#star wars disk horse

[limnsaber]

“Luke Skywalker took that baby” shut up shut up shut up did you pay attention. the goal of the show for two whole seasons was to return the baby to his kind. It was Grogu’s choice to go and Grogu’s choice to come back like ahjsjsbdbfnnfnfnfndn “Luke Skywalker baby stealer” SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

[captainsway]

Why do the Jedi take in children specifically? Like, I've heard that it's to prevent the kids from forming attachments, but are there any other reasons?

because it's their education/lifestyle/protection? if a child who is strong in the force isn't given to the jedi, they could either be 1) ostracised for being 'weird', 2) be put in danger from dark siders/slavers, or 3) lose their powers completely. all of these have been explored in the clone wars/the mandalorian.

kids learn easier and need to be taught about the force/the universe/societal and personal discipline - it's literally the same as kids getting schooling in the real world. if you teach a child good manners or basic concepts like languages when they're younger, they retain that information longer and easier than if they learnt it when they were older. as was stated in the mandalorian, if you don't keep the connection with the force, you could eventually lose the connection. it's a muscle that needs to be trained and also a spiritual connection that needs to be nourished. kids can learn that with the jedi.

it's also a way to make sure they grow up secure, loved, and stable. that's the prime development stage when it comes to security of the self, without a lot of the burdens of the world. and if they *were* burdened already before they were with the jedi, they can start the healing process much earlier. that isn't to say the jedi don't care about adults who have darkness and burdens - yoda and obi-wan continuously tried to teach/help ventress even though she was a darksider in her 20s or so.

also tbh it's not like it's completely unprecedented. a lot of kids in south asia become monks to provide better care and education when they're young. in the west, we send kids to boarding schools or even pre-pre-school lmao. it's all about loving care, safety, and education.

[jackdaw-kraai]

“The Jedi were wrong—” “The Jedi were right—” “Darth Vader is a villain—” “Darth Vader is a victim—”

The Jedi and Darth Vader are whatever the hell I need them to be to make the story happen get the fuck on my level

[bearseesastarwar]

Star Wars has always been an absolute dumpster fire of a fandom but these last few weeks, and days, in particular have been horrific.

The outright hatred and venom directed towards The Acolyte and the creatives involved in it has been equal parts baffling, infuriating and depressing. I've never known a "fandom" to gleefully dance on the grave of a cancelled show, I've never before seen "fans" laugh and mock people who are disappointed at the cancellation. And I've never seen this level of sustained, vicious bigotry and organised harassment in any other fandom. Star Wars fans have always been awful, particularly to women and POCs, but they plumbed new depths in their campaign against The Acolyte.

I've been feeling a bit meh about Star Wars lately but The Acolyte reignited the spark for me. After this cancellation and watching the anti fans do victory laps over it, the spark was snuffed out again almost as soon as it caught.

I've loved this franchise for nigh-on four decades but I'm so tired of this. I think I'm done. The toxicity is just too much. I don't see the point in getting invested in something if it's just going to get canned, while angry piss-babies scream at me for having the gall to enjoy something they've made it their entire personality to hate.

I hate to let the chuds win but the way things are going, Star Wars is going to continue on its way to becoming a wasteland of key-jangling cameos, call -backs, shambling, dead-eyed CGI corpses and empty, meaningless nostalgia. The chuds can have it.

[briliantlymad]

Some obiwan fans over on twt are weird cus what do you mean he was the only father figure the twins knew????

Uncle Owen was a father through and through to luke and bail organa was a father to leia

[jessequinnfirstofhername]

Hey, you! Random Star Wars fan who's reading this!

Do you have any controversial Star Wars opinions you're just dying to tell the world about?

My inbox is open to all Star Wars confessions. I will react to each and every one, and that is my promise to you. I swear it on Anakin Skywalker's pretty little face. Feel free to submit anonymously if you so wish.

It can be silly, it can be serious, it can be thirsty, it can be rage-filled and bitter, or it can be gushing and giddy.

The opportunities are endless!

Let's cause some chaos! ;)

[ireallyamabear]

nobody hates sw fans more than sw fans

[cakevsdragonicons]

Ezra Bridger from Star Wars Rebels is a space ace!

requested by anon!

