#sith like plagueis & vectivus are actually pretty chill they just do their own thing and say fuck the jedi for trying to say they can’t

[underwaterspiderbird]

from someone who grew up in the same area a freethinking sith & had to fight through oceans of evengelical jedi and adults who tried to force me to believe i’m evil if i don’t believe what they believe, never.

agency, personal power, & sithy freedom all day over here baby.

and what “dark conclusions” do you mean? that maybe the people that call themselves “good guys” aren’t as good as the say and the people they call “bad guys” aren’t as awful as they’re made out to be? that people might come to their own conclusions that aren’t positive for you? oh noooooooooooo

As a person who grew up in an incredibly conservative area and now has religious trauma I have to say this: stop projecting your problems with the Christian church onto the Jedi.

And before you click away or send me a nasty anon: I get it! I used to be one of you! Around the time I started deconstructing the only way I could think of to cope with having to completely reevaluate my life was to project every wrong the church committed against me onto the Jedi. It was therapeutic in a way: this ginormous religious institution harmed me, so in turn I would map that hurt onto a fictional religion.

But here’s the thing: the Jedi aren’t Christian analogous. A minutes worth of research into GL’s intentions, the Prequel trilogy, and a bit of critical thinking will prove I’m right. When you view the Jedi as Christian not only do you take away the core tenets of the Jedi, you run the risk of homogenizing real world religions.

it’s no secret that the Jedi are based off of Buddhists Taoists and other miscellaneous eastern religions, with little to no western flavoring. If you view every belief system within the western idea of religion you can lead yourself down a road that has some very dark conclusions.

In short, to the Jedi antis: I know how you feel, I really do. It took a long time to heal from the hurt evangelical christianity caused me. The Jedi aren’t the enemy you think they are. Take a step back, examine the source material critically, and you’ll see what I mean.

[underwaterspiderbird]

no, sith are not evil. sith teachings boil down to “i choose agency and empowerment over bowing down to outside systems that would love to try and make me into something i’m not.” sith like plagueis and vectivus are actually pretty chill, they just do their own thing and focus more on survival than anything. if anything it’s weirdos like palpatine etc. that give the sith the malignment and bad rep they’re known so well for.

and it’s not fiction, it’s art that reflects our own world and truest selves & desires. it’s self-expression. the “it’s just fiction” doesn’t work, kiiinda comes off like a thin-veiled way to shut down & talk over anybody who brings up valid points & gets deemed “too passionate” or “cringe” by weirdos like these exact same jedi stans.

i absolutely hear you on not using minorities to defend the jedi however, (i’m an indigenous, trans, neurospicy sith for crying out loud), not because of that other notion but because the jedi, in action & practice, are more akin to the evangelical weirdos invading the homes of, slaughtering & beating the sense of self out of anybody who doesn’t exist like them.

calling the jedi a marginalized group & insisting their removal is genocide is like saying the catholic colonizers who invaded indigenous ppl are really a marginalized community and that the indigenous people are the genocidal ones not them. deflection and projection i calls it.

honestly it’s just like a systemically favored organized religion to uno reverse anything not-nice said about it that might threaten it’s supremacy.

Jedi Stans is more clinically insane than sith Stan’s. I love the sith. I would boot lick every Sith Lord in existence and be their footstool but when a Jedi stan says “they’re evil I’m happy the Jedi smoke em” I’m like “shiii I mean the sith do live by the sword and die by it. Rip. They died how they live, and went out like real ones” it’s like, “yeah I know. Who even cares” why? everybody who likes the Sith knows the Sith is evil but we don’t care because it’s fictional

but when you even say “yeah I don’t fw the Jedi like they’re pious and when they beefed with Sidious they had a 1vs 10k with him and still lost. The Jedi played the game and lost. Not crying for em” they act like you attacking a real marginalized group and start making slander on your real life beliefs and political views—all because in the context of a fictional series, you prefer the villain organization over the hero.

I have never seen anybody use a real world religion as a shield for their space wizards but Jedi Stan’s do it. Like calm down. Sith Stans don’t have to use Buddhism as a shield for anything bc we literally know they’re evil and flawed but we don’t care bc it’s fake. When the sith get wiped out, and Jedi Stan’s have their fun, I don’t call them “pro genocide” bc it’s fake chill out. I’m not besties with the Sith Order idgaf if they live or die. No emotional impact on me bc they fake

But when I say “damn 10k jedi couldn’t even beat one 63 year old man that’s hilarious. Damn rip Sidious dumbass got thrown in the deathstar pit lmao” I get called an facist and pro genocide

I say all that to say that the practice of using real marginalized groups, and religions as a shield to defend the Jedi is disrespectful and needs to end. A lot of y’all are way too emotionally attached to the Jedi order so maybe take a page out of their teachings and lighten up. Y’all is attached to this Order for no reason like Yoda and nem ain’t give you a penny but y’all acting like these is real people who play a role in your life