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Fuck ok, gather 'round it's time for another fic idea spinning off of a crumb from my last post ab time traveling team Ro into founders era:
Summary:
Fact 1; Kakashi is now 3 weeks the last living Hatake.
Fact 2; Tobirama Senju, according to dusty old scrolls Kakashi finds in his father's study, was apparently half Hatake himself.
Lonley and hurting, Kakashi grabs on to this fact with both hands and squeezes it so tight to his aching heart that his hands bleed.
Or, still processing his father's suicide, Konoha's favorite baby genius finds out he's distantly related to history's favorite baby genius and immediatly starts projecting to cope.
Digging through old journals, history books, Kakashi begins to try his own hand at the man's favorite past time; creating jutsu's. It's the both the hardest thing he's ever done and the most satisfying to date.
Ft.
1) Weirdly chill scene with Danzo (fuck that guy but hear me out) where he kinda looks at Kakashi and sees the hint of the shadow of the man who taught him. Not quite there yet, not fully, but crumbs of it. Enough to make him nostalgic, and enough to hand over an old journal that used to belong to Tobirama.
A calculated risk, he tells himself.
An unspoken challenge, both Danzo and Kakashi understand.
He wants to see how far Kakashi can go, finds himself almost eager to see how close he can come to the shadow of the man he seems so determined to chase.
(and if this side project temporarily distracts him for long enough that Orochimaru slips through his fingers, well, it's not like he knows it was this event specifically that caused that plan to fall through)
2) The fact that, both due to time and the Hatake clan's less than stellar reputation during the warring states era, Tobirama's Hatake ancestry got buried. Kakashi finding him on a dusty old family tree has ✨️political implications✨️ for Kakashi specifically. Ones he isn't all too interested in — unless it means he might be able to access things he otherwise wouldn't've.
Also just general fun surprised Pikachu faces from some people as an added bonus.
3) Kakashi becoming even more terrifying than he rightfully should be at that age !! Danzo pretty much handed him a missile and went "lmao good luck" with that journal! He should not have that! He's learning things! He is experimenting! Someone take the missile away from the baby before he learns how to make his own— oh fuck it's too late hes somehow made a nuke instead
4) Orochimaru poking Kakashi with a stick and vice versa. They are making baby genius <--> baby genius eye contact it's mildly concerning, Minato is concerned. Obito is jealous, he wishes the Snake Sannin would poke HIM with a stick
5) Kakashi bites someone. That's it that's the bullet point I just think he should get to bite someone is all.
And more !!! Im ngl I think I like Tobirama just existing in the fic as as an ever present shadow, super influential in just every single chapter but never actually present. But I won't lie if I'm giggling over the thought of Kakashi finding Edo Tensei and going ".... ok but what better way to figure out this new jutsu / seal than to ask the source directly."
Orochimaru would so help he's having too much fun with this to bother experimenting on children for Danzo. Don't talk to him rn he's having fun with corpses!! No not the corpses you asked him to have fun with, the other ones!
#birds fic talk#naruto#kakashi hatake#hatake clan#hatake clan lore#naruto clan lore#warring states period#warring states era#dogteeth kakashi#tobirama senju#senju tobirama#hatake kakashi#kakashi#tobirama#danzo shimura#kid kakashi#hatake tobirama#obito uchiha#minato namikaze#orochimaru#snake sannin
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Sannin piece I did for @narutocookbook zine, one of my favorite pieces I have ever painted! Collab with fic and recipe which are both So. Good! Cookbook is currently in leftover sales, don't miss it it's a really great zine with loads of very cool items!! 💕🍥🍶
#jiraiya#tsunade#orochiaru#sannin#naruto#tsunade senju#naruto zine#naruto cookbook zine#my art#mine#i love this team so much and their era and their generation#you will pry them from my cold dead hands
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The difference in expressions here is really interesting to me. The first could be a range of emotions, up to and including Hiruzen's suggestion that Orochimaru might be glad to finally kill him, possibly with some small bit of nostalgia mixed in.
But the original manga panel? There's a lot of emotion there as well, but happiness is nowhere to be found.
#and i ask you WHY#orochimaru#hiruzen sarutobi#third hokage#naruto manga#this is why we need a sannin era prequel miniseries or something
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"If you wake up haunted, it's not my fault."
Jiraiya blows a raspberry. He faces the old falling down shack of a house. “Please. You asked me to explore this house so I’m going to explore it.”
