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Sabre would never have helped the Mol. She herself is a Qerel for one, and although she wound up a refugee in Eorzea (and had just. A really, really bad time there, I might add) she never let go of the heritage she'd been taught.
As far as she's concerned, she holds the same view of the Mol that many of the other more warmongering tribes do: they are weak. They participate in the Nadaam and they die, as sheep-herders with no warrior training should. That's how life goes.
For Sabre, she fights for her tribe. When she wins the Nadaam, she claims victory for the Qerel, not for the Mol. She allows Magnai and his kin to remain in the Dawn Throne purely because there's not enough Qerel that she can find to assume that throne, and in part because she has some family drama and expects it wouldn't help her tribe much. That, and because she knows - begrudgingly - that she can't stay on the Steppe herself, no matter how much she'd like to.
It's also her, not Hien, who then uses the attack on her immediately after the Naadam to justify leading the Xaela into war against the Garleans in Doma; specifically to crush the Empire's presence there as a way to safeguard and protect the Steppe. It isn't out of altruism for the people of Doma (who she cares very little about, Stormblood is a messy expansion for her filled with strife and grief thanks to Zenos that channels some of her very worst personality traits) and she certainly wasn't about to let some Doman runaway take command of a people stronger than his own for his own benefit.
Sabre really doesn't like Hien much at all, actually. She's not his friend, she doesn't consider him a strong warrior, and she certainly doesn't consider him a particularly strong leader. She leads the Xaela into Doman war out of a borderline obligation, knowing the rest of the Scions would never let her do otherwise, and even that in itself constantly makes her question whether she should even fight on their side. Nobody listens to her opinions, after all, she's just thrown at any fight they need to throw her at and expected to win for them. By the time she leaves the Steppe portion of Stormblood, Sabre's the angriest she's ever been at almost everybody in her life, especially the Scions. And even after Stormblood and she starts to sort her own head out, she never really comes around on Hien fully. She never truly trusts him given his rather imperialist idea of "force myself into Xaela culture, and use that as an excuse to lead them into war" - she can never let that go.
Good day everyone! I hope this day finds you well!
Once again, I have a WoLQotD question for you all!!
I know this may be opening a can of worms for some people, but regardless; what action in the Canon story goes directly against how you perceive your WoL's personality. A choice made in-game that you, in the mindset of your WoL, would have done drastically different?
The ending of a life or the sparing of one? Keeping your silence on something or speaking out? Choosing to go down the path you see laid out, or forging your own?
This game is beautiful in so many ways, one of the most beautiful ways is that we all have made our own unique characters. Characters that differ in more than just a few lines of dialogue here and there, so different that they really are just different people altogether despite following the same path.
I'd love to hear about what makes your WoL's different!
#final fantasy 14#ffxiv#ffxiv wol#wolqotd#sabre qerel#she's just a bitch is what i'm saying#she has her reasons and not all of them great but she's just a bitch#and stormblood basically brings out the very worst in Sabre#which makes it one of my favourite expansions#she does so much growing in that expac#my stupid lizard
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Danny: Your mother!
Vlad: My mother is dead, Daniel.
Danny:
Vlad: She shoved me into a closet while saying that we were playing hiding and seek, and me, the oblivious boy I was then, obliged and was excited, not at all questioning that she knew where I was hidden.
Danny: Vlad-
Vlad: Then I watched on helplessly through a crack in the closet door as she was brutally stabbed to death right before my very eyes, terror running through my veins and fear gripping my mouth to keep it closed. I couldn't turn away, as I had a front row seat to each and every scream that they tore from her as blood slowly melted into the carpet.
Danny: Dude-
Vlad: Then I saw the life drain from her eyes and leave nothing behind but an empty husk that once was and the killer standing on top of her body. Before they left, I remember staring at her for an unknown amount of time before the police came and escorted me outside.
Vlad: Sometimes I wonder what difference it would have made if I stepped out of that closet.
Danny:
Vlad:
Danny:
Vlad: Anywho, enough about that. Would you like some cupcakes Daniel?
Danny, disturbed: Uh.... sure....?
Vlad: Great, vanilla or chocolate? Or perhaps lemon with some buttercream?
Danny: Lemon with buttercream please.
Vlad, going to his kitchen: Wonderful, wait one moment.
Danny is currently questioning how the hell a simple your mother joke forced him into a lore dump of his mother's death. On the bright side, at least he'll get some cupcakes out of it?
Dick: So, is your godfather always like this?
No matter what anyone says, Danny did NOT scream because he genuinely forgot that Dick was there, nor would he ever admit to being scared, because he wasn't scared.
#dc x dp#dp x dc#dpxdc#dp x dc crossover#dcxdp#dc x dp crossover#I dunno I just thought it was funny#This is a redeem!Vlad this here#I have no idea what happened to Vlad's parents in canon#But we'll just wishwash this as an au#I was also considering Vlad ending his lore dump but saying āAnd she was a bitchā or āI'm surprised she still loved meā#But#Shrugs#Mah
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Y'know, it's unfortunate more people don't compare Louis and Violet in good faith.
Like, when I do see people compare them, it's usually through the lens of one is good, and the other bad. One is more canon than the other, and here's why. One is objectively better for Clementine, and the other is less impactful, worse written, didn't have chemistry with her, insert several insults here, etc.
I don't think it's inherently bad to express why you might not like one of them, or why you prefer one over the other. That's fine, that's a matter of opinion. It only gets to me when it becomes hostile, or passive aggressive... but even then, I've learned to just roll my eyes and move on. Some people make it very clear that they're not worth having a discussion with.
However, I wish I could read more nuanced comparisons of the two that didn't default to the "and that's why this one is better." At least some are kind enough to tack on a "for my Clementine" at the end.
You know how it goes: Louis is cute and he makes Clementine laugh, whereas Violet's boring, her love is shallow, she's still not over Minerva and she's using Clementine as a rebound. Violentine's a bad ship because Violet's actually a traitor, and they're practically the same person and that's bad.
