#rolin put me in the writers room

[casually-slips-into-coma]

sorry im still talking about this,, but the armand twist in the finale wouldve packed a waaayyyy bigger punch if it was revealed he orchestrated claudias murder and also louis’ salvation. if he planned to kill claudia out of some fucked up love he had for louis that wouldve been a DEVASTATING plot point. it would have been so delicious to see louis have to come to terms with the fact that armand killed claudia for him. like thats so fucking horrifying but thats also why im watching this show. i want to be horrified

it also is completely in line with what we’ve seen of armand. it wouldve been a fire parallel to what happened in the 70s with daniel, where armand went fucking crazy and possessive and hurt/tortured an innocent because of louis (im not blaming louis for what armand did to daniel u know what i mean by that). his whole thing is that he’s someone so so desperate for love that he’s willing to do anything to keep it for himself including killing the love of his life’s daughter, including torturing a random guy for a week straight, including manipulating memories

the reveal shouldve just been that armand directed the play and he was behind it the whole time and that he was the reason claudia died. can u imagine??? a scene of louis and armand in dubai directly after the twist is revealed to louis????? where armand is trying desperately to explain how he killed louis’ daughter as an act of love for him??????? and that louis just wouldnt understand and thats why hes been lying to him the whole time?? that would’ve been amazing jacob and assad wouldve ate so bad

it just seems like the writers were like armand is the villain👎👎👎 and lestat is the hero👍👍👍 when one of the huge messages of the show is that they are ALL monsters

[aquarines]

i really do hope we get sam reid in the writer's room, because i don't know if i can take any more lestat slander from some of the writers. the whole point of tvl is lestat telling his side of the story to louis. it's a love letter to him, explaining everything he couldn't while they were together. lestat isn't perfect, of course, but he's also generous and giving and awkward with some things. some of the writers have bought into the lestat self-hate, thinking that's who he actually is. hello!!! the man hates himself, thinks he's irredeemably evil, and in so doing, ACTS that way! hello!!! he isn't!!! it's been shown time and again from other characters that he's pretty great, if not a little insufferable at times. he is scared of being unloveable!!! WHEN HE IS SO LOVEABLE, I LOVE HIM SO MUCH, HE IS WORTH THE OCCASIONAL ANNOYING SHIT. you could spit in lestat's face, call his mother a whore, and then STAB him, and if he loves you he'd say "aww, someone's feeling grumpy : )" and then just keep going. THAT'S WHO LESTAT IS. (hi i have a cold and im thinking about him and all the missteps that happened in the show so far regarding his character).

heyo, sorry for the late(ish) response, and i hope you feel better now <333 drink some ginger and lemon tea, it always works for me (also lessen smoking if you do because it worsens the symptoms lol i speak from experience)

i basically agree with everything you wrote, like samuel is a true lestat understander in a way i feel some iwtv writers are simply not

like i wonder how they're going to adapt that part where he claims he seduced magnus and that's why magnus raped him into vampirism, if they take everything he says at face value

and yes his never ending tenacity and hope is one of his main traits, like he's literally "always turning the worst of a situation into something good" character embodied and it's what helps him survive all the shit anne puts him through in every book

like he got turned into a monster non-consensually and said "okay i'll be the best (i.e. the most a monster could be) monster you've ever seen"

also he simply does not give up on people no matter what they do to him!!! which is a coping mechanism but it's his whole thing!!! aaah i hope they translate this well on screen

yes he's a bit insufferable and does dumb shit some times (maybe a few more times) but what book or show character didn't?

anyways i love him your honour and i need tvl to be perfectly adapted or i'll be writing a strongly worded email to rolin jones (jk)

[nalyra-dreaming]

It's not just that they aren't filming, they haven't even announced a single new cast member. They've known they were renewed for season 3 for almost a year (that we the public know of), if not longer, and season 3 introduces major characters in The Vampire Chronicles and no one has been announced. Rolin took this job in order to do TVL, so we know he's had this mapped out for quite a while. And they already knew the type of direction they were going to immediately create and release a TVL teaser immediately after season 2 ended. I thought that meant they were getting to work and would keep the momentum going but they didn't open the writers room until the end of October. 4 months later and still no announcements and no filming. They shouldn't have even bothered dropping that teaser last year since they're taking 2+ years to put it out. It's not like the show's getting any kind of award recognition so it's in people's minds and would almost guarantee renewal. I mean for god sakes Jacob just did an interview with someone and he didn't even ask about the show! Instead, he was asked about a show that ended 6 years ago that he had an incredibly small part in. But these days, shows are being canceled left and right and thank God this is not a Netflix production because it would have been canceled immediately after season 1 because of low ratings even though it is one of the most critically acclaimed shows on television right now. But it being on AMC, who no longer has the budget they used to have to campaign and promote properly, still makes me nervous.

That interview with Jacob was... indeed quite sobering. I mean the guy didn't do a good job (at all), but that part of it is surely the most sobering one. Despite Jacob saying he should watch the show...

It is a good thing we are on AMC, otherwise we wouldn't have the show we have now, and other networks are more likely to cancel, agreed.

And yes, I think a lot of us expected the teaser... to mean more. To mean they were laying it all out. As you said, and as Rolin has stated from the beginning, he took the job for TVL.

I do hope that despite all the waiting, hiatus, and lost momentum... it pays off.

[pynkhues]

Speaking of Sam's tiny ankle agenda, this is ridiculously specific but as a horror media enthusiast, I must say I hope they fully lean into the horror aspect in the Magnus scenes in s3 and have him properly haunt Lestat before capturing and turning him. I'm talking about Magnus blinking in/out of the frame like a ghost, dragging Lestat by his tiny ankle at night like the Demon toying with Regan in the Exorcist, mind-controlling other people to make Lestat feel even more paranoid and crazy. Dread and paranoia is honestly my fav part of horror and TVL gives sooo much potential. Plus I just think Sam would be having so much fun lol

It was actually one of the things that really struck me in re-reading that part of TVL in writing Ungodly Hour, but Magnus literally does stalk him for months. The book's pretty clear that Lestat gets on stage the first time in the summer, first sees Magnus sometime at the end of the summer, and then keeps seeing him in flashes and glimpses until Magnus abducts him and at that point it's snowing. And man, there's even horror before the turning sequence, because the abduction scene where Lestat's taken from his bed with Nicki + the snowy rooftop scene that immediately follows are genuinely scenes of pretty abject horror even before we get to Magnus' tower at all.

