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Couldn’t find this video on here anymore so had to post my favorite scene
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crawled out of my spreadsheet-lined cave to participate in Donut Week! (hosted by @donutweek) Prompt for day 1 was "food" so i took us to post-season 17 where the rest of the gang baked a cake for donut (for wash too, but mostly donut!!) as an apology for cleaning up their mess
#rvb#red vs blue#donutweek24#agent washington#franklin delano donut#rvb art#washnut#rvb17#rvb 17#rvb 17 spoilers#the shisno trilogy#rvb season 17#rvb singularity#donutweek2024#my art <3
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#red vs blue#rvb17#rvb singularity#shisno trilogy#franklin delano donut#rvb chrovos#rvb genkins#frank dufresne#rvb doc#epsilon ai#epsilon church#lavernius tucker#Superego tucker#rvb Cosmic Powers#Burnstorm#michael j caboose#agent carolina#leonard church#lopez the heavy
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@biggiedraws
HELLO WOULD YOU LIKE. ahem. hello would you like to hear our attempt at explaining 16 (and 17)’s time travel. this was written a little while ago for our discord so it’s a little ramble-y but:
season 16 time travel does follow a certain amount of consistency. there is a “present” time that is always moving forward. people in the present will always be in the present. however you can go back and mess with the past, and that changes the present, but the people living in the present will still have always been in their own present so they will recognize the changes to the past. this matches with when simmons and sarge send too many ppl through the time hole and get spit out in the present, because they are from the present, and so that’s where they return to.
the existence of paradoxes doesnt make sense in this model tho. the everwhen stuff does fit in it though. the present versions of the reds and blues are always synced up, even when traveling around through their own timelines.
the paradox stuff can fit into the model tho if you consider that interacting with your own timeline creates a closed loop rather than an altered past. this is seen with Tucker shooting flowers, kai and Tucker hooking up, and the part where future simmons tells past simmons what to do
black hole stuff doesn’t really fit into this but the black hole stuff doesn’t really fit into… any coherent time travel narrative (which is annoying bc 17 was SO consistent with how the everwhen worked why did you drop the ball). why would genkins be locked up if he turns into chrovos. if genkins is chrovos then what happens to chrovos at the end of time. also why would they not know that black holes are cyclical like. that seems like something time gods should knows.
however if we say that time infinitely repeats itself and that black holes do not take them to the beginning of time, but rather to the beginning of time in the NEXT universe, it can make sense.
EDIT FROM THE FUTURE: the sammy raphealo timeloop doesn’t fit into this model at all but i think one thing unexplained is better than the canon everything unexplained. also i don’t 100% remember what i meant with that last point but hey wasn’t the late philip j fry a really good episode of futurama.
OKAY I STARTED EDITORIALIZING WAYYY TOO MUCH IM JUST GONNA MAKE A NEW POST WITH MY CURRENT THOUGHTS SEE ME IN LIKE 20 FOR MORE
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This is my new favorite image as a trans man who adores Washington.
made myself a new header aka trans wash rights!! others feel free to use just credit me!!
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Thoughts on RvB Restoration Finale
not really that long just my 2 cents
I wanna say I liked the movie because I did enjoy myself watching it, but honestly I'm very much gonna stick to the RvB17 open ended finale
Overall the movie was... ok? It wasn't unwatchably bad the way RvB Zero was but it also just made a lot of choices that I disagree with fundamentally both with the writing and the core themes of the series as a whole. I've had this take ever since RvB14 on the fanbase and the writers but this movie flat out says it:
The writers are fucking unable to let go of PFL and Chorus in a meaningful way.
For a series thats core message is about saying goodbye, they literally dont let that part of the show die. They are functionally unable to let go of the past peaks of the franchise and write something new. And I get it: RvB fundamentally cycles with its storytelling, but what was so refreshing to me about RvB14-17 was that it actually progressed itself Past those peaks of RvB10 and 11-13 (and honestly people REALLY dont appreciate the good in those later seasons). It felt like a natural (if wacky) progression, and it definitely wasnt perfect but it gave the extended cast more opportunities to shine in ways we didnt appreciate before
This movie just doesnt do that? Honestly the fact that they KILLED Sarge and Doc was so... disrespectful to me? Like not in the sense that it was as bad as how RvB Zero (fake) killed Tucker, but more like it felt like the writers killed them off because they were following a book titled "How To Write Story" and saw 'killing off characters is good writing'. Sarge got a dramatic send off that also didnt feel that impactful? And I did see it coming from the start but having Doc be Washs' guilt haunting him just left a bad taste in my mouth.
Its a really self contained story, a whole bunch of characters outside the main 3 reds and Caboose felt ooc, a good chunk of characters dont even show up (dude where was DONUT??? youre telling me he only has 5 seconds in Simmons' mind in a cheerleading costume?), it was composed of like 3-4 sets total, Carolina, Tex and 479er all just kind of Show Up to be badasses in the way The New Person would show up in an MCU movie...