In reality Orochimaru asked him to do no such thing. He just made up a problem to do so he could do something to prove to his team he isn’t afraid of anything, supernatural or not.
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❛ don't you think you've already done enough damage for one day? ❜
An overheating quarrel tightening the space between the slug and the toad came to a halt with the rise of the serpent. They had counted yet another night with eyes wide open, discovering the tunnels of a cave that seemed to have no route leading to the clear skies, their brains gradually giving in to the lack of oxygen.
The war has affected the sannin in various means, yet they have not been cornered enough to turn on one another until this very moment. Given realisation fuelled the words truthfully spoken by the man who had remained silent until the argument of the other two escalated to the higher stage, and for once the woman found her breath still.
Forcing her glare to meet the ground, she gathered the temper that had been lost, refusing to proceed with the matter so absurd. ❛ Let's just keep going ❜ softened the previous blow aimed at the man before her, ❛ there's no point in arguing over what's been done. ❜ echo addressed the company whilst the edges of her frame vanished in the shade.
@sagemom
#▐ | ANSWERED. ❛ ᶠᶦⁿᶦˢʰᵉᵈ ᵖᵃᵖᵉʳʷᵒʳᵏ;#▐ | SANNIN. ❛ ᵍᵉᵗ ˢᵐᵃᶜᵏᵉᵈ ᵈᵒʷⁿ ᵍᵉᵗ ᵇᵃᶜᵏ ᵘᵖ;#sagemom#i swear i cannot escape the era of the sannin asdfg
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I wouldn’t normally have more than one poll up at a time, but the one I currently have up (about your least favorite part of Naruto) has mostly stagnated and the results are pretty much decided unless something major changes.
#naruto#naruto shippuden#naruto poll#team 7#team 8#team 10#Ino-Shika-Cho trio#team gai#the sand siblings#team minato#the three sannin#team taka#akatsuki#anbu#root#naruto founders#founders era#warring states era#team kakashi#team yamato#team kurenai#team asuma#team hiruzen#konohagakure#Kirigakure#iwagakure#kumogakure#sunagakure#amegakure#Can you tell I don’t know what else I can tag this?
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tsunade had an emo phase where she dyed her hair black, wore many rings and piercings and had a big, dark eyeliner
she would also steal jiraiya's rock and heavy metal band shirts
#orochimaru helped with the eyeliner#she quickly moved on to her next era and changed her whole personality in the process as usual#tsunade#orochimaru#jiraiya#legendary sannin#naruto
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joke's on you i can go bonkers over any era
Okay what's your Naruto character/era primary focus like some people are more into the Akatsuki, some into the Konoha 12, some into Team Minato era, the Founders, Sannin, etc, like where do YOU generally gravitate
#naruto#naruto shippuden#admittedly i have a fondness for the warring states era the sannin pre-breakup and the rookie nine
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//if i had a nickel for every time i had rea haunt a loved one’s narrative i would have. so many nickels dsghsdghhdsg (even wrt the specific subsection of ‘dies permanently/indefinitely but still gets better!’)
#mun babbles //#mun fanfic babbles //#(bc i v much need like . a fanfic tag for muse related babbles unrelated to rp [unless ppl like want to rp them ig LOL])#(ie fgo reamom au or the giant naruto multiverses of her being sannin era etc)#or like . all of ferdiereabert#or post-mfrp stuff that while still relevant to specific muses is not relevant Directly to active rp here yk
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I love the legwarmers trio from Nanako SOS (ななこSOS), episode 8. I wish they had used this kind of outfit for Charming Figures of the Magical Girl Trio (艶姿魔法の三人娘) in 1986.
