#star trek aos scenarios

[a-most-beloved-fool]

tos jim kirk is very funny to me because he is so bad with children. you'd think he'd be good with them, but he isn't. i think he probably likes them well enough, he just. doesn't know how to talk to them. not one bit. has no idea how to interact. kids can tell he's trying, but he's bad enough at it that they don't really like him more for it. type of guy who you'd hand a baby to, and he'd hold it out in front of him with stiff arms. like, um. what do i do with this. he could be coached on proper holding technique, but he'd still look visibly uncomfortable the whole time.

tos spock is Not Much Better. i think that he feels more clueless around kids than kirk does, but kids also like him more. he doesn't have it in him to be mean to a child ever, so all the awkward kids adore him, and he spends the whole time with them sending desperate looks to other crew members, being like, 'help, i am ill equipped for childcare' and everyone around him is like, 'nooo, you're doing great!!!' while the child has a blast and he is wishing desperately to be Anywhere Else. however, he does refuse care of babies. somehow, he is even worse with babies than jim is.

bones, though - he's a kid guy. he loves kids and babies. he adores them, they adore him, it's a win win. and he looks over at kirk and spock Struggling and he laughs and laughs and laughs. (the kids, of course, think this is hilarious, and they join in on making fun of kirk and spock, even if they don't really know what they're making fun of them for.)

[landrinha]

You know, sometimes everything in your life sucks, you fail in college, you fail at being a good daughter, you fail at being in shape, you fail at being a good friend bc you're too tired to hang out...

For me, it's always helps my emotional support hiperfixacion. It's like, yeah, I'm doing horrible but at least this gays in space love eachother. So I could love myself a little bit, I could get better.

[thefantastickatinator]

The reason why Jim sacrificing himself in the warp core does not work as the resolution of his character arc is because he would have done the exact same thing before even joining Starfleet

[thelesseroftwoweevils]

... Err? What? No.

Where in AOS is this thing about Kirk being okay with losing so long as there's a silver lining? Where does it say that? When does he express that? The films are not that deep.

AOS Kirk is an arrogant jackass who thinks he can never lose.

And if people are getting the wrong impression. It's probably because in The Wrath of Khan, Kirk was wrong about it and hadn't ever learnt the lesson of the scenario. That some times there is just no way out and nothing to do. As Picard later says:"Sometimes you commit no mistakes and still lose"

That's the whole point of what he says in the Genesis Cave and Spock's sacrifice.

#1170

Often times when reading AOS fics I'll get hit in the face by the fact that so many in the fandom don't understand what Kirk means by no-win scenarios. Too many times I'll see someone write Kirk as a person who will not accept any failure whatsoever because they've equated no-win with all-win or no-lose. That's not what Kirk's on about. He doesn't believe in no-win as in there will always be a silver lining or some type of win to a scenario no matter how bad the odds or failure. Even if the only thing you can say at the end is that you're alive - that's a win. The fact that the Kobayashi Maru kills everyone no matter what they do is what pisses him off so much, a character trait he does in fact share with TOS Kirk who also screwed with the test. So no, Jim doesn't consider Vulcan a no-win. He doesn't consider Khan and Marcus a no-win. He doesn't consider even saving Spock's life by breaking the prime directive and getting demoted a no-win. Because they were wins - some vulcans and Earth were saved, Khan was defeated, Starfleet saved, a Klingon war adverted and Spock is alive. So whenever a fic takes the "I sure hope Jim learned his lesson about no-win scenarios" route I want to bang my head against the wall because he didn't learn anything because there was nothing to learn. At most Kirk's just an arrogant ass who plays too much. He's 22-27 in the first two movies. He has zero experience. He'll grow out of that but not believing in no-win scenarios was something Spock needed to learn from Kirk - that you win some and lose some but at least you won some, not the other way around. Kirk can accept failure so long as it comes with even a minor success. Spock just immediately jumped to the conclusion that they had no hope against Nero alone and failed by never trying.

[trek-tracks]

Things We Don't Talk Enough About in Star Trek AOS:

PIKE: You all right, son?

KIRK: You can whistle really loud, you know that?

PIKE: You know, I couldn't believe it when the bartender told me who you are.

KIRK: Who am I, Captain Pike?

PIKE: Your father's son.

KIRK: (to bartender) Can I get another one?