Violet's loyal and reliable, whereas Louis is annoying, he never takes anything serious, he's a traitor for his vote, and he's nothing but a distraction. Clouis is a bad ship because how could any Clementine possibly like him after he voted her and AJ out? That's bad!
That's always the conclusion, right? One good, one bad.
This is incredibly limiting and it drives me nuts.
They're foils. They contrast one another, highlight each other's strengths and flaws, in such an interesting way that it makes Clementine's choice between them all the more meaningful.
One is not good and the other bad, they're different, and I think that's worth exploring.
Let's start with a common argument: Violet is the more impactful option due to her connection to Minerva.
Now, to be fair, I can understand why someone on Team Violet would believe this. Yes, it's true that the confrontation with Minerva is more impactful for a violentine shipper who has more investment in Violet as a character. Louis doesn't have as strong of a connection to her.
However, what they're failing to recognize is that Minerva isn't the only ghost to haunt this narrative. Violet may have Minerva, yes, but Louis has Marlon... and that doesn't just go away once Marlon's dead.
Violet's route has Minerva as her ex-girlfriend, and her bond with Tenn that all comes to a head on the bridge. Louis' route has Marlon's death and how that specifically impacts his relationship with AJ and Clementine, and the slow burn of forgiveness on all sides.
Marlon and Minerva are also reflective of Clementine's worst outcomes.
Clementine and Marlon were tied together through Brody's blood splattered on their hands and faces. They both killed a part of Brody, but only one of them lies about who killed her first.
After Marlon dies, Clementine gradually replaces him throughout the game; Rosie is her dog now, she uses his bow [which Louis gave her], she becomes the leader. Clementine gets them to fight back, and when three of her people are captured, she doesn't cut her losses. She does what Marlon couldn't; "we're getting them back."
When she chooses Louis, he does for her what he never did for Marlon: he steps up.
Clementine proves she won't become Marlon just as she proves she won't become Minerva.
After getting James to agree to help them, Clementine and AJ talk about what to do if she ever gets bit. AJ says he'd want her to bite him, too. He repeats this sentiment after she's actually bitten, telling her he wants to stay and they could turn together, peacefully.
When Minerva confronts them on the bridge, she's dying... and she wants Tenn to die with her. She doesn't care who she has to kill in the process. She's more monster than human at this point, and most times, she succeeds.
They're both bitten. Clementine could've become a monster like Minerva in the end. She could've killed AJ, and they could've become walkers together. But she didn't. Minerva wanted Tenn to die for her, and Clementine wanted AJ to live for her.
Also, I should mention she has Minerva's axe. She carries the key weapons associated with Marlon and Minerva throughout different points in the game, further solidifying these connections. She uses Marlon's bow to save her friends, and she uses Minerva's axe to save AJ, who in turn uses it to save her.
What's also so interesting about this is how Marlon's alive in episode one, and Minerva is thought to be dead. Louis has his best friend, and Violet's lost hers. But, at the end of the episode, Marlon's dead and Minerva's revealed to be alive.
Marlon becomes the ghost, and Minerva becomes the monster. Clementine becomes to Louis and Violet what Marlon and Minerva never could... how does that not drive anyone else insane?
So, no. One is not objectively better, or more impactful, because of a connection to Marlon or Minerva. They're different. It just depends on which storyline you personally find more compelling.
Actually, let's talk about that a little more.
In my opinion, the most intriguing point of comparison between Louis and Violet stems from their perceptions of survival, and how that impacts Clementine.
An argument I see made against violentine is that Violet's boring because she and Clementine are too similar. This usually comes from clouis shippers who prefer the "opposites attract" dynamic Clementine and Louis have.
On the flip side, there's the counter argument that Louis is reckless, that he doesn't take survival as seriously as he should and Clementine wouldn't want him because of that.
These are interesting to me because I get where they're coming from... but they ultimately miss the point.
The other day, I replayed TFS. Except this time, I did something a little bit differently. I played my usual clouis route, but then I had the violentine route pulled up on my laptop so that I could watch these scenes, comparing them side by sideā¦ and something occurred to me.Ā
Louis is about challenging Clementine's perception of survival, and Violet is about validating it.
Louis challenges Clementine from the very moment we meet himāheās playing music. His initial philosophy on survival butts heads with Clementineās. The fact that hunting with him and Aasim challenges your perception of āyour choices have consequences.ā These games have conditioned the player to think along the lines of, āYeah, Louis is more funā¦ but if I donāt hunt with Aasim, we wonāt have any food.ā
Except thatās just it. I hate to say it, Aasim, but in the grand scheme of thingsā¦ hunting with you doesnāt matter. It's actually less rewarding. You know why? Because in the next section, we get food from the train station. It wouldāve been more beneficial to spend time with Louis over hunting, hence how he challenges you. Ā
This then primes you for the choice between choosing to follow Louis or follow Violet. I know people complain about how this is presented with Violet doing something productive [checking the walls] and Louis playing pianoā¦ but thatās the point. If youāre going through with Louisā full route, you need to meet him at his level, and in turn, he will meet you at yours. You need to accept the challenge, the idea that Clementine isnāt entirely right about the way sheās gone about survival.
Oh, and do I even need to mention the vote? The debate over Louisā vote is exhausting. Often times, people tell on themselves in how they talk about it. Itās not actually about the fact that he voted against them. If it was, these people would have a bigger bone with pick with Mitch, Willy, Ruby, and Omarā¦ and yet Louis is the one who takes all the blame as if heās the only one personally kicking them out.Ā
Louis is reacting to the death of his best friend, and the complicated feelings that come with it being caused by AJ. He wants accountability, even if he knows something's wrong. You can either agree with him that it was murder, and set AJ on the path of atonementā¦ or, you can double down and tell him to fuck off, AJ was justified.Ā
But hereās the thingā¦ the vote adds to the appeal of Louisā route. To someone who hates him, or at the very least is critical of his vote, that sounds mad or delusional.
Except itās really not.
Ever heard of a thing called tension? Because thereās a lot of it in ep2 between clouis + AJ and itās fantastic.
