#ruin your fandom experience

[emmalalairalie]

I think more people need to know its okay to enjoy problematic media, as long as you KNOW and ACKNOWLEDGE that it's problematic. A lot of people's response to someone trying to call out their favourite author or artist is to blindly defend them because in their head, they can only enjoy the media that person has created if that person is completely ethical and has never done anything wrong. And sure, you shouldn't actively support someone who causes harm to others or anything, but you're still allowed to like their art. Separating the art from the artist is a continually debated issue but my stance on it is if you see the flaws and recognise where it comes from, and you don't like the artist, then that has to be enough. It saves you from looking like an idiot scrambling to defend a problematic author so you feel like you're not supporting a bad person. There is a way to enjoy problematic media without you yourself being problematic.

[princeloww]

is it pretentious that sometimes i just stare at people on tiktok and think they would benefit so much from experiencing fandom literally anywhere else. people on tiktok take it so seriously relax guys nobody's watching. the teacher isn't behind you

[chimera-dolls]

Cos I saw someone 'defending' their misuse of the dollblr tag after receiving an ask about it because 'other people do it' - this is why it's a fucking problem in the first place. It is against TOS. It is unrelated to your post, it is spam, and don't be surprised if everything you post gets reported.

Just because other people spam the tag too, doesn't magically excempt it from TOS or user guidelines. Like at this point I am straight up breaking this down to bare bones website operation here, what's so hard to understand? It's shit like this that literally degrades website quality because as you spread your crap over multiple tags that are accumulating like a goddamn snowball, people stop actually using those tags for the topic they were meant for. People stop posting. People leave. Welcome to dead internet.

It doesn't matter if you see other people doing it, rules are rules. There is a reason WHY tag spam is against the rules and that's to keep a website useable. Actual Dollbr-bloggers? Keep reporting guys.

[nicasdreamer]

A message about toxicity in fandoms

I’m so tired of hearing people call a fandom toxic for the wrong reasons. When most people say this, they don’t mean it’s toxic because the piece of media they love has harmful/negative messages in it that is imitated or listened to. No, they meant to say that it becomes toxic because of us, the fans.

A fandom only earns that title because of the actions by a small group of fans. From constant infighting to adult fans grooming minors, that’s what easily tears a fandom apart. Their actions leave a negative mark in the fandom, and in turn, pushes away new people who potentially wanted to join but got scared off because they heard more about the negatives then the positives of the community.

A lot of fans don’t realize how much their behaviors and choices can impact the reputation of the material they’re a fan of. It’s gets less known for its actual content and more known for it’s fandom. Like how BNHA/MHA is more infamous for some of the fans behavior than the actual stuff in the manga/anime.

We need to just stop this behavior, especially the smaller fandoms. All of this toxicity is the reason people leave fandoms!

If you have problems with someone on here and decide to make a call out post about them, please make sure it’s to address ACTUAL problematic fans (Ex: Groomers, Abusers, Toxic fans harassing others).

If you just don’t like them for reasons not serious enough for others to be concerned about then block, mute, and ignore anymore interactions with them. No need to call out someone if the situation between you two can be easily settled in private. Be more mature about your problems instead of continuously making yourself look bad.

Keep making enemies out of those around you and you’ll never find true happiness with others.

Don’t let the actions of a few people leave a bad impression of the fandom towards you! Be positive! Show off the good side! Be friendly and inviting towards old and new fans! We’re suppose to be a community that’s nice to eachother and enjoying the piece of media we love, not a community that gossips and hurts eachother!

PLEASE…..Just be respectful and empathetic towards eachother.