I kind of touched on it in my Byronic Hero post, but there's a real difference between genre conventions of terror and horror in gothic literature and they're often gendered with terror being considered female gothic and horror male gothic. What's interesting (and I genuinely think is pretty masterful in Anne's writing) is the way she shifts between the rising terror towards the end of the Lelio Rising part of the book and The Legacy of Magnus part until it shifts very suddenly and dynamically into full-blown horror. It's honestly a pretty brilliant use of genre conventions, and a real showcase of Anne's talent of a writer.

It's so obviously something Rolin's been drawn to, or at least compelled by, given how often he's brought it up in press for the first two seasons, and so I'm really curious as to how he envisions it. Given what he's said already, I can't really see them not going all in, and even putting the turning sequence aside, I think there's so much room for what you're talking about. Like, his face appearing like a disembodied mask in the audience at Lestat's shows is terrifying, and even the stuff afterwards of Magnus having chosen and laid out an outfit for Lestat after he's assaulted Lestat and then burned himself alive in front of him is like, the best, most insidious sort of gothic terror dressed up as something borderline romantic, which to me, just amplifies the horror of it all.

I don't think they're going to do a 1:1 adaptation of the book at all either (especially given they've already changed a few things around, particularly the timeline), and I'm really curious as to what that actually means.

[virginiaisforvampires]

Hey I have questions about titles if you don't mind me asking :)

Why do you think we don't get any info who writen and name of ep8? Should we expect some surprise? (My little theory is that quote for this episode will be from TVL or at least Lestat's quote to smoother transition in s3)

Do you mind elaborating what this "Like the light...." Quote means? I reread several times but it's confusing because I'm not native English speaker 😅

Is "no pain" quote too? I didn't read the book so maybe there was some memorable moment with it. (Bet no pain episode will be full of pain)

"I want you more than anything in the world" being ep7 is so surprising to me, because it evokes image of grand loumand romance and I'd would expect it as ep2-3-4 not ep7 especially as it seems it placed AFTER trial. I know that it's Armand's words to Louis and pretty sure he said it before Claudia was killed, no? I wanted to ask, what do you think we should expect in episode with this title considering it's second to last?

Thank you so much!

Hi there! 💙

1. I believe the writer(s)/title for 2x08 will be a huge spoiler. I would bet money that once we get this bit of info, we’ll be able to immediately piece together what happens in the finale and also possibly how it’ll connect us to TVL. My hunch? Rolin will be the main writer for the episode, but I have no idea about which quote they could use.

2. “Like the light by which God made the world before He made light” is said by Louis after Claudia kills Lestat and they throw him in the swamp, but before Lestat comes back, and Louis sets him on fire. Louis is angry with Claudia for what she did. He’s bereft over it, saying he wanted to follow Lestat down into the swampy waters. Claudia is crying and begging him not to be angry with her, saying she can’t live without him. She wears Louis down, and he convinces himself that he has forgiven her, and he tries to concentrate on their “freedom” and beginning the “great adventure of our lives” to forget about what happened to Lestat. However, he struggles with this, because he truly just wants to understand why God would suffer the existence of an evil creature like himself.

The great adventure of our lives. What does it mean to die when you can live until the end of the world? And what is ‘the end of the world’ except a phrase, because who knows even what is the world itself? I had now lived in two centuries, seen the illusions of one utterly shattered by the other, been eternally young and eternally ancient, possessing no illusions, living moment to moment in a way that made me picture a silver clock ticking in a void: the painted face, the delicately carved hands looked upon by no one, looking out at no one, illuminated by a light which was not a light, like the light by which God made the world before He had made light. Ticking, ticking, ticking, the precision of the clock, in a room as vast as the universe.

As I said, Louis is not well, and he feels guilty about what happened to Lestat. He ends up killing a priest after asking the priest why God suffers the likes of him to live. To put it simply, Louis is realizing what immortality truly means in this moment, and he believes he’s inherently evil and should not be allowed to exist within the human world. He begins to wonder why such an evil was allowed to even form in the first place.

It’s also worth noting that this particular quote is one Rolin was apparently obsessed with working into the show, and I can understand why. The clock metaphor for immortality is brilliant and the reference to an inexplicable light before God made actual light is so impactful as an analogy for their curiosity about their origins and the meaning of their existence as vampires, because what is the light if not light? It’s something that just is, and Louis can’t seem to reconcile this. There’s no explanation, no grand meaning. What is anything? That’s where Louis’ headspace is during this moment, and it’s one of the reasons why he easily falls for Armand later, because Armand offers “answers” to these questions for Louis.

3. “No pain” is said by Armand repeatedly during a live performance being seen by Louis and Claudia upon their first visit to the Théâtre des Vampires.

And, looking up again, I saw her shimmering in the smoky light of the footlamps, saw her tears like gold as soft from that other vampire who stood at a distance came the words…‘No pain.’

This is Armand using his mind gift to subdue their mortal victim on stage and essentially throw her into the swoon before they kill her for the audience. Louis is both enthralled and appalled, and I predict this phrase will be utilized in a mocking way by Santiago during Claudia’s trial performance before they kill her.

4. The episode titles aren’t in chronological order. We actually don’t know which episode “I want you more than anything in the world” will be. I predict it’s 2x04, and I’ve put the titles in the order I think they’ll appear along with their original context and who says each quote:

2x01: Don’t be afraid, just start the tape

The vampire sat down slowly opposite him and, leaning forward, said gently, confidentially, “Don’t be afraid. Just start the tape.” (Title originally said by Louis)

I believe this episode will contain some of the unraveling of what was revealed in 1x07. I’m really not sure how Daniel would allow the interview to just continue without getting at least some of the truth out in the open. I could be totally off and they save that for later, but I really think it’s imperative parts of murder night are revisited here, because otherwise Louis’ emotional struggles won’t make much sense in the following episodes, and we know from filming spoilers that will be a factor. I also suspect part of the original interview will be revisited here since Daniel now knows Armand was there too, and I think this quote will be from San Francisco 1973 like in the book.

2x02: Like the light by which God made the world before He made light

The great adventure of our lives. What does it mean to die when you can live until the end of the world? And what is ‘the end of the world’ except a phrase, because who knows even what is the world itself? I had now lived in two centuries, seen the illusions of one utterly shattered by the other, been eternally young and eternally ancient, possessing no illusions, living moment to moment in a way that made me picture a silver clock ticking in a void: the painted face, the delicately carved hands looked upon by no one, looking out at no one, illuminated by a light which was not a light, like the light by which God made the world before He had made light. Ticking, ticking, ticking, the precision of the clock, in a room as vast as the universe. (Title originally said by Louis)

Like I said above, Louis is really having a hard time. I think this episode will mostly contain them traveling through Europe, encountering the revenants, and also fully setting up and exploring the conflict between Louis and Claudia. I think the Lestat hallucinations will be full-throttle by this point.

