#qpurgatory neg

[cringesnail]

Idk if they'll ever make more purgatories but if they do I hope they'll balance things out because this is truly fun to watch but sometimes i wonder if all the frustration is worth it

[thecoddaughter]

I wish everything was a little more clear about what is canon lore and what isn’t because everything going on. It’s just a lil overwhelming and kinda annoying. I know it’s just a game and I may be thinking about it too much, but it has been kinda annoying this week.

The kidnappings and the red sky on the main server then being like “but this isn’t canon.”

The eye creatures currently on the main server and the Luffy plotline.

The P2 map being the same as the last one and having stuff leftover from the last one.

THE SIGNS! There are signs implying that the missing members are/were on the P2 island.

[oddlyzephyrous]

people who obviously don't watch badboyhalo don't be insanely biased against him and refuse to give him the benefit of the doubt and always assume negative intent from his actions for one second challenge level IMPOSSIBLE.

just saw ppl saying "-10000 RP" and "i can't believe bbh ditched his team for the christmas event" like. dude. you obviously do not watch him and don't understand why he does anything he does and you have a bias against him so you read everything he does as negative. like.

1-really really wanted to do the christmas event but supported his whole team through the big event.

2-got on early so it makes sense for him to conserve time. He has faith in his team to survive and plans to get back on later.

3-WILL NOT STOP GUSHING ABOUT HOW PROUD HE IS OF HIS TEAM AND HOW COOL THEY ARE.

4-has established canon-plausible reasons that his character in QSMP and his character in Purgatory 2 both exist and that they share knowledge to a degree. 1/3 of qBBH, the more violent and brutal side, is in Purgatory. the other 2/3 is on Quesadilla. There are overlaps in their knowledge.

Like I get you guys don't know all of his lore but seriously. Maybe try not assuming every thing bbh does has negative intent. Just admit you don't like him and move on, stop trying to justify it with things you know nothing about.

[etoilesbienne]

My plea to the rest of the qsmp tumblr fandom: Please stop making every piece of content relate back to the first purgatory.

I don't want to be a person who shows up and rains on parades to ruin fun for people, but I think there's a sizeable amount of this community that doesn't really realize how much the first purgatory has affected every less popular character's fanwork. Especially on tumblr, where English is the lingua franca and almost everyone communicates in it. You have to understand most characters on qsmp were not exactly the same characterization wise on quesadilla island than they were on purgatory. Not that they aren't the same characters, it's just people seem to be prioritizing only those purgatory characterizations over every other moment on the server, while also not looking and trying to understand these characters outside of purgatory at all.

Purgatory 2 got hit with it too, like I don't think I saw a single team in P2 that didn't get extensive comparisons to any of the P1 teams. Like I get it, media parallels, that's cool! It's just tiring when you look at any character's tag or a P2 team's tag that is less popular in the English fandom and 95% of it is just to do with purgatory one, or wanting them to do something from purgatory one, or saying how they should join a purgatory one team. I can't wait until we can move on to a new arc in the server that involves all the characters, but until then, please be aware that almost all of the non-English characters have been almost, like, mostly only receiving content about purgatory one still. It's a disservice to the characters and the CC behind them, they become side characters to streamers who are more popular in English fandom.

I don't think anyone's, like, a bad person for liking purgatory or enjoying purgatory content, nor is any one team worse than the other or deserves any hate, just understand it's a struggle for anyone who likes these less popular characters to find non-purgatory one based content. Let these characters be their own individuals instead of extensions of other characters. :(

[dappersautismcreature]

ik a lot of yall like things to be evenly laid out and known but im sorry the lore right now is wavy and weird and gray. and that is ok, you will survive i promise.

not everything has to make sense, there will be mistakes, retcons, imperfections, jokes that get turned into canon, etc. its a story made by HUMANS, not everything is written down and remembered and edited like a book or script. this is rp.

if you are mad at bad for "messing with canon" consider that the admins gave him permission, he is trying to continue lore that has been put on pause like three times by now, and create fun content while helping gather cookies so eggs DONT DIE

gray area, it doesnt have to make sense, you dont have to connect everything to purely fiction or purely out of character. i promise you it doesnt, its not that important, mistakes can be made, things can be weird. this isnt a purely serious all intensive highly edited tv show, its a roleplay with like 30+ people all with pcs with individual lore.

calm the fuck down. yall are acting like this is the Final Sin. its just,, content,, you will be ok, the story will be ok, THEYRE ADULTS they can sort out their own issues if a cc doesnt like another cc including something in canon.

[lionheartedmusings]

i'm gonna be honest, with one less member and against red and green, the only feasible strategy for the raccoons is to play like this. like otherwise, they have no fucking shot and they know it. like objectively if they wanted people to be pvp inclined and not strat basing decisions, this wasn't the way to arrange the event imo

[swords-of-a-soilder]

I've sleep on it here's my beef

If you wanna log in to participate in a event that fine, I get for some CC's purgatory 2 isn't lore (I mean it clearly is, but some players are choosing not to involve it in their lore.) But when you've made the discussion not to take part in the lore you can't ask about it on screen.

I literally got confused when someone told me bad had a reason and to check there lastest reblog, thinking the book gave them the reason and apologising, this fully left me thinking that the residents where told to return home until I was discussing with someone else and realized I fully misread that (I need to wear my glasses more TBh)

But this play apart of the problem because what I except was a lore reason and I went looking for it, just to find out later there is no lore reason bad just calls himself vactionbadboy halo when he wants to log in.

