#so a relationship can be both alterous and queer platonic but it can also be one or the other

[estbela]

Also that reminds me. In my hetaverse, when Wallachia(aka past Ro) & Moldavia(not Moldova) unite to form the United Principalities they aren't really married but like. Act like they are for the funsies. I think they probably even have a pretend cerenomy lol. Its more complicated than that tho

[starmahgalaxies]

I can't; they're adorable.

I know it's not the Dark Ocean, and it's just how Piemon's realm is shaped (almost wanted to put coded, and yeah that works too), but O M G this looks so DREARY.

While the concept of the Dark Ocean isn't really fully formed until 02, I will note now (since I didn't really get good shots of it), that when both Yamato and Sora are caught up in their trauma and expectations, they are shown to be underwater.

Also yay silly paddle boat back.

Child trying really hard to put on a brave face when he knows something is bothering his friend, and he knows he has to be the cheerful optimistic kid. Doesn't help that they're looking for his brother.

Sora, my girl, have some faith in yourself and your friends.

You're. Doing. Great. Chin up!

These kids are so insecure I just want to give them all a massive hug. Yamato, if that was the case you would have not went to life-threatening lengths just to keep him safe. Reflections are good-- thought spirals toward doom are not. Trust Takeru to take care of himself, and we're good.

See? Admitting you're jealous is a good start! ahh, these kids make me want to pull my hair out.

Gabumon continuing the noble crusade of trying to give his partner some confidence and self-esteem back.

NGL, I laughed so hard. Context: My dog had bitten earlier in the week accidentally, and I was on antibiotics. Being reminded of it made me laugh, and it was a good release of tension because this scene was heavy. I was drowning.

(My dog and I are both fine. This was maybe a month, month and a half ago now when I watched this.)

Honestly, a sign of true friendship and trust is respecting when it comes to an end even as it rips your heart into itty, bitty pieces.

Crying is a good release of energy!

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I like when darkness is often a representation of loneliness. I think it's a largely a cultural thing, as Digimon isn't the only place I've noticed it, but it is the first. Western media is much more moralistic (in my experience).

Yup, I can't. *drowns*

Jou: *exhausted* Yay, I finally caught up with you. 😁

Good, good. Keep reinforcing your resolve and bring a positive impact on each other.

*clenches teeth* You're. Doing. Great.

I would make a comment on how you can't make overgeneralizing promising like that, but this is too cute so you get a pass.

Little Patamon going "aw yay!" with me.

I am unsure how long Yamato and Gabumon were here, but I get the impression it was a lot longer than we saw. They separated from the group ages ago. Piyomon has not yet resorted to physical violence to try to get Sora's attention. I wouldn't recommend that option, anyway. My point more is I have faith Piyomon could have gotten Sora out but is not yet desperate enough. It helps that Sora was looking for Yamato, so it makes sense her friends she was looking for are the ones to snap her out of it. Harder to be gloom about finding someone in time who is right in front of you.

I did have an underwater shot after all! To continue Yamato and Jou helping Sora out, they are essentially showing how to instill hope in Sora-- in front of Takeru. Child just watching and unknowingly collecting everyone's hopes and learning to never give up. We're so close... one more episode.

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Everyone's happy faces.

Do not doubt how much trust someone has in you when they have faith in you to protect someone they are overprotective over... even if he is acting like an idiot.

Is this a good time to say I think the dominant attraction between these two is alterous (mix of platonic and romantic)? No? Oh well, I just did lmao.

Does that mean I ship them? Not really. Not even for a queerplatonic relationship. Shoving all relationships in a box (including the outside definitions qpr)... nah.

I do however think all fusion / Jogress partners are QPP (queer platonic partners).

Or... you can... not? Either don't at all or get it done quickly. You're setting up possibilities for failure. Pinocchimon ran out of bullets, and you'll fall on your back too.

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This episode. GOD THIS EPISODE! This is such a rollercoaster. I want to hug everybody so much. All of them shouldering so much responsibility. I made note before that Sora and Yamato suffer under the most strain for their self-worth, and how that may reflect that their Crests being relationship based instead of internal traits. That still holds up. I believe (at least my best guess) is that is part of the reason why they're set up together in the future. It can be a compelling character growth for two people who suffer with connections and self-esteem to carry themselves out, together. That doesn't need to be a romantic, but I'm also aromantic af. This is the episode I think of when thinking of those two (not to discount Jou at all). Also Yamato talking about Sora before "if she wants to cry, then let her" and yet being afraid to show the same emotion himself. I wish they did something with it, but I digress.

Real MVPs are Gabumon, running the gauntlet trying to get Yamato back, and WarGreymon, trying not to get killed and protecting the rest of the kids. Massive props. Their kids may be idiots, but they have stuff on lock.

NEXT EPISODE AN ANGEL OF HOPE IS BORN!! ...FINALLY!

[aromanticmina]

The 5 common questions people have about aplatonics

so, I've seen so many blogs on the aplatonic tag having to answer the same questions over and over again, so I figured I could make a list so that people can have an easier time getting to the answers they are looking for! (and apl people can just link back to this post if they're asked one of this questions, if they want to)

What does aplatonic mean?