#Charming Figures of the Magical Girl Trio#艶姿魔法の三人娘#nanako sos#Adesugata Mahou no Sannin Musume#magical girl#majokko#ななこsos#魔女っ子#showa era#昭和
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Based on my last post, a List of Things Kishimoto Did Right in Naruto
After Sasuke left Orochimaru, having him find another team of powerful losers to hang out with
Making the Sannin super Great and Powerful and Legendary but also like an awful gambling addict, a porn writer, and a creepy mad scientist who later becomes a Boruto era milf
Ino-Shika-Cho and showing their dads do the same types of combos together
Making Kakashi a cool, capable jonin who’s also a pathetic loser who can’t keep his children in check and reads erotica in public
Itachi loving sweets and Sasuke hating them
Every goddamn thing about Killer Bee
Flashback to the Sage and the baby little tailed beasts
The Naruto-Kurama friendship and Kurama calling him a brat (endearing)
Kisame shark boy character design (and also the super unique character designs for all the different Akatsuki members)
Nagato-Yahiko-Konan froggy costumes and Naruto’s froggy wallet
Reverse harem jutsu on Kaguya
Kakashi sweet talking Yamato to get him to take over his responsibilities
That’s all for now feel free to add others
Edit to add: Kakashi’s ninja dogs (pakkun is so cutie)
#naruto ramblings#naruto#naruto shippuden#sasuke uchiha#tsunade senju#orochimaru#jiraiya#sannin#itachi and sasuke#killer bee#kurama#baby fox kurama#nagato uzumaki#yahiko#konan#froggy#inoshikacho#I love the little things in Naruto sm
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I think they're beautiful!
guys be honest do u think orochimaru is beautiful or am i delusional
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one thing that I find really really interesting is that in practically every scene where it's just jiraiya and tsunade alone, kishimoto very deliberately draws at least a panel of the two of them being completely silent in each other's companies, even refusing to look at each other.
when jiraiya got drinks with tsunade in og
when he got drinks with her before he left. notice that neither of them are making any eye contact, refusing to look at each other.
the iconic bench scene ofc
why this is important to me is cause I think it's an excellent way on kishi's part to show the dynamic and history between the two of them (and the sannin as a whole too). ((note this isn't a jiratsu post))
the few scenes we get of the two of them talking alone, you always get the impression that there's a secondary, entirely silent conversation going on in the background that only the two of them even know about. a conversation about all the things they cannot say. and he conveys that so well in these deliberate panels. you can SEE in their expressions, in the things that they do say when they choose to break the silence. there's so much between them, so much they yearn to say. and the weight of all of that, the depth of those feelings and emotions, is ultimately what makes them not say anything at all.
because you've known each other since you were SIX years old, you fought WARS together, this is a person you'd put your life on the line for without a second of hesitation. yet. there is a 20 year gap. you haven't spoken with each other for as long as you grew up together too. they've lived an entire lifetime together, but then an entire equally as long lifetime apart. they're the same person they've always been but yet... you can't really recognise the person in front of you. they both can see that they've become shells of the people they used to be. you both have gone through so much, and you know the the other person knows this. you know it so intimately, what things you can say, what things you can't. youre being so careful yet you both know there's this pretense going on.
there's so much left, yet so little. after all of that, what is there even left to be said? what CAN be said? they're already so intimately aware of what the other is thinking, there's nothing new, yet somehow, there's this gap. there's this emptiness that both know they can't really do anything about.
in the end, the sannin are a tragic trio. and kishi does an excellent job of showing this through their stories and histories, sure. but he does an even better job at showing it through their small interactions together. the way they always end up talking about the past, the attempt to bring up happier times (like tsunade trying to reminisce about their genin days as team hiruzen), yet how they ALWAYS come back to ultimately how they fell apart, and the world kept spinning, and all they can do is try to make sure the future doesn't make the same mistakes they did.
what can you even say to someone like that? it must've been so freeing, to have someone that understands them to such an extent. that would know them more than anyone else in the world ever could imagine. and yet. so suffocating. because they're a reminder. a reminder of what you used to be, a reminder of what could've been, a reminder of how everything went wrong, every single mistake you ever made. and so despite the person in front of you being the only person in the world that likely knows exactly how you're feeling, what you're going through, all your experiences, they're also somehow the last person you can ever speak to about any of it. because it becomes like a trap almost. they're constantly reminded of their pasts when they look at each other. how can you ever begin to move on with someone like that right in front of you?
once upon a time, they were the hope of konoha. they were the young shinobi, meant to bring in a new era of peace, meant to be the change. and they wholeheartedly believed this too. and then, to make it to 50, after everything they went through, and realising they were no better off than the generation before them. that everything they ever stood for, ever fought for, were all practically in vain. and how suddenly the people meant to be the change for the future can only hope to make sure there is still even a chance for change for the next generation.
really, what else are they meant to do around each other than continue their little dance or chess game and let the unspoken remain unspoken?
