#same goes to israel

[cimacally]

I dislike Taylor Swift but I don't dislike people you like her

I dislike spiders but I don't dislike people who like them

I dislike Nolan but I-

yes.

yes I do.

I hate you.

[arsenicflame]

Bootblacking is my favourite kink to give Izzy, because of course this guy would get his rocks off doing precise, repetitive, manual labour. OF COURSE he gets off on what is essentially just another chore on his list.

[ruthlesslistener]

Oh my fucking god will Israelis and Zionists shut the fuck up about people's hatred for Israel being only bc they're Jewish. No bitch people fucking hate you because for nearly an entire year now you've been yammering about how happy you are that your stupid fucking glorified American warbase has been routinely rounding innocent people up into horrifically inhumane conditions so that you could torture and bomb them to hell and back. You're the exact same shade of sick monster that evangelical republicans and islamic extremists are, you're a taint to the name of all the good people who you claim are traitors to your cause and you deserve to suffer the same horrors that the people of Gaza have endured under your regime, and all of the American politicians that back your false nation should be blown to bits right alongside of you.

[rose-morose]

in the wake of Hazbin Hotel's release I have been seeing a not insignificant number of Sera apologists amidst the fandom

there appear to be fans who are upset that others in the fandom view Sera as a villain or antagonist of some kind, often citing her care for Emily and Heaven, as well as her hesitance towards the annual extermination as indicators that she is meant to be a "morally grey" character rather than a villain

and here I thought genocide was bad

the entire world is having this very conversation now with Israel, Palestine, and the rest of the planet and their roles in the current genocide, and it may seem in poor taste to compare a real world genocide where real people are dying at this very moment to a silly cartoon, but I believe that this specific perspective speaks to a deeper issue of how people look at genocide and the media around it, an issues that ought to be addressed

the fact remains that Sera green lit a genocide in spite of her moral qualms, and now people are being exterminated like pests rather than human beings

Sera's justification for the genocide is the protection of her people, the same argument used by Israel and its supporters to justify their blatant genocide of Palestinians

the finger is often pointed at Adam and Lute as the real villains, and while they certainly are villains they are far from alone

I hardly think now is the time to be defending Sera's actions as understandable, if not entirely acceptable, as Emily put it "Extermination of human souls? Demon or not there is no reason to be doing this."

I don't mean to compare Palestinians to damned sinners or demons, I merely wish to point out that there is no justification for either of these genocides EVER. NEVER EVER.

PLEASE STOP ENTERTAINING ANY NOTION OF A JUSTIFICATION FOR ANY GENOCIDE.

THERE ISN'T ONE.

PERIOD.

and for the record, Lucifer isn't getting let off the hook, he shares the blame for what is happening, his new efforts to prevent future genocides means something, but it does not make up for or justify any previous crimes

there's some extra bits in the tags if that wasn't wordy enough for you

[p0ison-moon]

okay so here’s my salty bitchy problem with all the other Jews on here who get mad when they’re asked about Zionism. yeah I get that it’s annoying and offensive to have assumptions made about our stances on Israel just because we’re Jewish. However. H o w e v e r.

this kind of goes with the phrase “white silence is violence”. you know, by not speaking up we’re actually contributing to the damage? or, in this case, by “believing in Israel’s right to exist but not condoning anything it does, except we never talk about it ever” we’re actually normalizing ignoring everything that goes on in Israel and the occupied territories?*

furthermore, as a Jew I feel that it’s important to my identity and religion to care about Palestine. I could name the reasons straight out of pirkei avot if I felt like it. either way, I believe that social justice is almost the most crucial aspect to being Jewish. loyalty to a country that is actively oppressing and killing people on land it colonized is not important to my Jewish identity. In fact I’d probably feel like a bad Jew (something I get called a lot anyways) if I didn’t speak out about Palestine, because silence in the face of wrongdoing goes against everything I was ever taught about Judaism.

And that last bit is personal to me, but I would really really hope that our consciences would tell us that same thing anyways. at the very least I’d like to see less energy being put into thinking of more ways to say “asking Jews if they’re Zionist is bad” when that energy could be put towards helping Palestinians.

*and don’t even try to tell me that you as “liberal” Zionists on tumblr go out of your way to talk about and support Palestinians, because that’s hilariously false.

[cinderbagels]

When the whole flat earth movement started I really truly had a hard time believing there are that many people who run with those kinds of convictions in their minds.

Now? I'm still astounded by it, but now the list of people and conspiracies is that much longer

[thefairfolk]

You want a ceasefire and a sensible division of land between Israel and Palestine?

That's...an extremely Zionist position.

You believe there should be an Israel. This makes you a Zionist. The details of what that Israel looks like and its government are unimportant to Zionism. What matters is a Jewish state somewhere on that land. That's all that Zionism is.

It's a big umbrella ideology and you, my friend, are in the umbrella.

That does not mean you agree with Israel government or its policies.

It means you stand with Israeli PEOPLE.

The same way we stand with Palestinian PEOPLE and Iranian PEOPLE and not the governments of those places.