Aplatonic is a term that refers to the lack of (or experiencing little) platonic attraction or platonic love, it can also mean having trouble forming platonic relationships due to trauma or being neurodivergent.

2. Does that mean aplatonic people don't have friends?

Not necessarily, there are aplatonic people who don't (desire to) have friends or wouldn't label any relationship they have as friendship (even though, to an outsider, some would seem as one), for numbers of reasons.

However, there are some aplatonic people who do have friends, but they're not really close to them/don't feel love for them.

love and care are different things, you can care for someone and want the best for them even when you're not close enough to them to love them.

3. But if aplatonic people don't have friends, does that mean they don't socialize with anyone?

Nope! friendships aren't the only way you can socialize with people. Family, classmates, coworkers, lovers, neighbors, those are all people you have have nice conversations with!

4. Are all aplatonics also aromantic?

Not all of them, while it's true that there are a lot of people who are both aro and apl (see: me), there are aplatonics who are alloromantic (feel romantic attraction) or just don't label their romantic orientation.

(fun fact, the original coiner of the aplatonic label is an alloromantic asexual!)

5. Are all aplatonics also loveless?

Again, not all of them, there is a great overlap between the aplatonic and loveless community (shout out to my loveless apls!), but not all aplatonics identify as loveless.

Some love in a romantic way, familiar way, alterous way (if you don't know what alterous attraction is, I recommend looking it up!) or just in a completely unique but ultimately queer way (hi, it's me, I'm lovequeer).

I still don't really get it...

That's okay, you don't have to understand something to respect it, if you're still curious and want to learn more about us, there are multiple blogs on the #aplatonic tag sharing their different experiences with aplatonicism, you just have to know where to look!

And remember! the Aspec includes the aplatonic spectrum, you can't say you support aspecs if you don't support aplatonic people as well!

[qprsmackdown]

propaganda (under the readmore):

BENCHTRIO PROPAGANDA:

My friend wrote a fanfiction detailing their platonic relationship from childhood friends to spouses. It is over 1 million words long. Pls he needs this

my good friend sunny wrote over 1million words of fanfiction about them that was so good it permanently altered my brain chemistry. also i think the feat of over 1mil words is worth the win (:

Ranboo and Tubbo are canonically married, semi-canonically platonically so. Tubbo and Tommy have known each other for years, and have an understanding of each other that no one else does. Tommy and Ranboo went through a very awkward and begrudging beginning of their friendship, but Ranboo would go on to make Tommy's grave when he died.

I want to start off by stressing that these 3 are characters and are not at all connected to the real world creators that portrayed them aside from having the same name.

c!Ranboo and c!Tubbo were canonically married, with the nature of their marriage being largely ambiguous and up for interpretation! They live together in a mansion with their adopted child, Michael, a tiny baby piglin! c!Tommy was never an official part of their marriage, but the three spent so much time together(before the series' writing took a very unfortunate turn due to behind the scenes stuff) that they might as well have been a qpr polycule! It is confirmed that c!Ranboo(an 8'5 foot tall enderman hybrid) can only look 2 people directly in the eyes with it being STRONGLY implied those 2 people were c!Tommy and c!Tubbo! Their relationship didn't get as much time as it needed due to the series's unfortunate downturn near the end, but while it was there, it was a very comforting, very tender relationship between 3 traumatized young queer teens who were their for one another through their journeys in healing from their various traumas. Also one time c!Tommy and c!Ranboo got high together in a tiny smoke box they made(they also met when Ranboo hit him on the head with a giant flower. An allium, to be specific!).

MAJORWOOD PROPAGANDA:

i went so insane about them they spawned inside my brain, guys ever

They are the Mean Gills and they are canonically qpr!! They would also canonically die for each other

Canon QPR! Confirmed by cc!Martyn :D (he confirmed it on stream after the series ended)

They're canonically a QPR guys!!!! Both the CC's who play the characters have said that they see them as being in a QPR!!!!!! literally the first time ever i've seen any media ever portray a qpr of some sort

someone in Martyn's chat explained what a QPR was and he said "oh that sounds like me and Scott"

[syndromestatic]

Something I’ve been thinking about… because of recent moominous events & also the classes I’m taking:

Queer artistry is so so special. & when a queer artist creates something, it resonates with other queer people. The art becomes inherently queer. I think it could probably be debated if all art made by a queer person is, necessarily, queer- separation of art and artist and all that- but at least I think that’s the case.

The question is: does this remain the case after the artist is gone and their art is altered? You probably see where I’m going with this. We think of these characters as inherently queer because of their long and storied history, but at the same time, we know that Moominvalley has changed these characters, too. I’m not going to definitively state that they’re made… not queer, because I don’t believe that to be fully true, but if fundamental aspects of their character and how we perceive it can be changed, can their queerness be so as well? And if the queerness is not erased, then what is it? tamped down? undermined? mishandled?

& Maybe this is the point where you go “okay static it’s not that deep” but I really do think it is! Moominvalley 2019 mishandles a lot of things, i daresay even skirts around the queerness of itself without fully leaving it out. Here is my main case: If they were going to be more explicit with Moomin and Snufkin’s queercoding, that very much should have been followed through with. & let’s speak on how much Moominvalley played around with and constantly changed the nature of Snorkmaiden and Moomin’s romantic relationship with little to no actual explanation or context? Guys I don’t know. It’s odd, it’s weird, and it certainly doesn’t sit right with me.

