#sith are not evil

[underwaterspiderbird]

[underwaterspiderbird]

because you’re literally pulling the “im not an evangelical fascist YOU’RE an evangelical fascist for saying i’m one” move, that evangelicals fascists are INFAMOUS for, deflecting to anyone who calls out their evangelical fascism. you people are fucking delusional.

I will maintain with a dying breath at this point that a major contributing factor as to why so many people are sith apologists is that the light side dark side split is fundamentally a split of eastern mysticism vs western mysticism with the core tenant that the eastern mysticism is at the end of the day the more righteous approach to spiritualism well western mysticism is the more self serving side. and that infuriates people on an unconscious level to no end.

that is to say, the jedi being enlightened daoist monks and the sith being angry evangelical preachers infuriates sith apologists.

[bisexualvader]

tumblr was so easily corrupted by the dark side

[underwaterspiderbird]

“plagueis saw qimir and osha so that means he’s gonna kill them!!1” first off, not all sith believe in or follow rule of two, just like not every witch believe in threefold law. second, out of any sith you could learn from, plagueis may be one of the most legitimately chill of them. he doesn’t care about galactic dominance or whatever, he just believes in sith beliefs & wants to exist his way and do his cool force experiments. nothing’s set in stone, stop acting like anybody who disagrees with the jedi is doomed for suffering for daring to not agree with the jedi’s holy worldview. it was old and tired then and it’s straight up mold now. just stop.

[underwaterspiderbird]

nnnnno, the jedi just suck. their whole thing minus their self hype boils down to “be like me or else you’re a corrupted abomination & you deserve to either die or repent for existing”. if anything, ppl like qui gon, kanan, cal, etc either didn’t know any better & had no idea what they were being taught was unhealthy & bad weird,

or they knew and just continued to double down in their cope of “no the jedi MUST be right it’s everybody else that’s wrong” and were just as much accomplices in the jedi’s slaughter and genocide of nonbelievers as the rest of them. if anything, they were good little idiots who did whatever they were told as long as it carried the jedi’s hollow promise of goodness and justice. they drank the kool-aid.

if anything, we like anakin and ahsoka because they at least thought for themselves, even when they called themselves “jedi”, and eventually broke away from that cult to be their own people.

ain’ nobody forgetting the jedi’s puritan habit of throwing away and demonizing anybody, pupil or otherwise, that questions or even outright disagrees with the jedi notion of the force; suggests that maybe the jedi are wrong.

just take the L, you’re not fooling anybody. not even the mfs who pretend to believe you and back you up out of cope.

Anakin and Ahsoka are “pick-me’s.”

Don’t worry, I’ll elaborate.

Anti-Jedi folks will always, always, lift these two assholes up as “better than all the rest of the Jedi.”

They’ll say that they have “empathy,” and “compassion,” and that they “care about the little people and not just the politicians in the Senate”—or whatever the fuck else they wanna say—all because Ahsoka and Anakin “Aren’t Like Other Jedi™️”

Now, theoretically, you could say the same thing about Qui-Gon, Kanan, Cal, etc. except for the fact that they themselves don’t believe that.

They loved being Jedi, they viewed themselves as being Jedi, they loved their fellow Jedi and the Order. They didn’t betray their family, they didn’t blame their family for their own fucking genocide or basically call their practices stupid because “look how much better I am teehee.”

Qui-Gon, Kanan, Cal…they loved the Order and being Jedi in a way that Ahsoka and Anakin didn’t.

Ahsoka’s change is partly Anakin’s fault, since she only changed after being his padawan, but that doesn’t change the fact that now she’s so entrenched in her own ignorance that she truly believes that the Jedi brought on their own genocide because they didn’t train non-Force-sensitives.

So yeah, Anakin and Ahsoka are massive pick-me’s and y’all are too.

[inquisitor-apologist]

Do you think the Sith Holocron told Ezra to cut his hair or was that bad idea all his own

[jedi-starbird]

My Feemor proposal

A popular headcanon for Feemor is that he's a Jedi Shadow. Shadows are spies and basically detectives. Feemor's lineage has a reputation for being eccentric, infamous, and finding trouble everywhere they go. So, walk with me here, Feemor's an eccentric, famous, blonde detective.

This is Feemor.

[short-wooloo]

The sith are not an oppressed culture forced underground by the Jedi

They're a deranged cult devoted to creating tyranny which they rule, murdering anyone they deem an enemy, and selfishly indulging in their wants no matter what it costs everyone else

Them being in hiding was their choice, they're a conspiracy, a shadow hiding within the society they are deliberately trying to destroy/warp into their image

[is-that-sand-in-my-waffles]

Obi-Wan, to any and every Sith in his vicinity:

[oacest]

noel telling matt about the code names he and liam would use in the 90s when oasis was checking into hotels

[merrysithmas]

when ppl see this & this, directed by the same person, and think the narrative is "anakin is evil" not "anakin is a steward of the balance, a force demi god, as was foretold on Mortis" 😂

[underwaterspiderbird]

no it’s not, it’s “i deserve to exist and view & access the force the way that works for me without evangelical crusaders like the jedi othering and trying to kill me for existing, and i will protect myself by any means necessary”. same way any minority that systemic evangelicals deem “an abomination” has to defend themselves against bigoted weirdos just to continue existing. we’re not slow pastor

*The Acolyte Episode 5 Spoilers*

I think it's funny that after so much of the fandom saying the Acolyte is anti-jedi and pro-sith the sith's point of view is literally just "the jedi oppress me cause I'm not allowed to murder whoever I want 🥺😡"

[chamerionwrites]

Now and then I have a little giggle when I recall that JJ Abrams made Rey Palpatine's grandkid via some sort of nonsensical cloning plot. It's not the worst thing in the ST but I do think it's emblematic of why it's bad. Signifier without substance. Derivative *and* gutless. Tried to rip off ESB without understanding how the Vader reveal works as a narrative beat, gave Sheev spawn, and didn't even have enough courage of their convictions to admit that he fucks.

