#i had mutuals harass me and ppl i thought as friends not come to my aid bc of nonexistent sylki babies lmao
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neyafromfrance95 · 1 year ago
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i'm so sorry to see that you're being vagueposted about for your sylki takes. it may be true that how you see sylki is a bit different than a certain section of the fandom, but that doesn't at ALL mean that you shouldn't be allowed to have your own takes! fwiw, i followed you bc i actually agree with and really enjoy ur perspective on sylki. i was getting frustrated with how many people seem to view this ship in a super heteronormative way and want sylvie to basically become a housewife, and i was so glad to find a blog that felt the same way. this fandom has become tiring tbh with how many people are now freaking out that sylvie hasn't immediately started having lokis babies in s2, and i really wish that people would at least leave room for others to have their own opinions!
this! that section of sylki shippers do not leave any room for you to have your opinions! they act like a fanon police controlling what you say in your posts on your blog!
and god forbid that what you say opposes their own hcs and takes, if you commit this unforgivable sin of having a take that is different from theirs, you better be ready for some good old online group harassment! they will make you feel like you are not welcome in this fandom, they will make sure that you are hurt, they will alienate you and force you out!
but no, you are the bad guy for jokingly calling a fandom in general "vanilla" and saying (after several disclaimers that it's your personal opinion) that when it comes to canon, you don't think that sylvie should be all about being loki's housewife.
at this point i honestly hate this fandom. there are some decent sylkis out there and i love the ship itself, but a big portion of the fandom has simply sucked all the joy for the series out of me. i wonder if they realize what the consequences of their behavior could be? back when i said (in my blog) that i don't think sylvie having babies is a compelling completion of her story in canon, and this bunch came to my blog to harass me for my takes, i was in a very *very* bad place already, and the space that was supposed to be my escape pretty much turned on me and added up to an already depressing state i was in.
and bfr anyone says that it's just a fandom wank, let me tell you that these people know how to be really cruel, whether they realize it or not, their behavior is simply cruel. they don't just argue in favor of their opinion, they shit on you personally, get aggressive towards you personally, make you feel like you "can't sit with them", ect. it gets really creepy and ugly.
and the thing is, i never addressed anyone specific in my posts, i never said *this* person and *that* person have shitty hcs/takes, i never even vaguely hinted at a distaste towards the hcs/takes of someone specific, but they accuse me of pointing fingers. when i said that i didn't think canon sylvie having babies would work, i never said anything about sylki babies in fanfiction, yet people accused me of pointing fingers at the fic writers. and they would come to my blog, harass me in the replies and asks, and talk about how despicable i am in their own blogs, and it went on and on for a while.
thanks for your nice words, anon, they are uplifting. and to those who can't stand me so much, don't worry, i'm going to leave this fandom once the series is finished. i hope you are satisfied that being a shitty, gatekeeping, narrow-minded, egocentric person worked for you! but don't ever feel entitled to complain about how lokius shippers treat you.
#asks#sylki#sylvie laufeydottir#loki#i regret ever getting invested in this fandom i really really regret it#learn from my mistakes my friends#unfortunately a lot of your mutuals aren't actually your friends#they are going to turn your time in the fandom into hell if you dare to voice your unpopular opinion/hc on your own blog!#i had mutuals harass me and ppl i thought as friends not come to my aid bc of nonexistent sylki babies lmao#anyways anyways#you win! good job at forcing the last sylki who has unpopular takes/hcs out of the fandom!#you could have just muted or blocked me but i guess it was your duty to make sure it was clear that sylki fandom hates me!#oh & thank you for destroying my desire to ever read a sylki fic vanilla or not bc i can't be sure that it's not written by someone who#felt so insecure bc of my hcs that they decided to ruin the fandom experience for me!#mf i never insulted your fic i'm sure i have never even read it i was simply ranting about what i would like to read in case there was#someone wondering if there would be an audience for that sort of thing#and i never told you not to hc sylki/sylvie a certain way when i ranted on my blog how i don't think housewife!sylvie would work in canon!#but deep down you know that you just don't want anyone to have a different hc/take#again don't worry! you won! hope you are happy!#actually you managed to destroy my desire to be in any fandom ever! i should replace fandom with grass-touching bc maybe the lack of said#grass-touching is the reason some of you think everything is about you and targets you and your precious hcs#god i just cant stop thinking regretful i am for getting invested in this fandom when so many shippers turned out so hypocritical bad peopl#maybe one good thing that may come out of this is some poor soul reading it and getting a reality check regarding twitter/tumblr fandoms#DON'T GET ATTACHED THESE PPL WILL HARASS YOU AND HURT YOU OVER MADE-UP BABIES#it's not worth it! prioritize your mental health!#i have wasted so much of my time defending sylkis from the antis here & on twt only to have the majority of them turn on me#i want my time back god i really want all that wasted time back#why are you mfs sending me angry asks i told u that u won i'm leaving this fandom what more do u want from me?!#im not wasting my life in the fandom where the mfs would harass a real person bc of their parasocial relationship with hc babies#be content with hurting and forcing a person out of the fandom bc u took smtng that wasn't targeted at u too personally
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molinaesque · 7 months ago
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Cooper Howard and Lucy MacLean's rare and wonderful dynamic (and how it's ultimately alright if they don't become "endgame" or whatever)
First off... I'm saying this as a HUGE ghoulcy shipper btw. I don't wanna hear about some bullshit about how "you just don't like the ship" or something dumb like that (have you SEEN the state of my blog??). I ADORE this ship. These are also ultimately my own thoughts. Do not be affronted if this somehow doesn't apply to your hcs. At the end of the day, this is fiction, nothing more.