#like i said i have a lot of feelings and thoughts about the sannin#i cannot get enough of their dynamic#it doesnt help that kishi barely explores them at all#i want to see more of them#i wanna see how three carefree children grow up together and become as fractured as they did#theyre so different from team 7 too#cause team 7 doesnt have that much history that much shared experiences#team 7 are what the sannin couldve been if the sannin didnt give up sure#but there is definitely a reason that made the sannin give up in the first place#we need a prequel#sannin#jiraiya#tsunade#meta#hc#nart#naruto#naruto shippuden#the sannin#the legendary sannin#densetsu no sannin#tsunade senju#sorry im a rambler at heart#a yapper#i cant help myself#what is left????#this is what people mean when they say the silence is so loud its deafening#analysis#stream of consciousness#NOT A SHIP POST
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boruto era kakashi + godaime obito idea (with a ghostbito addition for the sillies)
omg guys hear me out, boruto era Kakashi getting into some shenanigans with a scroll and accidentally dimension traveling to a world where Obito is hokage and needs some help (minato, rin, and kushina r still kicking dwdw). I think in this other world, Obito would be the Godaime, he’s a little bit into the job- but still it’s new to him and he needs some help w it- but he doesn’t want to bug Minato too much about it / Hiruzen is not there but when is he ever lmao (interpret that as he already dead or just ready to peace out in a hospital bed). I think this could be obkk, but it’s much more explicit in the ghostbito addition. Obkk is like two birds on a wire for me, regardless of whether they are platonic or romantic, they will be together and no I won’t shut up about them.
So… Obito decides he’s gonna try some- interdimensional guidance, through the power of bs / tobirama what the fuck / hey this is fanfic don’t take it to seriously / help a boyfailure out here / minato’s well intentioned advice turned into the best or worst idea yet (bro could have added “this just my opinion tho” 😭😭😭) obito has himself an interesting little project. He finds one of Tobirama’s secret, personal projects. A scroll that erases itself everyday. Just kidding, a scroll that can communicate with other worlds (one that was never finished in his world, but was in Kakashi’s). While Tobirama never finished it, he speculates that in another world- he did finish it and if the scroll were ever finished in Hokagebito’s world, communication w/ that other world would be possible. He asks Kushina for advice without mentioning the scroll directly and raises her eyebrow, but ultimately just tells him bc she trusts Obito. Oh boy… so he gets the scroll working. Well done genius. “But what if it’s not another hokage?” There’s no harm in trying. Plus- the other person doesn’t NEED to know he’s the godaime- and worst comes to worst, he can just go RIPPPPP to that sucker lmao.
“Hey who this?” - Godaime. Nah im kidding, he writes a formal letter to the other side explaining that he completed Tobirama’s scroll, that he wants to see if it worked, that he needs… a friend. (Leaving out the fact that he’s the godaime)
Now, Kakashi gets the scroll in a very unique situation. Moreso- Tsunade gifted it to him on one of his birthdays (bc sakumo hung around w the sannin a lot) and was like “ur kid a little genius right, maybe he can figure out what this is for” bc Tobirama in Kakashi’s world never specified what it was for (or if he did, the note fell off). He’s never cared about it beyond “oh this was made by the second hokage!” (if u follow into the Tobirama is Kakashi’s grandpa theory, it’s a nice nod to his grandpa, I actually really like this head canon but I think I’ll leave it out of here). But it’s blank. Did Tsunade just-… gift him a blank scroll because the second hokage once touched it? For the next 30-40 years of his life, thats what Kakashi thinks and admittedly it’s really funny (and sweet in a way), so he keeps it on a shelf and looks at it whenever he needs to remember the simpler days.
And then, one day, the blank scroll has some writing on it.
Oh. It was- for talking with someone from another world? Okay… Kakashi’s seen weirder, still weird, but weird in a way he can somewhat comprehend. So he writes something on the other half of the scroll, and pretends that it doesn’t resemble Obito’s horrid writing (because what the hell?).
On the flip side, Obito is ecstatic, because it worked! Whoever wrote to him, must also be a hokage right? So he asks, “how did you get this scroll?”
“A friend gifted it to me”
“… you’re friends with the NIDAIME?” He has to be someone important then right?
“Not exactly.” Okay then, if he has the scroll, he has to be the current hokage. Because how could Tobirama let this scroll fall into just anyone’s hands?
“Who’s the hokage in your world?”
“Who’s the hokage in yours?” Wow, okay… and then “How many have there been in yours?”
