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public service announcement: im sorry women
#sol.txt#long story short#my last few Discourse posts sent me down a crisis where i realized a few things#that arent easy to admit#one:#as much as i talk so much shit about trans infighting i realized i accidentally and very unintentionally developed some. well.#bigoted beliefs? against well the Other side of the trans community#its a lot harder to admit than im proud of and ive spoken to my girlfriend about it and#yeah#im sorry for everyone who had to watch me develop hateful beliefs in retaliation for how hurt the trans community has been making me feel#because in all honesty it was just a gut response to how hurt i feel here on tumblr#two: i need to work on my anger issues#i need to stop taking every hateful comment personally#as much as ive been subconsciously hateful towards transfems theres been a part of the community thats still hateful towards transmascs#but i need to learn to step away from those comments and learn to be less hurt by them#as much as it sucks#because unfortunately my brain just leads me to develop more hateful thoughts#and three:#i need to stop posting discourse and stop looking at discourse before i fall further down these. Pipelines#so yeah#sorry? i will try my best to be better#its hard to try to improve in this sense without putting myself down for being a trans man#as in i dont want to go the other way completely and just start hating myself for being a trans man and such#but as of rn im open to hearing advice or something on measures i can take to improve my Mindset and to avoid the discourse that#makes it worse
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me when i meet with my colleges first out trans teacher who is like a celebrity with me after one of my teachers puts me in contact with her again (i had interviewed said trans teacher 4 years prior and hadnt met with her since) and she tells me tjat my teacher had so many positive things to say about me, about how i was one of her brightest most well spoken students and that she (within like 5 minutes of having been talking) immediately sees exactly what my professor had been talking about and so many super implied positives about me that i would never had known about and i dod everything in my power to avoid prying for more details but even what i heard was soso nicies
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#iwillspeakincessantly#god it felt so nice to meet with her again#talking woth someone whos been so influential at my school and the whole state as far as transgender and queer policy making and has#so many connections amd experience and is also trans and historically a teacher bfor she retired#genuinely makes me feel so much better about my life and where im going#and less worried about if ill ever be able to live a peaceful life as a trans twacher when she personally knows#multiple other transmen tbats shes taught who are now teaching IN MY STATE#safely and happily#ough#we said wed meet more in the future and she encouraged me to join the cities pride group that she had founded and is the head of#and maybe tjis time ill actjally go#she even gifted me a book that she had had that she thinks would give me solace and comfort in my life#tbat was also written by a trans man sinxe she thinks im easily intelligent enough to get the humor and referwnces in#god she said i was well spoken and articulated even tho i feel so stupid and inarticulate sometimes#since i ramble a lot and lose my thoughts and i feel like my speaking vocabulary is so lowbrow and cheap often#no matter how many times other peope say i always sound so intelligent when i speak#ARGH#been super steessed about a lot of things in my life and if ill make it out alive but just this short hour and a half convo over a food#has made me feel so mich better and happier and hopeful#argh argh ougj i love finding out that people talk immense amount of positive things about me#god#i was rlaking about how often i struggle woth socializing amd making friends and she aas like really? ive been having a wondefful time#walkimg with you youre so intelligent and well spoken and its like thank you my issues ckme from group settings#and unclear un familiar subjects and ettiqutes of my fellow youths#but it made me feel so good about myself#im gonna implode :333333 positive
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I am psychotic, and this is where I will be delusional about my wife. (A 40+ year old man)
(my url is what it is bc i want him to solve me.)
#save me soft spoken southern man……… save me man from the south with a pretty smile………#actually crying and banging on my screen because he’s not real and we’re not married and he’s not in love with me and we’re not both gay#and t4t we need to be trans together it’s okay ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️#anything that he did ‘wrong’ I forgive him. wholeheartedly.