[pr]

you can tell how many new baby gaylors there are bc this was such a nothingburger statement it is literally not worth getting upset about at all like aldhalahalaah in 2014/5 she liked a tumblr post calling gaylors "freaks" (after liking a string of posts where ppl were saying she was grabbing karlie's ass) pls relax life goes on

[musicalmoritz]

Defending Kousano online isn’t enough, I need to reach into people’s brains and make them understand that sapphic ships deserve to be just as complicated as mlm ones, and that a wlw ship being toxic doesn’t automatically make it unlikable. For years femslash ships in male-dominated media were only depicted as the “fluffy side-pairings” and we’ve been seeing a shift in that lately with the rise of “toxic yuri.” This is good!! Fluffy ships are great but lesbians deserve just as much diversity in their pairings as ships that involve men. Not everyone likes toxic ships but the people who do don’t deserve to be called evil when they’re not doing anything inherently wrong. The two strongest arguments against Kousano (“people only ship it because it’s hot” + “it would be toxic”) sound so hypocritical when you take into account how those same antis eat up mlm ships with the same problems. Most Kousano shippers are lesbians anyways so calling people lesbiphobic for liking the ship is both chronically online and just plain stupid

[batwynn]

So uh, look. I’m not a huge fan of Neil Gaiman as a person, mostly due to some things he’s said, done, or not done in the past (still enjoyed plenty of his books and a big fan of Good Omens with Terry.) but some of the shit people online are saying to him are mildly-to-extremely inappropriate and you need to reset some boundaries on yourselves. Take this from someone who was mildly popular in a fandom for a while there. It can be genuinely scary to receive threatening messages out of the blue from a complete fucking stranger. Especially when you have no point of reference about what they’re threatening you about, if it’s even a joke, etc.

Just because he’s made himself accessible to fans does not mean you can treat him like your Tumblr bestie with violent, threatening inside jokes. He’s not your buddy. You can’t lol your way out of sending threatening messages to a stranger. This is literally the reason your past faves stopped interacting with fans online. (Trust me, I was in the Marvel fandom when Loki/Tom arrived.) This will end as it usually does, with him being forced to leave online spaces and become inaccessible again. And then y’all will bitch and whine that he thinks he’s ‘too good’ for you or whatever and the cycle starts all over again with someone else famous.

Please. Please just learn to fucking behave. Be a weird (affectionate) and violent gremlin in your personal blog spaces or discord or wtfever. Don’t send it to a public figure just trying to have a good time in the fandom. Ok? Can we try to be better this time?

[ace-s-fav-dp-posts]

If you're sick of the current popular trope/story prompt in the Phandom or DPxDC fandom you just need to ignore it

I feel like the fans in the Phandom and DPxDC minifandom that's popped up, who are really grossed/creeped out by the genre of fic popular right now.

Where the set up is some variation of Outsider POV and the plot is based around the assumption that Vlad SAed Danny in order to create Dan and Danielle, are people who haven't been around that long.

Especially when they try to whine about none of it being based in canon. And how they don't like the shipping of Vlad and Danny (even though the people who write these kinds of fics are very obviously not shipping Vlad and Danny in them).

Because the Phandom has historically gone through phases much more gruesome and horrifying than that.

Especially when in this current micro-genre, all of the SA and grooming and other kinds of abuse are implied only, and within the fics themselves the assumed abuse never actually happened. As the plot is based on over heard or misinterpreted fragments of information that doesn't give the POV character the full picture of the situation that's actually going on.

There's the infamous vivisection fics, in which the child main character is brutally cut open and tortured by his own parents in the name of their biased views of science. Who in canon, both happily accept him no matter what every time a reveal is happens and never so much as rejects Danny emotionally.

Then there's the variation on the traditional vivisection fic in which Danny isn't emotionally rejected and stripped of his humanity by his own parents. But instead captured and stripped of his human rights by the government, either by his parents unknowing actions which they stay oblivious to. Or in spite of his parent's acceptance of him, and with them helpless to rescue or protect him from the government's torturous "research".

There's the already existing variation of grooming and SA fics, where Vlad grooms and or assaults Danny. Which have been popping up for years now, but in which all of this type of horrible abuse actually happens in the story, instead of it being an Outside POV misunderstanding what's happen like the current micro genre of fic.

There's the fics where the Fentons have just been abusive or just negligent parents Danny and Jazz's entire lives. And them hurting Danny, emotionally or physically, intentionally or accidentally, is just an extension of their already unacceptable parenting habits.

There's the edritch/body horror genre of fics where becoming half-ghost (or sometimes something else) involves at the very least the partial loss of Danny (or Vlad)'s humanity.