To me, Season 3 left off in a place where Snufkin and Moomin’s relationship was at it’s tipping point between romantic and platonic- the season literally ends with them arm and arm- And that’s why season 4 falls flat in the demonstration of their relationship. I never expected season 4 to deliver on that front in the first place- by season 2 I felt that the Moomin/Snufkin moments were heavy handed and a bit too forced to be completely natural, and I knew it wasn’t about to become explicitly canon in the first place because Moomin and Snufkin never have been- but to me it’s about follow through and writing, and the fact they were dropping such obnoxious hints only for that tension to be dropped last season feels like both a cop-out, and perhaps even intentional.

The contemporary Moomin boom occurred in 2019, in the wake of the series. Shippers went wild. absolutely nuts. If Moomin has no fans, the world is dead, but this definitely contributed to a spike in viewership. and listen. Season 1 had its flaws but if every season onwards was of the same quality, and each season included the snufmin subtext only as much as season 1, I would not be upset right now. I do, in fact, believe, that the queer fanbase of this show was teased and strung along with the Moomin/Snufkin relationship. And I think the way it was handled in season 4 was due to the fact that they wouldn’t need that part of the show to, excuse my terminology, bait viewers along because it was the last season. Obviously this is all speculation, but I really don’t think it’s all that unlikely. And I’m not even saying that it’s strictly the writers’ fault, but I think there was someone in power who let the queer shit- the shit was was just obvious enough to give young queer viewers fuel- pass by for as long as it was useful, but by no means could the show surpass a certain limit.

Ahem anyways I love Moomins and I dislike Moominvalley 2019… for many reasons but also for this… sorry for incoherencies, typos, the like.

[taxi-boi]

the vees are so funny because you know val would say some aphobic shit like "what do you MEAN someone can form meaningful bonds that transcend sex and even romance but especially sex. what do you MEAN not everyones lives revolve around fucking and sucking or atleast like loving if your into that shit"  (romance nuetral arospec allosexual)

meanwhile his on again off again boytoy fuckpartner vox has never truly been sexually attracted to anyone in his life (high libido sex positive ace demi-aro with a propensity for alterous attraction *cough one-sided radiostatic cough*)

and the both of them are in a commited platonic/business relationship with velvette who has absolutely no sexual or romantic interest in either of them (idk if shes a lesbian or aspec or bi and they're just not her type in that way; but its all the same result)

and yet none of them view their partnership as anything below or lesser than compared to the romantic and sexual relationships they do have. if not outright being more important than those (QPR-cule) 

and ofcourse vox and vel will be standing right alongside valentino as he says this, nodding along without a hint of sarcasm or self awareness because they also genuinely think they believe the same thing.

and if you try to point this out to any of them (and somehow convince them that what they have going on is queer platonic and aspec in nature) they'll just be like "yeah but we're The Vees, we're overlords, we can just do whatever the Fuck (or lack there of) we want" and you know what they're right

[pass1onepr1ncess]

I need everyone to look me in the eye and explain to me with no bullshit why they think that Diavolo x Doppio is proship. Abusive and/or toxic? Potentially- still not proship. And I swear to God if your only reasoning for this is that they're alters in the same body and/or in the same system I need you to sit down right in front of me, better yet lay down and listen to me very carefully.

Being in the same body/system does not equate to being related in any way. I've seen people say that "Doppio and Diavolo are brothers!" No they're not. They're two alters in a system. Similarly, I've seen other people say that - and this is even stranger because where they got this from I have no clue- Diavolo is also Doppio's dad like he's Trish's. No, he's not. They're alters in a system. Even if we go based on canon and throw fanon and headcannons out the window, their relationship outside of being the Boss and his right-hand man is never specified. Literally all we have to go on is that Doppio is comforted by Diavolo's presence and that Diavolo refers to him almost exclusively with words of endearment. This could be platonic, sure. Familial? Possible, but highly unlikely.

I'm not saying that alters in a system can't be related. The alters that our brains cook up can be anything, and familial relationships between alters is a thing. But specifically in the case of Diavolo and Doppio, this is never stated. Therefore, while you are allowed to headcanon them as such, do not force that headcanon onto others when it's not true in the source media.

And if you think that DiaDop is proship because it's an in-system relationship, buddy do I have news for you. Alters have in-system relationships all the time. I, myself, am in an in-system relationship with the Sheila E in our system. Another friend of ours has an in-system relationship in their system. System friends that I knew before that we don't talk to anymore had in-system relationships, and I've seen other systems online talk about their own in-system relationships.

If your only problem with DiaDop is that they're in the same body/system, I can only assume you're a singlet and to that I say:

Fuck off. If you don't know enough about how systems work, you don't get to make that decision. Especially if the decision in question is accusing a harmless ship of being incestuous or pedophilic. Which- by the way- they're both adults! It would be a different story if one of them were underage even in the same system, but they are both grown ass adults! Even with the changes in their body between them fronting, Doppio is described to be a young adult!