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Ok so these designs are cute as hell, the Internet is just mean
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I have too many thoughts about a game I still need to watch
#goodbye volcano high#i dont have the money to buy it but god i need to watch a playthrough when i have time it's so interesting to me#like; the theme of 'yeah we're going die but that doesn't mean we can enjoy what time we have left' sounds amazing to me love that#its so funny i was actually watching a review of it that was basically 'this game sucks and here's why'#and then it just started listing off shit like- 'the characters designs are pastel they're nonbinary you die no matter what'#and then my neurons just went off and went '👁️👁️ oh! sounds amazing i want to see more'#fuck yeah pastel nonbinary dinosaurs lets go#well i think its just fang thats nonbinary and then two other trans characters#i saw a cutscene! and it was about the experiences of being an apart of a family as sec-gen immigrant and trans-#and i thought that was cool as hell dont recall ever seeing that in any of thr arts ive seen before (but there's lots of art out there!)#heard it got some glitches tho (havent looked in depth of what those glitches are) hopefully it got patched out#also im so fucking pissed i saw the gator game before i saw this 😮💨 (context; apparently made by people who made a fangame where they#the mc of this game a datable side character and they only have a happy ending if they detransition? which fucking yikes😬)#i saw people say 'oh but they did it empathetically' like how the fuck is taking a canon nb character and making them only happy through#detransitioning empathetic that sounds super fucking shitty and gross#i think a character that detransitions can be done and would be interesting to see- but this just reeks of people being transphobic for real#oh also purple dino has a slug or worm or something apparently! seems cute! just a lil thing#apparently its a rhythm game; listened to some of the songs and it sounded good! sadly i suck at rhythm games#but apparently failing doesn't affect the story? kinda wish it would but honestly better for me lol-#pink one and fang end up dating i believe- from what i saw pink is like- soft spoken artist? dunno if accurate but she's cute#all the characters are cute just look at them!!! awesome#also they have to just continue school like normal before they die and honestly thats so real#also saw people dislike the fact you dont see the characters actual die or the meteor#which is ??? dunno i just think some things are better left implied than shown-#anyways man i keep trying to find neat stuff about the game and all i see is people bitchin about it or praising the shit fan on instead 😔#man if i had two nickles for a time i grew to become obsessed with a media only for loads of people to hate id have two nickles#first nickle is kat elliot she's such a cool character Internet wasn't ready for her#also yes i saw obsessed i can just tell this is something ill go bonkers for#i mean god look how much text is in my tags for this already! and i still need to see the game in it's fullness!#im sure there's other cool shit
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hi!!! i want top surgery!!! my parents are helping me with some of the cost but i’m poor!!! here is my gofundme!!!
https://gofund.me/b5f3e092
please donate if you can, like i said i am getting some help from my parents which i’m extremely lucky to have but even with that help it would take years for me to save up the remainder of the cost by myself. plus accounting for recovery costs like time off work, rent, potential complications, any unexpected costs, i just want to give myself the best chance i can of going into this prepared.
if you can’t donate then do not donate!!!! i know how hard life is rn for so many of us, take care of yourself first. just reblogging or sharing this post would mean a lot to me.
i just booked my first consultation with my surgeon for May 2025 and i’m so excited!!!!!
#el has a life#el is trans#trans ftm#trans positivity#transmasc#gofundme#ftm top surgery#fundraising#happy rant incoming#i’d like to give a particular shoutout to a trans man i met at a three day long camp like 5 or 6 years ago and haven’t spoken to since#who within 20 minutes of me posting this link on my instagram story immediately donated $20#every other person who donated so far has been a close friend or family member and i’ve been brought to tears by their generosity multiple#times already#(hi irl friend. yes over u too lmao) (ily) (💕🤘)#but it just really touched me that this man who i knew for a total of three days YEARS ago would help me out like that the moment he saw it#it’s just a small private little moment of trans solidarity that i hope i remember forever#i love being from the country with this flag 🏳️⚧️
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Sometimes I still feel like I was just some kind of. Failed woman. I know that I’m a man and I know that other people don’t see me as a man, but I also don’t feel like they see me as a woman per say. Not to say they’re interpreting me as nonbinary or androgynous or something but rather I simply don’t qualify as male or female in their eyes. Other trans men and nonbinary people talk about their connections to womanhood, their significant bonds with women based on experiences that people perceived as women share, and I’ve always felt. Outside of that. Like I’ve been denied access to girlhood/womanhood even when I was a girl, even at my most feminine, I was always doing it wrong somehow, my gender performance always had to be evaluated, critiqued, corrected by people I did not ask. I tried my best but I could never get it right and because I still don’t perform either gender in the expected way I’m denied being treated as either gender, I’m denied being even acknowledged most of the time. It feels strange. It’s easy to say it never worked out because I was always meant to grow up to be a man. But it doesn’t explain why I can’t even relate to other transmen with these experiences.