2x03: What can the damned really say to the damned

But oh, how the quest for the Old World vampires filled me with bitterness in those moments, a bitterness I could all but taste, as if the very air had lost its freshness. For what secrets, what truths had those monstrous creatures of night to give us? What, of necessity, must be their terrible limits, if indeed we were to find them at all? What can the damned really say to the damned? (Title originally said by Louis)

The interesting thing about this quote is the full context of when and why Louis says it. He recalls a conversation with him and Claudia in which Claudia coldly and methodically detailed to Louis exactly how she believed Lestat had survived. She also mentions that he should’ve been burned in the first place to truly kill him, and Louis is horrified both with her detachment but the fact Lestat could even survive any such as what they did to him. That is the element of fear Louis is referring to. He wasn’t actually afraid of Lestat. He was afraid of their nature, because Lestat coming back from the swamp had truly revealed to Louis the notion of immortality, and he was repulsed to think that vampires could just survive, not from sheer will, but because they had no other choice. He wasn’t interested in finding others of their kind or knowing their origins for the reasons Claudia wanted to know. Louis wanted to know “why under God this suffering was allowed to exist, why under God it was allowed to begin, and how under God it might be ended.” Although, he also mentions he didn’t have the courage to end it. We’ll see how this element plays out, especially with the theories about the Merrick ending. I think this is the episode in which they’ll meet Armand and the Théâtre des Vampires, because Louis’ internal struggles being expressed in this moment perfectly intertwines with his feelings upon encountering other vampires and seeing how they live and conduct themselves.

2x04: I want you more than anything in the world

And after a long interval he said, ‘I want you. I want you more than anything in the world.’ For a moment I doubted what I’d heard. It struck me as unbelievable. And I was hopelessly disarmed by it, and the wordless vision of our living together expanded and obliterated every other consideration in my mind. (Title originally said by Armand)

This is when Armand fully offers Louis a new way of life and understanding about their nature. He tells Louis that he is the heart and that his mortal passion is what draws Armand like a moth to a flame, because Armand needs it. He reflects to Louis about times changing around them, yet they remain the same. The rite of passage, and he explains to Louis that he can live without guilt and without the notion of original sin to govern them. I think this is the episode in which the bond between Louis and Claudia is fully broken, and Louis will create Madeleine as the final act of severing his humanity.

2x05: No pain

And, looking up again, I saw her shimmering in the smoky light of the footlamps, saw her tears like gold as soft from that other vampire who stood at a distance came the words…’No pain.’ (Title originally said by Armand)

No pain, yet loads of pain. I predict this episode will be the trial. However they play it out, I think this episode will be gruesome, painful, horrific, gut-churning, heartbreaking. I also predict a parallel to 1x05 between Armand and Lestat in which Armand throws Lestat off the tower.

2x06: I could not prevent it

I could see Armand’s rich, brown eye close to mine, and I felt weak all over and vaguely aware that Madeleine and Claudia were dead, his voice saying softly, perhaps soundlessly, ‘I could not prevent it, I could not prevent it…’ And they were dead, simply dead. And I was losing consciousness. Santiago was near them somewhere there where they were still, that hair lifted on the wind, swept across those bricks, unraveling locks. But I was losing consciousness. (Title originally said by Armand)

The relationship between Louis and Armand shifts in this one. Louis realizes that Armand could’ve stopped everything, and he punishes for Claudia by burning the theater down.

2x07: Do you know what it means to be loved by death

‘Unconscious death…the fate of all mortals.’ He bent closer to her, musing, infatuated with her, but struggling, ‘Hmmm…but we are conscious death! That would make you a bride. Do you know what it means to be loved by Death?’ He all but kissed her face, the brilliant stain of her tears. ‘Do you know what it means to have Death know your name?’ (Title originally said by Santiago)

Santiago says this quote to their mortal female victim during the performance witnessed by Claudia and Louis, the same performance in which Armand tells the woman “no pain.” I think this penultimate episode will fully explode the narrative from S1. I think Devil’s Minion will be out in the open, I think the real Claudia will be out in the open, and I think the full breadth and depth of Armand’s tinkering will be exposed to Louis. It all boils over here, and I think it’ll culminate in Louis attempting suicide. The quote about being “loved by death” goes hand-in-hand with Louis’ deteriorating mental state, because Louis has always felt like a specter, detached from humanity, constantly looking into the place he can never go again. This is why he couldn’t sever ties with his businesses, why he wanted to continue the relationship with his family, why he wanted Claudia, why he couldn’t acknowledge his love for Lestat. It all leads here. Death for mortals, but not death for vampires. The veil that separates them from humans. Louis can no longer cope with the horror of immortality. “Loved by death” as in released from suffering is the greatest act of love and kindness they can be granted, and I think that’s what Louis will try to do after he’s confronted with everything.

So yeah, idk if all that made sense. We’ll see how it goes, and I cannot wait! 😁

[canonicallysoulmates]

Some highlights from an interview Jacob recently did:

When asked what fans can expect from s2: "If you can believe it, it's a lot darker than the book" x

Darker than the book?! We're not surviving s2.

"Rolin [Jones], very gracefully let me and Sam have meetings with the writers room in between seasons and they asked a few questions about what we thought" x

I absolutely love that they got to speak with the writers and share their input on some things because both Jacob and Sam have shown not only how much they love and care about their characters but also how well they understand them, and how much thought they put into how they portray them.

"On season one and season two we always refer back to the books." x

About portraying Louis and people's reaction to the first season: "I'm just really glad that people accepted me. I'm sure everybody didn't but the people that did I feel really grateful, and I'm glad that I did the character justice. But also that like I really love Louis. I really love this character. I would be dissapointed if he wasn't executed with justice. That sounds like he was going to be sentenced to death that's not what I mean, but particularly our version of Louis I really care about him. I really care about getting it as right as I possibly can." x

He also says he's a very offline person but I hope he knows how much we love him and his amazing portrayal of Louis ❣️

On working with Sam on s2: "Yeah, I have to be careful about how I answer this question. All I'll say is that after we finished shooting me and Sam have been in constant contact anyway, and we did all the press together as well. We're just friends so like we're chatting anyway. So whenever we're working together on s2- if we're working together on s2."

