#snape hate

[that-bitch-kat3]

snape stans will be like “but james bullied snape!”

like… yeah someone had to

[hard--headed--woman]

i will never stop hating the fact that severus snape is so loved like the guy is a misogynistic asshole who bullied kids to the point they were traumatized because of him, mentally tortured a 15yo boy with the memories of his abusive childhood and made this boy's life hell just because his dad married the woman he has a creepy obsession on, joined a terrorist group to kill people he deemed inferior and take over the world, was a shitty teacher, favoured his own house, was ready to get a baby killed and gave the information that could have got him killed without batting an eye, called his best friend a slur, told everyone another teacher was a werewolf and so made him lose his job just because he was petty, was horrible to everyone, was terrible to the woman he "loved" and her son, and didn't even join the good side because he realized his mistakes... the guy is pure evil but he's loved because uwu he was in love with lily 🥺 huh no he was obsessed with her and a bastard actually. you love him and forgive him because he's a man. can you imagine if a female character did all of this ? she would be the most hated character ever.

[harrypottermovieproblems]

On Paapa Essiedu as Severus Snape (HBO Harry Potter)

As HBO's Harry Potter series rolls into pre-production - a sentence that, ten years ago, would have undoubtedly brought me extreme joy but in 2024 simply makes me regret the money that will be flowing into anti-trans politicians' bank accounts because of it - casting rumors have started to leak out.

The first of these is that I May Destroy You's Paapa Essiedu is being courted for a role as Severus Snape. As a former ardent Harry Potter enjoyer, I have several things I would like to say about this, and will do so in the form of a likely incohesive yet numbered list.

I've never personally seen Essiedu's work, but I hear that he is an exceptionally talented and charismatic actor, and I wish him well.

Unfortunately, I will likely be judgmental of any actor who decides to condone JKR's bigotry and ongoing wealth by signing on to this project.

I'm enthusiastic (or would be, if I could be enthusiastic about HBO HP to begin with) about the idea of introducing more actors of color to play Harry Potter characters. I was a long-standing proponent of a WoC Hermione, including the casting of Noma Dumezweni in the unfortunately atrocious Cursed Child, and also of a mixed-race Harry.

I find it interesting that production thinks it is a good idea to cast a handsome Man of Color as a canonically unattractive, prejudiced, perpetually antagonistic, former hate group member who essentially joined the Wizarding version of the KKK and who is mainly remembered as an incel who regularly bullied children, including the child of the (presumably white, though this casting is yet to be seen) woman who was the object of his unwanted affections and for whose murder he was partially responsible.

Severus Snape, of course, is a complex character who deserves (if any of these characters 'deserve' anything when HBO HP will, again, be funneling money into the pockets of the anti-trans movement in the UK) to have his story told in a nuanced way.

He is still a character who signed up to be a Death Eater, which has always been Harry Potter's allegory for a violent white supremacist hate group.

Time will tell whether this casting will be representative of the series as a whole; that is to say, whether there will be enough actors of color within the show in general so as to make casting a Black actor in this specific role no longer problematic.

Time will also tell whether James Potter and company will be cast as actors of color, or whether the bullying flashback in OotP is about to take on a wholly new implication despite, and I cannot reiterate this enough, Severus Snape being the one who eventually joined the genocidal hate group.

We have yet to see whether the remaining Harry Potter fandom at large reacts to this casting decision with any more grace than racist Lord of the Rings fans did on release of the Rings of Power TV series or Star Wars fans did at any point within the last decade. I hope for Essiedu's sake that the mistakes of the past are not repeated, and wish him peace and protection in the face of the potential onslaught to come.

With the creation of this show obviously already stirring controversy from LGBT advocates, I can't help but wonder if this news has been dropped as a distraction, or even a sacrificial tidbit, so that the ensuing backlash from awful fucking people will allow production to decry any criticism of the new show without having to re-address JKR's ongoing opposition to both science and basic human rights.

Once again, I hope that this is not the case, because Essiedu specifically and indeed all actors from marginalized groups generally deserve much, much better.

xoxo

[atyd1960]

The more I think about it the more I'm confused about Snape's so called "redemption arc":

We don't know much about his years at Hogwarts outside of the time James hanged him from his underwear and he called Lily a Mudblood, but we know that:

1. He had a disdain for Muggles ever since he was born or at least ever since he was 10 y/o bc that's when he meets Lily and Petunia and treats the latter like garbage.

2. He was friends with Mulciber and Avery- known death eaters, especially Mulciber who we know was particularly close with Baldy due to the time he came to Hogsmede with him for his job interview with dummydore.

From that we can assume that he was a witness and a participant in A Lot of hate crimes against Muggle Borns ever since he was a minor. One of which was the time Mary was the victim.

3. We know HE invented the spell James used to hang him from his panties, which must mean that he used it against others, probably muggle borns, and his DE friends must've used it as well.

4. We know he invented the spell Sectumsempra to use against his enemies?? (Sorry it's been a while since I read the books I don't remember the exact quote.) and his enemies are almost certainly the Marauders. Also maybe his dad but that's a discussion for another day.

5. We know he was one of Baldy's dearest death eaters, even tho he was a Half-Blood with no status and no connections, which means he definitely did a lot of horrific things to Muggles and Muggle borns and the members of the Order of Phoenix.

6. We know he heard Trelawney's prophesy after eavesdropping in a bar, and immediately ran to Baldy with it. He knew that by telling Baldy about the prophecy an innocent baby will be killed, and he didn't give a shit. I cannot stress enough how much that information in vital for his character. Taking a baby's life so that Baldy might give him a sit closer to him by the table. And nothing would've happened to him if he shut his mouth and didn't go to Baldy. He didn't have his life or even his status\loyalty on the line. He just sacrificed this anonymous innocent baby for kicks and giggles.