#thinking about gender tonight y’all lord help me#I know I was a girl before. I considered myself one even if I wasn’t very good at it#and I tried to be good at it#I often think of that girl#when we were 13 and she looked at me out of nowhere. never spoken to me before.#and she said ‘you know you would be so pretty if you wore makeup’#and I felt so confused because I thought I was pretty. I was a pretty girl. despite how hard people tried to make me feel differently#and she would continue trying to correct me from there on#but I never did it right#and I know being a man is what fits right#but most cis people and even some other trans people don’t see me that way and don’t treat me that way#I’m just denied the privilege of identifying with either binary gender#I have a strong feeling autism has something to do with it#but even then#I often don’t relate to the way people talk about ‘autistic girlhood’
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There's probably something interesting to be said about how when british trans women on tiktok are doing their 'man voice' as a joke, they often also switch accents to MLE.
There's something there about the accents people choose to depict certain characteristics and the hypermasculinisation of men of colour in our society.
I don't wanna deep this, this is not having a go at any of these women. It's almost definitely a subconscious choice. I just think it reveals something interesting about out attitudes towards certain dialects, and the communities that use them.
#MLE being Multicultural London English for anyone unfamiliar with different UK accents#Colloquially referred to as a 'road man accent'#Unlike aave it is spoken by people from all different ethnic backgrounds in London#But is still heavily racialised in public perception#And as always caveat I am a white trans man and MLE is not my native dialect#So I'm approaching this subject with academic experience but not personal experience
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Please read the tags of the person I reblogged this from
fag and dyke does not mean man and woman. transmasc and transfem does not mean man and woman. guy and girl dont even mean man and woman to me anymore
#the thing is. until we fully decouple gender from cultural presumptions#which I think possibly may never happen#there are going to be archetypes that are associated with a certain gender#and some of the most fun you can have with those archetypes#is putting them on different genders than the one they stereotypically invoke#for example. I joke that Nan (one of my characters; an adult woman)#has Grill Dad energy#because she does#does this make her male? no. but she fills this archetype that we 'think of' as a male role#and I think this illuminates the way that people can be anything and are#even people who aren't trans or genderqueer can have a little gendered archetype as a treat#a man can be a princess. not in a 'ha ha babygirl make you smaller' way#but in like. a demure elegant young man who people look up to and are inspired by; who is well-spoken and sought after#similarly imagine a male empress; a male witch#there's nothing new under the sun arguably but we can always play with the blocks in ways they weren't 'meant' to go
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Tbqh the only reason why I don't write original fiction is because I don't feel confident in writing a realistic man. Which is funny because I can write men in fanfiction, but like.... Tbh, I don't think they're very realistic men either. People don't talk like men from games, manga, etc. Which I suppose someone can say, "Well if fictional men don't sound like real men, then why do you need to worry so much?" And I suppose that's a valid point. But still, regardless of how logical it is, I want to write a realistic man.
#rambles#i think i overthink it#i start diving too deep#'what does it mean to be a man?'#'what does it mean to be a woman?'#'what separates a woman from a man?'#regardless of my opinions on gender i've always spoken like a woman#before one of my online friends found out my ethnicity she thought i was a white girl from california bc i talk in a valley girl sort of way#and i think i let that bother me too much? when it comes to writing i mean#i cant talk like a guy#so if i can't talk like a guy does that mean i wont be able to write a realistic man?#but again what does it mean to be a guy? what does it mean to talk like a guy?#i already know that men are not necessarily more logical than women#and women are not necessarily more emotional than men#but still#the theres the whole psychology of men (specifically amab men)#i dont understand manly pride#i dont understand the desire to be respectedo#i dont understand the desire to protect and provide#nb and trans men may say that desire isnt built into being a man but it sure is for amab men#if you want my personal opinion that my brain believes but every other fiber of my being does not....#other than biological definitions there is no true definition to any of the two binary genders#if you believe to 'feel' like a man or a woman you are basing it purely upon the what society defines to be male and female#there is no true gender experience#you are you#and yet though i believe that i still believe that i can't write a believable man#terrible
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it’s my birthday tomorrow…
#my gma texted me ‘happy birthday tomorrow’#because texting me tomorrow is too much effort? idk man#I’m not expecting anything from my parents this year cos j is abroad and b and I haven’t spoken in a month or so#I keep forgetting lol#I’m not expecting gifts from family cos of the weddings and I’m kind of estranged now that I’m more outwardly out and trans and anti religio#and a revealing Harlot but#heyyyyyy#anyway#prophet speaks#I’m not expecting my childhood friends really because. yeah .#he gets married in a few months and I think. maybe he forgot and she I think is maybe over my random silence#it’s weird how much I still love them all and they probably just#think I ignore them or whatever but it’s#okay anyway#I’m glad I get to spend it with north#glad I work lol
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I get not understanding neopronouns. I totally understand if people with developmental or intellectual disorders need to avoid people that use them because they can't wrap their brain around them enough to use them right or find having to think about them long enough to use the right one, when they very literally are incapable of understanding, distressing. Competing access needs are a morally neutral thing that I will never judge anyone for.