I don't believe that "if" for a second 😂

"Me and Sam had a bit of rehearsal at the beginning, we'd go for walks around New Orleans. We'd walk for hours just around the city and we'd just chat and get to know each other."

For hours?! That's so cute.

Full interview

[murfpersonalblog]

You definitely did your job right, Rolin, cuz wtf. Yes, 2x5 was a tour de force of acting & writing, bravo bravo. But 2x7 keeps me up at night, istg. 👌 That Trial pisses me right off, and I'm disgusted by how accurate 2x2 was about the audience being COMPLICIT, cuz this rancid fandom's been proving Santiago right every dang day.

And some of that IMO is the writing's fault, where things aren't messy for the sake of drama & good tv, but are messy as part of the strike's fallout. I truly hope they've been taking fans' feedback & critiques to heart, cuz people are running around with all kinds of conclusions & assumptions about 2x7 and 2x8 that y'all need to address in S3.

I'm glad he's aware that some of the writing makes no effing sense.

I never liked using memory is the monster as a crutch for plot holes & retcons, but I commend Rolin for the clever things he did do despite the strikes & budget/production issues, to still stick the landing in S2. We'll have to see where S3 takes it, but i do have faith that if anyone can pull it off, Rolin can.

"Everybody in the [writer's] room relives their worst fight with someone they shouldn’t have been in love with but wanted to be." I love this. Cuz people wanna act like this show isn't a deliberately literal mirror of IRL relationships, and the monsters within us that make us say "ugly words." That's GOTHIC literature 101. It's not subtle at all. The absence of metaphor is so striking.

You pissed off EVERYONE--me included--and I love you for it, RJ. Is this the best vampire show I've ever seen? Not quite--Bram Stoker's Dracula is near & dear to my heart; and Castlevania S1 was a revelation. But this is HANDS DOWN the best fantasy book adaption I've seen since Lord of the Rings. IWTV's way better than Game of Thrones (I hear House of the Dragon is mid AF, which I expected). This is "harder to swallow" cuz it puts the onus on lazy AF viewers to not turn their brains off & put in actual legwork to look things up themselves. (Plus there's Bipoc leads, which also grates racists. I guarantee that S3 will have a very different reception since Lestat's the lead.)

Yaaaas~! SUFFER!

AMC should 100% release the full footage of the plays on their website or on Youtube or SOMETHING, wtf!? I thought the plays were so cool! WEIRD, ofc, but so cool!

STFU, Rolin--you should ABSOLUTELY do Forrest Gump, LOL. XD Y'all had Sartre eavesdropping on Loumand, and Lestat ghostwriting for Jelly Roll Martin, and Tom Anderson thirsting after Louis--PLEASE keep going, you sicko, yaaas~!

It's so sad that Rolin keeps repeating this, that he thought AMC would cancel them. WTF is going on over there? Y'all spent all this money buying AR's estate--RJ also often talks about their budget issues--just to cancel it? WHY? And why TF has it taken y'all so long to get on other streaming platforms like Netflix? The business moves & marketing has been dog trash since Day One, and it boggles my mind. But thank god AMC's going forward with it--they'd be dumb AF to let this diamond slip through their fingers, just cuz it's not doing HotD numbers.

This makes me feel most insane of all. ROBBED, I tell you!

[idontwikeit]

Now I'm even more mad about ghostat. I'm sure AMC was always going to renew for their silly mcu ass attempt so why interfere and overrule the showrunner to put more of him when we could have used that for more Claudia or Loumand dynamics. There were other ways to illustrate Louis having a breakdown

again I don’t mind having dreamstat he does grow on me but i am opposed to having him in scenes that are truly unnecessary. I have no idea if and how much amc interfere in the writers room but i think rolin is one of the immortal universe showrunner with the new deal? so probably make sense he would work that in, I’m not familiar with the show business so i don’t want to point at amc as some sole scapegoat here, who knows who are behind the decision making. but i will blame amc marketing since it’s glaringly obvious they failed

[danlous]

#god I'm trying so so hard not be a bitch about this but it's soooo annoying to see people who didn't care about the show until now#suddenly decide that they need to take up with it bc for some reason one single trailer of a white guy with longer hair and a#fruity jacket who's in make-up is more compelling than two of the best seasons TV has seen in the last decade#and like I get it a lot of people really looked forward to Lestat and we DID get two season with Louis as the main and it's not even THAT#it's the fact that they even DID that trailer when they never did ANYTHING like it for the other two seasons when the marketing#department was practically silent for s2... the fact that they announced the 3rd season when they did directly before the finale#the fact that the finale WAS so rushed and that for some reason Rolin keeps talking about being SO excited to finally get to do TVL#which on one hand I get bc that's his blorbo we KNOW that but also my dude come on this isn't your fanfiction you're doing a tv show here#... like... god I don't know one of those things I could just ignore but it's EVERYTHING coming together that makes me side-eye#the entire thing so hard rn#like I WANT to have fun I WANT to enjoy watching Lestat make an ass out of himself I want to enjoy watching him on screen#but they're making it SO HARD for us with the way they are laser-focusing on the white guy in the room to the exclusion of everyone else#(obviously like... none of this is Sam's fault that man sometimes says weird shit but I think that has more to do with him just not being#good at talking and also some thoughtlessness than any active negative feelings or intentions on his part like he's FINE just don't put#every word that comes out of his mouth on the gold scales bc I can guarantee you for a lot of the shit he says he probably just didn't thin#it all the way through so 🤷🏼‍♀️ this wasn't his call and it's not his fault.)