[starbeltconstellation]

If you just think about the fact that, in Anakin’s mind, Rex is a tier below R2-D2 in terms of his care level… I think you’ll realize just how bad the implications of that really are. 😬😬😬

Unfortunately the stark fact is that Anakin objectively did treat the clones worse than other jedi did. That he was pretty good with them for three years might make him better than Krell but I doubt other jedi would have been prepared to override their free will entirely to force them to kill little kids. You can’t just… ignore that when looking at his relationship with the clones.

At the end of the day he cared about the clones the same way he cared about the jedi. He cared about Rex the same way he cared about Ahsoka and Obi Wan. He cared, just not enough not to betray them and kill them. He valued their lives, but not as much as he valued his needs.

[captainsway]

Hi, I'm a newer fan of Star Wars, and I came across your blog. I'm also an Asian, but I never really liked connecting the Jedi with South Asian religions like Buddhism and Hinduism. Maybe my distaste comes from that fact that George Lucas butchered Hinduism offensively in the Indian Jones franchise, and Star Wars reeks of appropriation.

I read through your Star Wars posts, and it was nice to see someone try to respectfully portray the Asian-ness of Star Wars.

I was reading one of your rebuttals regarding the jedi practicing therapy, and I was curious. I've only really seen the movies, Clone Wars and Rebels; no books or comics. Where exactly do the Jedi canonly practice or have therapeutic services? Like, I kind of saw it in ROTS with the Yoda/Anakin scene, but that felt less like therapy and more like just seeking advice from an older person you know. Both are beneficial, but they aren't the same. Is it in the books?

i don't read the books or comics or whatever. the therapy bit is about what is said in the movies (primarily by yoda, but also obi-wan and qui-gon) and what was said in actual therapy, both individual and group practices. it is Established History that 1) western therapy is based on buddhist practices and 2) lucas himself practiced buddhism and wrote it into star wars. the jedi constantly use mantras such 'may the force be with you', 'luminous beings are we, not this crude matter', or even the jedi code (which is not in the movies but it resonates with buddhism:

There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the Force.

people always misinterpret it as 'oh noooo emotions are baaaad' but it's always about *mindfulness*. if you let your emotions rule you, then you're not peaceful. if you do not take the time to understand why you're feeling what you're feeling and let your emotions rule you, then your emotions will let you lose everything. lashing out in anger, letting opportunities pass you by bc of being too scared, being happy about other people's misfortunes, etc etc. people also liken the jedi to a cult but cults suppress knowledge. the jedi have repeatedly taught their students to seek out knowledge and make mistakes, but learn from them. that's even in the movies when yoda teased obi-wan about 'losing a planet' in front of the kids and told obi-wan to look at it a different way. the last line is about how when you die, you're not really dead - your spirit becomes one with the force and you'll be reunited again there, so while you can mourn for someone's death, also celebrate their life and the fact that you will inevitably see them again. if you focus only on their death, you'll fall into despair and hopelessness and even fear of losing more people. death *is* inevitable and you cannot let the rest of your life pass you by from fear of it.

this is also the belief of attachment - which is directly from eastern beliefs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonattachment_(philosophy) it's literally about not being greedy, being open to your fellow humans, giving yourself to a greater purpose, etc. it's even in christianity where 'it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God'. you cannot be attached to worldly possessions if it hinders your own humanity or the people around you. that's exactly what the jedi preach and why anakin failed when it came to padme. he even explicitly said this to her in aotc about how the jedi work: 'Attachment is forbidden. Possession is forbidden. Compassion, which I would define as unconditional love, is essential to a Jedi's life. So you might say, that we are encouraged to love.' they love *everyone* because that is their enlightenment and their belief in the force, so focusing on just one person and clinging to that one person to the point where no one else matters is antithetical to being a jedi.