And lastly, if your only other reason for accusing DiaDop of being proship is because you don't like it and have some need to justify that dislike? I think you need to do some introspection. I mean this in the best possible way, but if you feel like you have to justify your discomfort for something as small as a pairing of fictional characters, you might want to look in the mirror and ask yourself why that's the case. Especially if you're going to the lengths of accusing that fictional pairing of being proship.

This whole next bit is gonna be my personal thoughts- but might I just add that the whole thing of Doppio's comfort in Diavolo's presence or on "calls" with him and Diavolo calling him "My Sweet Doppio" and other such things really feels to me like implied romance. Especially in the only Jojo part (other than SBR) with canonical queer representation (SquaTizi and Sorlato), it's a bit hard to ignore, in my opinion!

Anyway, I've seen people be weird about DiaDop for a while now and I was just gonna hold my tongue, but the more I thought about why they would think that the more I realized that it's all singlets who just don't understands systems and assume they can talk for all of us. It pissed me off, so here I am.

If there's any reason to call DiaDop proship that I haven't debunked, please enlighten me. But otherwise? Shut up.

[alterous]

Alterous FAQ

What does alterous mean?

The original coining post has been lost to time so far as I know. According to the surviving coining post (submitted by the now deactivated user schizotypal-scully/f1shcrime, posted by arospecawarenessweek on January 18th, 2015), this is what alterous means (bolding theirs):

alterous - experiences attraction that can only be described as a desire for emotional closeness because neither romantic or platonic attraction is accurate*

is intended to be used in place of romantic or platonic. for example someone may identify as bi-alterous, poly-alterous, homo-alterous, etc.

*note: a person who IDs this way may experience varying degrees of attraction that is identifiable as romantic or platonic but ultimately feel discomfort / unease / or just a sense of inaccuracy in calling it wholly romantic or platonic 

How do I use alterous as a word?

Alterous is an adjective, meaning it is a descriptor for a noun. One is in an alterous relationship and experiences alterous feelings.

It may also be used as an orientation suffix, such as heteroalterous, homoalterous, or bialterous.

How is alterous different than queerplatonic?

The majority of this information on queerplatonic is thanks to this genealogy timeline by The Ace Theist.

Queerplatonic in the sense we know it was first referred to as "a deep (almost symbiotic in some ways) emotional connection that transcends what [the author] think[s] of as friendship" by meloukhia in the comments of a dreamwidth post on December 25th, 2010, predating alterous by about four years.

This person also posted about queerplatonic on tumblr in January 22, 2011:

Queerplatonic is a word for describing relationships where an intense emotional connection transcending what people usually think of as ‘friendship’ is present, but the relationship is not romantic in nature; people in a queerplatonic relationship may think of themselves as partners, may plan on spending their lives together, etc. The 'queer’ is a reference to the idea of queering relationships and ideas about relationships, not for describing the orientations or genders of anyone in a queerplatonic relationship. Anyone, sexual or asexual, romantic or aromantic, straight, gay, queer, bi, lesbian, poly, cis, trans, etc etc can be in a queerplatonic relationship, can have more than one such relationship, and there can be more than two people in a queerplatonic relationship; couples, triads, quads, whatever. The key feature is the idea of being deeply connected to someone, without a romantic element (though a queerplatonic relationship can be sexual).

Based on the definitions as they were originally put forth by the coiners, both alterous and queerplatonic involve intense emotional connection/closeness and attraction that is neither romantic nor platonic. The major difference is that queerplatonic places an emphasis on queering relationships and ideas about relationships, while alterous does not.

Is alterous only for LGBT+ people?

No. Nothing in the surviving alterous coining post indicates that alterous is only for LGBT+ people.

Doesn't alterous mean "between" romantic and platonic?/Doesn't alterous mean "more than" platonic but "less than" romantic?

While some people do use alterous to mean feelings that are between or a mixture of romantic and platonic, the phrasing of between and more than/less than unnecessarily create both a binary and a hierarchy between romantic and platonic feelings.

These understandings prescribe that romance is on one end of a pole, higher in value, while platonic relationships are at the other end on the bottom, of lesser value.

Alterous relationships are not halfway in the middle between these relationships, nor are alterous and platonic relationships to be valued below romantic relationships. We contend here that alterous and platonic relationships can be just as, if not more, important that romantic relationships.

Is my experience considered alterous?

Possibly! If it feels like neither romantic nor platonic fully describe your experience and experience a want for emotional closeness, then yes, that can be considered alterous!

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[sassytail]

lovely turn around time between "I think my overall relationship psychology was permanently altered by a piece of fiction" and "I forgot how to communicate the concept of queer platonic relationships". maybe commit to a thought once in a while

Maybe both can be true at once anon? Those thoughts don’t exactly contradict each other you know?

Perhaps it was permanently altered, and perhaps it wasn’t, and I simply came across my peers in that community and we bonded over a shared term that was slightly to the left of a real documented relationship that people outside the fandom also experience, and after posting, through the replies of my wonderful friends and followers, was reminded that those words for my experiences also exist and, realistically as an adult, how I got to that point matters less in the long run.