#ALSO also the entire 'Well we won't focus on the topic of memory and POV for next season anymore' that Rolin let loose on that one intervie#with AV Club has me genuinely wondering if this man understands what he's doing#like what do you mean we spend two seasons picking apart the memory and stories of a black man and a brown man only to expose one of them#to be an unreliable narrator who needs ANOTHER white guy to safe him and the other as a straight up abusive liar#but now that the white guy walks into the room and is the one to tell his story... now we're.. we're not... we won't do that anymore?????#hey Rolin??? hey ROLIN?!?!?! is this thing on- Rolin WHAT THE FUCK kind of SHIT idea is THAT?!?!#and this is NOT to say they shouldn't have written Louis and Armand being who they ARE that's NOT it they SHOULD but oh my GOD#they should NOT have set up the seasons like that if they DIDN'T want to extend this energy towards Lestat too? like why even START IT#LIKE THIS THEN??? what was the POINT???#good LORD even if they aren't interested in continuing the 'memory is a monster'-theme which is - in my humble opinion -#the DUMBEST decision they could possibly make with this but EVEN THEN you CANNOT TELL ME they don't understand that those optics#are BAD (via @universesvisiting)

Hope including these tags is fine i just thought they were good though i don't entirely agree about everything. I'm more optimistic about s3 and since Rolin and other writers have been mostly stellar so far i have a lot of hope and confidence that they're not going to forget how to write a television show and address serious complex topics just because Rolin's blorbo will be in the spotlight. And i think the strike likely affected the ending of s2 being kind of shoddy, and i also didn't feel like Daniel was portrayed as a 'savior'. But i'm deeply annoyed that the marketing and a significant part of viewers are acting like the REAL show is starting now. Like people in the notes of my posts with Lestat going 'oh i need to start watching this now' like where have you been for the past two years.

And the most annoying thing is when any fan of color expresses any frustration with the marketing or with how many white fans are acting they get rude and condescending reactions from certain fans. I have a lot of trust in Rolin as a showrunner and writer but him having said several times now that they're moving away from unreliable narration and 'memory is a monster' when it's mr Lyingcourt's season makes me raise my eyebrows a little. I hope that Rolin is referring more to the show's narrative structure changing and there being less flashbacks etc. because if he meant to suggest that Lestat is going to be a more reliable narrator than Louis and Claudia that would be incredibly stupid

AMC discarded season 2 like a piece of trash and suddenly has knows how to market this show but iwtv fans will still try to gaslight me & others about their particular motives. 🆗️!!!! No wonder this fandom behaves like the real show is finally starting when the network does too but then I get told im overreacting or bitter 🙃

I was actually just going to make a post about this. I wouldn't go as far as saying amc is discarding s2 like a piece of trash but especially now after they released that lyric video i'm starting to feel there's a very noticeable difference in the marketing between two previous seasons and how the marketing for s3 has started (before they've even finished writing!) Some people cynically predicted in the past that a shift like this would happen when the narrative focus shifts on a white character and it sadly kind of seems they may have been right. It COULD be coincidental like if they're finally listening to people's complaints about bad and lacklustre marketing and how it's limiting their show's potential, or because iwtv is much bigger now than it was even compared to earlier this year and they've probably gotten a bigger marketing budget when amc's confidence in the show's potential has grown. But it's very suspicious that this increase of confidence and realization that their show could be a megahit they should invest in accordingly is happening right at the same time the story shifts to focus on Lestat. I don't subscribe to the idea that amc ever tried to intentionally make the show fail because it would make zero sense financially, but i get an impression they perhaps didn't trust that the first two seasons would have broad mainstream appeal, but now they trust s3 to have that.

I'm still excited for s3 but it's incredibly frustrating to see this difference compared to how s1-2 were treated, when the show's success is very much based on those seasons and their black lead. Like this show has grown its popularity slowly and organically despite weak marketing simply because of how good it and its cast is. And now when it seems to be about to hit the zeitgeist, the network decides that it's time to give full effort when the show is going to focus more on a white man. Anyone who's saying you're overreacting or bitter when pointing that out has not paid attention to how the entertainment industry works because this isn't new or unusual, and there isn't a reason to assume amc is any different than almost all the other networks and studios

[sofipitch]

I'm kind of scratching my head about what they want to do with Claudia and her storyline this season. I've been ok with ageing her up and Bailey is a phenomenal actress. She's mesmerizing. But even her capacity to captivate my attention couldn't stop me from seriously questioning her character arc.

The whole idea of Claudia (in the books) was that she was an adult stuck in a small child's body, unable to live "a normal adult life". Unable to be her own independent, free person. Always needing somebody to care for her and to help her with the aspects of her life that intersected the human world. She was doomed to be dependent on one of her parents forever. And she realized that. She realized that Louis would be the only one who would bend to her will, who wil go where she wants, who will do what she asks. She loved him I have no doubt, but she also knew he was the "weak link".

That's not what I saw in this episode. They had Claudia learn how to drive , they had her go to college, they had her living alone for 7 years. She did so more or less successfully (cause they showed she wasn't as careful with her killings like L&L), but she managed just fine for 7 years. She returned home out of loneliness (in her diary) and because of the SA. Which brings me to the other point of contention. I'm disgusted that they aged Claudia just to write a rape scene in her narrative! to make her tough!!

Where is the dependance on her parents? Where is the vital need for an adult to help her navigate her life? Where is the feeling that she couldn't live in that house anymore because Lestat was the autocrat controlling everything and it was either her or Lestat? Cause if she didn't like living there, show Claudia could just leave. Where are the manipulations regarding Louis? Where is the selfishness mixed with the rightful desire for independence?

Because show Claudia, as they have portrayed her, is just a reckless girl who can't control her killings, who came home to save her dad/older brother from the evil sadistic bastard that is her other parent. Her motivations are nearly selfless. After what show Lestat did, she's 100% right to want to take Louis from him and run to the other corner of the earth. Let alone kill him after that brutal beating. There is no ambiguity left. I can't see show Claudia as a manipulative little monster desperate for love. I see a younf vampire who can't control her powers but who wants to save her loved ones.

Yeah I 100% agree, I was willing to suspend disbelief about Claudia. Like Charlie thought she was still 14 so maybe that would still create road blocks to running away. Like can a 14 year old get a hotel room? Where does she put her coffin? Did she have to buy a new one? She doesn't know you can bury yourself in the earth so she COULD have been still lost and dependent bc of looking like a child but yeah they threw that away without a second thought.

And the thing is, in the books, Claudia maybe only indirectly dies because she ran away. But it's NEVER framed as "her fault she should have listened to Lestat". Armand killing her is something that both her dads take on as their own guilt. Claudia's death is always loustat's failure. The way Rolin Jones framed the SA it could be seen as a stand in for Claudia's death in a way, that "runs away -> gets hurt" but he clearly blamed her with his phrasing and that to me is disgusting and vile.

I agree that Bailey is awesome as Claudia, it's the writer's who dropped the ball and couldn't be normal about writing a female character. Her backstory is she was abused, she is never actually loved by one of her adopted fathers, she can't find romantic love, she runs away from home and is assulted, she watches her father/brother violently abused. The story they gave Claudia is just one of nonstop pain and I think the writers should sit down and evaluate why. And why the pains that she suffered in the books I guess "weren't dramatic enough". But Claudia is the gender dysphoria character and they basically stripped that one away big time for "child of abuse character"

[virginiaisforvampires]

Hey! Talamasca show just started production and filming. I’m kinda excited to see where it goes. But it got me thinking, and so I went back to check a few things.