Yes, Louis voting them out is problematic because we need a problem to solve. We need something to feed the tension between him and Clementine. He stepped in front of a gun held by his best friend in order to protect her, forever changing their relationshipā¦ only for that to seemingly be taken away from us the moment AJ shoots Marlon.Ā
Yes, Louisā route is about being challenged, but itās also about challenging him. That heās able to forgive them, that heās able to question his own survival philosophy and understand theirs, that heās able to apologize and actually change for the betterā¦ that right there is what makes clouis so damn good.Ā
He becomes hardened whereas Clementine softens. By the end of the game, theyāre on a similar level now without neglecting their differences, and they can move forward together.Ā
Thatās what makes Louisā route appealingā¦ and itās also what makes it unappealing to people who prefer Violet.Ā
By contrast, Violetās already on Clementineās level when it comes to this perception of survival. She validates that Clementineās on the right path.
They have other similarities in the way that theyāre both female, queer, they both have a kid they look after, theyāre not always great with other people, etc.Ā
People who prefer Louis might consider this boring, but I think to Team Violet, itās comforting. Itās comforting to have a partner who takes this as seriously as you do, who wants to get shit done. Theyāre playing Clementine with a similar attitude, and donāt believe it needs to be challenged. Itās comforting to feel validated on something you already firmly believe in.Ā
We also see this if we compare the hunting and fishing scenes. You have to make an effort to choose Louis by choosing to neglect hunting, but the game makes you fish with Violet no matter what.
Violetās prioritizing fishing because they need food. Thatās what theyāve set out to do, so letās do it. The game is letting you know thatās the case, and if you value that, continue pursuing her.Ā
While fishing, they discuss why things are weird with her and Brody. Violet doesnāt take well to Clementineās blunt, āBecause you make it weird. Brody tries and you just make fun of her."
Thatās understandable because I think she already kind of knows why and is looking to have her feelings validated. She prefers it when Clementine suggests that itās because Brody never said sorry for what happened to the twins.Ā
Thereās also comfort and validation in the way Violet sides with Clementine and AJ after Marlonās death. She votes for them to stay, vocalizing how much she disapproves of the results. Thereās this feeling that I recognize from a lot of the sapphic romance I read; āitās you and me against the world, Iāll always have your back, even if youāre in the wrong, Iāll fight for you.ā
In our case, itās violentine + AJ against the rest of Ericson, save Tenn and Aasim. Violet validates that AJ was justified because Marlon was a liar and murderer, claiming that AJ and Clementine did nothing wrong. Violet fights to keep them.Ā
The tension between violentine in ep2 is different because instead of one pushing the other away, theyāre being forced apart by the vote and thereās nothing they can do about it. That tension is somewhat released when Clementine comes back and theyāre reunited, working out a plan to best defend the school.Ā
Itās also why Violetās presented as doing something productive when you follow her instead of Louis, and why she asks if you want to hang out after checking the defenses.Ā
All that being said, allow me to reiterate that one is not good and the other bad, they're different. These concepts of challenge and change/validation and comfort exist on a neutral road as diverging paths. Itās up to the player to pick what path they prefer, but that doesnāt mean the other path isnāt worth acknowledging or analyzing.Ā
I should also mention that theyāre not exclusive; there is overlap with validation being present in Louisā route and challenges in Violetās. Theyāre just more present in episodes 3 and 4 after weāve made our decision.Ā
There are several more examples of how this all fits together, buuuuutā
Yaāll wanna compare some allegories?
Those familiar with my content might already know where Iām going with this as Iāve made a post about Louis and the piano in the past.Ā
You see, I believe that there are allegories for Louis and Violetās hearts present in their routes: Louisā piano, and Violetās pin.Ā
I already have a thorough, in-depth analysis of Louis and the piano that you can read, so all Iāll say about it is that on the night of the raid, he asked Clementine to carve a piece of herself into his heart so that no matter what, their initials will be immortalized together in its woodā¦
And that makes me fucking feral.Ā
But I'm also so normal about it.
As for Violet, her heart is the star gazing pin she gives to Clementine. She gives it to her so sheāll always remember that nightā¦ but she doesnāt give it to her until after Clementineās saved her, and that fascinates me in the context of it being allegory.Ā
Louis asks Clementine to carve herself into his heart right before the raid, cementing that from that moment on, he is utterly devoted to her. I believe this is part of the reason why Louis is still happy to see her if heās the one whoās captured. Yes, yes, heās also incredibly traumatized from having his tongue cut out and heād be happy to see anyone, yada yadaā¦ but listen, if you romance Louis and heās captured, his heart remains with herāthat piano with their intitals is on full display. When he sees her, heās still so devoted to her that he refuses to accept that itās at all her fault. Even when she says it is, he shakes his head... and he so easily accepts her when theyāre together in the end. From the moment Clementine puts knife to wood, heās hers.Ā
Now, lookā¦ you might think Iām going somewhere not great with this but hear me out.Ā
I think after Clementineās gone star gazing with her, Violet is fully ready to give her heart to her. Yāknow, give her the pin. But, think about what Violet said about how people have left, but Clementine came back. Plus, with the impending raid to think about, maybe Violet should keep the pin until the right moment.Ā
I believe a key difference between her and Louis is that Violet needs one last thing to solidify that Clementineās the one.Ā
Louis gives her his heart prior to the raid because of everything thatās already gone down between them following Marlonās death. Violet needs to know that Clementineās willing to fight for her the way she fought before. When Clementine saves her from the raiders, itās solidified. Even after she sees Minerva again, it changes nothing.
Itās also worth noting that the pin is something Clementine wears. Like the piano carving, itās a piece on display for everyone to see, to let them know whose heart Clementine has.