Maybe the original fear that sparked that post-that I was some kind of unlovable freak bc I read a comic as a teenager-was an irrational fear borne of anxiety that the girl I was kind of asking out was going to say no bc she made fun of me for a webcomic I felt really impacted my life at a formative age. And mayyyyyyyyybe, holy shit??? I realized that when I calmed down and put aside the idea.

And maybe I’ve been posting through surgery recovery, and not every thought is a winner right now. More so than usual.

Who knows! Certainly not you, a guy taking time out of their day to send really just unnecessarily rude messages to a stranger on the internet abt how wrong I am about homestuck relationships.

[goobie-goo]

im gonna send the character cast rq uhhmm ye

resistance

dallas (you know this guy!!! this dude!!!)

Alibi - The Jester/“Zinnia”. all pronouns. literally,, when i was thinking of the identities to give xym, i just wrote down “whoops! all gender” and i think that says a lot about rot. trans, nonbinary, pangender, pansexual, asexual, panromantic. AuDHD (autism + ADHD).

heavily implied to be in a relationship with dallas during walls arc and up to their death in the wilds arc. its all i think about. however idk how to define it. idk if theyd be in a queer-platonic relationship (which is the only one i’d give bc im projecting onto dallas and dallas is the same flavor of aroace i am). i also feel like they wouldnt use a label. theyd just be like “we are best friends. we would live for each other. we would die for each other.” maybe some kind of alterous attraction but i wouldnt know— im quoiromantic/nebularomantic (aromantic microlabels). so since i cant think of it, its just gonna be like unlabeled but Its There and its FUCKING OBVIOUS LMAO (it gets worse when i imagine the scene of: alibi bleeding out in dallas’ arms as they scream for a medic among the screaming crowd, trying not to get trappled by people scrambling for safety from the royal forces. dallas is applying pressure to the wound like skip told them. why isn’t it working? why is it not working—?!) (dallas just turned 16 two months ago. alibi was only 3 months older.)

they wouldnt actually have their title of The Jester unless i tweak some things bc those titles are from the rebellion arc, which alibi had already died and wouldnt be there for. the flower titles do have meanings though. theyre from my floriography book, i can pull it out and share if you like?

it’s legal name is charlemane, but they actually don’t mind it. dallas would call them charlie in serious moments.

Asmodae - The Shield/“Cypress”. legal name: raelynn marie hellings. she/her. cis, lesbian. autism.

largely inspired by astrid from HTTYD! the badass-ness!! the take no shit!! the snark!!! while still being kind!! aaHHABAHHS! now that i think about it, also a lil bit of natasha vibes.

they are always down to fight and WILL fuck you up. they are the protector. they are the one to confront the bully and be like “what did you say about my sibling?!”

Juno - The Dahlia. legal name: june absidee goldborne. they/she/fae. genderfae. idk their romantic + sexual orientation actually— i didnt think about it. autistic *vine boom* adhd *vine boom* anxiety *3 fast vine booms*. hispanic— one parent is something similar to mexican except mexico doesnt exist in this fictional world. i dont have a world map made. the walled-in city doesnt even have a name 😭 has either/both POTS or EDS (cant decide). uses forearm crutches and sometimes a wheelchair!

hella good sniper. the long range fighter of the group. fae is very sweet and hyper-empathetic. instead of being shy, they’re just awkward (relatable)

she’s also known as The Black Dahlia. can unassemble and reassemble a gun in *really fast time idk i dont touch guns*. mercenaries wish they were as good as them when it came to guns.

Skip - “Clematis”. legal name: silas (no last name made). he/him. cis, bisexual. autistic.

THE OLDER BROTHER YOU WISH YOU HAD. THAT I WISH I HAD. AUGH. (RIP skip actually imagine getting tortured— huh what? did i say something? :3)

he jokes around a lot, hes snarky, hes sassy, hes sarcastic, hes caring, hes protective, hes— *chokes on air*

hes the one that gave dallas the name/title striker. hes the adult that believed in dallas (older by like,, 7 or so years i think)

The Family/The Eyes

dallas!!! wooah!!

Aji (ahgee - ă-jē) - The Apogee. any pronouns. literally agender. panromantic asexual. AuDHD.

it normally takes the form of a human teenager or child. xey are older than one could imagine, as they were created when the first world came to fruition.

many actually have a betting pool on how old she is. none of them are winning.

he is very parental tbh -> “no. no, aji. we can’t take in another kid.” “BUT LOOOOKKKKK! THEY WERE ABANDONED AS A SACRIFICE TO THEIR MORTAL GODS— CMONNNNN PLEASEEEE *puppy dog eyes*” “ugh fineeeee”

seraphina! nicknamed sheriff by dallas (seraph said weird). she/they. panromantic lesbians.

as i mentioned, their backstory is dallas’ OG one— er,, a few details of it.

backstory ->

she was like. an amalgamation tbh. mostly human but has enough elf genes to perform minor spells. but then was kidnapped and was experimented on and grew wings when she was still alive. (they stuck into her death and then her ascension where she grew a total of 6 wings. thats the common wing amount for those in The Syzygy.)

there was a trafficking ring for people who were experimented on. she was one of the only older kids in the ring (that survived) so they were babysitting and im :[[[ aWHg my heart

she was sold to a wealthy rich man. the angel from original poem. the angel that saved them is Apogee? probably. or one of the Five. (these are the details from the poem) (since writing the notes ive decided its most likely aji or dallas)

Memphis. they/she/he/it. agender + pansexual. AUTISMM BRR BRR BRRR where da hoes at (/ref)

no backstory or anything theyre still new but OhhOho My goD tehyre. zjsnsjsnntheyre so pretyt theyr Hot- theyre AHHWHSB /p.

