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League members discussing meeting Robin at work:
"Compared to Bats, Robin was a total sweetheart. Ball of sunshine."
"Man, must've been a good day then, the kid I met was a real anklebiter. He pulled out a sword and everything."
"Anklebiter is harsh, the sweet boy I met barely said a word, he just kept asking about Themyscira and the lasso."
"He? I met a blonde girl."
"No, no, black haired boy with blue eyes. We're talking about Robin."
"Yeah same here, blue eyed and tanned."
"Pretty sure he had green eyes. And talked fancy. And kind of scolded me for time travelling."
"The child I met was paler than the moon."
"I'm telling you I met a girl, and she was Robin."
"Well... either we're all wrong or we're all right."
So they arrive at the conclusion that Bats has a shape-shifter for a kid.
#Not particularly original#however still amusing#They conveniently forget how many years have passed between interactions#And also forget that people can have the sameāheroā name#Batman#Batfamily#dc robin#like Red Hood (there was another red hood before that)#Bruce Wayne#Dick Grayson#Jason todd#Damian Wayne#Tim Drake#Stephanie brown#This came to me in a fever dream#jla#justice league
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Duke: Would you slap your favorite brother for a million dollars?
Damian: Yes.
Tim: Yeah. Sorry, Dick.
Jason: I would slap Dick for free.
#dc comics#dc#comics#character dialogue#original dialogue#character dynamics#batfam#batkids#batfamily#batbros#bat brothers#batsiblings#found family#comic books#funny#humor#duke thomas#the signal#damian wayne#robin#tim drake#red robin#jason todd#red hood#dick grayson#nightwing#batboys#hypothetical#family dynamics
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it's a fun hc of mine that during dick's robin days, he went through the "omg i wish i had a cool secret language so i can have secret conversations with my friends" phase all kids go through. but one of his closest friends at the time also happened to be the batman, a guy with possibly the most bizarrely diverse arsenal of skills in the world. bruce sees the merit in the entire idea of a coded language to communicate rudimentary information when they can hear but not see each other. so why not make a code built on bird vocalizations? it's pretty much incomprehensible to anyone without a trained ear or comprehensive knowledge of birding and impossible to even passably mimic without proper training, so while the chances of interception are high, the chances of someone understanding it enough to interrupt during the middle of a bird-convo and feed false information are not.
it also, batman and robin come to realize, feeds into the "holy fuck our vigilantes are cryptids" idea. bird sounds that come from seemingly no determinable location (ventriloquism) come to mean batman and robin are nearby. to the goons of gotham, bird song becomes inextricably connected to getting your ass kicked by the dynamic duo. the real reason why criminals don't operate during the day is because they get skittish and jumpy about if the sounds of birds chirping are real birds or some masked vigilantes lying in wait to rock your shit, and it's just easier to commit crimes during the night when all the birds are asleep so you know for sure.
ornithologists have boards on their bedrooms dedicated to the bird-bats of gotham. they've written dissertations.
the bird language becomes a bit of a batfamily bonding connection. teaching each other how to do different clicks and whistles, making up slang so bruce and barbara can't complain of clogging up comms with non-mission relevant talk, searching up birds to associate them with different people, psychologically terrorizing the criminal populace of gotham by chirping at them...
how the bird code works is that there's a bird assigned to each one of gotham's major heavy hitter criminals and vigilantes, and a few assigned to heroes out of the city (by which i mean the ones the bats associate with often enough to have a sign to address by). the only birds i've got so far are the robin (for robin. self-explanatory) and the glistening-green tanager (for the joker). i only have one for the joker bc i wanted to reference this hc in one of my fics and so searched up green birds to find the most eye-searingly annoying-to-look-at green bird i could find, and the glistening-green tanager was the closest one to fit the bill.
#dc#dc comics#batman#bruce wayne#dick grayson#dc robin#robin#batfam#batfamily#you're a goon in gotham wondering in terror where the hell those menaces are so that their chirping echoes from everywhere at once#and red robin is just snidely insulting your haircut while red hood laughs at you#bird bats of gotham#excalis originals
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Classic Batman humor
#again no original jokes#but they work for our boys#bruce wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#my art#doodles#dc comics#redhood#batman#red robin#batfam#batfamily#batboys#red hood#nightwing#dc robin#robin#dc batman#dc#dc fanart#dcu#dc universe
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One more design , who is next? :)
#red hood#dc comics#tim drake#batman#robin#original design#original concept art dc#jason todd#bruce wayne
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Jason trying to kill the new robin mustāve been really awkward for Tim, but not as awkward as when he found out about his fanboy activities
Jason, aggressively trying to stab him: why would Bruce choose you?? Thereās no way you were tracking us for weeks without him noticing!