Violet literally handed Clementine her heart as a means of saying, āIām yours. Iām devoted to you.āĀ
This is why romanced/captured Violet is devastating, and is why she behaves the way she does in the cells. She was so ready to give her heart away and then nope, sorry, Vi! You get knocked unconscious by raiders instead!Ā
If anything, you kind of deserve to be told to fuck off if you romanced her and then let her get captured. Just sayinā.Ā
Look, I have a lot of complicated feelings about the captured violentine route, mostly with Violet being as forgiving as she is after her eyes are burnedāyes, yes, I know, her eyes are burned and Minerva messed with her head so of course now sheās not hostile, yada, yada.Ā
But I think itās rather telling that you donāt get the pin in this route. Sure, Violetās willing to forgive and possibly pursue this romance in the futureā¦ but sheās not ready to hand over her heart, not truly. Not after everything thatās happened.Ā
And if you want to get extra angsty about it, imagine that Violet made the pin right after they parted ways, but before the raiders came. Meaning that if sheās captured, itās possibly still sitting somewhere, abandoned.Ā
Mmhmmm, very normal about this. I feel normal. My normalness about this continues... normally. I'm not losing my shit thinking about that. Nope. Why would I? I wouldn't! So normal.
Okay just let me talk about their reactions to Tenn's death and then I'll shut up.
This makes me want to gnaw my own foot off, I can barely handle it.
AJ shoots Tenn on the bridge because Clementine trusted him to make the hard calls. This saves Louis or Violet's life.
When Louis jumps across, he's completely silent as he watches Tenn die... and then he's pissed; "What the fuck?! How could you just shoot him like that?!"
AJ explains himself, that he did it for him, and Louis is so upset that he forces AJ to look at what he's done, to watch the walkers eat Tenn; "Tenn's dead. He's dead! Do you realize that?! Look! [...] He's... he's gone, because of you. Just fucking gone."
If Clementine says AJ saved his life, Louis says, "So what, we just cut him loose? Gun him down like he was nothing?"
If Clementine says nothing, Louis says, "Tenn was just a little boy!"
The reason Louis responds this way is because in this moment, he just relived Marlon's death all over again, but worse. So, SO much worse!
When Violet jumps across, she breaks down, begging, "Oh, my God! Oh, my God! No, no! No, no, no..." as she watches Tenn die... and then says to AJ, "No! What the fuck?! How could you do that?!"
AJ explains himself, that he did it for her, and Violet is faaaar from okay; "For me? I can't... Tenn is gone! That soft little boy who liked to draw, he's gone, because of you!"
If Clementine says AJ saved her life, Violet says, "You think that's okay?! Just gunning down one of our own?!"
And there it is.
Louis is hardened in this situation because he already went through this... Violet hasn't, not with AJ. She softened up throughout her route due to her relationships to him and Clementine... but this is the moment where she realizes that maybe AJ wasn't as justified as she believed, and this is the consequence.
This leads us to the ending where AJ asks if they're still mad about him killing Tenn, and I just... I'm biting my foot right now because the script has flipped.
Louis is forgiving and understanding. He's soft, he's sympathetic, he shakes AJ's hand to let him know that all is forgiven and they're okay; "I... AJ, I guess it's like... You saw something I didn't. About the situation, I mean. Minnie and the walkers and Tenn, it's just all this chaos in my head when I think back on it. [...] Clem says you saved my life? Well, then, that's exactly what you did. And how can I stay mad at anyone for doing that?"
Or, alternatively, "He was your friend, AJ. I know you are hurting just as much as I am."
As for Violet? She's understanding, too... but she's not quite ready to forgive yet; "The thing you said on the bridge...that he was messing up all the time. It wasn't something new, you know. Tenn got himself or other people into trouble all the time, long before you guys got here. He was always so lost. He lived in a world that just...isn't there, you know? And that's why I tried to look after him. But when I was pulling him away from the walkers, and Minnie, I could also see...he just wasn't there anymore."
"So you're mad, but sad."
"Can I be that for a while?"
And it's completely understandable that she's hurting and struggling with how she feels about AJ moving forward! She wants to be okay, she wants to forgive him, she just needs time.
Now, because I'm forever bitter, but I'm gonna mention this as well: whenever I see someone point at Violet's scene and say, "See!? This is how LOUIS should've acted in ep2!" like... they're telling on themselves again. Not just that they don't understand Louis as a character or his route, but that they don't fully grasp Violet's part in this either. Or time frames, for that matter.
Let me put it to you in simple terms... they react the same.
After Marlon and Tenn die, they're upset. They're pissed. They blame AJ and yell at him. After they've had time to process what happened [Louis after the two week time skip, Violet after time passes between the bridge and the ending] they share the same, "I'm still upset about Marlon/Tenn. Can I be that for a while and still be your friend?" sentiment.
The difference is that Louis is treated poorly for it because of the vote, and because we feel it first hand for longer... Violet got to grieve off screen and come back after she's sorted herself out.
It's a disservice to both of their characters because it's rooted in that same mentality that I criticized at the beginning: "This is why one is better than the other."
Do I need to say it again? I'm gonna say it again.
One is not good and the other bad. They're different.
There are so many fun discussions that could come from putting Louis and Violet side by side, and examining them. I haven't even covered the different ways they're introduced, or compared their ep3 dates to see what it says about them and the overall narratives! What about the cell scenes!? How they react when Dorian's about the cut off their fingers! The way they approach James upon meeting him!
That last one in particular is especially funny! They're all under stress about blending in with a herd of walkers to infiltrate a boat to save their friends, and yet Louis easily saunters up to the guy wearing walker skins with a smile, and makes him laugh by saying, "Functional and fashionable. I'll take two."
Violet approaches James like he's an injured wild animal that's going to bite her, and bless her heart, she tries with, "I, uhā¦ hey. Hey there, James. Sorry about Willy." Then James gives her this judgmental side-eye, like buddy? She's not the weirdo here.
There is so much potential to dissect here, and I want to see people do it... but I want them to do it fairly, in good faith.
I want to get away from the idea of comparing them to "prove" which is better because there is no objective better. There isn't! That's a waste of time!
I'm so done with The Debateā¢; it's unhelpful, it's annoying, and it's boring as shit. I've heard it all before, and you probably have, too.
I want to put Louis and Violet under a microscope and study them with the thought process of, "one does this and the other does that... what does it mean!? what does it say about the narrative!? Oh my god, they have the same opinion on this thing, WRITE THAT DOWN!"
So yeah, that's my ramble for the night.
I'm gonna go replay TFS for further research.