Something I have to note on about the wonderful dynamic between Cooper and Lucy. Even if ghoulcy stays platonic, I'm fine with it because this is the closest dynamic to Jack/Liz from 30 Rock that l've seen, and if anyone's seen that show, you KNOW what I'm talking about. Let me explain.
Jack/Liz were two v complex characters that had so much chemistry but the way their "relationship" worked was so unique in that they were never romantic but they're WAY more than just colleagues/ friends, etc. There was literally an article titled like "why you'll never see this kind of relationship in television again" and ghoulcy has the potential to be that again which is still GREAT! It even goes on to talk about how they're COMPLETE AND POLAR OPPOSITES but the dynamic still works and how they feed off of each other in the only way no other characters can. The "dynamic" is THEIRS and theirs only. Seem familiar?
From what we're getting not just in the Fallout show but from interviews with the actors and creatives involved, we're already getting that special dynamic. However, I must stress that many of the comments and those interviews (imo) are sometimes taken TOO literally. The existing text and subtext of the ship is already abundant and ripe so I feel like not EVERYTHING has to be referred to the ship and the ship only. I know it's mostly funsies but I legit wonder if some of this is taken too seriously to the point of misconstruing an actor's words and getting tunnel vision JUST for the sake of the ship and ship only, in turn cheapening what is already there. Kinda like what I've seen with people having to vilify Barb further with unnecessary inferences to scenes that give her more layers (like questioning her genuine love for Janey and Cooper. She can be loving AND a villain y'all. Both things don't have to be mutually exclusive) EVEN THOUGH SHE IS CLEARLY VILIFIED BY THE SHOW BY THE REVEAL SO WHY MAKE UP STUFF? To "punish" her more?? Apologies but this kinda reads as "I need to prop up my ship further so I MUST degrade the other ship" even though it's again... SUPER UNNECESSARY (I must stress I've seen this on ALL sides of shipping/character stanning. Both sides suck when you engage in this behaviour). Have fun and faith in the strength of your ships (ESPECIALLY if they're not "canon" adjacent)!
Anyway, as I was saying...
Going back to 30 Rock, there's literally a scene in the show where they get married due to shenanigans, they get in a big fight the whole episode and in the end sit down and have the most revealing discussion with a councilor about why they're so much more complex than typical relationship. And another scene where they sleep in the same bed together and addressed why they never hooked up with each other and why that's okay. By the way, I was also a HUGE shipper of these two... But I was fine with how they ended up with because the story of their special relationship that makes them uniquely THEM was clear and concise. This did not stop me from reading fics where they make kissy faces. It is possible to do both and I think some ppl tend to forget this.
I'm not saying this for the antis (don't like what you don't like, but if you harass shippers then you can suck eggs and leave. This applies to shippers to non shippers too btw. Be. Nice.), I'm saying all this because I want shippers to not "despair" if the ship that they've become so invested in doesn't come to fruition (and not go overboard into thinking that writers should listen to whatever audiences want all the time, we've been down this road SO many times, it's terrible. Do we REALLY need to talk about how The Rise of Skywalker turned out the way it did due to unnecessary pressure from the loudest antis/asshats in fandom? I think not). Maybe this is also more towards the younger audience members as a cautionary tale because we old ass millenials have seen and been through this but didn't have the immediacy of social media at our finger tips, so it was kinda easier to not be as reactionary. I don't like playing the "you youngins don't know what it was like" card, but at some points it is just a statement of reality. Some of you are/were LITERALLY too young to have experienced this.
Ultimately, what I'm saying is even if ghoulcy doesn't become "romantic", I'm fine with it as long as they stay within the "something more/beyond definition" dynamic which is ALWAYS refreshing to see. Give us more "what are we"! Give us more "it's complicated"! Give us more "we can't be summarized in neat little boxes"!
As long as they don't end up in the pit of "one dimensional interpretation of the Found Family trope which is somehow only just Familial and in this instance Father-Daughter". Please, I BEG. Nothing wrong for people to like this dynamic, but to immediately categorize this into that box is just... Tiresome. You can make the same arguments about "shipping two living beings together on screen all the time" too for sure... But again it leads to my point of if we're going the platonic route how about we NOT just shove it in the same boring dynamic of Father-Daughter that if you want, can find in multitudes of other forms of existing fictional media.
Tldr; have fun but always remember this is all fictional media in the end where we play with dolls in a sandbox. Just remember to BE. NORMAL. and not forget this and start shitting in it and flinging poo at each other. That goes with relationships with creators of said media too. Do NOT become parasocial and expect everything to be catered to you. The creators want to tell a story THEY came up with in the first place.