An extremely Zionist position lol bye 💀 y'all need to stop using that word on every random person without knowing exactly what it means. Pro-Palestine practicing Muslim here, hello.

I think Israel shouldn't have existed to begin with, but now that it does, it's not like we can force people away from there. We'd be no better than the Israelis calling for a genocide of Palestinians. Arguably, the best thing we could have would be for Israel to dissolve into Palestine and for the citizens to co-exist, preferably in a country known as Palestine. But we can't have that because, in a purely logical point of view, simply dismantling a single country is abominably difficult. It would arguably take many more years for such a thing to happen. What we need to do is consider the best course of action for innocents to survive. Everywhere.

[nappingpaperclip]

I worked with some amazing folk to do polling shifts yesterday for Super Tuesday and people said some really fucked up shit to some of my people! stuff like “they don’t need a ceasefire they need to be beaten to death” meanwhile the person we were campaigning for is Jewish…

its honestly fucked how many people mindlessly support Israel’s genocide, not because they care at all about the Jewish diaspora, but because they just hate Arabs and/or Muslims and want to see them wiped out. It’s fucking bizarre to see so many conservatives who parroted antisemitic conspiracy suddenly flip the script and start caring a whole lot about fighting ‘antisemitism’ at universities/in the workplace when they really mean anti-war protests. They are not just incredibly racist and Islamophobic, but antisemitic too because they would rather Israel wipe out Palestinians completely so that the US can have a stronghold ally in the Middle East and because they see it as a place to ship Jewish people off to

[magnoliamyrrh]

its been insane witnessing the full force of propaganda and american imperialism with my own two eyes as an adult these past few years. obviously ive known abt it plenty and seen it before, but witnessing it at this age with this much force is... dystopian and crazy

[rockandrolldisgrace]

a little vent

[confusedjewishnoises]

Me levanto todos los dias y me acuerdo que soy judio, bailo rikudim y educo jovenes de manera no formal y soy un poquito mas feliz...

pero despues abro las redes sociales y me acuerdo que vivimos en un mundo antisemita que usa su desinformacion y odio injustificado hacia mi pueblo para llevar una bandera de la cual no saben nada, gritando ser "antisionista no antisemitas", pero despues dicen que la unica solucion es que Israel deje de existir, como si la paz no hubiese sido e intentara ser una opcion. Pidiendo paz por el pueblo palestino pero reclamandole al gobierno equivocado (no defiendo al gobieno de bibi nethaniayu porque es la peor mierda que le paso a israel), que yo recuerde gaza es gobernado por un grupo terrorista que pone municiones en incubadoras, tira misisles desde departamentos, pone tuneles abajo de escuela y mata a aquellas personas que intentan huir o buscar ayuda humanitaria. Asi pensemos bien, no seria mas facil dejar su odio hacia un pueblo lastimado desde hace milenios, para ayudar a otro a recuperar su democracia y libertad de estos terroristas?. no es mejor pedir que liberen a los secuestrados? Que nos digan que paso con Kfir y Ariel? que tienen 1 (kfir cumplio el año en cautiverio) y 4 años y son ls unicos niños que siguen secuestrados, lo que significa que Hamas (para sorpresa de nadie) no cumplio con su parte del trato de liberar a TODOS los niños.

Por que ustedes pueden caminar con baderas palestinas y carteles que piden el exterminio de un pais entero (el unico estado judio, el cual esta rodeado por mas de 5 paises arabes que varias veces en sus 75 años quisieron destruirlo) y yo me tengo que preocupar si se me ve el maguen david o las letras en hebreo o digo una palabra en yidish, porque tengo que ver como un nene de 10 añostuvo que ser expatriado por su seguridad y ser traido a un pais donde nadie habla su idioma, donde tiene miedo y no sabe cuando es seguro volver a casa, porque le tengo que explicar a mis alumnos que hacemos una ceremonia con duelo porque se murieron miles de personas. les parece justo que la primer vez en la historia de las marchas del orgullo argentinas que iba a haber una carroza de las juventudes judias tuviese que ser cancelasa, porque estaba la posibilidad que nos lastimen, nos piedreen, nos pintara o nos balearan? mientras que las personas antisemitas caminaban con carteles y carrozas pidiendo que deje de existir el unico estado que realmente me protege como judio. Mi primer marcha y la tuve que vivir con miedo y escondido para que no me lastimen

Piden el cese de fuego, sabian que despues de la liberacion de algunos secuestrados, hubo un cese? Ah no? Sabian que Hamas rompio ese cese de fuego bombardeando una ciudad israeli 30 minustos despues de que haya arrancado el cese? Y quw cada vez que se pidio un cese con la unica condicion de que se liberaran a los secuestrados y los cuerpos de los muertos HAMAS se nego?

No hay que "liberar" a Gaza de el falso apartheid israeli que los medios nefastos inventaron, hay que liberarlos de los terroristas que no les permiten huir, comer, vivir en paz, VIVIR. Les mismes gazaties les piden a las FDI que saquen a Hamas. Esto no es una guerra contra un pueblo es una guerra contra terrorista, no voluntaios, no luchadores por la libertad, no martires ni heroes ni nada de eso, TERROSITAS, que se visten de civil y se rodean de civiles para que sus muertes parezcan una masacre intencional.