“Five”
“Seven”
And so on. It’s like an online friendship in a way, except they’re chatting with someone worlds away. Eventually, Obito begins asking for advice (advice that’s thinly veiled as work advice (really it’s hokage work but he tries to mask it as something else)). Not because he knows the other was the Rokudaime, but because the other has become a bit of a… friend. Kakashi however, sees through this and when something only a hokage understand slips, confronts Hokage Obito “You’re the Godaime”
“Ah. Was it… obvious?”
“For the Rokudaime, yes.”
Oh. Obito becomes even more excited, and they begin signing off on their letters with Godaime and Rokudaime. Obito assumes that this Rokudaime is younger than him and apologies for asking so much advice (because if he’s the Rokudaime, the Obito in that world must have retired now). It’s just- this Rokudaime is so wise, knowledgeable, a bit of a know it all… reminds him of Kakashi. (Kakashi who he misses with all his heart, who should have been there to watch him become Hokage, who should have been there to help him with the damn papers.)
(Kakashi, whose death weighs on him heavier than any boulder).
Either way, he lets his age slip one day. On the other side, Kakashi just laughs “No, you’re younger. The kids over here have started calling me old man. How rude.” It goes on like that for a little longer. A few months into it, Minato, Rin, and Kushina find out what he’s been doing. They tease him of course, but they also worry. Obito says there’s nothing to be worried about, but still it’s some stranger right? On occasion, Rin watches as Obito writes to the stranger and wonders who could be on the other side. Kushina is worried but also upset that Obito never told her about his success! This is huge! How could he not tell her!? Minato is proud, worried, and calming down Kushina who goes on a tangent. One day, they decide to all see one of Obito and mysterious Rokudaime’s chats themselves. In some freak accident, there’s a bright glow. And then Obito’s gone, with only the scroll. Kushina obv begins to reverse engineer that crap to bring back Obito-
On the other side, Obito finally meets his inter dimensional pen pal.
What the fuck.
“YOU’RE THE ROKUDAIME?” “Obito?” That shuts him up really quickly, because Obito hasn’t heard Kakashi’s voice in such a long time. Aside from that, he’s never heard it in such a tone. “How?” Obito asks, “Was this a bet between us? Congratulations- I feel bad for this version of me though-” Kakashi makes some sad sound at that, his brows kind of furrow in a way that make’s Obito’s stomach twist. Obito can’t help but run up to this Kakashi and hug him. It’s not… too weird right? Technically they’re friends. And technically they did know each other! So, they sit on the blanket of grass, a bright clear blue sky day that Kakashi has decided to enjoy under a tree and one of jiraiya’s pervy novels??? They talk for a minute, two, three, then for about an hour until Obito can feel himself being pulled back. Before he is, he apologizes. For everything, for burdening Kakashi, for making him save Rin, for letting Kakashi fall apart, and for… Kakashi’s death.
Kakashi is in shock, but he assures Obito that… if it was him, truly him, then he had no problems with it.
When Obito returns to his world, he returns a little bit more confident, but also… he returns with tears in his eyes. Happy. Sad. Hopeful.
“I saw him. The Rokudaime. I saw Kakashi.”
Now… I could end this here. And, if you like leaving it at that, then it ends with the scroll being destroyed as a result of Kushina’s interference to bring Obito back. HOWEVER- if u like ghostbito / actual, solid not up to interpretation obkk have I got a pitch for u
GHOSTBITO IDEA
The scroll isn’t destroyed, rather, it gains a new attribute. Being able to travel between worlds, and when Obito is yanked back… so is Kakashi. Whoopsies! Cue, really really emotional scene, omg Kakashi grew up! OMG KAKASHI BECAME HOKAGE- and also cue, Obito showing Kakashi around his Konoha (which is sort of the same, but with many differences. For one, the Uchiha are still around. For two, Minato, Kushina, and Rin are alive. For three, Obito was Team 7’s sensei). Yeah it’s sort of a date, but Obito won’t admit that and Kakashi is oblivious bc free vacation (out of Obito’s salary).
When it’s time for Kakashi to go back, they decide. Maybe, they’ll keep seeing each other, keep being friends. Now they’re not, exactly each other’s Kakashi and Obito, but they can be new friends instead. A new introduction is needed, so they reintroduce themselves. Okay now, Ghostbito is def still looking out for Kakashi. Yeah he’s enjoying the afterlife w/ Rin, ofc, but sometimes… he can’t help but take a peak into Kakashi’s life. Now, seeing that Kakashi had a pen pal was exciting, fun even. Until he sees who the pen pal was, and until he (who’s attached to Kakashi) is also dragged into the dimension travel. Because NO! Kakashi is his teammate! That Obito is not him! It’s childish and Obito has 100% stopped being like that ages ago, but also he can’t help it. That Obito didn’t give Kakashi his eye, he did.