PIKE: For my dissertation, I was assigned the USS Kelvin. Something I admired about your dad, he didn't believe in no-win scenarios.

KIRK: Sure learned his lesson.

PIKE: Well, it depends on how you define winning. You're here, aren't ya?

KIRK: Thanks.

...That Pike's first conversation with Jim in AOS is literally this meme:

[assassinbugs]

these are "who would you wanna be swapped with" not "who can you act like the most convincingly" polls!! i said pretending to be the other person SHENANIGANS, not life or death scenario! you don't need to be able to actually act like them, smh

there are "pretending to be the other person" shenanigans happening ofc

other versions: Lower Decks, SNW, Discovery, DS9, Voyager, TNG

[tigereyes45]

My asks are open for Star Trek prompts

I'm trying to hit 90 star trek fics on Ao3 before the year anniversary of when I began posting star trek fics, August 26th. The prompts can be one word, or really specific. They can be for any ship (I'm only listing a handful I like best), or no ship at all (character-focused stuff or scenarios are great) but please keep it to the shows I've seen.

Please feel free to send in any writing prompts for the following shows/movies:

TOS

AOS

DS9

VOY

Lower Decks

My favorite ships are:

Mcspirk (McCoy x Spock x Kirk in any combination, mckirk, spones, etc.)

Janeway x Tuvok

Mari'lyn (Mariner x T'lyn)

Janeway x Tuvok x T'pel (and even Mark too before the break up)

TOS Chulu

TOS Uhotty

Harry x Tom x B'Elanna

Quark x Odo x Kira

Mariner x T'lyn x Tendi

Lower Decks Polycule

DS9 Polycule (in any of its forms)

Quark x Odo

Feel free to send as many prompts as you want! Multiple asks are welcomed!

[spockderangementsyndrome]

I was just going to go look at the Wikipedia page, but I decided this would be more fun. Someone please rate how I did here.

What I think happens in Star Trek (2009) based solely on AOS Kirk/Spock fanfic:

George Kirk dies heroically on the USS Kelvin, baby Jim is born in space the same day. Jim grows up with a shitty step-dad & mega daddy issues. He maybe goes to Tarsus? He definitely builds a motorbike, crashes a car over a cliff and gets into fistfights. Pike meets him in a bar and dares him to make something of himself & enroll in Starfleet. He does. He meets Bones and has an allergic reaction to something. He sleeps around, including with Gaila(?), an Orion(?). Uhura thinks he's a fuckboy and hates him. He does well in his classes, and when faced with the no-win scenario of the Kobayashi Maru simulation, he hacks it. Spock, formidable Vulcan instructor who also hates him, brings him up on some sort of academic dishonesty charges which culminates in a public trial like a fucking court martial. The proceedings get interrupted by Nero attacking Vulcan. Amanda definitely dies but maybe Sarek doesn't? The gang somehow all ends up on the Enterprise together (including the 'classic seven' of Uhura, Scott, Chekhov, Sulu & Bones). Pike is captain, or maybe somebody else? Action happens. At some pivotal point, Jim taunts Spock to the point that he chokes him out on the bridge, and maroons him on an ice planet. On the ice planet, he meets real Spock in a cave and they mindmeld & Jim finds out how to stop Nero? And definitely that he and nuSpock are meant to be besties. He's reunited with the ship and stops Nero from destroying Earth and/or the galaxy. Nyota kisses Spock on the bridge (#nohomo). Jim gets handed the captaincy based on pluck and can-do spirit. Everybody agrees to sign up for a five year mission with him. The end.

[celestialvoyeur]

💛💙SPIRK FIC REC💙💛

Right boys and girls, strap in! This is a TRILOGY of amazing fics from the supremely talented @cate-adams. Consisting of the fics 'No-win Scenario', 'Angels and Demons' and 'The Vanguard' they're altogether about the length of two novels, and the story is just FANTASTIC!

A split-second decision changes Jim's life forever, as he enters into a bond with Spock in the face of certain torture. Enemies to the Federation emerge from unlikely places, and the command team must contend with unexpected threats, as well as challenges within their own intense relationship. In this three-part series, the Enterprise races across the galaxy to confront the unknown, and Jim and Spock discover the true significance of their unprecedented connection.

These AOS stories have some truly wonderful original characters as well as brilliant characterisations of all our usual favourites.