Estoy cansado de ver como el pueblo judio sufre, como desde hace mas de 4 meses lo unico que queremos es que la pesadilla pare y todo vuelva a como era antes del 7, pero no se puede, porque los muertos siguen muertos, los heridos heridos, los niños traumados, los padres sin hijos y los hijos sin padres, mi amiga sin sus tios, las casas siguen quemadas, kfir sigue cumpliando meses en un pozo, los soldados siguen cayendo, las bombas tambien, el pueblo israeli y palestino sigue sufriendo por culpa de Hamas, les judies de la diaspora sigue escondiendo su maguen david y llorando a gente que nunca conocio y aun asi esta contectada a todes nosotres. Pasaron mas de 4 meses y no vamos a parar hasta que la ultima persona vuelva a su casa

Y hoy mas que nunca grito y gritamo

AM ISRAEL JAI

EL PUEBLO DE ISRAEL SIGUE Y SEGUIRA VIVO

[guardiansing]

Throughout the progression of the Israeli IDF bombing of the Gaza Strip, I was surprised to see people I had connected to and people I trusted become either supportive or indifferent to the Israeli government. These people, whom I saw as fellow left-leaning folks, staggeringly began siding with the neo-conservative lens regarding Palestine. They say that the Israeli government is our ally and so excuse the actions of the US government, that it is simply our foreign policy as if our foreign policy is an absolute we must all respect and uphold to. They refuse to engage in learning about the history, modern or otherwise, simply because it makes them uncomfortable. They say It is unhealthy to engage in something so depressing all of the time, it is unhealthy to be agitating all of the time. The people suffering do not care if you are talking about them, and so it is best that we do not talk about them at all. We will do anything to push back against the people talking about it, we will do anything to avoid uncomfortable conversations about our shared reality, we will do anything to suppress it.

For better or worse this is the prevailing opinion I have seen in many of my circles, often those who even if they oppose the Israeli government feel that the situation is out of their hands. They continue to tell themselves that it is a foreign conflict and nothing more, and for that reason we are abstained from discussing it. To them, the most notable thing about this humanitarian crisis is that it is depressing to talk about and so would rather keep it silent. To them it is simply a fad that will go away naturally with time

Within my circles and communities, it is largely people of color, myself included, who continue showing support for the end of the invasion. To us, this is not a foreign conflict, nor is it justified by US foreign policy. To us it is the very same battle that people have been fighting ever since this country was first settled. What many Palestinians are experiencing and in fact what they have been experiencing for 80 years is not imaginary to us, it is not a statistic. We have experienced it, we know what it is like. Our wound is not so old.

I have watched on as white people within the queer community who claimed to be leftists, people who agitate for the equality of gay and trans people, grow silent in the discussion of class and race segregation. Refuse to acknowledge their material conditions or analyze their personal biases, believing in their white guilt that their queerness and/or ability at relying progressive sounding rhetoric abstains them from the blind spots of privilege. They will say that criticizing the Israeli government is anti-semantic and so they reveal that they do not see Jewish people as being truly human and non-monolithic, but instead as a race of people to whom suffering and oppression are inherent. A people to whom their government is endemic to their nation.

They reveal that they are not indeed leftists as they may claim, but instead are liberals. People believing supremely in their individual liberties and comforts. They see the world as consisting of good and bad teams, the oppressor and the oppressed instead of actions, effects, and contexts. They oppose every war except the current one and support every movement except the current one. They say it all when they describe Hamas as a terrorist group and Likud as Likud.

At the very least, they see the cause as being lost and so have already fallen into a state of depressive apathy. They are not evil, they aren't bad people. They have been hurt before and do not see a lost cause as something worth spending energy on. In an apathetic world such as ours it is easy for you yourself to become apathetic. We have very little power in what we can do as individuals. As a collective we theoretically have all the power in the world. But some have chosen to give away all their power entirely, opting for the comfort of their ivory tower.

Were Donald Trump to win the next election and the GOP preceded to do all the things promised in project 2025, I wonder if the people who hold these beliefs would be the freedom partisans they claim they'd be.

Or would they do nothing and instead choose to wallow in their apathy, seeing the cause as lost and letting it go by.

[cold-knees]

Can we talk about how fucking bizarre it is that Israel did so well? Like obviously it's just a bad song - it's generic (& it says a lot that the bit that they replayed for voting was just her dancing, with no singing iirc). But also the audacity of "you stand there and call me names but I'm not your enemy" REALLY!?

[anarchomccarthyist]

if you’re a white american calling for the death of jewish israeli civilians because they live in a violent, racist, colonial state: kill yourself! if you actually think that’s what decolonization looks like, then if you’re being consistent, then you think that you and everyone you know and love deserves to die.

[moriphyte]

just debated a zionist at work i need a fuckin smoke

[hunrising]

I want the patience and restraint that this man has shown in the last few days cause I could not do it