RAHHHHHHHHH

these guys look SOO COOL!!!!!!! i want to befriend tgem ALL……….. im obsessed with aji’s design :000000

i want to give them all a big ol hug

[azalea-bee]

pride asks !!! 1, 2, 13, 14, 17 for any and all of your ocs 👀 (feel free to leave any out if that’s too many !!)

!!! hi :D ok ok this may get long hehe. also i have picrews of all of them here or in my oc stuff tag in case anyone wants to know what these guys look like :]

1. What's your oc's gender identity? What's their relationship to their gender?

emrys- cis guy, he/him! …but don’t ask him to think abt his gender too hard bc there might be a little bit of egg-cracking going on that he is not even slightly ready to confront yet :’)

cassia- uses she/he pronouns and is nonbinary! he really enjoys presenting androgynously and getting the confused “ma’am? i mean sir? ma’am??” treatment from strangers

micah- genderqueer and uses they/them pronouns exclusively :] their identity is very important to them and they think a lot abt how they want to present themselves and what to wear every day, doesn’t always understand how people like winnie can be so casual and unconcerned about it haha

winnie- doesn’t think abt gender much at all, would call herself a girl/woman if asked but uses she/they pronouns and wouldn’t be fussed abt it if someone used any other pronouns on her

dove- cis woman, she/her pronouns! she enjoys being hyperfeminine in a cis+ kind of way though, inspired a bit by drag.

2. What's your oc's orientation? (Romantic/sexual/platonic alterous ect) Do they have opinions about it?

emrys- pansexual! it took him forever to admit but he’s cool with it now, finally. as for romance i think he’s panromantic too, he falls for people very easily and it always embarrasses him

cassia- she’s demisexual/demiromantic :] sometimes she only feels romantic OR sexual attraction for someone though, it doesn’t always translate into both just bc he’s close enough to feel something for a person

micah- bisexual! i think they’re somewhere on the aromantic spectrum too, but it’s too confusing and inconsistent for them to feel confident labeling themselves that way yet

winnie- not too into labels, she just calls herself queer :] her opinions are that she loves whoever she loves and it doesn’t really matter to her what their gender or identity is

dove- lesbian! in my head she’s a biromantic lesbian but doesn’t really tell people that unless it’s relevant, she prefers the lesbian label

13. Would your oc be open to a poly relationship? Why or why not?

yes all of them are to some extent! this group of ocs is actually all in a poly relationship :] it’s not all equal or the same type of love between each of them, they all have different kinds of relationships with every person, if that makes sense? but in my head they’re a closed poly group and generally very happy together :D

14. Do you have ocs on the aro or ace spectrum?

yep micah! but like i said they don’t necessarily use that label yet. and cassia is on the ace spectrum, since he’s demisexual :]

17. Do you share identity with any of your ocs? Which ones?

yes! micah is the closest, bc i also am bisexual with confusing aromantic leanings haha. as for gender i’m probably most similar to cassia but it’s not an exact match, i’m genderfluid/nonbinary :]

[cherrysfriends]

My fiancé Cas revealed to me last night that two people in our friend group have feelings for me. I don't really know how to feel?? Me and Cas are both polyamorous do dating other people isn't off the table but things are kinda complicated with these two people.

The first one is one of Cas' alters. Ro is a great guy, I love hanging out with him when he fronts. However I'm not into men, I think?? Every since figuring out I'm aromantic but still like dating I've been very confused on what genders I'm okay with dating. I thought I was a lesbian for years but now I know I just have no romantic attraction. I think maybe I could date men now that I'm aware it's not romantic but I'm still unsure. Plus he is an alter, he inhabits my fiancé's body when he fronts and I've never dated an alter before so this is a whole new type of relationship I'm kind of scared of trying.

But then Cali also likes me. The thing is Cali and I have dated before. Things were complicated at the time with us both trying out a new form of dating (queer platonic dating, I'd just figured out I was aromantic) and it just was better for us to remain friends. Lately though I've been wishing things maybe did work out for us and now I'm finding out she's still into me and wants to try again. I think I'm willing to try again but I just want to spend some time thinking about it first.

So now I know these two people who are my really close friends like me and I'm conflicted. Being aromantic I have a specific image of dating in my head and I'm worried I'll try new relationships and they won't work but at the same time I don't want to let my fears stop me from potentially a good thing.

I'm happy with my queer platonic relationship with Cas even with our ups and downs so maybe I can try with more people as well and get good results.

[qprsmackdown]

Gillion, Chip, and Jay (JRWI Riptide) vs Tommy, Tubbo, and Ranboo (DSMP)

Propaganda beneath the cut!

