#syscourse code

[saltedcavessys]

Our syscourse code!

Syscourse code link

Question 1: Do you believe in endogenic plurality?

👎(N) - No

Question 2: Opinions on tulpas?

💚(TCA) - I think it is cultural appropriation and am against it

Question 3: Do you think endos just don't remember their trauma?

📗(MTR) - I think a lot of them don't

Question 4: Opinions on shared spaces?

🔻(ASP) - I am against it

Question 5: Do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transX?

🟠(TXM) - In some cases

Question 6: Do you think you can have DID/OSDD/UDD without trauma?

🌑(DTNO) - No

Question 7: Do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. Japanese introject using Japanese names, while in a white body)?

🟦(CNNU) - Nuanced opinion / other : If they understand they are not part of that culture and do not speak for people who are bodily part of that culture (and understand the significance of the name), they should be allowed to use the name.

Question 8: Opinion on researched self diagnosis?

🌳(SDXI) - If the person has done extensive research it's okay

Question 9: Sysmed as a term?

🌦(SMA) - Against it

Question 10: Traumascum as a term?

🥧(TSA) - I am against it

Question 11: Endogenic systems using the term 'system'?

🐲 (ESO) - I think they should use other terms

Question 12: Endogenic systems using the term 'alter'?

🐝 (ESO) - I think they should use other terms

Question 13: Xeno-origins?

💭(IDW) I don't know what the term means

So yeah! If you want to block us or any of our sideblogs after this then go ahead, just don’t make this a huge thing plspls :3

[starringmycoffee]

Syscourse Code!

Syscourse code Carrd

1. Do you believe in endogenic plurality?

👍(Y)- Yes

2. Opinion on tulpas?

💛 (TC) - I think it is cultural appropriation, and other terms are better

3. Do you think endos just don't remember their trauma?

📘(NETR) - People sometimes misunderstand their identity, it doesn't mean everyone is misunderstanding / not remembering.

4. Opinion on shared spaces?

🔸(NSP) - Shared spaces are good but there should also be specific spaces for disordered, traumagenic, endogenic, etc spaces.

5. Do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transX?

🔵(TXA) - No, and I'm against transplural

6. Do you think you can have DID/OSDD without trauma?

🌘(DTO) - No, but a DID/OSDD/UDD system can form endogenic headmates.

7. Do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. Japanese introject using Japanese names, while in a white body)?

🟨(CNP) - If they're given permission by a member of that culture

8. Opinion on researched self diagnosis?

🌲(SDXY) - Supportive

9. Sysmed as a term?

🗯(IDN) I do not want to have an opinion on this / do not have an opinion.

10. Traumascum as a term?

🥧(TSA) - I am against it

11. Endogenic systems using the term 'system'?

🐊(ESY) - Supportive

12. Endogenic systems using the term 'alter'?

🐜 (EAN) - Neutral

13. Xeno-origins?

🐬(XEN) - I don't understand their purpose

[duskcourse]

Our Syscourse Stances

We are filling this out based upon the popularized "Syscourse Code" and will be going in depth in our explanations of our opinions here.

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Question one - Do you believe in endogenic plurality

👍(Y)- Yes

We are pro-endo and have come to the very solidified conclusion that the experience of feeling there is more than one self cannot be limited to one disorder or even category of disorders. It is very clear to me that DID is not "alters disorder" though alternative identities is a major factor in the disorder the focus is on the dissociation and amnesia between these selves/identities. (Selves are a philosophical concept meanwhile "identity" in this sense refers to a psychological phenomenon)

Question two - Opinion on tulpas

💜(TNU) - Nuanced opinion / other

We are pro the practice of what is known as "tulpmancy" in the case that practitioners are willing to learn about the history of the term and understand the problems with how it originally came to be due to the racist history. I believe the modern practice is incredibly divorced from any semblance of what was the original Tibetan practice with "sprulpa". I am however not someone of said culture, thus I defer to them and by and large I have seen the idea that the term should be changed or moved away from.

Question three - Do you think endos just don't remember their trauma

📘(NETR) - People sometimes misunderstand their identity, it doesn't mean everyone is misunderstanding / not remembering.

When we were younger we thought our alters were spontaneous "tulpas" as we were still living in trauma we did not recognize and had excessively high amnesia. We were wrong about that part of our exploration and later amnesia came back and we forgot we were a system all together. This does not mean that all my peers when I was younger had lied about their systems or also were people with DID or OSDD-1.