LET THEM.
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notyouraryang0dd3ss · 7 months ago
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hi, indian anon here ( I think I used the ⏳️) ig you can say I'm an ex swiftie, but in the sense that I was never exposed to western music until evermore and I listened to it and loved it. I never engaged with the fandom or anything, and didn't even know all these things taylor did, and I thought taylor was a decent person because of the documentary. This was until ofc, the matty healy incident which opened my eyes to her behavior, but idky I felt like I couldn't openly dislike her. Everyone in my school was obsessed with her and if you're a girl, and you hated her, or even disliked her, you were a pick me, and I didn't wanna get hated on more by my classmates (long story there). The last straw for me was prolly when 1989 tv was released (after the mh incident I just called myself a swiftie cuz I liked her earlier work) and I had joined an online swiftie group chat, and the people there were so vile and hateful. I remember saying it's wrong hating on harry styles for cheating on her cuz she did the same, or that Joe alwyn is just a regular dude, and so are all her other exes, except prolly matty and the John Mayor guy for dating a 19 y/o (SHE ALSO DATED MINORS THO??? no one talked about this shit) and I mentioned that she's not god and that she has done bad things, and the gc, which had 50 active members everyday, collectively not only hated on me, but also these people had access to my private insta acc. My face, my friends, my address, they knew it all. It was so scary, and while I have been in plenty of toxic fandoms before (my first death threats were by the hp fandom, which I've left long back), I actually felt threatened. It actually felt like a cult, and it was scary until my insta acc got shut down (idky), and the ppl couldn't find me anymore. The swiftie fandom is weird at best, and potential criminals at worst, because wtf. They don't have any sort of individual thinking, and if someone does, they will find a way to shut it down. Even now, when I interact with a swiftie and taylor Swift comes up, and I say I don't like her, their behavior is just like the ones online. Ik ppl get more confidence to do bad things online cuz of anonymity, but swifties are the same irl, too. They completely believe it is okay to treat ppl terribly, harass and spread disgusting rumors and even doxx a Palestinian woman and give her details to Isreali organization. Like that actually happened. I regret that I didn't leave the fandom sooner because I can't believe I was associated with something like this. Ik celebrities make mistakes, and that fandoms always have one toxic portion, but this is too much.
Sorry for the long rant tho 😅
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sorry it took me a while to respond, there is SO MUCH HAPPENING in this ask. like 3 diff asks rolled into one omfg
1. peer pressured into “continuing” to like taylor swift you are a different kind of victim im so sorry you went through that (and all to prevent you from being bullied…im so sorry)
2. THE SWIFTIE GROUPCHAT: that is horrible and TERRIFYING. all you did was practice critical thinking and you feared for your SAFETY. their reactions are not logical nor rational and speak to how dangerous her fanbase is.
if you feel like you cannot call out your fave for their behavior without your safety being threatened, that is not a fanbase, that is a cult. i think we should actually did a venn diagram of swifties and cults we’d have a perfect circle.
3. SWIFTIES IRL: this is so true about how they behave. ive had friends tell me theyre scared of saying they hate taylor IRL cause of the backlash they’d receive. THAT IS NOT NORMAL. even when BTS was at their peak ppl never felt threatened by the ARMY to that point 😭
you NEED to send more info/links/ss about the doxxed palestinian. i need the #SwiftiesforPalestine to see wtf their mutuals are doing. that is ABHORRENT behavior. that poor woman!
thank you sm for this ask, u are truly one of god’s strongest soldiers cause wtf!!!! is wrong!!!! with swifties!!!!!
(p.s. if you are a repeat anon go ahead and sign off your asks with an emoji so i can keep track! thank you!)
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cattytheartcat · 1 year ago
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Proof they're withholding context and truth for their own narratives. They want to always be right.
Here's your context lil shits:
Pyro is a 14-16 year old mentally (and I think physically? Sorry if I don't know!) Disabled kid who made a Helluva Boss AU in wishes to make it better than the OG. They made an honest mistake of making Stella the victim when in the OG show she was just as an abuser. I see this as an honest mistake because Stolas in the ACTUAL WICCAN RELIGION is a herbalist who will cry if you poke him. It'd make sense to de-abuser-ify Stolas in an AU! However it did make it look bad with Stella being a victim. That I understand and thankfully Pyro took it down and apologized TWICE.
If you guys actually took the time and LOOK at it's blog before it got deactivated, you'd see TWO Apologies. One was in their pinned, in bright, bold, red text. The second was in void's reblogs.
They never drew art for it, their mutuals probably did so. I scrolled through it's blog and I saw NOTHING art-related posted by them specifically. You are pulling shit out of anons who SUICIDE THREATENED your "friend".
"We never joked about killing you"
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You fuckers ignored context too!! Pyro sent ALL THE CONTEXT NEEDED and you ignored void. You got mad that I gave context to PoniesOnline staff THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU and claimed I "was scared of being outted" when I was being the mature one and keeping outside shit out of the inside.
Pyro is a fucking child and you so called "I'm an 18 years old adult" ass harassed them.