Gillion, Chip, and Jay propaganda: They're three gay ass pirates who; despite coming from very different backgrounds, found eachother and formed the riptide pirates! All three of them are co-captains on their crew and they're trying to destroy the government HI HI HI I ALREaDY SUBMITTED FISH AND CHIPS AND IN THIS AREA I tALKED ABOUT HOW I WISHED JAY WAS ALLOWED AND THEN I SAW YOU ANSWER THAT ASK THAT SAID YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN 2 PEOPLE SO IM SUBMITTING THE ALBATRIO INSTEAD THANK YOU LOVE YOU Gillion is canonically asexual and shipped with both Jay and Chip respectively. I just think they are all very queer and platonically in love is all. I love polyamory. Put those guys in a relationship.

Benchtrio propaganda: My friend wrote a fanfiction detailing their platonic relationship from childhood friends to spouses. It is over 1 million words long. Pls he needs this

my good friend sunny wrote over 1million words of fanfiction about them that was so good it permanently altered my brain chemistry. also i think the feat of over 1mil words is worth the win (:

Ranboo and Tubbo are canonically married, semi-canonically platonically so. Tubbo and Tommy have known each other for years, and have an understanding of each other that no one else does. Tommy and Ranboo went through a very awkward and begrudging beginning of their friendship, but Ranboo would go on to make Tommy's grave when he died.

I want to start off by stressing that these 3 are characters and are not at all connected to the real world creators that portrayed them aside from having the same name.

c!Ranboo and c!Tubbo were canonically married, with the nature of their marriage being largely ambiguous and up for interpretation! They live together in a mansion with their adopted child, Michael, a tiny baby piglin! c!Tommy was never an official part of their marriage, but the three spent so much time together(before the series' writing took a very unfortunate turn due to behind the scenes stuff) that they might as well have been a qpr polycule! It is confirmed that c!Ranboo(an 8'5 foot tall enderman hybrid) can only look 2 people directly in the eyes with it being STRONGLY implied those 2 people were c!Tommy and c!Tubbo! Their relationship didn't get as much time as it needed due to the series's unfortunate downturn near the end, but while it was there, it was a very comforting, very tender relationship between 3 traumatized young queer teens who were their for one another through their journeys in healing from their various traumas. Also one time c!Tommy and c!Ranboo got high together in a tiny smoke box they made(they also met when Ranboo hit him on the head with a giant flower. An allium, to be specific!).

[majorshatterandhare]

Here’s what I’m thinking.

Orpheus and Narcissus meet at work. They become good friends.

This leads to Eurydice and Echo meeting and becoming friends. And then they become very close.

Eurydice and Echo begin dating. Orpheus and Narcissus are like “uhh, okay, yeah that’s fine.”

It continues and eventually Narcissus and Orpheus realize they love each other too and want to date. Eurydice and Echo are obviously fully supportive; they had been expecting for a while by this point.

Then they all love each other and Narcissus and Eurydice, and Orpheus and Echo are able to get closer and their metamor relationships become alterous.

Side note: in the song Iphis, it seems to me, that the City is accepting of trans people but not gay people, and I think that’s weird and funny.

Eurydice/Orpheus/Narcissus/Echo polycule.

Orpheus dates Eurydice and Narcissus,

Narcissus dates Orpheus and Echo,

Echo dates Narcissus and Eurydice,

And Eurydice dates Echo and Orpheus.

It’s a square.

[charmixpower]

Other queer headcanons:

Icy -> Asexual Lesbian

She just has ace vibes to me. Darcy's whole manipulation thing by attraction is so useful but also she does not understand how it works even a little bit

Darcy -> Bisexual

She has a preference for men but it's not super strong. Shes always knew she was bisexual, baby Darcy was always aware. Smart girl hours

Stormy -> Aromatic Het

Stormy is so aromantic to me!!!! She has that aroallo energy of being hot, idk what to tell you. I literally could never see Stormy in a romantic relationship, like she'd have a platonic life partner but dating isn't real.

Sky -> Questioning (Bi pref women)

Brandon has once 100% offered to kiss Sky to see if he's bi, bc he had a crush on him and Sky still didn't realize he was bi. Like Eraklyon palace is not the place to try and question your sexuality and being attracted to people who could turn out to be spy's or he had a fuck ton of explicit power over was scary so he never figured out his sexuality until like s2~3

Brandon -> Gender Neutral, Pan, Poly

Brandon doesn't have a gender. He's completely gender neutral. Like he doesn't experience gender. He doesn't get gender euphoria or dysphoria. If he suddenly turned into a girl literally nothing would happen. He just doesn't experience gender, no gender here, godbless. He'd probably say Gender Neutral but there's other words for that

He's pan bc when he goes into the smooch competition with Stella, no one is off limits. Like I said with Stella, if they met someone they both wanted to date asking them out is a done deal

Timmy -> Gay Ace

This is just 100% vibes. Tecna is busy not dating him and Timmy needs something nice for himself. He just has the ace "I'm tired of you allos acting stupid as shit" energy in my thing, and he's gay bc he deserves nice things