Question four - Opinion on shared spaces

🔺 (YSP) - Supportive

Originally I thought there should still be specific spaces for DID/OSDD-1 but also as more time has gone by and I have been in so many spaces geared towards mentally ill people- it never goes well. No online spaces should be for just severely vulnerable people. Predators flock there in mass. Thus shared spaces, in my opinion, are best for the safety of all persons. Groups should be created in real life in the form of therapy groups however.

Question five - Do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transX

🔵(TXA) - No, and I'm against transplural

I want to be clear this isn't us being against willogenic systems and people who engage in what was previously known as "tulpamancy" and now often is referred to as crafting thoughtforms (or the other term I am sadly blanking on). We are against the radqueer community due to extensive racism, sexism, transphobia, ableism, and abuse apologia. You are not transitioning in the way a trans person is. You are either plural or not. Working with spiritual or psychological practices isn't the same as transitioning in gender. Also I would argue whether or not you happened to be plural by chance or chose to do practices to become so the level of oppression you face is the same- unless it is disordered plurality in which you face systemic ableism as well.

Question six - Do you think you can have DID/OSDD/UDD without trauma

🌖(DTN) - Neutral

I do believe that current research shows all known and studied cases seem to tie back to some level of trauma mixed with other very important elements. However due to the way disorders are categorized in psychology as grouped symptoms and are not actually a true easily spotted one condition... it is very likely that it could be caused by other factors. DID is not one condition, it is a grouping of symptoms. We know all these various symptoms may theoretically occur without trauma. This means it's a very complex issue. However we also know through case studies that almost every case of these coinciding symptoms are predated by trauma.

Question seven - Do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. Japanese introject using Japanese names, while in a white body)

🟦(CNNU) - Nuanced opinion / other

As a mixed white/native person who has never lived in Japan nor had community with Japanese people we believe it would be racist for us to use those names. However there are cases where people can take names from specific groups that on first glance may seem questionable. What matters is the connection to the actual cultures. If someone lives in a specific country, interacts with the cultures, and/or has family of said culture where in the names relate to those relationships it is okay.

Question eight - Opinion on researched self diagnosis

🌲(SDXY) - Supportive

Self diagnosis can be incredibly helpful for those who cannot at some point in time afford care. People who cannot get the care they need should at least have ways to try and find helpful mechanisms to cope. Knowing a disorder you may have can be helpful in order to look at advice and aid from others with the condition or from medical sources until a proper diagnosis and treatment can be had. It is also important you do not attach yourself too much to the self-diagnosis and allow room to accept if it turns out you are wrong and it is something else.

For example when we were younger we thought we might have had BPD aka borderline personality disorder. We have since learned we do not have that disorder and other issues of ours can explain our limited symptomology of BPD.

Question nine - Sysmed as a term

☀️(SMY) - I support it's usage

Sysmed is very useful shorthand for system medicalist and it works well to describe the anti-endo position of needing ton have a diagnosis to explain a form of self-identity that is atypical from the norm. As much as people get mad about it... there is similarities between transgender medicalism and system medicalism.

Question ten - Traumascum as a term

🥧(TSA) - I am against it

My understanding is the term was purposefully made to be shitty by a bait blog. However people at times have used it. It is disgusting and helps nobody.

Question eleven - Endogenic systems using the term 'system'

🐊(ESY) - Supportive

Not that deep- they're systems. System is a very common word.

Question twelve - Endogenic systems using the term 'alter'

🐞 (ESNU) - Nuanced opinion / other

If they're diagnosed with DID or OSDD-1 or medically recognized or have the symptoms aligning with either I believe it's more reasonable. However I do think it's good to have the term alter kept to just DID and OSDD-1 because I see the term as being used more so when expressing there are barriers that need to be worked through between headmates.

Question thirteen - Xeno-origins

🐳 (XEY) - Supportive

Have fun honestly. If labels for yourself help you express and understand your own identity and feel safe and happy then go for it. We like looking for things we can sorta identify with and honestly it can just be comforting as an idea of "wow others experience splits from this too" or similar.

[amity-moonrise]

Our syscourse code :p (i dont think we made one yet so here)

Please note: We dont typically engage in syscourse in the first place but we are putting this out here so ppl know what our stances are on things more clearly.

Do you believe in endogenic plurality?

✊(M) - if/when i see credible proof

Opinion on tulpas

💙(TA) - Against

Do you think endos just don't remember their trauma

📗(MTR) - I think a lot of them don't

Opinion on shared spaces

🔻(ASP) - I am against it

Do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transX

🔇(ONA) I have an opinion but would prefer not to state it

Do you think you can have DID/OSDD/UDD without trauma

🌑(DTNO) - No

Do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. Japanese introject using Japanese names, while in a white body)

🟦(CNNU) - Nuanced opinion / other

As long as the name itself is one that isn’t a culturally sacred name or a religious sacred name then I think for the most part it’s okay, it’s better to ask someone from that culture though. If you’re unsure of a name, do your research or find alternatives. Better to be safe than sorry.