Hell there's one fic that's stuck with me for ages, that I read years ago, back in my teens, written from the POV of a Maddie who murdered Danny to prevent him from becoming Dan. Which is stated in that fic to be inevitable.

It's also heavily implied that Maddie had incestuous feelings for Danny the entire fic. And that she also possibly raped him in the midst of her extremely violent* vivisection murder of him. But that if she didn't rape him, at the very least, ripping him open to see his insides while he was awake and struggling got her off anyways.

So yeah, I don't know what other explanation there is to all these people who seem confused and freaked out by the various fics popping up where there's assumed SA/grooming, but actually nothing outside of canon actually happened to Danny, and the whole thing is just a misunderstanding.

Other than them being extremely new to Danny Phantom fics in general and therefore unaware of just how dark (and potentially triggering) they can be.

When there's been fics for years about SA and grooming, some of which is explicit, some of which is all implied and talked around and just as gut wrenching, and some of which is actually painted in that cringe forbidden love sort of way, for more than a literal decade now.

If you don't like it, if it makes you uncomfortable, you're just going to have to ignore or block those people, like everyone else in the Phandom who feels the way you do has done for more than a decade now.

Don't make comments to those authors that you don't like that trope, or that it makes you uncomfortable, or anything similar. Just ignore them or block them if it really bothers you that much. Because if you don't like their stuff, then rather obviously you are not their intended audience, so you need to ignore their posts and fics and keep scrolling if you're not going to block them.

*Also yes I must state it was a violent vivisection murder. Because it is clearly stated in the fic, that Vlad finds Maddie sitting outside on the porch covered in Danny's blood and viscera, and that the room she killed him in is in a similar state.

I wanna say the fic got deleted during the old Fanfiction.net purge of more adult content, even though all of the sexual abuse/incest parts of the fic where all implied and not explicit, along with the violent vivisectoin murder taking place off screen.

Though I could be wrong, and it's still out there somewhere, and possibly not exactly as I remember it. I read it more than 5 years ago now, so there's almost certainly some memory drift by this point.

[bigassbowlingballhead]

Not a healthy take. This is genuinely so strange to see, it’s strange to feel. This is about someone’s real life and you can’t handle seeing it??

Get some help babes.

[emmalalairalie]

I think more people need to know its okay to enjoy problematic media, as long as you KNOW and ACKNOWLEDGE that it's problematic. A lot of people's response to someone trying to call out their favourite author or artist is to blindly defend them because in their head, they can only enjoy the media that person has created if that person is completely ethical and has never done anything wrong. And sure, you shouldn't actively support someone who causes harm to others or anything, but you're still allowed to like their art. Separating the art from the artist is a continually debated issue but my stance on it is if you see the flaws and recognise where it comes from, and you don't like the artist, then that has to be enough. It saves you from looking like an idiot scrambling to defend a problematic author so you feel like you're not supporting a bad person. There is a way to enjoy problematic media without you yourself being problematic.

[akascow]

watching playthroughs of a couple new indie horror games people are raving about rn and just sitting there after like oh thats it ?

[thatswhatsushesaid]

I didn't have a strong feeling about JGY at first but honestly after watching you act like a rabid terrier shitting up this fandom for months I've started to get annoyed even seeing mentions of him. Just get a life and leave people alone it's not that hard.

this is so offensive, i am FULLY vaccinated.

[mystical-blaise]

Dipping out of the Tumblr fandom until next week at the earliest because it's a fucking minefield of HOFAS spoilers on here. Jesus H. Christ. THE BOOK ISN'T EVEN FUCKING OUT YET. As someone who was spoiled last time, it's fucking rude to try to ruin the experience of discovery via reading the actual book. If you're excited? Cool. I don't want to know you read it, are reading it, and if you did, kindly stop trying to send people your theories/reactions/etc to people you don't know if they have read it yet. It's rude and entitled. In conclusion, don't be a HOFAS Spoiler Cunt and I'll see you all in a week or two.

If you are wondering about the #Nestaq fic, the next chapter will be up this week. Keep track of my Insta or Ao3.