And he sees it, the things Kakashi misses, the way this Obito blushes around Kakashi like how he did around Rin all those years ago. The way this Obito offers his hand in jest (but not really) to drag Kakashi to all of his favorite spots. The way Kakashi looks happy-, oh. Kakashi looks happy. Who is he to ruin that for Kakashi? No, he won’t. Not again. And it’s not like he has beef with Kakashi… no, he has beef with… himself??? Well, he has beef with this Obito!!!
Cue, Godaime Obito getting haunted as ghostbito starts beefing w/ himself from another world. Both of whom, have feelings for Kakashi albeit only one of them can actually pursue him. I think Ghostbito wants Kakashi to move on, but like… NOT LIKE THIS 😭😭😭 in his opinion it’s like a downgrade like why couldn’t Kakashi just be w literally anyone else? Gai, Iruka, Anko, Yamato, Mei, Shizune- literally anyone else!!!
Feel free to add on, I just had a crack idea and began to roll with it. This also led me to another idea, but instead of Ghostbito and Godaimebito beefing it’s Jonin/about to be Godaime Obito and Post-war Obito beefing (w similar plot points being the dimension travel). I just think Obito having beef w every alternate self he encounters is really funny, that man doesn’t play, especially if it’s about his teammates like 😭😭😭 also the idea of Joninbito AU! Obito and Kakashi meeting Postwar AU Obito and Kakashi is funny, I’ll write it later methinks
#obikaka#kawkawramble#fic ideas#obito fight me uchiha#this is probably crack#ill think about it more and regret it in the morning
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The Naruto timeline is killing me. I know the general idea is that it’s been ~60 years since Konoha formed but everyone’s talking like Konoha has existed for forever.
It doesn't make sense! Tsunade is in her 50s in canon! she shouldn't talk about Konoha like it was well established when she was a child! By saying Tsunade is Hashirama's granddaughter instead of his daughter, we must interpret that Hashirama had a child like. a decade before Konoha formed, so that when Konoha is 10, Tsunade is born. But that's BATSHIT. that means anyone older than sixty– an age even front line shinobi can reach as evidenced by Hiruzen, and surely an age shinobi that specialize in skills that are less directly combative/take them out of the village often, MUCH LESS CIVILIANS!! You cannot make propaganda good enough to make an entire generation of senior citizens forget that your honorable village hasn't even hit a century.
There is such a big deal made of Hiruzen remembering a time before Konoha and so you expect him to be like. late 80s or 90s. old enough to makes him recalling that time suitably rare. old enough that every shinobi is like. wow. you're hot shit and also God Of Shinobi. But he's SIXTY EIGHT. Sakura's civilian grandparents probably remember a time before Konoha. This is not that big of a accomplishment. I don't care if Kishimoto thinks 60 years is a long ass time to a shinobi. It just doesn't work for the sort of worldbuilding he's trying to sell.
My only options are to either stretch the timeline to fit the vibes of "Konoha has been around soooooo long (while still be relatively new in the grand scheme of things)" or scrap all that "Konoha is ancient" shit.
......So. I’ve stretched it to Konoha being formed 100 years ago when canon starts (the year Naruto graduates the Academy). This is more reasonable, making it so that no one alive really Remembers A Time Before, making Konoha's propaganda much more effective.
This, however, has had some significant impact on Hiruzen's generation because even though I have made them significantly older when canon starts (like. mid 80s) they were still born about ~20 years after Konoha was founded. Early enough that some instability was around and Hiruzen's generation could personally know Hashirama and Tobirama, but they don't actually have any experience living through the Warring Clans Era. This has likewise made the Sannin much much older– around the same age as Hiruzen actually is in canon.
But Tsunade's age actually makes sense for her being Hashirama's granddaughter now! So there's that!