Unrelated but I also think that people should just mind their own business about someones name unless they’re very clearly appropriating it (ie, using a cultural name on an OC and making fun of said name, our ex did that once 💀)

Before you come after us for this, yes, we are quite literally a POC system. And we know what its like to see our culture and our names being appropriated and made fun of. So no it’s not like we don’t know anything.

Opinion on researched self diagnosis

🌳(SDXI) - If the person has done extensive research it's okay

Sysmed as a term

🌦(SMA) - Against it

Traumascum as a term

🥧(TSA) - I am against it

Endogenic systems using the term 'system'

🐲 (ESO) - I think they should use other terms

Endogenic systems using the term 'alter'

🐝 (ESO) - I think they should use other terms

Xeno-origins

🐟 (XEA) - Against it

Syscourse carrd link

[interstellar-cluster]

Syscourse and Plural code!

We took the liberty to answer the syscourse code and the plural code to the best of our ability.

Syscourse code:

👍 / ❤️ / 📘 / 🔸 / 🟢 / Y & 🌘 / 🟨 / 🌱 / ☀️ / 🍞 / 🐊 / 🐝 / ���

Plural code:

🌄 / 💙 / 🔦 / 🌲-🌻 / 🐻 / 🎧 / ⚡

Yeah so that's it. Please don't bring arguments onto our page, we're just making our stances clear!

[moonpool-system]

hi! syscourse code carrd was deleted. so the link in ur pinned no longer works! heres an archive of the carrd tho: https://web.archive.org/web/20240523060149/https://syscoursecode.carrd.co/

ty for this! wouldnt have been able to update otherwise

[eldricourse]

Syscourse Code

pt: syscourse code

link to code

👍 || 💜 || 📘 || 🔸 || 🔵🟣 || 🌘🌒 || 🟥 || 🌲 || ☀️🌤 || 🥖🥧 || 🐊 || 🐜 || 🐳

Question one - Do you believe in endogenic plurality

👍 : Yes

Question two - Opinion on tulpas

💜 : Nuanced opinion / other

Question three - Do you think endos just don't remember their trauma

📘 : People sometimes misunderstand their identity, it doesn't mean everyone is misunderstanding / not remembering.

Question four - Opinion on shared spaces

🔸 : Shared spaces are good but there should also be specific spaces for disordered, traumagenic, endogenic, etc spaces.

Question five - Do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transX

🔵 : No, and I'm against transplural

🟣 : No

Question six - Do you think you can have DID/OSDD/UDD without trauma

🌘 : No, but a DID/OSDD/UDD system can form endogenic headmates.

🌒 : Nuanced opinion / other

Question seven - Do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. Japanese introject using Japanese names, while in a white body)

🟥 : Yes

Question eight - Opinion on researched self diagnosis

🌲 : Supportive

Question nine - Sysmed as a term

☀️ : I support it's usage

🌤 : I support it as long as it isn't misused and still means it's definition

Question ten - Traumascum as a term

🥖 : I think it's harmful

🥧 : I am against it

Question eleven - Endogenic systems using the term 'system'

🐊 : Supportive

Question twelve - Endogenic systems using the term 'alter'

🐜 : Neutral

Question thirteen - Xeno-origins

🐳 : Supportive

[the-animus-collective]

syscourse code

our syscourse stances and opinions. we do not typically involve ourselves in syscourse, but we figured that we might as well set a baseline. no emoji or letter codes, just answers to the questions.

the code:

do you believe in endogenic plurality?

yes. even if psychology does not directly mention tulpas, thoughtforms, etc. schizophrenic and internal family systems still exist and are discussed a lot in psych fields. research them.

opinion on tulpas?

supportive. we don’t have a stance on whether or not they should use a different name. we are not a part of the culture it originates from.

do you think endos just don’t remember their trauma?

no. accusing someone of that is annoying at the least and, at the worst, can lead to psychotic illness, suicidal tendencies, and dpdr disorders.

opinion on shared spaces?

very supportive. we think everyone should have individual spaces as well. people have differing symptoms and thinking and opinions.

do you think endogenic plurality is comparable to transx?

not unless they consider themselves to be or be related to transx. we have no opinions on transx systems but are heavily against other transx identities (i.e. transabled)

do you think you can have did/osdd/udd without trauma?