in regards to the whole being asian and cultural appropriation: yeah i get it. but the fact of the matter is that lucas himself was *actively* buddhist and was trying to create a story that would show buddhism to western audiences. was lucas racist? yes, undoubtedly. that's not up for debate. was he actually pretty accurate in displaying buddhism in his space fantasy movies? yeah actually and it's been repeatedly documented over and over and over again. people whine about how the movies were all about white men, but yoda himself was actually a pretty??? clear stereotype of the wise asian master??? obi-wan was too in a sense, but because he wasn't played by lucas' original actor (toshiro mifune), it's not as obvious. but yoda, with his speech patterns, his methods of training, hell, even his appearance (if you discount the fact he's an alien), is all along the lines of the mr miyagi archetype (or is mr miyagi a yoda archetype hMMM).

i guess the question is: would you rather dismiss all asian aspects in star wars even though lucas was directly inspired by both buddhism and samurai movies and has actually been pretty accurate in regards to the former, or would you rather embrace the jedi as being asian inspired and 'reclaim' them? to be honest i find it rather frustrating seeing all the asian beliefs that lucas tried really hard to bring to western audiences be bastardised and dismissed by white people in the fandom, including writers and certain show runners who purposefully misinterpret the jedi because they don't understand buddhism. it's like, why am i told i'm 'wrong' when people who ARE asian/buddhist/etc find kinship in the jedi and have constantly found evidence that they are more similar to east and south asian beliefs than anything and having people dismiss that is actually problematic and pretty racist in itself?

regardless of what i say here, here's more articles i've found from a quick google:

6 Similarities Between Star Wars And Zen Buddhism

The spiritual message hidden in 'Star Wars'

The Buddhist and Taoist influences that underpin the Star Wars universe

Jedis, Buddhism and the translational power of film

may the force be with you!

[elljayvee]

problematic droid relationships

Artoo-Detoo is like 100 years older than Threepio. that is a seriously problematic age gap just saying. Artoo should be canceled

[delilah-briarwood]

Every time I’m back on my Star Wars bullshit, I’m reminded that the Sequel Trilogy is just a knock off of Jacen and Jaina Solo. We were robbed.

[jaguarys]

I understand why people start discourse about the Jedi attachment rule and all but at the same time I just really don't feel like there's a real-world parallel to "Hey maybe be careful about your emotions seeing as that can cause you to become Magically Massively Evil" for the Incredibly Powerful Sword-wielding Magic Users and I just feel like I can't really blame them for thinking that maybe there should be some rules for the safety of the Entire Fucking Galaxy

[i-told-u-its-skittles]

digging up this old thing to put thoughts unto the void once more. "ohoooo you're all horrible for harassing people like this over meaningless ships on the internet" is the most pathetic hill to die on that would be funny if it wasn't taken so seriously. Like. You realize that shipping is an active choice people make right. My brother in Christ you are the one shipping siblings of your own free will you can simply Not Fucking Do That and not be harassed, I'm sorry

[bitterfrosts]

are we gonna sit here and pretend tlj was good just because y'all liked glass onion?

[vintagegeekculture]

I remember a friend of mine had some LPs that were Star Wars themed disco albums, and it brought back a very weird memory from back in the 70s (yes, I'm old!) of listening to a Star Wars disco mashup on the radio. What was all that about? I also remember something like that for Close Encounters, too.

You remember correctly, and this went on for a long while. In 1983, disk jockeys around the country played a record that involved an Ewok rapping the plot of Return of the Jedi in Ewokese. This made it to #60 in the Billboard Top 100.

This is hard to explain to people who weren’t there….but in the wake of Star Wars in the late 70s and early 80s, scifi was so beloved and mainstream that the orchestral music for nerdy scifi and fantasy movies about outer space were remixed and sampled into Giorgio Moroder-esque Italo-Disco dance numbers. And the most astonishing thing is, instead of being consigned to convention acts the way “horse famous” Brony dubstep acts are, this received national airplay on the radio, reached the pop music charts, and were played in discotheques. And incredibly, this continued for years and expanded from Star Wars into Star Trek, Wizard of Oz, Black Hole, Close Encounters….