Like we all know Vader spent two decades pining gloomily after Padmé. But Palpatine? Sheev Palpatine? The guy whose two modes are smiling smug self-satisfied secret smiles to himself and crowing POWER, UNLIMITED POWER? The guy who cackles with maniacal relish anytime he gets to let his hair down and have a lightsaber fight? That guy is a hedonist. Tell me I'm wrong. That man is at all times enjoying the hell out of being irredeemably evil. He is a literal emperor, the vastly powerful and mostly unchallenged ruler of the galaxy, reveling in a victory he spent many years plotting and scheming for. And they had to invent some half-assed narrative afterthought of a cloning program rather than simply allowing us to assume that at some point in the two+ decades between ROTS and ROTJ, that man got laid? The cowardice. The incompetence. The sheer commitment to taking every conceivable L

[underwaterspiderbird]

“falling to the dark side” is the jedi’s way of stripping agency from anybody who breaks away from them or disagrees with them, it relies on the notion that jedi beliefs are the default & that “nobody could POSSIBLY be a decent, sensible person and NOT want to be a jedi”, & that’s how they get away with othering and conquistadoring anybody who doesn’t think like them.

same energy as “believe what i believe or you’re gonna burn in hell forever” and “my ex is a crazy bitch you can’t trust anything they say”.

[david-talks-sw]

Let's briefly talk about this scene.

It starts with Anakin lamenting how the Clone War corrupted the Jedi and the principles of the Republic.

Now, Padmé thinks she and Anakin are talking about the same thing: this war is corrupting the Jedi and the principles of the Republic and Palpatine doesn't seem to want to put an end to it, instead increasingly amassing power.

She asks Anakin to get Palpatine to cease the fighting and let diplomacy resume. And Anakin. Gets. Triggered.

Why?

Well, firstly... it's because they weren't talking about the same thing.

1. What Anakin really means when talking about "the principles of the Republic".

While Anakin may say that he's concerned for the corruption of the Jedi Code and the principles of the Republic... he isn't really.

Anakin has a track record of saying he supports abstract principles and concepts, then complaining when standing by that hurts him.

Like when he'll preach that wartime forces him to make hard choices, duty over emotion...

... but then gets mad when someone else makes the hard choice in doing their duty, and it hits close to home.

There's this line Matthew Stover wrote in the ROTS novelization, which I think is very relevant:

“I think," Obi-Wan said carefully, "that abstractions like peace don't mean much to him. He's loyal to people, not to principles. And he expects loyalty in return. He will stop at nothing to save me, for example, because he thinks I would do the same for him.”

Anakin isn't about abstractions like "peace", "duty" or "democracy". He'll say he is, because he knows he should be, in theory... but, in practice, he's more loyal to people than to principles.

And right now, he's very loyal to Palpatine. Arguably more than anyone else. No matter how blatantly he acts like a dictator, Anakin stays on his side.

So whenever he uses the words "Senate" and "Republic", what he means is "Palpatine". To him, they're one and the same.

He loves Palpatine very much but the two other people he loves, Padmé and Obi-Wan, are both telling him Palpatine's bad news.

Which brings us to the second reason he gets triggered...

2. He's under an enormous amount of stress.

He's barely had any sleep since his nightmare about Padmé and is now scared at the prospect of losing her like he lost his mother.

He's been on an emotional roller-coaster with the Council, first being put on the Council, but not as a Master, then being given a mission but it's a mission to spy on a mentor and father figure. Now he's not even sure the Jedi trust him and he's not even sure they should, after his outburst.

Also Padmé herself is asking him to tell Palpatine to stop, criticizing the Chancellor just like the Jedi do.

It's understandable that he's on edge. That said... a huge chunk of this stress isn't Padmé or the Council's fault. It has been manufactured by Palpatine.

He appointed Anakin to be his representative on the Council specifically because he knew it would put Anakin under pressure... pressure he can exploit for his own gain.

That's what Palpatine does. He orchestrates pressure then swoops in, in the guise of a savior.

With the Republic, he does this by engineering a war then bringing about order (to the chaos he caused) as an Emperor.

With Anakin, he does this by engineering conflict between him and his family - Padmé, Obi-Wan, the Jedi - then presenting himself before Anakin as the solution to all his problems.

From that point on, he enables the Republic and Anakin to give in to the worse parts of themselves and implode.

The former goes from being a democracy to a dictatorship, the latter goes from being a sweet kid to a bad man.

[underwaterspiderbird]

no it's not, it's agency and empowerment. sith teachings just boil down to that fact remains the same regardless of how you twist it or how many weirdos or fallacies you use to insist anybody that beliefs in sith beliefs is automatically a psychotic weirdo. don't throw stones in a glass house mx "believe what i believe or you're a dark evil abomination and you don't deserve to exist".

The sith mindset is just“ i dont have to obey the laws or the rules or heed the consquences because i have the power and the grumpton to do things right MY Way ”

Its a very juvenile thinking and mindset but its awfully consistent in across the star wars media

Their teachings are..well i was going to say vindicates hobbesian arguments on why a big government is a good idea