yes. the dsm-5 mentions nothing about trauma and many forms of osdd and udd do not mention trauma or directly say trauma cannot be had to have one of those diagnoses.

do you think introjects from other cultures should be able to use that culture's names if they aren't bodily part of it (eg. japanese introject using japanese names, while in a white body)

yes, 100%. unless the name has religious or cultural meaning (i.e. it’s given as a mark of priesthood), it’s completely fine. we use other cultures’ names all the time for kids, why wouldn’t it be the same for alters?

opinion on research self-dx?

heavily supportive.

opinion on ‘sysmed’ as a term?

as long as it’s used correctly and keeps it’s meaning, sure.

opinion on ‘traumascum’ as a term?

maybe. if the person is being scummy, sure. we find it to be more of an insult than a descriptor, though.

opinion on endogenic systems using the word ‘system’?

supportive. what else are they supposed to call themselves?

opinions on endogenic systems using the word ‘alter’?

supportive. as well as headmate, personalities, states, etc. again, what else are they supposed to use?

opinions on xeno-origins?

supportive.

[squidcourse]

Its so tedious, especially when they don’t explain their responses so you gotta check the emojis lol.

Yknow what ima just say it

Sometimes syscourse codes are fucking confusing

Like

How tf am I supposed to know what those lil emojis mean????

[cambriancrew]

I think part of our issue with syscoursing - like the thing that makes it unhealthy for us at times and makes us dig in when we shouldn't and what makes us keep going past the point where it's harmful for the people we're arguing against...

We have a very positive view of arguing. For us, arguing is inherently a neutral thing, leaning towards positive. You can argue without fighting. Fighting is when arguing becomes dirty - when you start attacking each other instead of the topic. We argue with each other regularly. The distinction between a disagreement and an argument for us is that a disagreement is a matter of opinions that aren't strongly held and ultimately are subjective. Arguments are over things you want to prove objectively true or false, or right or wrong, and/or things you're committed to believing one way or another. For us, if a stance or fact or belief can't stand up to criticism and debate, it's not worth holding or believing in. Also we enjoy the process.

But for other people, it's not like that, and can easily get into mud slinging territory, and even a far way away from that territory can feel like a personal attack.

Which isn't to say that we never feel like calling people idiots, though we mostly only do that with people showing intentional, willful ignorance. Like trying to claim that a source says something it absolutely doesn't say anything remotely close to, proving they didn't look at the source at all. Like no matter what your stance is that's just plain stupid behavior. It's not kind though, and so we're going to be consciously choosing not to do that from here on out. Which means, for starters, we're no longer going to be using our Twitterpated idiots tag for posting about arguments had on Twitter. Gonna take some time to think about what we'll use from here on out.

We very rarely fight. Our last actual fight was when we were married and our ex was trying to pressure us into getting rid of our Crew. Varyn was willing to dissipate, but others, led by Aery, were willing to fight tooth and nail to stay, and some unkind words, to put it mildly, were said between Varyn and Aery and the others.

Idk where I'm going with this.

But yeah. We're going to start trying to be more proactively kind and considerate in syscourse. Because it's not right for us to cause harm by way of the fact that we view arguments as not harmful - what's not harmful to us, may be to others, and we need to be consciously aware of that.

Anyone we've ever harmed through syscourse, through arguing past the point of causing harm, past the point where it diverges from arguing into fighting and being unkind, we're sorry. We're going to try and do better.

One of our core principles in our Code of Conduct is Do No Harm (as much as is humanly possible) and in 2025 we're going to focus harder on living that out. (And our other two Code of Conduct principles, Take Responsibility, and Encourage Growth in Self and Others, which both tie into this.)

We're going to do our best. And we would encourage other syscoursers to do the same.

[strawberry-graveyard]

when we first started our syscovery we were in heavy anti endo spaces. and their strict idea of what a system must be and negativity and also general unwillingness to listen to and understand and help people trying to figure out if they were a system caused one of our headmates to send the system into complete shut down. heavy dissociation barriers to the point that i don’t even remember most of it aside from the fact that it happened.

but a year later when we started to explore pro endo spaces and saw a much more open, and understanding community brimming with love and acceptance and such a wide variety of ways to be plural and saying that all of them are valid even if they’re different, made us much more comfy with coming to terms with our plurality. there wasn’t any pressure to be a certain way to be valid, we already were. it was so freeing and i’m so thankful we’ve managed to find a home here.

[starfallsystemblog2]

Does anyone have the syscourse stances emoji code thing?

[strawberry-rainbow-pride]

doing the syscourse code challenge!