If you actually fucking read my screenshots in your shitty GC you'd see that Pyro deactivated because THEY THOUGHT THEY CAUSED SNOW TO WANT TO COMMIT. I told void about everything and they thought the anon hate was because of them.
Oh btw y'all piss and cry about being misgendered yet misgender whoever you don't like. Pyro's pronouns are it/its, they/them, and void/voids. "I didn't know" yes you did if you actually looked at their bio.
This is why I don't trust mentally ill people who refuse to get help. This is exactly why. I dont HATE them, they don't deserve it, but I sure as hell dont TRUST them.
If I can distrust men for the amount of men that traumatized me, I can distrust severely ill people for the amount of ill people that traumatized me. If you can distrust people, I can distrust people.
You are no gods. You are not the Always Better Than You, you are fucking immature. You are literal children, minus the 18 year old who's barely a mature adult.
Snow was sent suicide threats because ANONS. Said anons WERE ALREADY ATTACKING HER. They just needed that one person to use as a scapegoat to "justify their hate". And since Pyro interacted with her prior, and Pyro was already in deep shit, it was the perfect tool.
Pyro is NOT at fault. ANONS ARE. You are NOT the good guys, and neither am I.
Yes, I should've worded my comment properly instead of making it sound out of context, that part I'll take. However, you lil fuckwads took it personally and did what you do with other ppl you don't like; slander. Instead of coming in with an open mind and asked for MY SIDE, you took whichever context benefits your savior complexes.
That anti-harassment account was right. You ARE dangerous. You claim to be anti-harassment yet "jokingly" want people to die and suffer because you don't like them.
Oh btw, I stopped pedo hunting because of how mentally draining it is to fight against brick walls (them being extremely ignorant) and how they somehow are able to charm people into joining their side despite them being literal pedophiles. You guys hunt proshippers, you'd understand how mentally draining it is!
Oh, that's right, you don't understand. You think its a game. Pathetic.
I saved your asses when Munch was coming after you. I don't like Munch either but at least I left bun alone and RESPECTED HER PRONOUNS unlike you. I kept you updated SO YOU FELT SAFE. I agreed with you despite being against you SO YOU FELT CORRECT. You guys were against the "bad guys", you should know better.
You are just as bad. I spit on you.
Just like on Twitter where I was against MAPs but was not an anti-MAP just a sane person against pedophilia, I'm against proshippers and radqueers but not an anti, just a sane person who hates harmful people. Antis act with a victim complex and send death threats to people they don't like. I do my research and report and block when needed.
Never get involved with those who speak a little too loudly 👍
wow, they told more lies about me and blocked me so i cant respond
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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blushingtendertiel · 3 years ago
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Never thought I'd end up doing a callout post but well, xxdemonicheartxx is a fatphobe and a racist
Some of the receipts are pretty old bc when it happened I just blocked them and moved on but bc tumblr blocking system is what it is they still have been present on my dash. With recent conversation with a friend I got to know they also had very unpleasant posts during blm protest that make it easy to assume they are a racist as well.
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Like I hope I don't have to explain to you why that is fatphobic or racistic. The fatphobia incident happened couple years ago but around the early 2021 spring when someone asked them about it in the post they just deleted it, so I assume they still hold these views. And the post where they compare blm activists to animals and have very cold bootlicking takes of it all is recent and still in their blog.
In both cases you can see how they thinly veil their opinion in false concern for ppls health or safety, at the same time mocking them. They clearly have no clue of what the reality is for these people or what is happening. It is just pure bigotry. If you find yourself agreeing with them please educate yourself.
I don't want ppl to harass them or anything I just want to make the community safer for minorities. Block them and move on. I have unblocked them for a while if they'd like to explain themselves.
Another reason why I am just now making this post was that I am not sure do ppl care about fatphobia and if I would have come forward claiming them to be a fatphobe would ppl in the community have supported me or not. It's a sad and lonely place to be when I can't be sure would my mutuals agree with me on such an important humans right issue as fatphobia.
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septembersghost · 4 years ago
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your fake ass king said it, he knows dw was a piece of shit who had nothing to offer the world. dw knew it himself, you were all too stupid to listen to him when he said it every few so episodes a season. he had no purpose and you all really thought you did something when you defended him and thought he should live. if even ja can finally admit that he was a worthless husk of a person, then it's time for all of you to face it too. he was NOTHING wout the better ppl around him and a burden to all
preface: 💖✨ friends, mutuals, and followers, I adore and treasure you and am very sorry for this post ✨💖
I almost didn’t publish this, but then I thought - what’s the preferable option here, delete it, and let you believe it injured me enough to hide from it, or feed your rampant derangement [derogatory] by answering it? (the irony of my kindhearted anon the other day saying they hoped no one had been mean to me makes this even more suspect, were you chilling in the corner, waiting and hoping for something to pounce with, or is this just random bitterness overflowing? I would like to analyze you).
