've got two siblings and they run the gamut#Just being siblings doesn't create the kind of relationship Dick and Tim have#My bro and I have it and we don't always get along... Still would fight anyone who tried to mess with him#My sister and I... Well she was mad about me from day one and I didn't feel the need to put in effort to change things#Sorry for ranting in tags#Umbrellajam is of course correct
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In response to your tags I just wanted to say that I absolutely adore Dizzy Edges, the whole time fuckery, generally hilariousness, well written OCs, and incredible grasp on canon relations while still being a Fix-it fic of sorts makes it one of my favorite fics and I’m not even done reading yet- I’m flattered that you even found my post!
You're much too kind, but I'm very glad you're enjoying the story. It was one of those "you gotta write what you wanna read" situations. I got lucky that other people were also interested in the story I wanted to read!
I came across your post by complete accident and felt so flattered and flustered. It was cool to be referenced in the wild.
I hope you enjoy the rest of the story and I hope you and the friend you mentioned have wonderful lives!
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Tada! Sorry it's late...like date-wise and time-wise.
I'm tired.
This week: Dick and Tim have separate existential crises and no Dick doesn't spill the beans. There's actually kinda no time for that.
Enjoy your holidays if you celebrate and I'll see you in the New Year sometime.
Also, GUYS the Superman trailer. Like all they needed was that one shot of him saving the little girl, but... Yeah, I enjoyed it.
#Reblog for those of us who sleep at regular intervals#Me personally I'm an early bird... Even if I go to sleep late so#Happy reading time...I hope
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Tada! Sorry it's late...like date-wise and time-wise.
I'm tired.
This week: Dick and Tim have separate existential crises and no Dick doesn't spill the beans. There's actually kinda no time for that.
Enjoy your holidays if you celebrate and I'll see you in the New Year sometime.
Also, GUYS the Superman trailer. Like all they needed was that one shot of him saving the little girl, but... Yeah, I enjoyed it.
#ao3 batfam fanfic#batfam#dick grayson#tim drake#batfamily#bruce wayne#jason todd#helena bertinelli#cassandra cain#You guys ever read that “Happiness is...” anthology from Peanuts? Cause...yeah#Clearly an inspiration here#Also that song is my favorite from that musical#Tim Drake gives off major Linus vibes sometimes#Blunt smart runs his mouth when he shouldn't wise beyond his dumb years dumb dumb dumb but very smart at the same time and you know that ki#has some sort of 'security blanket' even if it's not an actual blanket#I'm thinking backpack or a jacket with good pockets--being prepared and all that would probably make him feel safe#If it's not clear...I'm too tired to be doing this
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WIP Game
thanks, @umbrellajam
Rules: make a new post with the names of all the files in your wip folder, regardless of how non-descriptive or ridiculous. let people send you an ask with the title that most intrigues them, and then post a little snippet or tell them something about it! and then tag as many people as you have wips.
Let's see....
-Ch. 45 (I don't name my chapters until I'm done and I keep them separate for easier loading)
-Scene development: Dick & Tim
-Scene development: Bruce & Tim (this is pretty much done... Just not the next chapter)
All of them are from Dizzy Edges so...
Since I don't feel comfortable tagging anyone yet, feel free to play if you'd like.
#WIP game-JS#Promise I'm working on the next chapter#Just trying to organize how that's gonna be structured
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*sigh*
Another day, another fundamental misunderstanding of Tim and Damian on Reddit.
As if Tim would choose Bruce over his big brother. As if Damian's loyalty to Bruce isn't a thing DC has been building up for years... I'm not saying it's an easy choice for either of them, but when lines are drawn in the sand... Both pick their #1.
Sorry if y'all disagree, but the way fanon has over-emphasized the Dick&Damian dynamic (to the detriment of the canon relationship Damian has built with his father) and completely forgotten the Tim&Dick dynamic (ewwwwww to all Jason&Tim stuff and any whumpy, uwu "Tim has nobody" stuff (and before you argue... Tim has friends in my fic... Stuff just keeps happening when they're not around!)) is very exhausting.
Play in this sandbox however you want. I reserve the right to politely disagree (and then complain about it elsewhere without revealing names).
#DC meta with JS#Sorry for the rant... Just so over the constant Batfam struggle fandom insists on#And they wonder why editorial seems to want to hit Bruce with the “stupid/crazy stick”
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