The series was green lit in June, same month as IWTV was renewed. The first casting announcement came on the 4th of September. And yesterday 8th of October they began filming. We also know that iwtv3 will start shooting the 30th of November.

So I wonder, is AMC going to release some castings (Gabrielle, Marius and Akasha) by the end of October and through November?

Also, a document where Jacob was listed to film Bad apples also noted that he was going to film one episode of IWTV. Which… idk, makes me wonder if the document is only in regards of 2025, and so they’ll film the trial and Paris scenes in December and have Jacob film the rest for other locations? I doubt he’s going to skip most of season 3, since they’re doing tvl in one season unlike iwtv (strike and budget and covid that split the first book in two seasons aside, there was a post on tumblr abt Rolin saying tvl will only be one season, but I haven’t found the source for that. And by logic, they should’ve renewed iwtv for two seasons if they were going to split the book in half again. They renewed IWTV for a second season before the pilot even aired, because they couldn’t leave the story hanging, so why would they split tvl in two and have the possibility of being canceled before we got Lestat’s full story happen?) and it was established that Louis wasn’t going anywhere, contrary to the book counterpart

Hey!

Color me of the opinion that they won’t release any casting news for IWTV. They have their core cast set, and they’ve yet to even announce that Joe is playing Nicki (who I would argue is a very important character along with Gabrielle).

I will be very surprised if we get anything “official” from AMC wrt IWTV for a good while. The most we can hope for are filming spoilers. 🤞🏽

Also that site listing Jacob as having one episode of IWTV is IMDB, and it is not reliable. Anyone can edit that info if they have an account. Jacob filmed Bad Apples back in March/April (that’s why he didn’t attend the AMC Upfronts event), and no one knows (other than Rolin and the powers that be) how many episodes are happening in S3 or if the season will be split (Rolin has not definitively said) or what the scripts will consist of as the writers room has just started to put it all on paper.

[virginiaisforvampires]

I love the way Sam talks about the show with such passion and his use of language, I could listen to him all day. I remember his interview published on the amc website after ep 5 really put me at ease after everything that went down. He has such a clear understanding of Anne’s writing and Lestat’s characterisation. It is kinda funny how they seem to know Sam’s a good spokesperson for book-readers fears and he can assure people to stick with the process as they build the story in their own way. I would love to know the convos he has with Rolin and the writers lol

I do wonder when he said that it was ‘confronting’ as a book reader if he did in fact mean in terms of lestat’s writing in the season. Like you said it could mean a lot of things! But lestat being so different in later books compared to iwtv is what I keep coming back to when there might be unsettling things for book readers to see, considering how endeared the reader is with lestat by book 13 but maybe I’m not understanding his quote clearly. It could also mean upping the brutality of the armand stuff too and knowing how loving his relationship with Louis and lestat is by the end of the chronicles, it would be shocking for readers to see him at his worst on screen. I wanna hope you’re right we shouldn’t assume lestat will be too one-dimensional before season 3 but the ‘he’s not very introspective’ and comments about his lacking of self-awareness I worry we will just see his humanity a little in the 1700’s scenes but his Paris scenes may just be him in half-dead crazed ep 7 mode told from a biased perspective and just a tease of him in Dubai :/

Or the 1700’s flashbacks may be the most ‘confronting’ there’s a lot of room for them to play around in with those scenes and a lot of room to piss people off if they don’t get young lestat right

I read Sam’s latest EW interview, and this quote in particular made me smile so big, because I was like ‘Oh, he soooo understands Lestat 🥺’

Anyways, it’s worth remembering that Season 2 is now going to be Armand’s POV on Lestat, and Armand very much has a hate-love-hate relationship with Lestat. I’m also willing to bet that we move into present-day more quickly than people are expecting, and that means we’ll get more than just a tease of present-day Lestat. Season 3 has to be properly set up in some way for Lestat to take over for The Vampire Lestat.

Based on filming spoilers, we’re already going to be in the heart of the second half of the book by Episodes 3/4. That’s still half a season left for them to explore stuff further, and Sam said as much in the EW interview. It’s very clear from the teaser trailer that Armand is in charge of the narrative now, and Armand is canonically obsessed with Lestat. What I think Sam meant about it being confronting for book readers is the fact that Lestat in the first book is an entirely different beast from the second book onward. People tend to forget he was initially portrayed as an asshole tyrant, but Anne retconned that when she decided to continue the Chronicles with Lestat as the main character. You read The Vampire Lestat and realize there is no way some of that stuff happened as told. The show is very much leaning into this unreliable narrator aspect between the first two books, much to the chagrin of some, and Sam is seemingly aware of that too.

[virginiaisforvampires]

Hello and happy new year 💛

I know you're probably tired to talk about it but I just wanted to say that reason why Armand always fascinated me is because Anne didn't plan to make him anything aside from antagonist (from literature point) of IWTV and TVL until QOTD particularly Devil's Minion.

What I love is that Anne didn't change Armand to make people love him or root for Armandaniel, he's toxic and violent still but now he's truly in love. I think it's testament to how good of writer Anne is to make readers love Armand (who at this point didn't wrote his own book with backstory!) I too saw people call it cheap and shallow and dumb to make Armand responsible for all bad things but isn't it a point of Armand's character arc? Or at least part of it? Armand's first impression being utterly unhinged in his villainous glory, then have him fall in deep obsession/passion and later love with human, being equally cruel and alluring until we start to root for him even though he didn't particularly gave us any reason? Him slowly changing, showing his softer broken side (And than of course comes tragic backstory that will capture everyone's hearts)

My point is a lot of people claim to love Armand but seem to not ready to experience the way his own narrative will play out? Can't really blame them, it'll be rollercoaster, but I doubt anyone in this writer room will pull punches. And if they do try to tone down Armand for the sake of wider audience I'll be disappointed, Armand's unique not even for vampires in general, he's unique for ricean vampires who way more predatory and dangerous than usual. I guess we'll see when that scene in theatre with naked lady comes in, will they keep Armand doing it with clear sexual undertone or change things? If they do keep it as it is in book, we finally have real Armand on our screens :)

Happy New Year! 🍾

That’s exactly the point of his character arc. He does deliberately horrific shit to Louis and Lestat, and they forgive him. The book audience forgives him, and Devil’s Minion only served to further endear him to people. And really, it’s been a bit since I read The Vampire Armand, but there were passages of it floating around on Twitter during the latest discourse on Marius, and I had forgotten exactly how brutally heartbreaking and gut-wrenching and nauseating his backstory was at times. If they’re already including some elements of his backstory since it’s Armand’s POV in S2? Yeah, the TV audience will forgive him too. Eventually. I’ve already talked about that, most notably here.