[aromanticannibal]

ppl really b acting as if there's only one specific ship that has weird shippers that will complain about ppl not shipping their otp. it's literally always the case you either get fucked over for liking a gay ship or for liking a straight ship or for liking a toxic ship or people just start going "oh there's nothing wrong with the ship but the shippers💀" and you don't fucking know what they're talking about. like can we all just chill. the weird shippers r everywhere it's called some ppl are assholes sometimes. it's not fandom specific

[neyafromfrance95]

i'm so sorry to see that you're being vagueposted about for your sylki takes. it may be true that how you see sylki is a bit different than a certain section of the fandom, but that doesn't at ALL mean that you shouldn't be allowed to have your own takes! fwiw, i followed you bc i actually agree with and really enjoy ur perspective on sylki. i was getting frustrated with how many people seem to view this ship in a super heteronormative way and want sylvie to basically become a housewife, and i was so glad to find a blog that felt the same way. this fandom has become tiring tbh with how many people are now freaking out that sylvie hasn't immediately started having lokis babies in s2, and i really wish that people would at least leave room for others to have their own opinions!

this! that section of sylki shippers do not leave any room for you to have your opinions! they act like a fanon police controlling what you say in your posts on your blog!

and god forbid that what you say opposes their own hcs and takes, if you commit this unforgivable sin of having a take that is different from theirs, you better be ready for some good old online group harassment! they will make you feel like you are not welcome in this fandom, they will make sure that you are hurt, they will alienate you and force you out!

but no, you are the bad guy for jokingly calling a fandom in general "vanilla" and saying (after several disclaimers that it's your personal opinion) that when it comes to canon, you don't think that sylvie should be all about being loki's housewife.

at this point i honestly hate this fandom. there are some decent sylkis out there and i love the ship itself, but a big portion of the fandom has simply sucked all the joy for the series out of me. i wonder if they realize what the consequences of their behavior could be? back when i said (in my blog) that i don't think sylvie having babies is a compelling completion of her story in canon, and this bunch came to my blog to harass me for my takes, i was in a very *very* bad place already, and the space that was supposed to be my escape pretty much turned on me and added up to an already depressing state i was in.

and bfr anyone says that it's just a fandom wank, let me tell you that these people know how to be really cruel, whether they realize it or not, their behavior is simply cruel. they don't just argue in favor of their opinion, they shit on you personally, get aggressive towards you personally, make you feel like you "can't sit with them", ect. it gets really creepy and ugly.

and the thing is, i never addressed anyone specific in my posts, i never said *this* person and *that* person have shitty hcs/takes, i never even vaguely hinted at a distaste towards the hcs/takes of someone specific, but they accuse me of pointing fingers. when i said that i didn't think canon sylvie having babies would work, i never said anything about sylki babies in fanfiction, yet people accused me of pointing fingers at the fic writers. and they would come to my blog, harass me in the replies and asks, and talk about how despicable i am in their own blogs, and it went on and on for a while.

thanks for your nice words, anon, they are uplifting. and to those who can't stand me so much, don't worry, i'm going to leave this fandom once the series is finished. i hope you are satisfied that being a shitty, gatekeeping, narrow-minded, egocentric person worked for you! but don't ever feel entitled to complain about how lokius shippers treat you.

[the-mold-is-coming]

gotta love fandoms

i feel like shit. went looking for my fav ship. then all i get is. "omg i hate this this is wrong because i personally see it this way"

The problem is, well, maybe the autistic urge to nitpick, maybe it's because I actually passed english, idfk, but.

Just because you failed language classes. And because you have a view of the character that is mostly generalised in the fandom. It does not mean mine is unnacceptable. Just because you see said two characters differently.

I am a big, BIG fan of leaving people alone. Like, seriously. Don't like don't look kind of thing, block and forget, instead of using the tag specifically to bother people. Guess what? IT IS NOT CANON. IT'S YOUR INTERPRETATION. AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S GREAT IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE. Shocking, I know. I don't spread hate on your shit because I see it differently. I just say yeah, not for me, and then move on. Coexisting IS A THING.

Idk I'm just double upset right now, this post is the exact same thing, don't like it? Feel free to ignore me, be my guest!

Time to go drown my middle school bullies in the sims to feel better