But to go on to talk about how despite this you respect neopronouns EXCEPT (plain text: except) it/its? If you feel the need to clarify that you don't have an issue with most of them, but want to single people like me out specifically? Trauma is understandable, and I know people with those disorders are in particular susceptible to being referred to that way cruelly, but you can just... not mention us.
Literally everything they shared was FINE (plain: fine) up to that point. But singling us out and saying you'll never respect our pronouns specifically - when you could've just not mentioned us at all - does in fact make you an asshole. Having trauma and saying that people that identify with something that was used to hurt you means you don't have to respect them makes you an asshole. Just don't fucking mention us and avoid us like you JUST (plain: just) said you can do fine with every other neopronoun user. You do not have to sit there and list off all the reasons you will never respect us specifically!!
I/DD people have so many limitations that most people just refuse to try to understand and take seriously. If someone struggles to not talk badly about things they find upsetting or confusing because of having an I/DD then that's one thing. People upset by it can block and move on because harassing someone who cannot change is cruel. But you don't get to demonstrate and self-proclaim that you CAN (plain: can) respect and avoid and move on for other people and then turn around and go out of your way to single a specific group out and talk about how horrible their identity is and act like that's somehow acceptable.
Literally, just shut up and do not talk about us. We KNOW (plain: know) people hate our pronouns. We KNOW (plain: know) there are people who do not respect our choice to use them. We KNOW (plain: know) there are people who will just never call us by them no matter what. We don't need people fucking going out of their way to single us out while defending how they respect everyone else like us. That makes you an asshole.
#like... i know each person is unique in the severity and manifestation of their disorder#but i have the same developmental disorder they said they do!!!#and i know people can seem fine in certain areas and really struggle with others but they had just demonstrated in the exact same ask#that they are indeed capable of doing the right thing and removing themself from people they aren't compatible with#it was just straight up them feeling the need to target us because so many people feel like we're an acceptable target#and no one fucking defends us#the notes of that post was FILLED with people saying they relate and reassuring them that their limitations don't make them a bad person#(hell i even struggle similarly with certain types of neopronouns but I'm not gonna fucking single them out and insult them)#and not a single goddamn person said anything at all about their mini-rant on how we don't deserve respect#because people don't think we deserve respect#fuck man my own gender-positive friends still think it's okay to come to me and ask for forgiveness so they don't have to feel bad#for “not wanting to dehumanize” me or “feel like they're insulting” me or what have you#(despite the fact that one of their parents who's never so much as spoken to me through them is fine with it)#and i can't even tell them to get over themselves because my pronouns are about me not them#because no one would back me up on that for these pronouns specifically#any other pronouns and it wouldn't be an issue there'd be no way anyone else would let that fly#but people act like it/its is so uniquely awful that it's unfair to expect other people to respect them#so I have to comfort them and reassure them that i understand and they can just use something else :)#because it/its users aren't allowed to assert the same fucking rights as other trans people even in trans circles#and no one cares if we feel ostracized since that just means they don't have to acknowledge us#(also it's my first time trying to do plain text id stuff please lmk if there's anything i could do better)
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God there's nothing I love more than watching my brilliant, polite, well-spoken boyfriend turn into a mindless toy for me.
I love watching him relax when he plays with himself, going from embarrassed to uncaring as his body goes limp and his cock gets hard under his hand-- under my instruction. Reminding him that he's safe with me, that he can let himself feel good without shame. You don't need to think about anything but how good it feels-- you can worry about everything else later. It's not going anywhere. Right now all that matters is being my good, obedient boy.