To your other point, I don’t think they’ll tone Armand down at all. Jacob has spoke to this as well, most recently in the Pilot TV podcast:

“There are things that…anybody, any fan of Anne Rice’s writing and specifically the Vampire Chronicles will know who Armand is, and it’s still very much a part of this adaptation. We’re still…he’s a very complicated character in a different way to Lestat, but he is complicated. Everybody is a mess. That is Jacob Anderson’s take on season two. *laughs* Everybody is a mess.”

The ones saying it would be cheap or shallow to make Armand the culprit behind Louis’ skewed memories? Sometimes I question if they’ve actually read the books, because that’s literally what happens. He fucks with both Louis’ and Claudia’s mind. I’ve talked about that too here and here.

There was also this interview with Assad that @nalyra-dreaming brought my attention:

“With this version, we have put Armand in the context of the first interview, whereas originally, he’s not there. Louis is free to tell his own story start to finish with just him and Daniel there. We can speculate and think maybe Armand has been tinkering here and there.”

“Tinkering.”

I’ve used that exact word previously to describe what Armand is doing. And, of course, Rolin himself in 1x07 Episode Insider:

“I think there has been a story that has been told to Louis that Louis told to himself that maybe Armand has told to him, too. This is a major player out there, folks! This is the leader of a coven of vampires.”

Lastly, there’s also this interview with Adam O’Byrne in which he specifically mentions the real reason Daniel was brought to Dubai will become clear in S2:

“Why Armand is doing what he’s doing and the dynamics between the two of them – meaning Louis and Armand and then also frankly, Armand and Molloy – are things that will be heavily explored in season two.”

“Why Armand is doing what he’s doing…”

What *is* he doing, exactly? Unless it’s, I don’t know, influencing Louis’ memories? Tinkering with things? Coloring the tale? ���

I mean, it’s pretty clear where everything is going at this point. Armand is Armand is Armand.

[virginiaisforvampires]

Hello V, hope you’re doing well❤️

Following up with that last anons question, what would be a major arc for Louis moving forward? (sorry if you have already spoken on the topic) If we have Rockstat, Akasha and Body Thief plot for Lestat. Armand has his own book with his own backstory and DM. Daniel would be taking the role of David if theories are correct. What is Louis gonna do? As one of the leads I feel like his storyline must be compelling enough to hold its own and drive the story forward but what could that possibly be? Because to me, which I can be totally wrong, Louis already did the Merrick plot line with the attempted suicide in the 70s. Do you think they will write original material for him if they don’t revisit? And if not, what character in the books has a compelling enough story worthy to be given to a lead like Louis that the writers would be willing to scrap that character and have him take over? If we only have him playing support for all the terrible things that Lestat is going to go through in the coming seasons, he would be just that, a supporting character not a lead.

I know that Loustat is the heart of the show and they will have an epic love story to showcase, but I don’t want Louis to be just the supportive romantic love interest. Realistically speaking when iwtv hits its 5th season, what plot line would he have that holds the same weight to the story like Lestats in the books? Maybe this is just my GOT ptsd that I acquired over the years, because to say that Jacob’s talents were wasted on that set would be an underestimate. Would love to hear your thoughts on this if possible?

Ps. I realized after typing this, that I am speaking to you, as if you were a part of the writer’s room (👀unless?) and for that I apologize. I just get really hyped about seeing this version of Louis have his moment to shine that Anne unfortunately, did not capitalize on. 🥺👉👈

Hello! ❤️

Oh, don’t put me in the writer’s room. Sam is the one who needs to be in there! 😆

I talked a bit about Louis’ future in this post.

In short, I believe Louis will have parts of David’s role while also having original material. Rolin has been very clear about the choices he made in S1/S2 being a deliberate effort to open up the future writing for Louis.

The show is built around Louis + Lestat. There are plenty of arcs for Louis moving forward that keep him as the co-lead with Lestat and like I said, I think a lot of it will be original material in addition to giving him part of David’s role and also expanding/punching up his Prince Lestat arc.

I don’t think you have anything to worry about. 🤗

[nalyra-dreaming]

Hello! I was listening to some old interviews for iwtv season 1 and I was quite surprised by Bailey saying a couple times how the show plays with the question of who the real villain is, and the audience will sort of be left thinking who the bad guy really is…which is find quite interesting because certainly those questions are there if you go looking for them, all the vampires are doing highly immoral things by human standards afterall but the narrative of the last few episodes on the surface seems very cut and dry to me. The show paints Lestat unquestionably as as the villain who our protagonists Claudia and Louis must overcome despite his lingering love and all that, there’s depth there of course but lestat’s perspective isn’t obviously centred because it’s Louis story. It’s curious what the actors on set filming the scenes interpret differently from the final product because to me the writers didn’t frame the last episode that way at all. It reminded me in ep5 how the cast mentioned that while filming it there were differing thoughts on set about what the scene was about, how much is determined in the editing room, because imagine how different the tone of ep 7 would have been if lestat’s balcony monologue had been cut like they almost did.

Jacob put it very much on point, imho, when he said that IWTV is a "beautiful rant about an ex".

Which is exactly what the first half of the book IWTV is as well. The show painted that "villain" portrait very clearly (mind you, they're all monsters and none of them are the "good guy"), but since we already have been told all will be revisited, and both Sam and Jacob joking about not knowing what exactly is the truth.... well.

They knew exactly what they were doing in this show, and with season 1 and what they showed us and how.

The last episode is a bit different already (which is exactly why Rolin fought so hard to get that monologue in imho), because... it is when the longing starts to seep in, when the tale starts to fall apart. (And yes, without it would have been vastly different)

The teaser shows that so clearly already, too, just the few scenes we got showed us a vastly different situation in Dubai, and a yearning Louis in Paris.

So yeah, it is a shame we could not see more of the "decisions" (mayyyybeeee we haven't gotten a lot of BTS stuff on the DVD because maybe they don't want to give too much away?! (Just a theory)), but I think with the revisiting "looming"... we might still get to see some of that.