[gotnobodycauseimbraindead]

Here’s why I have a fundamental problem with the writers trying to give Spock a girlfriend all the time.

It lessens Kirk and Spock’s relationship. Regardless of whether you think that they were romantic or platonic or somewhere in between, Kirk is THE most important person in Spock’s life. (And vice versa) That is undeniably canon. (“Where do you estimate we belong, Miss Keeler?” “You? At his side, as if you’ve always been there and always will.” …. “I have been and always shall be yours.” …. “You are closer to the captain than anyone in the universe.”)

While Kirk is capable of casual romantic relationships, Spock isn’t. He can’t be. The intimacy of the melding of minds, the touch… he couldn’t have all that with someone and them not become the most important person to him. At least not based on what I see of Spock in canon. So there’s no reconciling the idea of Spock having a girlfriend and still being closer to Kirk than anyone in the universe.

Which again, regardless of whether you view it as romantic or platonic, is indisputably canon. They are truly soulmates, and are meant to be together (not necessarily romantically) in every universe, beyond death, life, every possible scenario. They are the most important people in each other’s lives (followed closely by Dr. McCoy, The Enterprise in Kirk’s case lol, and the other core crew members) and either of them having a long term girlfriend messes with that dynamic. But especially with Spock as he doesn’t have multiple intimate (as in incredibly close, not necessarily sexual) relationships. At least not in my understanding of the character.

And that’s my problem with AOS and SNW. The writers don’t understand that (I’ll give SNW some grace since it has been pre-Kirk and Spock as a unit) and they keep trying to give Spock girlfriends and it frustrates me so much. Yes the case can be made that they are different shows/universes and thus aren’t held to TOS’s “rules” about Kirk and Spock’s relationship, but imo, that’s what makes their relationship extraordinary and so much better than a simple normal friendship. There have been lots of bromances on Star Trek (Bashir and O’Brien, Paris and Kim, Data and La Forge) but none of them have come anywhere close to having the legacy that Kirk and Spock’s do. And I believe that is because of the fact that they are simply THE most important person to each other and how intertwined their souls are.

This is all my opinion but I firmly hold to it lol. Anyway, rant over!

[smhalltheurlsaretaken]

Goodness the AOS Star Trek fandom is obnoxious. The way they're tripping over themselves to invent scenarios in which Uhura and Spock's relationship means absolutely nothing, like the kisses are platonic because in my mind Uhura was raised in a culture where they aren't sexual ah ah, noooo of course Nyota doesn't mind being shoved to the side for the sake of guy love she's very happy about it in fact, hey how funny would it be if she was Spock's ex and not his partner and Jim was just slow to catch on, here are my 284 cutesies headcanons for the moment when Spock realises why he THOUGHT Nyota was his soulmate but really it was Jim, here's how Nyota can be a supportive BFF to Jim and Spock, of course Nyota would be absolutely delighted to give a toast at their wedding.

Yeah. There are absolutely no issues to treating her like a mere accessory to the dudes whatsoever.

[trillgendermetaphor]

imo star trek aos could NEVER give kirk as tragic and compelling a backstory as tos did with tarsus iv. oh, you don’t believe in no-win scenarios because your dad died when you were an infant? sure, okay. but you don’t believe in no-win scenarios because a eugenicist turned one into a mass killing in which you almost died? now THAT is compelling.

[kcscribbler]

M: What’s the weirdest AU scenario you’ve ever come up with?  Did it turn into a story?

Full Ask List

At one point, I had a whole lengthy AU outline and the first chapter of a Star Trek TOS/Mission Impossible (the TV show, not the movie franchise) AU written out. This was many years ago, well before I started backing fic up in a cloud, and I lost the chapter and outline in a catastrophic laptop crash, along with several other WIPs. The shows started around the same time, IIRC, and Leonard Nimoy actually was a regular in a couple of the later seasons. 60s TV at its finest.

I stay away from AUs for the most part, and it's probably no surprise that the ones I have finished are almost all Generations fix-its.

This one I still have a soft spot for, because it was so much fun to write both TOS and AOS characters in the same story, and try to keep their voices correct to their respective universes.