Seeing the hazy look in his eyes as he nods lazily, his handsome voice repeating back anything I want to hear. It feels so good to listen to me, and he is such a good boy. Nothing quite like watching an intelligent man struggle to find his words between his slurred moans.
I want to play with his cunt and cock until there's nothing in his head except my name and how badly he wants to cum for me. What an honor, to have such an obedient, adoring boy like you. Cum for me, baby.
Over and over, until I say he's done. Even when it's too much, and his poor cock is aching and sensitive and twitching. He'll keep going, because he wants to be my good boy. How terribly lucky I am.
Finally, finally letting him take the toy off when he's shaking. Watching him collapse into his bed with an exhausted grin. My darling boy.
I let him stay like that, floaty and sweet and obedient until he fell asleep to my whispered praises. My good boy. You did such a good job for me. You know I love you so much. So good for me, honey. You're okay. I'm proud of you. You're all mine, and you know I'm all yours. Relax now. It'll all be there for you tomorrow. But for right now, all you need to be is my good, sweet boy. And you are.
I can't wait to do this again but with him asleep on my chest so I can run my nails down his back and play with his hair. My good boy <3
This is about gay trans men // Cishets fuck off
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Is "hijra" a slur? Contextualizing South Asian (trans)misogyny
A note on the sheer cultural diversity of the subcontinent
There is no realistic way for me to exhaustively examine the context of every South Asian transfeminized population (though believe me, I’d like to). As such, I’m going to limit my scope to India, but make a quick initial note about Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Pakistani transfeminized communities, according to my partner’s sisters who are in the community, do consider ‘hijra’ more derogatory than their Indian counterparts necessarily do and refer to themselves as part of the ‘khwaja sira’ community.
I have sadly not been able to speak to any transfeminine people from Bangladesh, but I have spoken to cis queers who have told me that they use ‘hijra’ in a manner similar to India.
If there are desi queers from those communities who would like to add their perspectives, please feel free to reblog. And for the South Asian communities I haven't mentioned (such as Sri Lanka), please feel free to add your perspectives too! I'm curious to hear from you all.
Etymology and Usage
‘Hijra’ in its meaning and usage amongst the cis is most similar to the word ‘naamard’ (NAH-murd). The ‘naa’ is prefixal, a negation akin to ‘non’, while ‘mard’ is the word for ‘man’. It is a way of unmanning a man, of calling him lacking in the essential quality of manhood, of labelling him, in spirit if not in body, impotent.
As such, you can see how it’s an implicitly third-sexing construction (even before you account for how these communities are explicitly third-sexed, denied the epistemic autonomy to be recognized as women and now third-sexed by law). When Nanda called them emasculated homosexuals, it was not far off from how Indian culture forcibly categorizes and marginalizes them.
Members of the community have told me about their frustration and anger at being referred to as such, even though the word has now become a term through which they organize the community and sometimes advocate for themselves, a political reality that does not inherently contradict their campaigns to be recognized as women, and allowed to self-ID as such. (Recall, the Indian government currently mandates legal third-sexing of the hijra: they must first obtain a “Trans Certificate” and be documented as a third sex before they initiate the process of being recognized as women—a process that is contingent on subjecting themselves to transmedicalist scrutiny and gatekeeping!)
Others, however, have pointed out to me that the term is undergoing a process of reclamation. The term ‘hijra’ has a certain degree of legibility in Indian society even as it is a pejorative with degendering and dehumanizing connotations. It is being reclaimed intracommunally, but also by allies who speak of them without the usual stigmatizing connotations that cis society has saddled the term with.
Even still, I have also been told that the manner in which cis and especially Western academics use the term in scholarship—and I’m quoting here—"makes me want to tear my skin out". The fictions of “recognized gender role in Indian society” and “oppressed only after colonialism” are further simplifications and fabrications that obfuscate the role South Asian ruling-class collaborators eagerly played in petitioning for those colonial-era laws, and ignore such easily available empirical evidence as the Manusmriti mandating punishments for anyone who sleeps with—ugh—“eunuchs”.