may I please point out that this is not what he said, it's like one of them speaks and then it becomes a game of telephone, and what is eventually concluded is not what was originally stated. I’m not going to argue with you further because reading this, I am aware that your particular form of hatefulness is not going to be combated or changed by me countering it with canonical facts or emotionally eloquent rebuttal. I don’t know who you think you’re defending when the “better people around him” loved him immeasurably. I could tell you that this is comically reductive, unimaginative, black and white thinking utterly lacking in depth, nuance, or insight, but this is what you believe, and it is your choice to live in your own constructed ugly hellscape, so enjoy rolling around in the muck if you must.
what I will say is that this behavior is vile and immature, if not altogether disturbing, and as someone who does not participate in quite a bit of the culture of this fandom (this is a TINY blog, do you think you’re going to get attention by acting like a shrieking harpy? ma’am - or sir, or whatever your preferred title, I don’t know your life - I have NO reach, there are people who have thousands of followers and it would be odious of you to bother them, but why you chose insignificant little me is truly baffling. put on a mask, and take a walk around the block), nor have I ever felt the need to send anonymous hate mail, and I am QUITE certain you know better than this, but have seen the fact that I...I don’t know? love a character? genuinely grieve him? openly write thoughts and my own (totally subjective! it’s my mind and my blog!) perspective on the metaphors in the text because it interests me and I care enough to be invested in that? struggle with physical and mental health conditions? and decided I was a cool target at whom to direct your ire. the thing is, as hurt as I have been, you have absolutely no power to harm me, because you are like one pesky little gnat in the midst of a dense forest. I have bigger things to deal with, one swat and you’re out.
I’ve only been back here for a few months, and I’ve had interactions with old friends and new that I will cherish. I never had drama until you decided to come here with a shockingly bad take (I never had drama on my old blog that I inhabited happily for many years because I had anon turned off, but I have it open here to allow people to talk to me without anxiety, if they want to! you’re not going to get me to close it, so harassing me does not give you an edge there). I’m probably not going to be here much longer, I’m amazed every day that I’m still around with internet access and made it to March. that’s not the fandom, that’s my life and the fact that I’m on constantly borrowed time. so you can send me whatever, but it doesn’t make a difference. you can’t chase me off of Tumblr, you can’t take him away from me (it’s WAY too late for that. learn to time travel, and if after you’ve accomplished that incredible, groundbreaking feat, you’re still this pressed, then go back to that September night and tell me not to watch the pilot). at some point you can gloat and cackle in my absence, I really don’t care. if my loving a/these character(s) and a story this much bothers you, then watch me rub my delicate, damnable little hands all over everything.
I wish I could appeal to your humanity or sense of decency in telling you that describing someone (real or fictional) in the terms you’ve used here is unconscionably damaging and cruel, and no one who lives with trauma or depression or suicidality (or all of the above) deserves to be told they’re worthless or a burden, but your lack of empathy tells me that, too, would have no marked effect. You'll never be a first-class human being until you've learned to have some regard for human frailty.
I may live with pain and ideation and a thousand things you’ll never comprehend, but I still have compassion and a beating, caring heart. try it out sometime, you might start to find some actual joy in the world, instead of whatever hollow, miserable mess this is.
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toycarousel · 5 years ago
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Hey I want to vent and some cheering up I just lost all my online friends because one said I was abusive to my pets and they believed them and now I have no one to vent to and I'm very suicidal and last night I almost took my own life I really want some help and I just dont know who to talk to It makes me so sick they believed her and I just am so depressed I just want something from you personally because your my favorite voice actor and your so kind tysm for listening and maybe responding!!!
***(I’m not a professional of any sort, so I can only offer casual advice/peer support, and I’m also going to link to some resources for you at the bottom of my response! Be sure to check them out, especially if you’re afraid, or in danger, and/or you just need someone to talk to!)***
Hey there, Anon! : O That sounds absolutely horrendous, having to experience all that... it’s... rly, rly unfair that your other online friends didn’t fully listen to your side of the story before suddenly just making the decision to break off their friendships with you.  
My sister had a very similar experience yrs ago.  After coming back from a club with a couple of her then-friends, and going to their house to sleep, the friends (who were beyond intoxicated), got into an unrelated spat with her, and suddenly just accused her of trying to hurt their cat.  And literally anyone who knows my sister even the tiniest bit would know -- beyond the shadow of a doubt -- that she’d swallow a burning hot branding-iron before she’d ever harm an animal (especially a cat, she’s THE quintessential cat person).  
Despite that though, these friends still told their other, mutual friend, and that person bailed on my sister for a while without even asking her what happened, based solely on the lies these ex-friends told about her behind her back.
I wanted to share that to basically say that, often, we can’t control the bad or cruel decisions that the other ppl in our lives make -- but that these experiences can rly tell you a lot about what kinds of ppl your friends truly are.  A good friend will care about you enough to know you’re a good person and to listen to your account of things.
I’m hoping you have the chance to talk this out with your friends at some point, if you feel like preserving these particular friendships is still healthy and worthwhile for you.  Otherwise, I’d aim to pursue friendships with other people -- I know this is easier said than done, and it can definitely take time to build up that connection with other ppl, but I have faith that you will find folks who are honest, open, and kind.  There are good ppl out there who won’t spread nasty rumours behind your back, and who will be openly communicative with you whenever either of you is concerned about something/has a disagreement.