Shades of Darkness No one is more surprised than the newly-resurrected James T. Kirk, when he opens his eyes on an unfamiliar Starfleet Medical bay and a crew nearly forty years his junior. Meanwhile, as the fabric of space and time begins to slowly unravel around what Should Not Be, young Jim finds himself trapped in the ghostly spirit-world of the Nexus, trying to find his way home as his crew desperately search for a way to reach him.

Thank you for the ask!

[shizuoi]

Talk shop Tuesday: is there a character that you haven’t written that you’d want to? A character you never want to write (and why!) but love reading?

characters i want to write are never-ending LOL probably atm it would be skull from l&co and connor from d:bh. i'd like to write skull but my knowledge of skull is relegated to the l&co show and i know that he has much more of a personality in the books so that's kind of a research thing for me. as for connor, i love that boy with all my heart, but i just haven't quite found a scenario that would compel to write him. so many good fics have already been written about him, so it'd have to be a really good idea to have me adding to the the fic count

as for characters i love reading but wouldn't write, probably anyone from star trek. i adore star trek (os and aos) but i feel that i don't have anything new to add to all the amazing work that has already been written about them! maybe one day if the ideas strike me right in the forehead... we shall see!!

[thegeminisage]

nonexhaustive list of celebrities i simply refuse to look at

j*hnny d*pp: i mean, obviously

b*nedict c*mberbatch and m*rtin freem*n: bbc sherlock is an awful show with awful fans and they are both So Ugly i hope all tjlc people are having a bad day today

jason isaacs: though i'm sure he's a lovely person and also he's very talented, watching him in the oa gave me fight-or-flight whenever i see him now. he did TOO good of a job is what i'm saying

t*by st*phens: poseidon should NEVER have been played by a white ginger man just because someone in production has a hard-on for bl*ck FUCKING s*ils. i despise the very sight of him and every time one of you demons makes a horny post about him the world grows a little darker and my hatred, a little deeper

matthew mcconaughey: he didn't do anything wrong but it's because of interstellar.

emily blunt: it's a really long and involved story involving erectile dysfunction and some facebook rp i was lovingly peer pressured into as a teenager. i'm sure she's a fine person or whatever

s*bastian st*n: he also didn't do anything wrong, but i do not want to be taken back to 2014 every time i look at him, so i just don't look at him

chris pine and zachary quinto unless i am actively watching or viewing content from star trek: the absolute dearth of usable footage for gifs/vids/etc from the star trek aos movies made people go watch these actors in other things partially to better imagine how they might look in various scenarios in star trek. like, people would watch the princess diaries 2 to think about a younger jim kirk, which was really normal of them. thankfully, this didn't happen to me...but there's no need to take chances.

any of the supernatural cast unless i am actively watching or viewing content from supernatural: the jokes have been beaten to death please free me from this nightmare

i'm sure there's more that i'm just not thinking of right now. i'll update this post if any new names come to me.

[dearemma]

Ooooooh, the previous anon was spot on regarding the ship wars ruining a good fandom experience. This is why I'm sticking to exclusively Christine Chapel/Spapel fandom while Strange New Worlds airs. I don't want to see the serious real world issues and the words such as "homophobia" being weirdly weaponized just because Spock isn't dating Kirk... It's shocking how some people fail to realize the danger and actual harm of weaponizing the social justice discourse rhetoric in the petty shipping wars.

Also, the worst case scenario is if they start being misogynistic against Chapel. I HATE how often it happens to the female characters who "get in the way" of the mlm ships, consequentially followed by simply HORRIBLE, often over the line harrassment of the actors who play said female characters. Jess doesn't deserve to be harassed just because Spock doesn't kiss Kirk.

I want to say Star Trek fandom is more mature and better than Star Wars, Marvel fandoms, but unfortunately, I doubt that it is.

there are no good fandoms, only good people!

Like, there are people who claim to be uh*ra fans who are being super racist towards celia because she doesn't look like her ao*s version. when like, celia is stunning, heart-stopping beautiful. There are people who claim to support lgbt rights but will shit on lesbians and erase female bisexual characters in order to make their ships happen.

there are going to be people who are terrible in every fandom, and they always reserve their worse for female characters (and black female characters get the brunt of it, always).

i just want to focus on christine, on jess who is absolutely wonderful, on la'an and m'benga who are also my faves! people who are constantly looking for something to be mad at are just... okay, if that's how you have fun? but it's not really fun, is it? to constantly talk trash about something, to hate on something because of a ship!