Riven -> Bisexual

He's bi with a preference for women, and he would of known sooner but he was so far into the fucking closet that he had become one with the clothes. Musa helps him come out of the closet and they talk about hot people together I love them

Helia -> Alterous Transman

Alterous attraction is basically just attraction that isn't platonic or romantic vs aesthetic or sexual. It can be between them or be a secret third thing (like it is for me). Helia's alterous attraction is between platonic and romantic, and between aesthetic and sexual, everything is really fuzzy for him. He doesn't get strong anything but he still gets the feelings and impulse, it's just weak and most of the time he can't tell if it's actually platonic or aesthetic

He's also trans, this is just true. As soon as he learned what a boy and girl was he was telling his parents he was a boy. Like he knew very very early on, and he socially transitioned at a young age. Gender win for Helia

Nabu -> Gay

THIS MAN IS A HOMOSEXUAL!!!!! He and Sky make up the "raised rich and wears shiny ass earrings once they realized being GNC is an option" club, and good for him

Daphne -> Queer (Lesbian)

Daphne was WAY too busy fighting the ancestral witches to ever figure out her sexuality but she was aware of the fact that she wasn't cishet, so she just grabbed a macro label and kept it moving

Mirta -> GenderFluid Lesbian

It came to me in a dream. If she can use fairy and witch magic fluidly in canon what if her gender was fluid in my thing??? I am a fucking genius. Her hair is so non-binary. Haven't decided on pronouns yet, and Mirta just is a lesbian.

Diaspro -> Questioning (Pan)

Diaspro absolutely didn't have a single crush growing up in Eraklyon bc everyone there was a asshole and hatred her and she hated them back more. She was kinda punched in the face by her attraction to Bloom. She figures it out as soon as she leaves and talks to some normal people for like a month or something in s2 or s3

Roxy -> Agender AroAce

Roxy reminds me of my bestie who is agender, so they're agender, and I think it's funny if Roxy was watching the Winx do their relationship nonsense abt to throw up bc ew allo people. They are very repulsed, and I love them. They are literally a teenager trying to be cool and not understanding why everyone is dating or doing this gender shit. Triple A battery

Selina -> Trans Lesbian

Look at Selina's fucking ugly green hair and outfit, that is a trans lesbian if I've ever seen one

Krystal -> Bisexual

She just is, I can't explain. It's the Flora

[aspecpplarebeautiful]

Less of a question and more of a small story. Me and my queer platonic partner have known each other for about six years. A few months back, my platonic affection for them shifted into alterous. I love them, I honestly do, and I daydream often about what it'd be like to live with them the way we sometimes talk about. It'd want to do all of the sappy domestic shit like snuggling and sleeping next to each other and splitting up the cooking and chores. I guess when I thought deeper on this I figured it just started to sound like marriage, and I started to panic, and wondered if that meant I was actually in love with them romantically. I started worrying I'd have to marry them to ever get that sort of thing. But thinking about it further, I'm still repulsed by the idea of participating in all the romantic or sex stuff. I'd never want to kiss them on the lips or anything. And sleeping in the same bed has always been a platonic action to me (me and my grandmother used to share one when I was young because it helped my insomnia to have a person or a pet nearby). Hell, I actively want to meet and befriend their future wife and be able to get along with her. There's no prospective jealously. We managed to figure this out in a conversation so everything's good now but I guess I still have a lot of work to do with my internalized aphobia. Anyway I guess I just wanted to know how common it is to want to like,, platonically marry someone I guess? Like do a lot of aro/ace people hate the idea of being alone the way I do and want to live closely with a roommate/partner, but without the expectation of romance or sex? Are my desires clingy, co-dependent, or too-much? (My partner seems okay with them, but they aren't a-spec in any way so I worry they might start to grate when they actually get to a place they feel comfortable openly dating women). Should I be trying to reign them in or back off? Honest question I'm ND and not always the best with social ques or expectations.

I don't think I've ever seen it asked in a survey or anything like that, but there are definitely a lot of aros around who do still want some kind of life partner, and the idea of marrying someone in a platonic way, or living together and things like that are things that definitely appeal to a lot of aros too. Alterous feelings also definitely are not uncommon among aros in QPRs.

Wanting thee things you're talking about here isn't clingy or co-dependent. Being clingy or codependent in a relationship has more to do with the relationship dynamic itself, so the partner who has trouble letting their partner do things without them, or being overly needy, or being too dependent on a partner to the point where you're not taking proper care of yourself or can't.

Wanting a life partner, liking the idea of getting married, sleeping in the same bed, splitting the cooking etc. are actually all very healthy things to want in a relationship. And would be a healthy dynamic.

And if your partner wants the same things you do, then that's just a compatible relationship. And if they're acting like they're OK or happy with how things are between you, then it's likely they are.

Definitely I always encourage good communication, so that would be things like making it clear to your partner what you want and making sure you're on the same page. And if not, figuring out what would work for both of you if possible. But this is all just part of any kind of relationship including platonic ones and QPRs. But if you've done that already, then I think you're in a good spot.

As for if things may change when your partner starts dating women, I wouldn't assume anything. Of course you can never predict the future, but that's not the common story I hear. Usually when people have a very close relationship they value it and allo people are no different.

All the best, Anon! Good luck!