7. The only point in which he cared about his actions was when Lily's life was on the line. This wanker really didn't care that he just gave Baldy (a man who made it his life' mission to kill Lily and the likes of her) a reason to kill Lily's son and husband, who were practically her only source of joy while she fought against his people in the war. He just wanted the girl he slurred and stalked and mistreated in high-school to live with all her friends and family dead. And thought he was doing something good. I don't even know how to begin to describe how fucked up that is.

8. He went to Dummydore and asked him to save her. After he got her, her husband and her kid to be under an even worse constant death threat than they were before because of Lily's blood status and their participant in the order. And after he spent the last 3-4 years killing Lily’s friends and the people who share her blood status.

9. That was also the point in which he offered himself to be a double spy right?? Again real heroic of him to risk his life after all the shit he did because he was in love with a girl whose life he ruined. He never cared about all the shit he did and all the people he murdered and he never actually wanted to help innocent people or do good by the world or even by Lily.

10. After Baldy died for the first time and the first war ended, Harry had nobody left, and Dummydore put him with Petunia and Vernon. Snape knew better than anyone else what the Dursleys will do to Harry. He knew everything, and he didn't do shit. Not only did he not do shit, but he also made things worse for Harry by bullying and harassing him since the moment he stepped foot in the castle.

11. Extending on the last point- Snape bullied, harassed, abused, mistreated and discriminated against students at Hogwarts ever since he started teaching there, I'm not gonna start elaborating on all the times he did those things because that would take a different essay of similar length.

12. If Voldemort chose to go after Neville instead of Harry, Snape would live and die as the most loyal Death Eater ever

So to conclude: am I really expected to forgive him because he loved Lily and had a hard time with James when they were 16 and he spied for Dummydore for a bit?? Being a loser in middle school and then becoming a double spy doesn’t make up for… anything. Especially since he never stopped being a terrible person.

[deathnguts]

Teacher that took his problems out on his students so hard they were afraid of him Snape, no one can make me like you

Teenager that was bullied by the golden boys and lived being too undesirable for his house and too dark for the light of good Snape, no one can make me hate you

[addsalwayssick]

Snape in POA: You two quarrel like an old married couple!

What they excepted us to act like: omg eww they’re not married snape is so silly

how we acted: YES THE ONE GOOD THING SNAPE SAYS THATS SO REAL. ITS BC THEY ARE MARRIED

[moonagedaydreamsofrhiannon]

btw Dream Girl Evil by Florence + the Machine was written about lily evans

the way snape treated her like a perfect fantasy “dream girl” that he could project onto but the second she did something he didn’t like and shattered the illusion by being an actual multilayered human being he became enraged and turned on her

and the way the fandom does the same exact bullshit, treating her like a perfect saint mother and wife instead of an actual realistic human being with flaws and complexities, and then the second she doesn’t serve a man’s story (cough cough jegulus shippers cough cough) they turn her into a villain or toss her aside completely

[theres-an-endless-starry-sky]

Fuck it, I’m declaring this an offical anti-snape zone! I won’t be reblogging/posting positive snape stuff here so don’t go looking for it!

[kathenaaa]

Cant let gang know I fw marauders

[big19boss-blog]

Cale-nim would hate Snape! (Judge Cale pt1.)

I think if Cale won't like Snape even one bit. Here are my arguments as to why:

Bullying Kids. In the words of Cale-nim himself, he is a trash person, but he would never hurt kids. And Snape did exactly that throughout the years. Whether it was threatening Neville so much that he became that kid's boggart. From constantly picking on Hermione to taking out the hate towards Harry's father on him. Nothing justifies bullying and hating a child, NOTHING.

Ratting out Remus. Snape not only made the students write essay on how to kill a werewolf and made Remus (the werewolf) check them. When he didn't get what he wished in the end, he let it slip to Daily Prophet that a teacher is a werewolf to the entire of ENGLAND!!

The sloppy double agent. He would have wanted Snape to fuck up more of Voldy's plans.

Hiding information. Snape had access to a lot of information throughout the book. If he wished to live a slacker life, he could have.

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I have more reason because I don't like Snape in general but anyways which character should Cale-nim Judge next?

[poseidons-getting-milk]

ik cannon is lame and all that, but it’s kinda funny that one of the only things we know about Evan is that he was friends with Snape and we all chose to ignore it. Like he’s mentioned like twice and one of them is saying he was close with Snape.

[that-bitch-kat3]

lily evans hc: during 5th year after lily and severus stopped being friends she chopped off all of her hair

[nubisecretplace]

Sirius: i am 80% speed, 50% hero and 70% legend

Snape: that's 200%

Sirius: i'm twice the man you'll ever be

[eden-3000]

OMG! Severus Snape is such a 'Nice Guy'

Being friends with exactly one girl, who just so happens to be the girl you've had a crush on for ages?

Being mad at the guy she actually likes?

'I can treat her better' 'I've known her longer'

And then calling her a bitch/ mudblood when she calls you out?

Then treating her kid like crap because of your silly revenge fantasies?

[gameguy20100]

What an abuse victim lashing out at people is:

Snapping at someone, being rude or dismissive of people, or just shoving someone too hard during a heated moment.

What an abuse victim lashing out is NOT:

Trying to kill or hurt someone, mocking/ belittling someone elses abuse or truama.

That is just bullying and it's gross.

[crymeacriver]

Two avid snape haters react to chapter 67 of Crimson Rivers

He was actually so iconic for this and it pains me so much to admit that.