Tim: oh shit
Jason, visiting Timās old room in Drake manor: why do you have an entire robin shrine with photos of my face attached with red string
Tim: oh shit
#Tim quietly stands in front of the closet door where he tried to make an original Robin cosplay#bruce Knows#he has resolved to never bring this up#jason todd#batfam#tim drake#robin#batman and robin#batman#bruce wayne#red robin#red hood#tim drake and jason todd#dc robin#they are brothers your honor#brothers who one has attempted to murder their other#whatās a little batarang in the chest between family
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Who Started The Fire?
From the prompts list:
āThatās my emotional support entity of questionable moral standing.ā
Batman stared down the two teens standing before him. The boy was pointedly looking anywhere but the Batās face, finding more interest in the dirt and gravel crunching under his shoes. Meanwhile, the girl stood with her arms crossed, head held high, meeting Batmanās gaze with a defiant glare that wouldnāt be out of place on any of his own childrenās faces.
Behind them lay the smoking remains of what was once a warehouse that had been used as a front for a weapons smuggling operation that the bats had collectively spent the past few weeks investigating. Although their investigation had taken longer than anticipated thanks to this groupās rather impressive security, they had been so close to a breakthroughā¦when the place had gone up in an inferno.
When the Gotham vigilantes had first arrived on the scene the fire had been so intense that theyād had to put in their gas masks to avoid any inhaling any of the thick black smoke from not only the fire, but also whatever chemicals may have potentially been within the building that would have been released into the air.
Batmanās initial hypothesis had been that the group had become aware of their investigation and burned the place to avoid any evidence being discovered while they moved locations. However, that theory had been shelved when Red Hood had announced the presence of charred bodies amongst the rubble, and evidence of explosives having been used in multiple area where the buildingās structure had been the weakest. Whoever had been inside had not had any warning of the blaze that had swallowed the building too fast for them to get to safety, and with the structure being compromised from the explosions all exists had been blocked, preventing the inhabitantās escape. Red Hood and Nightwing had been discussing potential suspects as Batman and Red Robin searched for any evidence that could have survived the destruction, when a clattering sound followed by the sound of voices hushing each other had altered all of the on scene bats to the presence of possibly several unknowns.
The two teens had been apprehended quickly and ushered to the side, far enough away from the scene of the fire to avoid them overhearing details of the investigation and to prevent any potential tampering. Accidental or otherwise. The teens had been stubborn in their refusal to answer any of the batās questions to their presence. Nobody knew why they were there, where they had come from, and they had even refused to disclose their names. Oracle, unfortunately, was sick with the flu and had been gently ordered to rest by Agent A. Batman was nevertheless confident that they would be able to discover their identities quickly either once they had returned to the cave or if they could get the kids to talk.
He would have asked Red Hood to speak with the teens, he was the best with kids. And if caught up in anything illegal they often seemed to respond better to him due to his more ambiguous morals and reputation for ensuring kidās safety. Both from rouges and in some cases, the rest of the bats and birds. But he had been needed in Crime Ally after he had been alerted to a gunfight breaking out between two gangs who had been more hostile and antagonistic in recent months. Nightwing had accompanied him, and Spoiler had diverted from her patrol route to assist. That left Batman and Red Robin behind to deal with both the police and the frustratingly stubborn teens.
Batman resisted the urge to punch the bridge of his nose as yet another question was blatantly ignored by both kids. The boy had begun fiddling with the sleeved of his letterman jacket and the girl had taken to checking her manicured nails for any dirt or imperfections.
Just as he was about to turn the questioning over to one of the on scene police officers, a writhing mass of shadow had emerged from the girlās shadow. Two tendrils of black smoke reached out to wrap themselves around the wrists and hands of both teens, who had in turn glanced down at their hands and smiled.
āWeāre fine,ā the boy had muttered quietly, āno need to worry.ā
āWhat is that?ā Batman asked, eyeing the mass with a cautious suspicion. He wanted to believe it wasnāt hostile given the kids reactions to it. But this was Gotham.
The girl shot him another glare, one hand on her hip while the other remained in the hold of whatever the shadowy mass was.