#Naruto#apple skin au#my posts#formatting this timeline has kicked my ass so hard. I had to redo it three times because keeping all the main characters#(rookie nine + teachers) the same age they are in canon while stretching the timeline was a bitch and a half. A way i solved this is having#a lot of parents (Sakumo + Hiruzen + unnamed Hashirama's child) have their children fairly late in life. which. doesn't make much sense for#shinobi. who generally don't make it to ~50.#So the horrible way I have circumvented is by saying that kunoichi tend to have way more miscarriages than civilians.#and that when kids that are born they tend to uh... sometimes kick the bucket before they reach 10.#meaning a LOT of canon adult characters were supposed to have like three more siblings if tragedy hadn't struck.#Sorry Kakashi! It's probably not going to come up in my fic but I gave you two older sisters that died before you were born!#this is great. I've both figured out an in-world reason for why shinobi would want civilian wives (and why civilian girls thought they had#a chance with sasuke) AND filled in some family trees AND made the shinobi world more suitably bloody#worldbuilding my beloved
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@oh-no-its-bird (In reference to this post because I didn't want to spam your comments) Ok so hear me out as I ramble. It's mentioned that Kaguya is killed 1000 years before Hashirama and Madara's time. I am thinking of an alternative to the BK (Before Konoha)/AK (After Konoha) marking Hagoromo and Hamura's defeat over Kaguya as the start of what may simply be referred to as the "Common Era" (CE). It's a bit unclear how long Kaguya rules after eating the chakra fruit, but considering how she went around wiping memories and trapping so many people in genjutsu and turning them into white Zetsu's etc etc in order to maintain her vision of peace, any history pre-Kaguya would have possibly been unreliable unless it was recorded and not destroyed by her as well. In the Naruto era Hagoromo is typically mentioned as a mythological figure, one people aren't sure to have ever existed, and Kaguya similarly. But I am sure that the whole ordeal would have been a big deal at the time that it happened. It's not like it would be the first time a culture choses to start noting years based mythology and legend, or an event that is later impossible to prove ever actually happened and seem too fantastical to actually be true. By the Naruto Era people may no longer be sure why exactly the count starts from that point, but it's convenient for the world to have an agreed upon way of noting years even if they can't agree upon anything else since the period of 'peace' Kaguya had led would come to an end and eventually the WS era that would go on until Hashirama and Madara's time would start. And having an ambiguous but simple 'Common Era' is more acceptable than measuring all of time based on whenever Konoha was founded which would be fairly recent history as far as we are concerned. Maybe parts of the CE would have either local or worldwide periods within it marked with names such as dynasties of certain ruling bodies ( Random Eg. 412 CE - 600 CE Nakai dynasti of the Land of Water), or like the Warring States Period. Sky's the limit. So what I'm thinking. The God Tree starts growing on earth 1000+ years before Kaguya arrives. It is unclear how many years passes between her arriving on earth, her eating the chakra fruit, and later being defeated by her sons. Her sons were born after she ate the fruit, and they did have time to grow up into adults, so I would assume that it would have at least been about 25-30 years unless you assume being celestial-human hybrids messed with their aging (which is very possible but for this case I'll assume not).
So here are a few but far from all notes with this from my own timeline. I can't be bothered to write every single thing over from my doc to here rn. This system is WIP but definitely prefer it over BK/AK. ~ 1030 BCE (or before) : the God tree would have started growing on earth ~ 30 BCE : Kaguya would arrive at earth Hagoromo and Hamura defeats Kaguya. Common Era begins ~ 1000 CE : Hashirama and Madara would have been born. 1001 CE : Kakuzu is born 1013 CE : Onoki is born 1020 CE : Hiruzen Sarutobi, Danzo Shimura etc etc are born (Tsunade's parent would have also been born around around this year or earlier) ~1024 - 1027 CE : Izuna Uchiha dies (24 yrs) 1028 CE : Konoha is founded (60 yrs before start of Naruto) 1038 CE : The Shinobi Academy of Konoha is founded (50yrs before start of Naruto), The Sannin are born 1044 CE : The Sannin graduate the academy (6yrs) 1048 CE : Mikoto Uchiha and Nawaki Senju are born 1052 CE : Minato Namikaze and Kushina Uzumaki are born 1060 CE : Nawaki Senju dies (12yrs) 1063 CE : Kakashi Hatake is born 1076 CE : Naruto Uzumaki is born, Sasuke Uchiha is born, Minato Namikaze and Kushina Uzumaki dies 1079 CE : The Hyuga Affair takes place 1083 CE : The Uchiha Massacre takes place 1088 CE : The events of Naruto starts. Hiruzen Sarutobi dies (68yrs) 1091 CE : The events of Shippuden starts
Thoughts?
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