Because some things... they must have filmed already (like "murder night" for example?!), don't you think?^^

We'll see.

[nalyra-dreaming]

Hi! Feel free not to answer this ask because I know the discourse topic of lestat’s cheating is most definitely a dead horse at this point in the fandom but I wanted to send you some thoughts. I’ve been seeing some of the new viewers from Max who’ve now watched the show simply labelling and dismissing lestat as The Cheater which does sadden me a bit to see how the nuance of loustat’s relationship (from a book fan pov) has been reduced to that because of those particular choices by the writers. I don’t mean to be too negative and I think the nuance IS there in the show, I like so much of what the writers did, but did something like excessively circling back to lestat’s infidelity overshadows too much of the actual core reasons for the families inevitable doom in NOLA? Because I understand how new viewers not picking up some of the other layers to it. In the book the stuff with Antoine is certainly there but that’s at the end of 60 years together as opposed to in the show where it’s like 25 or so years on and off cheating out of 30 years together, it does change things. Do you think that writing choice was the right one in the show or does it depend on if they revisit it in the future? It’s hard as a book fan for me personally to make that call because in the books the relationships are far more fluid, ambiguous, between the lines and all that, so what was and wasn’t infidelity throughout the chronicles just isn’t ever the main concern, there are allusions to jealousy but never betrayal quite like in the show, but the show is doing it’s own thing and maybe this is how iwtv lestat would act in a more monogamous traditional relationship with Louis in this time period, it’s hard to call.

Thanks x

Hey!

(I get you, still....^^)

It is weird (to me), that the focus Louis put on Lestat's cheating... works so well.

Because yes, within the tale Antoinette serves as the "reason". The reason Louis is so destroyed, the reason he is depressed, the reason why Claudia is mad. The reason why Louis is suffering so bitterly.

Convenient, isn't it. :)

Because they were threatened. Louis has a hard time with the right of passage. Louis also has a hard time killing (and an eating disorder), and a hard time with the lack of intimacy coming from the lack of libido. Louis chokes on his own hypocrisy, and the choices he made. His guilt. Louis has bouts of depression. Louis withholds, to punish.

Of course the cheating doesn't help, how could it.

But Louis very skillfully directs the focus of the tale ("Let the tale seduce you") to that aspect of the relationship, and the impact it (undoubtedly) had.

But... others have pointed it out, too (recently saw a post on Twitter, reposted by @neilcfreak there iirc??) that Antoinette... does not quite fit with the tale. Her hairstyle, her clothes. That she doesn't age (until she's turned). The finger thing. And also: the cross-dressing (and a likely resemblance to Gabrielle, I would imagine)

Personally I think the whole Antoinette arc is not yet through.

Maybe she'll be the one accusing them on the stage in Paris. It's certainly possible, and then it would be a heightening of that arc, in a sense.

And maybe... you know I wouldn't put it past Rolin and the writers to go more book canon there and let her show up in Dubai. Because we know already that they're taking from "Prince Lestat". And we know that the tale was not as it was told, at least not completely. We know already that they want to revisit everything and that it will "change how we saw season 1".

On this note:

(I‘m blocked by them but got recc'ed and sent that post 🤷🏽‍♀️):

And that is indeed very interesting - but not just because it fits Louis.

Because Louis does not need to eavesdrop here imho, he is literally in the same room.

But… outside Antoine(tte) is.

Antoine. Subject of the novel. Antoine(tte), tasked to eavesdrop on Louis and Claudia, to keep an eye on them, to follow them. Isolated from them, too.

In the book Antoine is quite soft and somewhat remote, very much intellectually driven and by music, melancholic and socially isolated, something that must have happened to Antoinette as well while she waited those 20 years(?) for Lestat to turn her.

Yet he felt ugly, loathsome, unfit to live, existing from moment to moment like an addict. He gravitated to the crippled, the diseased, the bohemian, and the downtrodden when he wanted an evening of conversation, just a little cerebral companionship. It kept him from weeping. It kept him from killing too brutally and indiscriminately. He slept in graveyards when he could find a large and secret crypt, or in cons in cellars, and now and then almost trapped by the sun he dug straight down into the moist Mother Earth, uttering a prayer that he would die there. [...] Antoine would have gone out west to see Lestat on the stage. But he was still struggling with the simplest difficulties of life in the late twentieth century when the massacres began.

I think that book is another meta commentary on the truth bleeding through and a direct reference to Antoine. Maybe these books are Louis' subconscious, depending on whether he changed that memory/tale himself... or not.

And so... I can totally see the show take Antoine's characterization and return from "Prince Lestat" to be honest.

((Imagine if she's the "interior designer".^^))

We'll see.

But as with all the things about this show I don't think it can be fully analyzed yet. We simply do not have the full picture yet. And so... I'm not 100% sure we are that far from book canon, actually. In fact, I think we may be much closer in some aspects than previously thought.

But we'll see. Season 2 will tell :)

The cheating definitely seems to be what people get worked up most though, which is exactly why the focus is where it is I think...

Look at my right hand, not at my left.

Let the tale... seduce you.

In the pages of the first book, published long ago, he found himself, nameless, “the musician,” with not so much as a physical description except that he’d been a “boy,” a mere footnote to the life and adventures of his maker as told by the vampire Louis, that one whom Lestat had so loved, and feared to anger. “Let him get used to the idea, Antoine, and then I’ll bring you over. I can’t ... I can’t lose them, Louis and Claudia.” [...]

“He was my friend, Lestat,” Antoine confessed. “He told me about his lover, Nicolas, who had been a violinist. He said he couldn’t speak his heart to his little family, to Louis or Claudia, that they would laugh at him. So he spoke his heart only to me.” [...] “But I have to go,” Antoine said. He burst into tears. He wrapped his arms tight around himself and rocked back and forth on the edge of the bed. His long black hair fell down over his face. “I have to get back to Lestat. I have to. And if anyone can help me nd him, it’s Louis, isn’t it?” [...] Let me in, I beg you, let me in. Louis, let me in. Made by Lestat, never having had a chance to know you, never meant to harm you or Claudia, those long-ago times, forgive me, let me in. Benji, my guiding light, let me in. Benji, my consolation in unending darkness, let me in. Armand, I beg you, find a place in your heart for me, let me in.

And Louis lets him in.

Now, I can obviously be wrong^^.

But... I just cannot shake the suspicion that this arc is far from over. 🤷🏽‍♀️