āThat sir,ā she spat out the first word with such venom to her tone that Batman almost flinched, āis our emotional support entity of questionable moral standing.ā
#dp x dc#dc x dp#dpxdc#dcxdp#Danny phantom x dc#Danny phantom#dc#Batman#nightwing#red hood#red robin#oracle#agent a#spoiler#paulina sanchez#Kwan#bruce wayne#dick grayson#Jason Todd#tim drake#alfred pennyworth#stephanie brown#barbara gordon#originally I was going to make it Kwan and Val#but then I thought Paulina would be funnier to have glaring Batman down#I wasnāt sure what to do for dialogue though#sorry about that#and once again Iām not really sure how to continue this or what I was going for#is the shadow entity Danny? Ellie? Dan? someone else?#who knows
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Im back and with an doodle dump and, even more brainrot. This time featuring: Batman Comics because Gotham does not even have an ounce of happiness in the entire city and i love seeing characters have the worst fate imaginable ā¤ļø
Also made an oc, who may or may not be a mishmash of Marvel (mostly) and DC inspo (you'll never get the answer out of me)
#me x actually fucked up narratives that force characters to grow and mature way too quickly#dcu#dc comics#batman#batfamily#jason todd#dick grayson#tim drake#red robin#nightwing#red hood#dc robin#original character
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Inspired by the last post I reblogged,
Jason, sweating, thinking this one used to be red robin: uh. Um. Shit. Uh. Congrats on your transition.
Cass, a trans girl: [thank you]
#cassandra cain#the black bat#batgirl#cass#jason todd#red hood#batfam#tim drake#jason#red robin#boy wonder original
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Forst drawing of him yayayayayya he's so pookie
#batman#damian wayne#batfam#jason todd#artwork#art#digital illustration#digital art#illustration#artists on tumblr#small artist#original art#tumblr fyp#fyp#explore#the boy wonder#robin#red hood#dc comics
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The Robin Boys !! šā¤ļøš§”š
#the original gif was too big for tumblr and i had to do some antics to get it here so the quality is awful#dc#batman#nightwing#red hood#red robin#robin#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#damian wayne#gif#chibi#animation#aj art#so many tags LOL
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actually i think they should do stupid things together sometimes, i also fully embraced the fact that none of them have any fashion sense
#taking a break from drawing angst so i can get energy to draw more angst#robin#nightwing#red robin#red hood#damian wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#batman#dc comics#my art#this is obv a yotsuba ref but there were only 3 people in the original and i shit u not#i spent 10 minutes looking at it trying to figure out which guy to take out#turns out didnt work i love them all too much#this is the style i use when i just cannot deal with figuring faces out btw#ladies. gentlemen. you have eaten well.
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Cass: *recording*
Steph, holding microphone: Who do you prefer Bruce be with, Selina or Talia?
Dick: Selina.
Jason: They're both too good for him.
Tim: Selina has threatened to kick my ass, but the guys Talia raised have kicked my ass. Selina also brings Bruce more work-life balance.
Tim: Mostly I just want Bruce to stay out of my love life.
Steph: Real.
Duke: Jefferson Pierce, so he'll stay away from my mom.
Dick: We can do that? In that case, Clark.
Steph: What about you, Damian?
Damian: Tt. Either way he'll be obnoxious.
Jason: Damian knows what's up.
#dc comics#batfam#batkids#batfamily#character dialogue#cassandra cain#stephanie brown#batgirl#batgirls#dick grayson#nightwing#jason todd#red hood#tim drake#red robin#duke thomas#the signal#batsiblings#ships#batcat#brutalia#bruce wayne#batman#selina kyle#catwoman#talia al ghul#funny#original writing#damian wayne#robin
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Damian:
Tim:
Damian:
Tim:
Damian: ... *opens his arms*
Tim:
Tim: *sighs*
Tim: *helps Damian up to get to a tall shelf*
Damian, now down: *hasitates*... Thanks *leaves*
Dick: I don't know if I should be mad that you helped him get something Alfred has forbidden or happy you two had such a nice interaction for once
Jason, pinching his arm repeatedly: Talk for yourself, that felt surreal to me
#dc#tim drake#jason todd#batman#batfam#dick grayson#robin#damian wayne#batfamily#nightwing#red hood#red robin#batkids#incorrect batfamily quotes#batfam incorrect quotes#source: original
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Dick stared at the ceiling fan. It spun, slowly but surely turning, ever ignorant of the world around it. It spun, regardless of the ribbon tied on the third blade, regardless of the breeze blowing in the window, regardless of the winter chill almost making his breath visible. The ceiling fan spun and the world spun and Dick couldnāt comprehend it.
The front door opened. Footsteps pattered into the hallway, past the kitchen and into the living room where he was laying on the floor and staring at the ceiling fan. The footsteps stopped for just a minute, before walking over to the window and sliding it shut. The lock clicked into place and a hand reached up to turn off the fan. Dick waited until it ceased any and all motion before tearing his eyes away from it.
