#speaking: peter pan

[nero-neptune]

“I had to, in a scene when I fell out of the tree, I was talking to Captain Hook, right, and all this evil stuff. And he does not know what I am saying ... And it’s really funny because I’m saying all this stuff and it can’t be just ‘no’.”

carsen gray as tiger lily | peter pan (2003) dir. p.j. hogan

[fedorah-the-explorah]

im getting you started.

Bro, the timeline in Carmen Sandiego is super finicky, and I'm pretty sure I've spent more time thinking about this than the creators intended us to, but WHATEVER. It haunts me.

Right, so the creators said Carmen is 20 at the start of the series, but as I said: that math don't math!

Season one takes place over the course of six months:

Season 2 picks up one week after season 1, in February. We know this because they're celebrating Carnival.

For the purpose of breaking down this theory, I'm going to place Carmen's birthday as March 1st, her WOEICs counterpart's official birthday.

So. At the end of season one, which would have been mid-February, Player says something about how Carmen was found on the side of the road twenty years ago, but if her birthday was in a mere matter of weeks, couldn't you theorize that he was rounding up? Maybe she's 19 turning 20.

Or, maybe, she's 20 turning 21? No!

At the end of season 2, Shadowsan says he found her twenty years ago. This is where we take a detour to discuss infant development.

In the flashbacks, we see that baby Carmen prefers crawling-- she can toddle a little bit, but not well. Children typically begin standing between 7 and 12 months, and walking between 10 and 18 months. We also see that she babbles and coos a lot, but no words. Children tend to say their first word at around 12 months. Based on this, I'd wager that baby Carmen was around seven or eight months old. We know she's a physical prodigy, so she could potentially be even younger-- the youngest recorded baby to walk was six months old.

Placing baby at 7 months when she was kidnapped, that makes Shadowsan's "I found you twenty years ago" accurate to the month. At this point, Carmen is 20 years and 7 months old.

Season three takes place in October/November. Presumably, season three picks up right after season two, putting the end of season two in October. It spans about the same length as season one.

While the word of the creators doesn't have much bearing here-- as this post is very much a "you guys are wrong and here's why" kind of post-- one of the creators did say that they imagined Carmen as being twenty by season three. That would make it impossible for her to have been twenty during season one. Too much time has passed for that to work.

Season 4 takes place sometime around February. We know this because Devineaux asks Gray what he was doing on the train to Poitiers 18 months ago. 12 months ago would have been February (start of season 2) and six months before that is August. That's eighteen months.

Going by this, I think Carmen was yoinked just after her twenty-first.

Interestingly, if my math is mathing-- and who knows, I turned a two year degree into a three year degree because I kept failing math classes, I could be talking actual nonsense right now-- this makes Player like 17/18 by season four, and that's hilarious to me because that means his parents (tried) to make him go to school for like the last semester of his senior year. Free my boy 😭

In conclusion, Carmen is 19 at the start of season one, she and Player are three years apart, and Player's parents are some cruel mfers. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[jester-lover]

He is so fine and nobody talks about it

Like…maybe being stuck on neverland isn’t that bad🤷‍♀️…

I’m planning headcanons rn

[roodllle]

[leoisbabygirl]

Descendants oc

Name: Perry Pan

Gender: Nonbinary

Father: Peter Pan & Wendy Darling

Home: Neverland

School: Merlin Academy

Ship: James Hook & Morgie Le Fay

Sexuality: Poly

Interests: Fencing

Dislikes: Ella's snobby attitude towards villains

Face claim: Sadie Sink

[kaythefloppa]

Ever think about how both Peter and Tink just fucking went through it when something very specific and crucial to their very way of life is denied to them (Peter getting his shadow stolen and being unable to fly/be happy, which can easily be seen as an allegory for depression, especially amongst children, ESPECIALLY neurodivergent children feel very free to debate with me on that I'm not claiming anything is canon just projecting/saying, and Jane not believing in faries which literally fucking KILLS Tink).

I know ppl joke about Neverland being.... hell (especially with the original book in mind) but you do wonder how much of a fucking purgatory does a place have to be where if the lack of belief towards one, or the loss of a quasi-physical attachment to you that is completely removable [sentient or not] is enough to basically make Never Land's equivalent of God [and/or/who is probably the goddamn island itself] give you the biggest proverbial middle finger since Shakespeare to 90% of his fictional characters.

[marshmellowtea]

i'm a jonathan apologist in a "he was absolutely an asshole during ppgw but tbf hearing another guy say he's in love with your girlfriend live onstage in front of an audience who are also seeing you get constantly humiliated and injured would be kind of a lot so i get it and i don't think he's that bad most of the time" way. he absolutely deserved that slap from sandra though <3

[candyfloss-esophagus]

The knowledge that his hands are a little heavier, his fingers are a little more elongated, and his nails are a little sharper doesn’t strike Hobie necessarily, but more sinks in softly, like blunt canine teeth in flayed flesh. He shuts his eyes; opens them again. Still the same room. Same light. Same hands. Must be a dream. That’s how dreams work, right? Peter’s still breathing beside him. His nose crinkles in his sleep and he shifts, rolling over so he faces the wall with his back exposed to the room. A little hand wraps itself around Hobie’s heart and squeezes. “He loves us,” a voice whispers. It’s the scratching of nails over mouldering wood and the whisper of rats’ tails through layers of dust and the sweet decay of flesh in a hot summer field. If Hobie shuts his eyes and concentrates, he can feel the sharp prickles from the beheaded wheat stems. “I know,” he says. “If anything were to come through that door right now, we’d kill it for him,” the voice continues, as though Hobie hasn’t spoken. Peter’s leg twitches in his sleep. “I know,” Hobie repeats.

sneak preview for the third chapter of my latest fic, crying wolf!

Edit: third chapter has been posted!

[seaworthee]

yeah ykw i am struck by how ridiculous and spooky daemon’s harrenhall plot is, and rhaenyra has essentially the same conflict as her teenage son. every episode im excited for what spooky witch nonsense is going down in harrenhall and bored by rhaenyra yapping in rooms. it’s like she’s stuck in the ‘girls can do anything boys can do’ period of her youth. i liked hearing her name how her upbringing wasn’t suited for leadership but it’s also been three episodes of rhaenyra walking around like “men dont take me seriously :(“

[starg1rlxx]

first post and coming out as the #1 Peter stan 💜

[seapearlgoddess]

Listen, I didn’t hate Starboy before but now I absolutely do. Why is he dominating the Disney Wish tag more than the ACTUAL. FUCKING. PROTAGONIST???? Why are we giving more attention to the fucking concept character more than the actual BLACK FEMALE lead???? This is getting so ridiculous!

[27-royal-teas]

the parallels of pete signing a lot of his livejournals off as ‘peterpan’ and the desire to run away and never grow old, stay young forever. the 27 club, which had artists dying young. the pressures put on celebrities in the media’s eye to stay youthful, full of life, famous too young but unmarketable in their thirties, and how pete wanted to get away from all of that. the boy who never grew up finally grew up I guess

[atlantic-riona]

full offense but if you write a book about Neverland or Peter Pan and have there be a romance between Wendy and Hook I am sending you outside to consider your crimes. don't bother coming back inside until you repent

[ishouldbedoingalright]

peter pan goes wrong. amazing, brilliant, show-stopping.

[rekikyan]

who is going to make the peter edit to the deleted scene from peter pan (2003) where peter comes back to a grown up wendy

[zerodaryls]

can't find anything from this movie on tumblr and it's been tugging at my nostalgic bones all day. truly one of the most underrated disney films imo.