Right now, your other friends might be unsure of what to do, on their own ends.  I don’t know the overall personality of the person who spread misinformation about you, but in some unhealthy/imbalanced friend-groups, there will often be a person who holds more power/sway over how the rest of the group is expected to feel and behave.  This is never a good dynamic to have amongst friends.  And if that’s how your friends felt about this person, they may just have been too afraid to speak out and challenge them (which is still incredibly unfair to you, tbh).
In any case, what matters the most is that you know your own truth.  You know you didn’t do what this person said, and that you’re a good person, Anon!  Remember that, and hold it close! The lies that people tell about you cannot ever take your truth from you.  
It can be effective to clarify your side of things to other people and to try to clear your name if you want to, but if it’s stressing you out to do so, then I’d just take a step back, personally, and spend time focusing on entirely different things -- it’ll be emotionally painful to move forward, for sure, but in time, either your friends will have realized they made a mistake and apologized, or you’ll have already made newer, much healthier friendships!
Take time for yourself whenever you need, block and report anyone who tries to harass you, or who says/posts things that hurt you, and again, remember that, no matter what anyone says, you’re not the person they tried to make you out to be.  And what they did says a whole lot more about them than it does about you! There are lots of ppl out there, and while you’re in a lot of emotional pain right now, I know, for absolute certain, that you’re not alone in this sort of experience, and that you will find people who are compassionate, and who actually deserve your friendship! 
It’s always okay to vent here if you need/want to, Anon, and I wish you the very best! Take good care of yourself~
https://codedredalert.tumblr.com/post/109005732295/helpline-masterlist (masterpost of crisis hotlines)
https://www.7cups.com/ (free online counselling/support, available through phone, text, and online chat!)
https://togetherweare-strong.tumblr.com/helpline (more resources and helplines)
https://themuserofpsychology.wordpress.com/2016/01/30/preoccupy-negative-thoughts-self-help-master-post/ (a masterpost of various calming sites and coping techniques that can help get you through especially painful thoughts/feelings!)
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moomoof · 6 years ago
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Stop it.
I was friends with this person for almost 2 years and it the last few months it turned into a toxic relationship.
We used to do hangouts and talk about issues we cared about on his channel but i found myself not being comfortable with some of the topics
 but if i ever voiced i didn’t want to do the show he would keep pushing the issue and i was weak to put a stop to it.
 That’s not to say i didn’t enjoy the shows cause i did buti  didn’t want ot do them all the time .
The problems started with our view points really 
I personally feel like he hid his real views out of fear of being abandoned or maybe he just posed as a liberal to ge friends who knows this is all speculation on my part after thoughts . 
This post is just to let out all my angst and frustration. 
I didn’t handle the last encounter withh im well i should’ve just said what i wanted and left i hoped he would understand but what scared me was his reactions again i wanted out of his show at least for a little bit 
i would suggest he find other ppl he would pick up on the hints ...
i was going though a rough patch with my health and i had no energy what’s so ever i didn’t want to disappoint him so 
..i told him straight up i couldn’t do it  to get our mutual friend and o  it with him he seemed annoyed at least in text
 i didn’t speak with him directly then i saw the show live with our friend and ..
his reaction to my illness was annoyance he was like she’s off ill or
 whatever the hell hshe has with the biggest eye rool i ever seen
 ...and then even if i told him multiple times
 i was ill i did'nt want to talk he tried to force me by calling my hangout
...and he was rude to our friend cause i suspect he was jealous of our friend or annoyed
 that our friend was trying out his own show i don’t think my friend picked up on this  
He lied about how his old friends broke up with him 
 Of course i believed him ....well actually no for a while now i wasn't believing him cause he lied or omitted things i found them out on my own. 
That's the heart of the issue it was a slow crawl but i woke up and wasn't going to be used by him.
Like i was saying i was sick he didn't care i told him i can really do this show cause i have things to do or i honestly didn't want to i told him that once but... a disturbing patterned emerged with him. No matter what i said or did he would act like i didn't say it and want his way. In the long run i got anxious around him any time i had an opinion he will shoot it down i couldn't express myself on my twitter feed without him screaming at me and somehow making me feel dumb.
I told him on many occasions i was emotionally abused and physically abused nothing. He of course said he was there for me to chat but i don't like talking about that stuff to ppl. But i suspect it was an empty gesture put there to pretend to be a good friend but in the end he wanted just a person to speak to cause he had issues but also he would use those issues against you. one year ago he said something awful or something like that and i disagreed true i got heated he screamed when that didn't work then he play oop i'm anxious card that then played with others and me for ever more.
He had to be right all the time. He had that stupid internet idea that if you don't have evidence of what you are speaking then you are wrong! or shut up even tho i never really went to his feed after a while cause i was tired of arguing. 
He enjoyed arguing.
Then the big event that woke me up. 
We were arguing about jill stien or third party voters actually i was talking about it on my feed and he shoved his opinion in my face....
yelled at me then i tried to be funny and say get with the program! with the clapping emojis 
He flipped a switch and said i was stupid by saying oh you think i'm dumb? really? ok then your writing skills are mediocre at best or worse actually. (yes i am aware my writing is terrible) but a personal attack like that for no reason hit me hard. 