Honestly watching this movie I kind of felt like it would have a twist ending. Like the credits would play and then itd zoom out to show the Reds and Blues post S17 in a movie theater watching this dramatic finale, because thats honestly what it felt like: The whole movie was a cheap facsimile of RvB as a whole. The fact that Trocadero wasn't allowed/signed on to make the music for this finale really does influence this movie, since they used a whole bunch of songs and osts that felt out of place (though I will admit Vale Deah softly playing as Grimmons said goodbye to each other did make me choke up a little)
Despite my negative review, I do still recommend watching it, since there was stuff I did like: Simmons in a leader role, Tex and the fun reveal during her fight with Tucker-Meta, Grif FINALLY getting to retire, Caboose as a whole was really well written, there IS good in this movie! And again it's not unwatchable bad, it just... kind of leaves a somber, sour taste in my mouth. This movie threw a whole bunch of stuff to the wall not to see what would stick but to break it all and leave for the insurance money. Just a "hey since we're sinking might as well make all these callbacks and break a bunch of stuff along the way."
Welp. Goodbye, RvB. At least this way I know that RT dies without riding your coattails any longer. And hey given that RvB technically has 3 endings (RvB17, Zero and RvB19) you can just take your pick on what you like best anyways. Quick edit no jutsu I forgor to mention there is the sequence at the beginning of the movie where it is implied RvB19 COULD also be one of the simulations in and of itself so. yeah you can in fact just take it as you will
#my thoughts are mostly negative but there Is some good in this movie. whatever#rvb#rvb19#rvb restoration#rvb spoilers
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sorry for spam but also Nobody understands meeeeee.i havent been like actually For Real Genuine excited about a Show thing coming out since fucking. rvb17 actually
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Okay ngl my favorite moment in the entirety of RvB is Simmons' soft little "y'alright?" when Sarge is having his breakdown in S16.
And also, tangentially related, my favorite moment in S17 is Wash's patented Mom Voice "Simmons!" before Simmons technically knows him beyond "that guy we met that one time who just shot my teammate."
#rvb#agent washington#dick simmons#rvb16#rvb17#idky but. simmons has oldest daughter vibes#wheres my trans simmons whos got younger bio siblings and grew up as deputy mom#resulting in deep seated insecurities about his value as a person if hes not living for others#and bone deep relief whenever A Competent Authority comes along and he can 'clock out' so to speak
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PT/masculine bi mlm: light green - attraction to all genders, teal - harmony, blue - masculinity.
Feminine bi mlm: dark pink - feminity, light pink - passion, whitish pink - attraction to all genders./end PT
ID/two flags of 3 uneven horizontal stripes, one big, second small and third big in size. The colors of the first flag are from top to bottom light green, teal, and blue. The colors of the second flag are from top to bottom dark pink, light pink, and whitish pink./end ID
masculine and feminine bisexual mlm flags! If you have any feedback I’d love to hear! here are the meanings in order:
masculine bi mlm: light green - attraction to all genders, teal - harmony, blue - masculinity
feminine bi mlm: dark pink - femininity, light pink - passion, whitish pink - attraction to all genders
(these are free to use but I’d appreciate credit)
#has id#user rvb17-remade#mlm flags#bi flags#feminine bi#masculine bi#bi mlm#feminine bi mlm#masculine bi mlm#bi#bisexual#mlm#: unlisted
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dudes this theory is so cool!!!
EroticToaster69’s theory on the origins of Wyoming’s time distortion unit
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Please tell me theres fanfic of this
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btw if any of you guys who follow me don’t want spoilers for rvb season 17. you’re gonna wanna mute the tag “rvb 17” for me because i’m gonna be posting a re-draw of an old rvb17 angst drawing soon lol
#rvb#me yapping#found it in my instagram archives because i didn’t like how it turned out back then#four more years of art experience… hopefully i can do 17 year old me’s vision justice
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When you guys were watching s17 did you get episode descriptions before the episode came out? Because I feel like that would've been amazing, all the s17 descriptions are hilarious
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i understand saying 16 as your least favorite but 17 is wild. 17 is a consistently solid season with a coherent time travel mechanic (…for the most part. genkins ending is weird), a fun villain, consistently good characterization and character growth, an incredible set piece with the labyrinth, and, frankly, a pretty damn good job at tying up all the messes 16 left on its plate.
it ain’t fucking prestige television but to say it’s the worst? i think ppl are just mixing it in with the seasons that came before and after
#if you do hate 17 for reasons specific to 17 PLEASE feel free to tell me. i love to hear other ppls critiques on stuff#i think 11 and 17 are the only seasons post 8 that have a solid premise that it’s consistent with the whole way through#rvb17#<- i feel like i should be fucking. organizing my thoughts on individual seasons. god i really need a coherent tagging system.
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yeah so i found out i kinda love this little fruit
this fc for genkins belongs to @calhanx , its literally so good
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PT/NB Bisexual flag!/end PT
NB Bisexual flag!
for when ur nb and bisexual. I used the nb flag and colors from the bi flag!
feel free to use with or without credit!
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