Look I get playing purgatory for fun, I get wanting to log in to see your friends, Tubbo did it, and Pac did it; but the difference with them being they made up a reason to be there (the boat didn't leave) is a completely valid reason.

I can see them going home and then later being drag back to the boat by the incompetent egg Island workers, but jumping back and forth to the island in the middle of purgatory is problematic.

If you don't want to take part in the lore then don't, don't ask questions about what's happening lore wise (on stream he can always inquire in dms ) , don't do things on the Island that messes with other people's lore or breaks the immersion make it easy for the actual people who care about the lore; Ie: fan fiction writers, artists, role players (I am all these things) to pretend you're not there!

This sounds dumb but I genuinely, when lore is happening take note of every little the to go "how can I explain this in lore, how could I enhance this in lore" to help with my fan art or fan works.

Genuinely I have a list of game mechanics,(chat, tabs list, death messages) and have written ways to explain them in lore, so you can imagine my annoyance when someone who isn't supposed to be involved ask questions fresh of a lore event.

I think the confusion to add to it is that Phil has been trying to do more improv on the spot right now rp; like leaving cuucurhoo the notice of the eye guy and keeping his webcam on until a big event ( and I love him for that, genuinely I love lore so much because it feeds art and fan fiction)

But I feel like im being taken a fool when someone who isn't technically supposed to be there asks questions about something they're not supposed to be awear of and even bounces of it like they're in lore "yeah it looks like we're going to war with you guys." we who? You're supposed to be Vacation halo, you aren't in purgatory right, if so how did you get home?!

Get what I'm saying? It sucks because everyone else so far seemed to-do A decent job of staying out of lore if they want to visit some committing to not coming back to the island at all (cough* bolas *cough ) .

If you don't wanna take part in the lore don't complicate the already existing lore, it annoynes me greatly.

I don't mind the attenting events so much, it's the fail rping of discussing something you shouldn't know not long after it happened. (Metagaming)

[mangofanarts]

Reminder that Bad has told the others that they can speak their own languages before and he does try to use the translator when he can and reads it but the translator doesn't always pick up what the others are saying. So sometimes Bad can't respond - he's not trying to ignore what other people in his team are saying. I can understand how frustrating it may be from another perspective in the team to see him not responding. Though also try to understand him as well. He does have issues focusing and he's not purposefully trying to ignore his team.

[sharptoothed-gaze]

My eyes are rolling so hard every time I see someone in Bad’s chat saying that Goose metagamed based on second hand info,,

Like girlies please stop spreading misinformation. Especially info you heard from another random chatter?? Any past Soulfire enjoyers should know how damn honorable Tubbo is. Mans would rather lose than raid Blue base entirely on meta cords from chat!! That’s not his way!

[sweet-potato-42]

Let’s fucking goooo tuvbo getting hate on Twitter for purgatory now we are back for real /sar

[ultra-raging-ghost]

As much as i love bad being the team leader i do kinda wish theyd chosen one of the bilingual players to co-lead or something, it is a little difficult to lead a team of portuguese people when youre mostly monolingual </3

[thecoddaughter]

I kinda want this to be the last thing I say about this, but then again community is all about conversation.

I’m not intending to be /neg but I will tag it out of courtesy <3

I think my biggest problem with the “creators choose what’s canon for them” is that I am from the TTRPG community. Yes, collaborative world building where the players control their own stories is wonderful and I am currently playing a game like that, however, the DM uses all the overarching information and ties the characters and the world together. Letting the CCs choose what is canon to them gets rid of the sense of cohesive world building.

I’m going to take a specific moment for example. After the time was over for the day a bunch of people were talking in a VC; when saying bye, Bagi and Bad said they were going to go take care of their eggs. Tubbo goes “I should probably take care of Sunny.” CPK, who has watched Tubbo’s videos with Sunny, goes “you can’t do that, you had such a heart wrenching send off.”

Like story wise, these characters were kidnapped tried to escape, but in the back of their heads they knew that the eye guys would do anything to get them there, including teleportation. Fine. Good. Done.

But them even being in Purgatory not being canon is what stumps me now because now that world building structure is cracked. The foundation of information is not sturdy anymore. And it confuses the community and sends us into this big conversation.

As always, I’m open to conversation about these things, on this post or dms. I love RP and lore and world building.

[tsukana]

i hope soulfire so sure in their being the cursed team supported by a noninsignificant portion of fandom destroys red for red to be the cursed team <3

[callmebrutus]

every person complaining about the event errors be my guest log onto the server and do math yourself

oh wait.

[dappersautismcreature]

:| please no more complaining about raccoon dirty tactics, the only way they won a round was with surprise because they are DOWN A PLAYER AND GOING AGAINST THE TOP TWO TEAMS FROM LAST EVENT INCLUDING GREEN PANDAS WHICH IS SLIGHTLY UNBALANCED

[woennix]

im sorry to be so negative like this but i really hope teams use the translator more, the way i saw some teams not even try to speak other languages and just went to english without checking in some members and idk overall helping was very upsetting.

im not gonna name names bc i don't wanna send hate + i only watched part of the vods and maybe they improved overtime, besides i'm hearing this is a general thing on most teams so naming names is overall useless

i'll just say that even as someone who fluently understands english, and could perfectly watch the content, it was so upsetting to see i had to close stream.

i'll just search and skip on some vods tomorrow to avoid having to watch non-english ccs pushed aside, but tbh this shouldn't happen and kind of is against what qsmp is about, i hoped the ccs added would keep that in mind as much as possible while playing, but i see for some teams the excitement overcomes it and they just forgot ab it or smth idk. i get i may be more sensitive than others, but still.