#twdg#twdg clementine#twdg louis#twdg violet#twdg aj#twdg tenn#twdg marlon#twdg minerva#twdg clouis#twdg violentine#clouis#violentine#i'll be real honest with you--i had a larger essay planned on this topic#that expanded on these ideas i've put forth here; especially the challenge vs validation thing and the allegories#but there were some parts where i could feel my personal bias slipping in too much...#like i had more to say about clouis than violentine at points because i'm more familiar with it#but then it didn't feel fair y'know? that's why i wish more people would talk about them like this#so that i could get different perspectives without having to deal with terrible 'one good one bad' arguments like they're so UNHELPFUL#i don't wanna hear about how much of a bitch you think vi is because she's angry in her cell scene#and i don't wanna hear about how 'well ACTUALLY it doesn't make sense that ANY clementine would romance louis because of the vote' STOP#to be fair tumblr isn't as bad with this. i'm mostly referring to fandom spaces outside of tumblr like reddit insta youtube etc#though tumblr certainly has had its moments#i dunno i'm just gonna throw this out there and then continue to work on the essay i want to and am able to fully write#and if people want to engage with it then fantastic can't wait to see what y'all have to say
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stray thought but why didnāt they just let giles die in spiral? like... other than make buffy miserable what does he even do in the later seasons? I feel like it would've been better to just let him go out on a good note than waste away as a character
#absolutely let me know if I'm wrong please#but I've just finished s6 and what. what was the purpose of him even being there#in fact he WASN'T there!! his bitch ass self was in england!!!!#he was RIGHT when he said he wasn't needed but he hasn't BEEN needed since SEASON 3!!!!!#like could he not have just set some firmer boundaries with buffy. completely abandoning her was so extreme#plus I think killing him would've been like scary yāknow?#cause the core scoobies are always safe in this show. in fact everyone BUT the core scoobies die around here#so to kill giles? big BIG deal!!#well actually I guess buffy dies a lot but she keeps coming back so idk if she counts exactly#me when I want all everybody to die#I realize I've also talked about how spike could've died within this season hahaha they say kill your darlings or whatever#also I get it was important that he killed ben for buffy but like being fr? I think xander and willow could've done it#for buffy? maybe. maybe. but for willow? I think xander would kill someone for willow. especially cause this guy is host of the hell god#and y'know willow would kill for willow. well tara but willow's love is a very selfish love so also for herself#anyways I think they could've done it they just didn't have to#and obviously spike would if he could not a question there#rupert giles#btvs#buffy the vampire slayer
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"You want to bum a cig?" "Yeah, Iām just feeling like I want a little extra buzz."
#critical role#ygifs#cr3#fearne#if you said emily axford's cr presence would turn fearne into a chronic smoker I'd say is this what dreaming is#shes the smokeshow so it only makes sense#fearne is just ashley being like remember how i'm the funniest bitch like we could ever forget
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Clytemnestra, Medea, and Oenone in the afterlife meet up and become a support group of husband killers and/or bad mothers. Also the DanaĆÆdes attend their meetings
#i need these three bitches to look at each other and say EXACTLYYY#also hera visits them because of course she does. those are her girlfailure squad of wives#hera and medea become particularly close too in my mind#would clytemnestra judge the other 2 for what they did to their kids? maybe but I'm in favor of the version where cly almost kills orestes#so her hands are just as dirty#clytemnestra#medea#oenone#greek mythology#danaĆÆdes#again just my silly thoughts
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Hi GT,
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but I absolutely love the recs you've given (you've introduced me to tomione, and I love it!) and I was wondering if it's possible to give you some recs in return? There are some books and fics that definitely have dramione / got vibes, and I was wondering if I could share them with you!
So glad you've enjoyed them! Feel free to rec me anything you want. I've read most of the classic recs in terms of fic and adjacent content (Cruel Prince et al), but I'll try anything that's well-written. My tastes run towards weird and/or audaciously creative stuff, and I can forgive a lot of weaknesses in plot on the grounds of (1) ambition or (2) character work. My turnoffs are instalove, protagonists who can't fail, and most Y/A (I'm not a hater, I swear, I just need characters who can say "fuck" when their leg gets chopped off.)
I'm also a fan of weird and fucked-up dynamics.(Wuthering Heights was my favorite book for a while, and as a teenager I wrote an AU in which the book ends on a long sex scene where Heathcliff fucks Cathy's ghost and then immediately gets murdered by Catherine 2.) Obviously, I am very normal.
#greenteacup asks#my beef with Y/A is mostly expressed in a dissonance between tone and content#LOVE the content. dystopia fantasy horror sex and blood ā awesome. but question. why are they all saying 'darn'?#like in the vampire diaries where they'll watch people get eaten and then 2 episodes later be like 'omg SCHOOL DANCE'#(EDIT: actually in fairness. on the vampire diaries. it was mostly just caroline that did that. unfair example my apologies)#& i distinguish this critique from a common bitch-and-moan complaint about tv shows being interested in 'girly' things#like relationships and social standing. that is not my complaint. that shit is delicious. i will chomp that shit for days#my issue is that when the stakes oscillate wildly from episode to episode and i can't tell what the main thing is#like sorry. a story with murder in it is always going to be about murder. you can't make it not about murder#unfortunately! many have tried.#and in general i have difficulty reading about teenagers bcā#(she says having written 600k words about them OKAY I KNOW. i contain multitudes.)#because they're either mini-adults (preferred flavor. jude in the cruel prince nails this) or like leetol babies to me#and unless it's something like the hunger games where the Leetol Baby thing is part of the story#i'm like. hang on. you're 12 what are you doing here#percy jackson was hard for me to re-read as an adult for this reason#which is why they're enjoyable for teenagers! because as a teenager you DO feel like an adult#and you like reading books that treat you like one! nothing wrong with that! healthy even!#only then you get past the teenage years (mashallah) and you get stuff like twilight#where of COURSE bella doesn't think twice about 117 year old man falling in love with her#because he looks like a rich mysterious 17-year-old hottie#but you reread it later and it's like um well. that. could be explored a little more maybe.#i'm not even necessarily opposed to it. candidly. still team edward. i just think the dynamic should be more fucked up and juicy.#which Y/A authors are often reluctant to do. like. COWARDS! face the nasty consequences of your narrative decisions!#anyhow. you didn't ask for any of this. please give me your recs lovely person you seem very nice.