All of this was the work of one specific person: Meco (or Dominico Monardo). The term “ahead of their time” is thrown around a lot, but Meco really was: a combination producer-songwriter and Italo-Disco pioneer in the style of Giorgio Moroder, he did several things that are now absolutely standard: he used remixes and sampling before hiphop made that standard for musicians, he wrote “fandom music” on a Moog synthesizer decades before Bronies turned their conventions into cringey dubstep concerts with songs like “Everypony Dance Now.”

It's stunning to me that Meco has not been rediscovered, considering every single trend in the culture essentially went his way.

The most startling thing about Meco’s Star Wars disco album, the one that got the ball rolling on this trend, is this: I always assumed it was some kind of cash in created by a record label mandate, a label executive’s completely cynical choice to hop on a hot new trend. That isn’t a crazy thing to think at all, since Star Wars is and always has been the most merchandized and sold out scifi property ever. But it wasn’t! You see, it was all the product of a single man’s specific vision: Meco had to convince his record label to make the record because they were skeptical.

When Meco went to see Star Wars in 1977 on Opening Day (what an experience that must have been) with his friend and fellow Italian chest hair/gold medallion enthusiast Tony Bongiovi, he was already an experienced producer-songwriter who had worked with Gloria Gaynor, Diana Ross, and formed DCA, the Disco Corporation of America. If you've ever listened to Diana Ross's "I'm Coming Out," Meco actually played the trombone solo in that song. Seeing the Star Wars movie for the first time, though Meco thought the movie was nothing short of a religious experience. Originally, he wanted to do Star Wars music as a b-side on a Gloria Gaynor album, but expanded the idea into an entire album.

In Meco’s own words:

"When I think about what I did, nobody came to me, nobody said 'Meco, why don't you do this.' Nobody says 'Here's some money go make a record of this movie.' It was just my own... It was magical, it was just out of this world when all that happened."

Not only did this album hit platinum, not only did it actually outsell the Star Wars soundtrack, his remix of the Star Wars theme also went to #1 in the charts. It’s actually the best selling instrumental single of all time. A record, that, incidentally, it holds to this day.

Dick Clark, host of American Bandstand, had this to say about Meco:

"In 1977, Meco Monardo accomplished something no one else has ever done to the best of my knowledge. He was the first one in history to out-sell the soundtrack of a motion picture with his own distinctive version of a film's music. The music was totally danceable, and broke new ground. It's no wonder the STAR WARS THEME went to # 1. I loved his treatment of music from THE WIZARD OF OZ. Again, Meco created something innovative. The fun and the excitement gave a whole new feel to that totally familiar and well-loved music."

Like a lot of studio producers, Meco had an insane work ethic and hit when the iron was hot: he did an album about Close Encounters that exact same year, but also did a Star Wars Christmas Album, one of the strangest pieces of Star Wars kitsch around.

One of the most interesting things about the Star Wars Christmas album is that one of the songs, “R2D2’s Wish You a Merry Christmas” is the first professional vocals by John Bon Jovi, who was Meco’s friend Tony Bongiovi’s seventeen year old younger cousin (he was initially known as John Bongiovi). It's incredible to hear a squeaky voiced teen Bon Jovi on a kitsch album about a robot Christmas.

1978-1979 was really his best year. Meco made an Italo-Disco remix album entirely devoted to Superman, and at this point, Meco had the pull to get access to John Williams's sheet music for the score before the music even came out. In my personal opinion it's the best of them because he has to recreate it entirely with his own instruments, leading to a very unique sound.

He also did an album based on the Wizard of Oz:

And a combination album of Star Trek/Black Hole. It's probably the earliest remixing date of Goldsmith pieces of music: the Motion Picture Theme (which is now associated with the Next Generation - hearing it done in Italodisco is uncanny) and the Klingon Theme:

Incidentally, I think the design here of the Meco Enterprise, which had to be modified for legal reasons, would make a wonderful canon starship if anyone wants to be inspired by it. It reminds me of the same concept that would be used in the very next film for the Reliant-class of ships.

Meco eventually retired from music in 1985, but unfortunately he is no longer with us, as he passed into the next dimension in 2023. I think he showed us that creativity is often about transformation, and was inspired to make his art by a legitimate awe of space, the cosmos, and human imagination that the scifi movies of the 1970s and 80s provoke.