He just...went to that , that's what he thought about me ...i suposedly let go but it churned for days i have very low selfesteem it took me years to get out of a dark head space. He knocked me down. He hates everything i am cause i do agree with him. That was my head space the next few days i wrote warnings but didn't name him. 3 changes and then i block you don't care you are my friend if you hurt me and put me in a dark space i am cutting you off. He got weirder with me hostile almost after then we butted heads and we airred things but i somehow had an inkling it wasn't safe to talk in the dms i talked in public ...it was weird i suggested we should take a break i wanted it so badly....he said no... and i caved and went back to the same shit different day. Then the last draw happened 
I hate susan sarandon's white feminism i fucking hate it i hate her i hate that she cares three fucks about what she created 
He has this weird white knighty behavior that he will attack you for talking shit about his favorite ppl. 
He also probably felt personally attacked he thinks i somehow am talking about him all time. 
We got heated i was already tired of his shit i started to withdraw from our supposed friendship. Then he did it...he attacked my identiy aka my puerto rican ness and added hillary to it he later deleted it. So he can claim he didn't know what he did to cause my silence but more on that later. He knew that after Maria the hurricane i lost family i wasn't connected to the for weeks i had to worry aobut their well being for months without being able to do nothing ...i was a wreck for months he knew i told him, it was on his show too ( he since deleted all of them GOOD!) I did not deserve this more over i had a very hard anniversary coming up as well not to mention it was september ( still is) i lost my cousin and everythign that i knew as my world this month and it was Maria's anniversary. He just threw it in my fave he used my pain to win a stupid internet argument.  I decided to ignore him for a week or so until i can figure out what to do with him, talk to him again, stop talking to him so often but still be friends or completely run away in fear.
I could not speak to him it hurt it really hurt he used my pain against me i could not trust him....and the silent treatment happened. 
The next day he acted like nothing happened and asked me if i was ready to talk about gay muppets like nothing happened ( the whole bert and ernie incident) that scared me ....he acted like everything was ok ...it wasn't it could be clear for anyone that it wasn't...
i muted his feed and muted him but twitter doesn't understand that maybe ppl want not to get notification from a follower or person you are following for a bit...
He kept liking my stuff in the hopes i would be happy? this is speculation on my part...
He commented on my posts to see if i would bite. 
 i ignored him hoping he would get it i muted hangouts cause i feared he might call 
i had growing fear my heart would race thinking he was there replying liking and dming me...
This might sound dumb but ...it isn't it is harassment...
His former friends mentioned this he would use his second account to spy on them months after the fact they blocked and left him behind..that should've warned me.
He would mention them a lot. Like i said earlier i believed them but i didnt let on to him that i suspected something happened...at first i thought well they should've told him why and then block him and during the a conversation he did something and they didn't likee it's normal ...let it go ..in my head... i nodged him to write it out and let it go in a nicer way.
 But he was controlling i saw it when he hated when friends posted somethign he would scream about it...
They mentioned that they felt free from his smug behavior that he would not value their opionions and then later one of his ex friends said it wasn't the change the channel movement but the how he held certain views on gamer gate..when i voiced my own he screamed at me cause he felt like he knew better and how dare you think otherwise!
He would go into these rage fits over this topic, if you didn't agree with him , eye roll 
condescenion and disdain. This was the topic which lied about and the ppl he lied about or omitted it cause if he didn't he could push his narrative which was that gamer gate was a good movement ...by ignoring all the misogyny and abusive behavior cause he hated ppl on the attacked side. He hated that todd in the shadows blocked him for saying awful things about his friend. He kept on and on about that...like it was a bad thing...
He believed a group of rapey men that wanted a transgender woman to die and claimed she raped her sister... i will not go further into this. 
I put my feelings on that forward he would probably be annoyed in his head about it..whatever. 
He hated lindsay ellis cause she liked the tweet that told him off for harassing todd and his friend..
Sorry to his ex friends for my words about them cause i believed him for the most part and i did care about him i wanted ot make him feel better. 
i was wrong i fed a monster.
I wanted a week of peace away from him ...didn't happen he kept on and kept on ...he even got our mutual friend involved and lied .... he lied he said to him oh she's angry at me cause i don't know i did something wrong i am worried about her ...she's sad about stuff and the world is a bad place blah blah making me sound like the problem...
remember our mutual friend can't really pick up on these things 
He asked i just told him not to be dragged into this cause i was pissed off 
then i said it was nothing i was fine. and i moved on and ignored him some more...
He kept going ...
Then finally he did th final final thing and made up my mind for me.
He tried to guilt trip me into being his friend again or even to talk to him it scared me ...i blocked him completely on everything
he said you are hurting...me 
me?! i hurt him what? he hurt me he didn't care and he dares to accuse me of something i never did so he can look like victim yet again! 
That pissed the shit outta me i got tired of his toxic domineering personality 
He wanted to control you by making you feel bad about challeging him on his views about having my own views for breathing for not wanting to do the thing he wanted on the day he wanted ...
him not caring about my illness really hurt me... he hurt me and i still have the anxeity and have it in my head his words ....i want it gone...so i wrote this to stop it! 