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gonna be so sad when tonight is the first preshow space with good audio and i'm asleep because i have a psych appointment tomorrow
#life update if anyone gaf we're now at the point where i know i'm getting the adhd diagnosis and yet i STILL HAVE TO WAIT#like she just isnt sure if it's adhd or add (its norway theyre not gonna update the terms any time soon just roll with it)#and im just like. girl i don't give a fuck#its been so many years i cant do this anymore#we've talked to my fucking kindergarten teachers like š they've investigated my entire life atp#to make sure i did in fact have all these issues from birth#because my word and my mum's word just isn't good enough i guess#like lets rely on the selective memories of random ass people ive encountered growing up this is ASININE#anyway my godmother had a 4h consultation the other day and got diagnosed on the spot#so now my mum is mad at her LMFAO#cause my mum's like. that bitch doesn't even have adhd. shes fine.#which i feel like is probably wrong but i agree with the sentiment#where is the deep dive investigation into her wholeass existence š#its cause she got to go private but they refuse to refer me to a private specialist so i have to keep going publuc#public#and if i go private on my own its too expensive plus the waitlist is years long#so. whatever. i guess.#man im so tired.#i will never ever ever forgive my psychiatrist from when i was 15 who said i probably had adhd but because i did ok in school its fine#and they wouldnt set the diagnosis#because the fact that i have papers from when i was 15 saying i don't have it is what's making this all so difficult#even though if you read all the papers it says i hit on EVERY SINGLE POINT#which is why the One Psych who listened to me is absolutely fuming losing her mind cause she can't understand why any of this happened#man i hate my fucking life lol
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like why did they change where Vegeta was when Cell announced the cell games in the anime
why did they make this vegeta starting shit with yamcha instead of chillin in the lab with his family? why did they take Bulma out of the lab? Why'd they say she was Out while Dr Brief was repairing 16? Why did they change Bulma working on advanced robotics to running in late with her baby?
it's the same scene except: - Bulma's actively at work being a scientist - Vegeta's not being rude to her (or anyone else!) - Vegeta waits for Trunks instead of leaving the room - Cell interrupted the airwaves, which means Trunks and Vegeta were just hanging out with Bulma and Dr B while they were working
Those are all Great Character Details!! That the anime rails against!!
#these cowards afraid of showing Vegeta actively choosing to be around his wife and child even when he's Bad#Because Goku who is Good never ever even once makes that choice onscreen outside of filler#and then they justify that choice by making Chi-Chi seem horrid and unreasonable for (checks notes) Not Wanting Her Child to Die#anyway I am once again being bitter about anime vs manga klasjdklasd#I can't believe I let the anime convince me I hated Goku man Goku's SUCH a good and ridiculous character in the manga#the anime just SUCKS at letting him be who he's always been#and has to reframe and recontextualize and reword everything he does so that it seems like he's Actually Quite Mature and Thoughtful nO#THAT's VEGETA YOU COWARDS#also the fact that bulma said she wouldn't live with him at the beginning of this arc to him casually hanging out with her and trunks#after cell beat his ass and humbled him is REALLY GOOD SUBTEXT for their shared relationship having improved without showing it#it's great subtext for all three of them and toei just went 'nah' and decided to make it a whole group shot so ...? Master Roshi could sit#and explain how ??? Tournaments Work??? Just so Cell could log on and also explain how tournaments work?? God it's been so long#since I've watched the anime and now when I do it just makes me mad aklsdjskja the manga is SOOOOO much better#there are some spots where the pacing is more ideal in the anime like goku turning ssj for the first time but like man. everything else is.#like why are you making Goku snarky with Vegeta dude his clapbacks are SO much funnier when they're just Tactless Honesty#like Vegeta's not insulted by Snark bitch he grew up in the Freeza force that man was raised by THE bitchiest drag queens#Vegeta's insulted by someone saying something deeply and insultingly True to his face as if it's the fucking weather#Goku in the anime is like 'a battle of wits hoho' but Goku's purity is part of the joke he's not snippy he's just got no social etiquette#He's just honest! He's not trying to be insulting. That's what MAKES it insulting! That's the WHOLE GAG of why Vegeta can't stand him#Goku is always just telling the truth and it's always the rudest shit Vegeta's ever heard in his life#'it's a sunny day! i'm way stronger than you! see you out there bud!' 10000% Genuinely Friendly. Golden Retriever-Ass Pure.#Infuriating. Hilarious.#anyway I looked at anime clips to make sure I remembered things right and that was a mistake#as someone who has a soft spot for it and grew up on it -- compared to the manga it's bad and it's always been bad#and toriyama was right to be disinterested in watching it jesus christ they BUTCHERED his work#anyway this has been another shot of haterade with sketches thank you for scrolling my rambletags askljdask#dbtag#i just truly can't get over how they make Vegeta call her 'woman' in the anime and he literally only ever calls her Bulma in the manga#except for on namek when he refers to her as 'the/that woman' because she is a complete stranger#why is he calling her woman like he's a 1940s american husband and not an extraterrestrial from a deeply advanced society toei
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It's about like.
Willow fought to be seen as strong, because she is and for a very long time people not only convinced her that she wasn't, but that a lack of strength correlated to a lack of worth. And because of this past of having to prove herself and rediscover who she is and could be, Willow accidentally internalized the idea that others perception of her as strong is conditional on her always succeeding despite the obstacles, always staying in control and on top of things, always being the shoulder to cry on, etc etc.
And to an extent, she was right! Amity (unintentionally and well meaningly) refused to acknowledge willow's strength, leading to her having to prove herself, Boscha takes great pleasure in pointing out the chinks in willow's armour because Boscha feels better about herself when someone else is beneath her and she most often makes Willow that target. These are examples in which someone (correctly) paints Willow as pretending to be strong, but act like if they peeled back that facade, all you'd be left with is weak, half a witch willow. Whereas Hunter and Gus understand that even if you peel back willow's front of strength to see the more vulnerable side of her, there's still a strong foundation that takes little time in getting back into the swing of things once she's let it all out. Willow can be reliable and have debilitating anxiety. She can be whiney and needy and still be brave and powerful. Reliable people need someone to rely on too.