Conclusion
In sum, I’d liken the use of the word “hijra” as analogous to the usage of “queer” in the 90s, as a slur in the contentious, contextual process of being reclaimed. As Aruvi put it to me on Bluesky:
We cannot allow cis people to dictate the discursive and epistemic terms of transfeminine culture. At the same time, the term “hijra” still carries with it heavy baggage due to South Asian transmisogyny as well as the academic misrepresentations and epistemic extractivism that Western scholarship has subjected South Asian transfeminized demographics to.
If you want to know how best to use the term, try to do so without third-sexing, and without promulgating fictive ideas of South Asian cultures being “gender-expansive” and “recognizing more than two genders”. Erasing the marginalization of the hijra is endemic to the way the term is used in the West, and that must absolutely be combatted.
On a final, personal note, I also wish to clearly state that I do not reject the label ‘hijra’ because I consider myself essentially different from them. Many Indian (usually upper-caste) trans women wish to distance themselves from the hijra, as though reproducing our society’s disgust for them will spare them from the same fate. That is not an attitude I share, or wish to normalize. The hijra—both those who affirmatively identify with the term, and those who wish to distance themselves from it—are my sisters.
I have simply not been granted the honor of being part of the communities and kin structures, and I do not wish to appropriate their struggles out of respect. Even still, their struggles are and will always be mine.
#transfeminism#materialist feminism#gender is a regime#sex is a social construct#social constructionism#feminism#third sexing#degendering#hijrah#hijra#transmisogyny#racialized transmisogyny#academic transmisogyny#queer history#queer politics#queer studies#queer theory#transphobia#transgender#trans rights
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I hate that my father was a mega racist neo nazi type and how that reflected on me. Not only years of self hating and depression because I am Trans woman with learning difficulties who was forced into being a manly man, internalizing and failing to unpack everything properly until I hurt people around me and in my community.
I have not spoken to him in half a decade now but the trauma and bigoted leftovers from being raised in my dad's fascist demands of who I have to be as his "first born son, his own flesh and blood" it just fucked me up and i still feel less than a human at times.
My point isn't to blame my dad on the times I hurt other Trans women on this website on my dad but to say, that being a victim and perpetrator are not exclusive, the system of abuse and bigotry raises bigoted and abused people who perpetuate that behavior and I would like to thank other Trans women and queers of color for speaking sense into me even if it really wasn't pleasant being told I'm a fucking moron.
I'm sorry, I'm trying and I will not let my past define me.
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If you’re intersex and your relationship to being trans and/or cis is complicated, that’s okay.
Perisex people, trans or cis, have no say in how an intersex person experiences their intersex variation in context with their sex and gender identity.
So many intersex people have complicated and nuanced relationships to sex and gender.
Many of us will go from having experiences that are close to trans ones to having experiences that are closer to cis ones. Or vice versa, or transmasc experiences to transfem, or literally any other combination. And these experiences may impact identity. I’ve spoken to intersex people who have stopped identifying as trans, who have gone from identifying as transfem to transmasc, who have begun identifying as transfemmasc, who have stopped identify as transfemmasc and started identifying exclusively as transfem.
A perisex person screaming that you can only be a woman or a man, trans or cis, if you have X, Y, or Z trait is a bigot.
You’re allowed to be yourself and use the words that best describe your own life.
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Doesn't happen 24/7 or anything but sometimes when I make posts about Grunkle Stan being trans people get a bit "tee hee a misogynist trans man, what an absurd situation" about it and it's like
I can sort of understand where the bewilderment comes from if you haven't spoken to or encountered very many trans men. But trans men are just people. And people can be anything
Including people a lot worse than beloved kids cartoon misogynist Grunkle Stan
Even besides the fact that plenty of women can be misogynist in their own right, you kind of have to examine if you think maybe trans men are all raised the same way or all have the same experiences and personalities from being born "female"
I know this is sort of a weird thing to talk about, but I just think it doesn't hurt to re-examine if you view trans men as people, who can behave in any sort of way or hold any belief - Or if you just view us as some separate thing, who have an assumed immutable set of personalities and beliefs they can hold.
Even if the context that forces this examination is silly cartoon trans headcanons.
#Did any of that make sense at all#It's just something that rubs me the wrong way#not to mention its a dangerous assumption- theres plenty of trans men out there who are just terrible#and the ones who are - are exactly the kind of person who will try to convince you they cant POSSIBLY be because of their trans status
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