👍/❤️/📙/🔸/🟠/🌕/🟥/🌲/☁️/🥖/🐊/🐌/🐳

-hope

[forget-meabh-not]

Wishqueer

Wishqueer is a blankqueer term for those who wish for acceptance and for everyone to stop fighting! its for those who wish that online spaces will be more friendly and open and less hostile! its for those who are just so so tired of constantly having to prove that they are "valid" and just wish that they could relax.

Wishqueer is pro:

-Mogai/Liom

-ALL system/plural origins

-M-Spec lesbians/gays

-"Contradictory" Labels

-Neopronouns

-Desirdae, Dissomei, Intusui, and other transID alternatives

-Acceptance of paraphiles/paraphilias

-Recovery for those who have harmful paraphilias

-Self Expression(such as body mods, "weird" ways to dress, etc)

-Kink at Pride

-Reclamation of slurs

-Alterhuman/Nonhuman

Wishqueer is neutral on:

-Shipcourse

Wishqueer is anti:

-Harrasment

-Radqueer

-transIDs

-Xenosatanist

-Sysmed

-Exclustionist

-Contact for harmful paras

-Minors in kink/nsfw spaces

-Syscourse

-Demonization of mental illnesses

-Forced recovery

Emoji Code: 💫🌨️

:D!

[heavens-roses]

Octocon and RAMCOA survivors

pt: octocon and RAMCOA survivors

cw: RAMCOA, number names

Felt I should share this as I haven't really seen it talked about in system or RAMCOA spaces. When you use Octocon your parts will be attached numbers to each part based off who was created first. While it's likely due to how to code the easiest. it is important to remember that if you are a survivor who has parts who were forced to be called a number, are a survivor who was called a number collectively/bodily, forced to refer to others as numbers or has any trauma related to number names please tread carefully.

I know as a survivor it can be extremely scary not being able to control your name or having anxieties related to not being called your number too. Please know you are not forced to use Octocon just because other people are using it. If plural kit or simply plural work best for you than keep using them. You do not need to switch over and risk your own mental health. Being a survivor who was dehumanized to numbers is horrible and whether you decide to reclaim your trauma or are healing by moving away from it know your triggers are valid.

Know you are never alone in healing your trauma and note this post is for education. This is not to bash in the creators of Octocon nor is it to tell you how to feel about the app/bot. At the end of the day how you find support with yourself is for only you and your system to decide. With thet being said do not interact with this post if you are pro/neu-endo / believe in any form of "plurality" outside of being trauma based. If you are a questioning system, a cdd system who is syscourse unaligned or apathetic you are more than welcome to repost and interact.

[buntress]

[ID in alt text by @horrgores ]

『 ✿ ⋆｡˚ 』 Old Queer

[PT :: Old Queer]

✿ Overview ✿

A blankqueer label // stance for queers who are too old for this shit. It believes that queer // mogai discourse and infighting is stupid and harmful to the community at large and that as long as you aren't harming anyone do whatever the hell you want. One doesn't have to be a specific age to ID with this term, just share the general sentiment. The emoji code is 『 🪻💚 』

✿ Stances ✿

What Old Queer Is ::

Pro MOGAI // Xenogender // Microlabels

Pro Mspec // Contradictory labels

Pro Endogenic // Non-Traumagenic systems and Anti-Syscourse

Pro Queer Education and Research

Pro going outside and becoming active in your irl community

Pro Recovery Paraphilia // Anti-Contact harmful paraphilia

Pro Kink at Pride

Pro Reclamation of slurs

Against the idea of Cluster Abuse ( NPD abuse, BPD abuse, etc)

Anti-Harassment, live and let live.

Pro fucking with bigots for fun

Pro harm reduction

Pro Therian // Otherkin // Alterhuman // Transspecies

What Old Queer isn't ::

Pro Radqueer

Pro TransID

Pro Xenosatanist

TERFs // TIRFs // Gender Crit // Gatekeeping

Exclusionary

Minors in kink // NSFW spaces

Tagging :: @radiomogai @io-archival @redacted-coiner @genderdenied @mimiscoiningcafe @discrophy @dsm--v @kiruliom Simplified flag + color meanings below the cut!

[ID in alt text]

✿ Design Meanings ✿

Shades of purple and blue-green because the colors purple and green are some of the oldest colors to represent the queer community

Yellow lines to represent queer joy

White to represent unity

Violets because, once more, it is one of the oldest queer symbols we have. While violets originally held a meaning for sapphic love, here it is to represent educating yourself further on queer history to understand your community better.

The lacy top and bottom lines to give it kind of a "grandmas lace" feel, making it feel older!