Willow's arc in labyrinth runners meant a lot to me because being consistently told that you are weak and need the help of people who love you but who struggle to understand you and see past their own need to protect you, by those people hit close to home and was incredibly validating to see. Somebody once compared the writing of those interactions to microaggressions, and intentional or not it resonated with me bc of that I think.
And now willow's arc in FTF completes this in a way that's very viscerally satisfying to me. Because proving your worth to people, no matter how successfully you do so, takes such a toll on your own mental well being and self perception. Bottling up your emotions so you don't drag others down is so difficult. And you deserve to cry like a big fucking baby if you've been doing this. Let it out!
For the future is an episode about being seen and heard, so to have Willow be so thoroughly seen and heard not just by the people who understand her best within the show, but also by the writers and consequently the audience is just.
It's what she deserves. And I love her very much
#ramblings of a lunatic#the owl house#toh#willow park#i have art i want to make of herrrrr but i have 27 mental illnesses and am banned from most public spaces#just listen to con man by the tuts and think abt her for me! please!!!#this could've been a huntlow post but i restrained myself. barely. anyway just know that hunter is my fav narrative foil for willow#and that is absolutely the reason I'm so obsessed with them#it's about everyone but you getting to define your own identity and then you saying. actually what if you didn't do that. bitch#and specifically how she helps him w/ this and then it comes full circle and he helps her with this#neither of them can tolerate the other talking bad about themselves and it just so happens that they share the same struggles#so by comforting the person they love it loops back around to being a form of self comfort. self recognition (then love) through the other#anyway. explodes
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if they don't want us to see frost and mark's 'relationship' (it's in air quotes because whatever the fuck they have i refuse to call a relationship) as a joke, then they need to stop treating it like a joke in canon.
the time skips are appalling, genuinely, like how did we go from frost not giving a shit about this man to her crawling head over heels and crying over him and NO in between. there was never an in-between checkpoint for their storyline, it was all or nothing and i have no idea what's going on anymore, it's the INCONSISTENCY for me. i'm on 8x07 rn and the last time we saw mark, he made her vulnerable and believed this could be real, almost kissed her, then jumped out a fucking window.
she was mad for literally half a season.
let's just say i was a huge "frostblaine" fan. the last time i saw them was in 7x15 where they had their only serious moment in their whole story, only for it to be a lie. now, maybe i would want to see one episode where they AT LEAST reconcile and apologize?? instead of hearing about it after the fact?? nope, the next time we see them they're skydiving and singing karaoke and making out like their kiss wasn't a huge build-up for nothing. i'm so with caitlin on how quickly and weirdly their relationship progressed.
honestly, maybe i would be less hateful about this ship if they even TRIED to give them a good love story. it's clear the writers forget about mark (like they forget about frost and caitlin) until they realize, oh yeah, frost has no plot this season so we need to make her only lines per episode about her boyfriend who ditched her! it makes me mad that they reduced her character to that in s8. she can provide so much more than just the edgy 'teenager' that talks about her boyfriend all the time.
i haven't watched the rest of the season and i heard it does get better for her plot wise, but i also know she fucking dies so ofc they would do that.
there has been no serious moment in this whole 'on-again off again' bullshit. it's literally 'oh mark has abs!!!!! guys i have such a silly girly crush on him haha oh he's evil i'm gonna be pouty for half a season- oh wait he's back!!!' they've been treated as the comic relief couple. even in armageddon, caitlin wasn't even there at the fucking party but oh! right, we forgot frost! she's...oh yeah, she's having sex with mark in the bathroom bc that suits her character and the only thing we care about :333
they treat them like a joke, so how do they expect us not to see it as just that?
#sorry i'm so pissed off#and it's just SAD that the whole frost mark caitlin marcus double date thing was the most screen time the girls have had ALL SEASON#don't get me started on how they didnt care about caitlin SO MUCH to the point where they chucked her a boyfriend#and we didn't have any build-up#anything at all#theyre like oh yeah caitlin's still around haha give her a random guy#and mark lecturing her at the bar about how he cares about frost for all she is BITCH DON'T EVEN. CAITLIN STOOD UP FOR HER AT HER WORST#WHEN SHE WAS IN COURT AND FIGHTING FOR HER LIFE BECAUSE OF YOU MARK#jesus christ dude#(this is also coming from a pissed off snowfrost fan GOD STOP CALLING EACH OTHER SISTERS EVERY THREE SECONDS#ITS GIVING SUPERCORP SAYING THE WORD FRIEND EVERY SENTENCE#they reduced their relationship to 'haha elderly strict sister and rebel younger sister haha' then what THEY ACTUALLY WERE#they were so much more complex than that#normal mutuals u can scroll im just insane#the flash#killer frost#killersnow#snowfrost#caitlin snow#anti mark blaine#anti frostblaine#the flash cw#mine#fandom rant
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There is one movie I still have yet to see.
Well technically two but one is non existent on the internet streaming services and it makes me cry (BECAUSE HES A VIDEO GAME NERD and I've watched all his scenes and I hate that girl who kept leading him on then breaking his heart, bitch. ... anyways I love him already...i-i..I'm rambling aren't I?) Anyways that movie is called not waving but drowning.
Anyways I need to go see where I can find the movie What if/The F Word because I was quoting that AD character long before I knew who AD was! Lmfao also ya know the meme "good soup" ? yeah congrats thats my fiance Sackler by the way š¤£)
Rant in tags(?) Ish? Not really??? .....where am I?