āHave you eaten?ā Tim asked.
Dick pried his mouth open, ignoring the awful taste that spoke of dehydration, āIā¦ā
Tim waited a minute before accepting that was all he would get in response. He nodded, turned around and walked out of view. Dick watched him go with a pit in his stomach. A fourteen year old shouldnāt have to do the things him and Bruce made Tim do. Tim was too good. Too young. Too innocent. Except he wasnāt innocent because Bruce was breaking him and Dick was letting him and they were poisonous vines, weaving their way into Timās life, sucking the life out of him. Just like they did with Barbara. Just like they did with Jason. God, Jason. His baby brother, who was scared and suffering and died, all without Dick knowing.
āDick,ā Tim nudged him with a foot. Dick blinked, registering the water bottle and microwaved food in Timās hands. When had he had time to do that? Dick blinked again and he was sitting on the couch, food on his lap and opened water bottle in his hand.
Tim handed him the lid and a fork. āDrink and eat.ā
Dick mechanically took a bite. Then another. Then a sip of water. He turned to look at Tim. His eyes were clouded and bruised, with his lip sporting a bloody cut that made Dick want to cry.
āBruce?ā Dick asked, voice raspy.
āLocked in the cave.ā
Dick hummed, leaning over to bump his shoulder against Timās. He pressed his lips into the side of Timās head in the mockery of a kiss, trying not to remember doing the same thing to another little brother.
āThank you. Iām sorry.ā
Tim ducked a little to slide into place perfectly cuddled up against Dickās side. āāS okay. Itās always hard on the anniversary.ā
Dickās eyes watered. āItās not okay, baby bird. You shouldnāt beā¦ā looking after two grown men just because they canāt get their crap together.
āIām sorry,ā Dick said again.
Tim pressed closer. āOkay.ā
Dick closed his eyes and thought absolutely nothing was okay.
#dick Grayson#Tim drake#robin!tim#nightwing#post Jasonās death#pre red hood#dc robin#dc#batbros#batbrothers#bat brothers#batfamily#batman#batfam#angst#death anniversary#dick and tim#dc tim drake#fanfic writing#fic writing#fanfic#fanfiction#dc fanfic#fanfic excerpt#original work#dc prompt#dcu#dc universe#creative writing#dc comics
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Jason Attacking Tim at Titans Tower
Fanon vs Canon
We've all seen the versions in fanfiction but I'm not so sure everyone's seen the original so if you're one of those batfam fans who doesn't want to read the comics (regardless of reasons) but you are curious about how it actually went this is for you.
What I'm addressing:
What does Jason actually say to Tim during the attack?
Did Jason drug all the other Titans?
Did Jason really wear a Robin costume?
Did Jason slit Tim's throat or call him replacement?
Did Jason actually break Tim's bo staff?
Was Tim crying or scared?
Did Jason write a message on the wall in Tim's blood?
Did Jason's eyes glow green?/Did he follow pit rage mechanics?
Panels and details below. This is a LONG one.
What did Jason actually say to Tim during the attack?
Dialogue in fanfiction during the Titans Tower attack varies based on what kind of fic you're reading but usually its either 'time to clip Replacement's wings' if its staying a beatdown whump 'or oh no precious lil bby why is no one watching you' if its an accidental child acquisition. Not judging either option, but this ain't about them its about the real shit.
Look at these opening lines:
Hey, Tim. I was here first.You're the Red Hood. You've been cleaning up Gotham the easy way. Easy? What do you know about easy, Tim? You had a father that looked after you. You went to a private school, right? You slept in a bed. I slept on the streets, I lived in the alleyways in Gotham. Trying to survive. Until Bruce took me in. I trained as hard as I could. I did whatever he asked. . . at least at first. But it didn't matter. They said I wasn't tough enough to be robin. But today, they say you are. Show me, Tim. Show me what you have that I didn't.
Jason really puts himself out there in all of his dialogue in this encounter, the struggle of having to fight for anything and everything he got in life, even the things that came to everyone else for free, and then being told he wasn't even good enough for the things he fought for.
There's a trope in fanfics that if Jason knew Tim stalked Batman and forced his way into being Robin that it would change how Jason felt about the situation but that's even addressed in this comic:
You were a kid, worried about how Batman was spiraling down into darkness. You spent weeks tracking the dark knight. Solving a mystery no one else could. You discovered who he was behind that mask. Millionaire Bruce Wayne. You were so pleased with yourself, I'm sure that you forgot who you were really dealing with. I know Bruce Wayne. And let me tell you, Tim if someone was trying to find out who Batman really was. If someone was stalking him for weeks. He'd know about it. You can't be that good. I am. He let you find him. And I bet he said the same thing to you as he did to me, didn't he? That you had a talent to make a difference in Gotham. That he needed someone he could trust in war on crime. That you were one of a kind. The light to his darkness. Robin, the Boy Wonder.