He was not worth it...he's a bad person toxic it's not your fault...
I reached out to one of his ex friends i needed reasurance ...i needed to know i wasn't crazy and seeing something that wasn't there ....now its over i want never to ever see him or talk to him again. 
I recount times were he said awful things like ugh when my face showed up on the hangouts ...like my face is ugly...
i took pictures he would say geez or something like that ignored it..
he laughed at my lack of furniture or equipment..to do audio work...
He even got super hostile with me when our mutual was with us...cause i didn't agree with him ...
I wrote a memorial for my cousin and he sullied it by commenting on it moments after he hurt me like a psycho...
Now i know why he kept trying to bring up his friends cause i interacted with mutuals he wanted to know if they told me about him...and for weeks i struggled to find out by asking them but i never did...
He is disturbed i am stupid for allowing it to continue to this point i don't know how far he would've taken it but my psyche could not take it anymore...
He even made fun of my drinking 
it was a terrible idea to engage with him but i honestly thought he was a someone else like a person i watched turned out he wasn't he was using an account to get ppl to like him then he change later i guess...
Maybe i'm wrong maybe he isn't all bad just immature but i don't care he scares me and hurt me...sorry for this post but i need it out of me 
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tiracallout · 8 years ago
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Hey, i was never super close with tira but i was mutuals for a while and had a good amount of interaction with them, because my friends were pretty close to them. Thought i would share some of the creepy experiences i remember having while following (all of them being while i was a minor, 15 when i started following). This doesn’t have to be anonymous idc if they see it
First of all, I was never much of a fan of them. People who are overly possessive of kins, as well as people who are too passionate about mental illness headcanons (theyre insulting imo, people can have them but tira liked to shove it down your throat like it was fact) are always people that send up red flags for me. So i never got too invested in them, i mostly just got angry for the sake of other people (my fellow mostly-minor friends), and was play-nice. One of my friends even had to just leave their main account because they were that afraid of tira, couldn’t even confront them.
But on to some examples of things they did. I’ll save the best one for last so hold on tight. One time they were dmming me to stay away from specific people because they were abusive (probably the people posting on this blog lmao..kept saying ppl were stalking them and shit). Based on how the messages went, i think they made a post saying “dm me for my personal ill be on there from now on.” Something like that. But then they went on and on to tell me dont talk to these people, which is fucking manipulative, but i didn’t really care cause i dont go out of my way to talk to people anyway. Would probably never end up talking to them, so i just played along. I have screenshots of this, it was a pretty mild interaction tho ill post if anyone really wants them for followup. It was one of those things that just sent some creepy vibes, nothing wild.
I liked some character from a show once (THE CHARACTER IN THE ICON FOR THIS BLOG LMAO) and i would post screenshots while watching it and stuff and i got the SHIT subtweeted out of me let me tell u. I find that kind of stuff amusing though, so i didn’t stop until i eventually dropped the show because liking the same thing as people i don’t like makes me feel like i have cooties. And i was just told that one of my friends retweeted art of that same character and got yelled at by tira. Don’t know why they didn’t confront me for doing that. But they are so out of line ACTUALLY harassing people for liking a character. You always had to be on your toes around tira it was gross.
THIS ONE IS THE REASON THAT DROVE ME TO FINALLY SEPARATE MYSELF FROM TIRA, along with my entire friendgroup. At this time they were over 20 years old. One of my close friends (who was 14 AT THE TIME keep that in fucking mind) was harassed by tira via text. They were put in a position where they were forced to convince tira not to kill themselves. A kid should not have to deal with that from some adult that they barely know over the internet. Taking a 14 year olds cellphone number and texting them is a disgusting act itself when you’re over 20 fucking years old. But threatening to kill yourself on top of that. I’ll never be over that. That friend of mine doesn’t even come online anymore, partly due to this. Its so sad. I and other friends of mine called tira out for this and they completely ignored what we were saying, and skipped right to “IM BEING ABUSEDDDDDDD UR ALL ABUSIVE.” So, i called tira a disgusting human being (like they are), and unfollowed/blocked like all of my friends. It was seriously horrible. I advise minors to stay the fuck away from tira (along with everyone, but especially minors.)
I also mentioned that i wanted to share the best one for last. The one above was by far the worst thing that tira ever did that affected me personally. This one is just funny. Tira once posted a nude picture of themself (im not sure if it was on their main or their private account, either way i was a minor and i followed both) and for a caption they were talking about how they posted this nude picture to “punish” themself. I might’ve been a minor but it didn’t make me angry or anything, I thought it was fucking hilarious and to this day i still laugh about it. I can still see it in my head it was so ridiculous. BUT i know there were other minors also following whatever account that was, and it was probably so uncomfortable for them. And that fact pissed me off. Along with that, I’ve never really cared about nsfw content, but tira CONSTANTLY posted about sex. alllll the time. with no concern to who saw it. I know my close friends were extremely uncomfortable with this.
Thats all i’ve got. I’m not someone who likes to jump on the call out train, but when i was told this blog exists i figured i should share my experiences. I consider Tira an actual threat to people, especially kids.
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