#WHAT DO YOU MEAN THIS IS INCOHERENT RAMBLING?#Really wanna add the nit waving but drowning character to my crush list....#although I really WOULD have to call Sackler as well...Sackler because NWBD character is also named Adam š¤#or like...Adam S. vs just Adam because i don't think he has a last name? š¤#anyways NWBD Adam is actually a really big sweetheart... like...this girl...sorry this bitch KISSES HIM knowing he really really likes her#more than a friend and flat out says AFTER the kiss ''I don't like you'' and you can see the hurt in his eyes but he just says#''T-Thats okay..'' NO NO PRECIOUS MAN IT IS NOT OKAY! SHE IS VENOMOUS I want to steal him away ;^;#c-can I steal him away even though I'm unable to watch the while movie? šš because I cannot find it anywhere#whole movie* LET. ME. EDIT. TAGS. ON. MOBILE. ISTG
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"I can see will appreciating all types of music genres" well I cannot. peace and love<3
#like sorry I just think he mostly listens to rock some people literally just listen to one genre and that's FINE oh my lord#he would not be pretentious about it I'm not saying that I am sure that when el turns the madonna on he does not bitch or make fun of her#that doesn't mean he's listening to it on his own though lmao. that doesn't mean it's his preferred music choice#you know who I DO think would like a lot of different music genres? el. and I have actual reasons for this#I'm not just saying shit for the sake of saying shit#like she probably wasn't exposed to music for the first 13 years of her life! I bet she loves all sorts of stuff bc it's all so unique!#I bet her favorite songs and artists are based more in sentimental value then anything else#like she likes madonna bc she listens to that with max. she likes bowie bc it's what her brothers introduced to her#she likes riot grrrrl/punk bc of kali y'know?#anyway. in summary. will literally does not have to listen to pop or whatever why would he#like do what you want with mike he canonically sang along to corey hart. but will?#anyway that's how I know y'all are just projecting bc y'all want your fave to have the same music taste as you#and like it's a harmless headcanon it doesn't matter I know. but it is a pet peeve yeah I don't see why will can't just like rock#AGAIN. NOT PRETENTIOUS. HE THINKS OTHER GENRES ARE FINE THEY'RE JUST NOT HIS THING#stranger things#will byers#byler
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man living with toxic relatives really is the worst, you come home and you just deal with more bullshit when you should be relaxing
#sil talks.š¤#your girl is losing her mind#everything i do is wrong#ive been told i might be 18 but i have an experience of a highschooler#even tho my aunt literally does not know what i did in turkey and believe me it ain't highschooler lever#and when I ask her something it's always why are you asking me google it#like maam arent you supposed to be this super experienced 50 year old why are you bitching at me when I ask question about a country i just#moved to 2 months ago#like god damnit#i dont know how much of this i can take#and im not even mnetioning her constantly saying āthe new generation doesn't want to do anythingā#the new generation doesnt know how to use google#the new generation doesn want to work#the future of coorparate america is screwed because the new generation doesn't know how to do anything#WHO RAISED THAT NEW GENERATION?????#YOU#YOU DID#SO STFU#her kids literally don't know how to communicate with other people and when i do something I'm constantly in the wrong lmao#mind you she knows my manager loved me and I'm getting a raise this week#and after i told her she said i have experience of a highschooler and I'm not ready for new york#well i sure as hell ain't gonna be ready for it living with you#god i hate it#ah and also me needing to hide my hips#delete later
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everyday i go online and get exposed to the worst takes imaginable and everyday i have to fight the urge not to kill
#according to the fan base malenia has one of two personalities#sheās either a cold bitch with no feeling or emotions#or sheās a raging karen who screams and shits herself when she doesnāt get her way#i guess it depends on what sites you go on#because youtube and tiktok have the worst takes on her character holy shit#just straight up vile over there chief ngl#people either demonize her to the extreme or dumb her down to this emotionless grunt who only does what her brother orders her to do#they act like she canāt think for herself and has no personality outside of Swordā¢#elden ring takes still continue to amaze me in 2024#i canāt wait for this dlc haha#āevery opinion is validā no some of yall are stupid and definitely not valid#i just donāt understand how they can look at this incredibly calm and composed person and then say she throws tantrums when she canāt win#lmao thatās YOU brother#i just know when people say that itās because thatās how they act when fighting her#malenia is such a chill person#she speaks in this measured tone even during the second phase cutscene#but yea even when she fights us she doesnāt act like some erratic lunatic#she fights with such precision and grace#long ass rant i'm sorry#malenia: *is calm cool and collected* the fandom: she rages and screams and shouts and rages and cries and RAGES
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Live Fast & Prosper
#VERY funny that the imposter Janeway is sort of doing her accent - did Neelix mention that to her too~??#'Also she talks like a thespian?? Which I guess is how everyone talks in Indiana.'#She also pulled the whole 'we're a workplace but I like to think of us...as a family :)' so you know she's not to be trusted#Also I fuckinglove how into it the guy playing fake Tuvok is...he's like INTO the role. Yet another criminal man obsessed with you#commander...what's your DEAL <3#I'm such a soft touch dude I felt so bad for the aliens being tricked heheheh#SNRKEHAHAHA ok...Tom & Neelix being pals is actually so funny. They're like 'how could this have happened...we're the toughest most street#smart guys in the book' OK. SURE. HEHEHEH#WHEN DID Y'ALL HAVE EDGE~?? /ESPECIALLY/ YOU TOM#Neelix was doing some shady shit (even though we all know he's a sofite) what'd you do besides get thrown in the clink Tom?#People who say there's no like...uhh character-only moments on Voyager just havent watched the show straight up#Neelix & Tom trying to swindle the EMH with a cup game <3 yeah...that's what this is all about#Janeway: (doing a great job being intimidating) / Tuvok: v_v mhm. / Janeway: Tell her all about it Tuvok.#Tuvok: O_O.....um......it's uh...whew it's bad over there....#Janeway: What about the prisons? / Tuvok: Oh yes the-the prisons....they don't give you lotion. You'll be deficient in at least THREE#vitamins before you're even brought to trial / Janeway: That's Enough of...that. <- trying not to laugh#Tuvok: (is an undercover agent) also Tuvok: I'm not good at small talk or improvisation.#Neelix how much did you talk about Tuvok bc this guy's really into it#Neelix: balablabla tuvok blablabla tuvok tuvok bla bla / Dala: ....(god this bitch is gay...good for me good for him)
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