Tim saying 'I am' is really such a moment that doesn't come through in text because he is right that he really did do that but I also completely understand why Jason wouldn't believe it.
TBH my favorite part is how done Tim honestly sounds with Jason thoughout all his trauma dumping. Like imagine a grown man who used to work the same part time job as you breaking into your house, dressing up in your work uniform, ranting about how much the job ruined his life while he beats your ass??? God, and he probably had to write a fucking report about it after. RIP Timmy.
What do you want? Do you want to be Robin again? Is that it? You... want to take it away from me? Why in the hell would I ever want that? Don't you get it? When I died no one cared! No one remembered me. Are you completely insane? No one could forget you. I've spent my entire career wearing this mask under your shadow. I had to convince Batman to let me try this. All because he'll never stop blaming himself for what happened to you. You ask me, that's the only reason he hasn't taken you down. He's holding back. But me? No freakin' way. That's the Robin I wanted to see. Still. You do realize the whole idea of training a teenager to fight against something he'll never eradicate is a mistake. It didn't even surprise anyone when I died. When I failed. I failed-- but I'm still beating you. Do you think you're that good now?! Do you really, Tim? Yes.
Tim bashing Jason across the face as he says 'no freakin' way'? *chefs kiss*
Jason drugging the other Titans to knock them out?
Little bit true, Kory was actually just already away from the tower and BB and Cyborg were about to bounce because of the drama going on with Donna's return but Jason like super tazes them and then drugs Raven who he thought already went through enough shit without him knocking her out violently.
Note: Jason says in the text here that he never rolled with Cyborg or BB but like he actually did in some comics so?? The continuity is lie I guess idk.
Did he show up in Red Hood gear or a Robin costume?
Both tbh but he spent most of the time in the Robin costume but bro actually made a stripper rip away version of his Red Hood gear so he could dramatically reveal the Robin costume underneath. I can't believe no one ever includes that in their fics its so fucking funny.
Does he call Tim 'replacement' or slit his throat?
No, this came from a Batman comic with Hush not Teen Titans. That incident takes place in a graveyard not Titans Tower and he calls Tim pretender not replacement.
Does Jason break Tim's staff?
Tragically, no. The bo staff snap would have been iconic. Instead he just takes Tim's staff and beats Tim up with it and breaks stuff. BUT!! He uses it to bust a statue in the TITANS MEMORIAL ROOM which is a place in Titans Tower just for having statues of dead previous titans and Jason is rightfully pissed he didn't get one. Like Tim is correct in saying no one forgot him still but like I would be hurt too if all my friends made cool statues of friends that died and then just left my zombie ass out, like wtf.
Note: I am seriously losing my shit that I have never seen someone bring up the memorial room in a fanfic. That is so much angst material. š
Tim crying/ being scared?
Hell no. He's a fucking Robin you know he's being a sassy boy the whole time, even towards the end when he's about done he's still saying he's her and I love Tim for that.
Note: There are a few different times where Tim does a flippy Robin move and then Jason just fucking copies it like flexing that he can do it too, and its just so petty and stupid he's trying so hard to be better than an actual child. šI get why in the context of the situation but its still so ridiculous.
Message on the wall in Tim's blood?
TBH I really don't know for sure on this one?? Like its implied that he did but Tim isn't bleeding all that much throughout this beatdown and like we don't see Jason do it just the Titans reacting to seeing it after. It could be Tim's blood, it could be red paint, and it could even be that Jason packed an actual bucket of blood to bring with him to write a message with after he finished. TBH the world is your oyster on this one.
Note: If anyone can find another comic where this event was brought up where they actually clarify it was Tim's blood hmu and I'll update this but I couldn't find any.
Pit rage/ glowing green eyes?
Fanon only at this point in the comics. Jason is seems to be himself and even thinks Tim and his friends are pretty cool at the end, and he's just like reflecting on if he had good friends if he would have turned out better as he leaves.
#tim drake#jason todd#red hood#robin dc#teen titans#comic panels#jason and tim#teen titans 2003#dc comics#panels are from teen titans (2003) issue 29#i would never tell anyone they have to read comics but i do think seeing the original scene of fanon favs is good#not because you need to follow them but because its good to know what you're taking inspo from#jason attacking tim at titans tower#LONG POST
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