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guckies · 1 year ago
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everytime I see q!bbh trying to claim he’s close to Leo all I remember is when foolish told Leo to pretend to know nothing around others, when he told Leo she needs to protect herself since he won’t be able to, when Leo willingly started to hang around roier and cellbit, to when bad kept saying complex english words around Leo and foolish had to tell him to knock it off and he still didn’t, to when bad tried looking for Leo to take care of her but Leo was already with roier, to bad badmouthing and setting up foolish whenever he could, to
Now bad offering Leo’s room to bagi who leo has never met and who foolish does not fully trust which I think started from bad convincing bagi on her first day (I think) that cellbits castle was foolishs unprompted which sewed seeds of wariness from the get go
Kinda sad that Leo speaking spanish rather than english has made others not look at her as an individual but rather an extension of foolish when she started the hat trends, coloured signs and even item display on the backpack
At this point I’m glad Leo and foolish found people who they could rely on because I’m sick of them constantly being mistreated even when their absent, also just Chayanne Dapper Ramon being treated as not Spanish eggs just cause they’re fluent in english-
((Sorry for the rant, ur post just lit a flame Ive had))
I see I’m influencing the masses now but you’ve pretty much covered everything I feel too. Like Leo is the it girl/egg of the qsmp just no one seems to realise it.
With Bad just offering up Leo’s room, despite the memory loss and other stuff, I genuinely do think that Bad sees Leo as an extension of Foolish than rather being just Leo. Which is so irritating because let the eggs be themselves and not just extension of their parent.
This isn’t to say that Bad doesn’t love Leo but I don’t think he has or will have the same connection with her as he does with the rest of the eggs. Then again I don’t think that Leo will ever trust anyone as much as she does Foolish and her immediate Family.
Also yes I wish the eggs would go back to teaching their parents more Spanish!!! Leolingo is literally one of my favourite things ever and it feels like she’s the only one who does speak spanish now when most of them are bilingual!! Side note - Leo and Roier are the best when it comes to speaking spanish because they will force you to understand, like why should they give up speaking their native language for you and i love them for that!
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isa-ghost · 1 year ago
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wait what do Brasilians say about bbh? im not rlly caught up w qsmp—
He's severely unaware of how a lot of shit he says comes off (it comes off privileged to put it simply). He's also asked Spanish/other Portuguese speakers to ask a Brasilian a question when. All of them fucking speak English just fine.
(Also I want to clarify: in my tags from the post you're referring to, by Brasilians I meant qsmp fans, not the Brasilian ccs)
I have people who follow me who can explain this better and include more details and instances, so maybe keep an eye on the notes of this post.
Also please no one main tag(s) this, I don't want to be swarmed by bbh stans who find this post. They for the life of them cannot handle bbh crit of any kind and I'm trying to just answer anon's question, not start whole ass ✨️ disc horse ✨️
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zetomato · 1 year ago
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The Canon
Listen, I don't mind much stuff, I am a live and let live (for non-deal-breaking stuff) kind of person. I assume people want to do good by default.
So I don't think for a single second what BBH is doing is ill-thought. I do think he genuinely just showed up to see the Christmas event before going back to his team.
Now, the agreed upon thing with Purgatory 2 is "Players chose if they personally want it canon or not", which is what rubs me the wrong way. It makes everyone make their own things which is terrible for both creators and the fandom since everyone is just, watching one thing and holding it as truth.
BBH got very hype about joining the fun and didn't realize that, from an external point of view, q!bbh walked into a moment everyone was having, and not only started dropping Lore, but in front of everyone.
"Players chose if they personally want it canon or not" If he had taken the eggs away to tell them so, I wouldn't be happy about it but I would let it slide. But what he did was suddenly put 4 players, at least 3 of them handling the story of the kidnappings as canon with NO WAY OF KNOWING Q!BBH'S REASONS TO BE THERE in his lore drop. Suddenly, they had to react to someone who, in their eyes, is fully breaking their lore and not in a "I show up just to hang out" but in a "I show up and actively do lore with the eggs in your face"
Was it the goal do do that? Nope. I don't think so.
But it was, from the point of view of the other streamers, extremely rude and uncomfortable.
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thesmpisonfire · 1 year ago
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"I left it at your hands" Bad. You fucking appeared with Baghera at Bagis doorstep without warning. Baghera already appeared cornering Bagi asking about the killings. Bagi didn't had time to think. Bagi just looked at Bad in panic and saw he wasn't there to help her at all. Bagi tried to dance around it and Baghera said "I already know. Just tell me. Thats cowardice. You want the workers dead"
There's wasn't much of a choice. Bagi was cornered. She pulled her scythe to defend her family at one point
And the worst part? Bad is doing it on purpose. He wants to solve this quickly and efficiently bc he wants to continue his own plans. Because else he'll just let Cellbit behind to not be a bother to his biggest plan
And he's dancing around words to not let Bagi see this
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swords-of-a-soilder · 1 year ago
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I've sleep on it here's my beef
If you wanna log in to participate in a event that fine, I get for some CC's purgatory 2 isn't lore (I mean it clearly is, but some players are choosing not to involve it in their lore.) But when you've made the discussion not to take part in the lore you can't ask about it on screen.
I literally got confused when someone told me bad had a reason and to check there lastest reblog, thinking the book gave them the reason and apologising, this fully left me thinking that the residents where told to return home until I was discussing with someone else and realized I fully misread that (I need to wear my glasses more TBh)
But this play apart of the problem because what I except was a lore reason and I went looking for it, just to find out later there is no lore reason bad just calls himself vactionbadboy halo when he wants to log in.
Look I get playing purgatory for fun, I get wanting to log in to see your friends, Tubbo did it, and Pac did it; but the difference with them being they made up a reason to be there (the boat didn't leave) is a completely valid reason.
I can see them going home and then later being drag back to the boat by the incompetent egg Island workers, but jumping back and forth to the island in the middle of purgatory is problematic.
If you don't want to take part in the lore then don't, don't ask questions about what's happening lore wise (on stream he can always inquire in dms ) , don't do things on the Island that messes with other people's lore or breaks the immersion make it easy for the actual people who care about the lore; Ie: fan fiction writers, artists, role players (I am all these things) to pretend you're not there!
This sounds dumb but I genuinely, when lore is happening take note of every little the to go "how can I explain this in lore, how could I enhance this in lore" to help with my fan art or fan works.
Genuinely I have a list of game mechanics,(chat, tabs list, death messages) and have written ways to explain them in lore, so you can imagine my annoyance when someone who isn't supposed to be involved ask questions fresh of a lore event.
I think the confusion to add to it is that Phil has been trying to do more improv on the spot right now rp; like leaving cuucurhoo the notice of the eye guy and keeping his webcam on until a big event ( and I love him for that, genuinely I love lore so much because it feeds art and fan fiction)
But I feel like im being taken a fool when someone who isn't technically supposed to be there asks questions about something they're not supposed to be awear of and even bounces of it like they're in lore "yeah it looks like we're going to war with you guys." we who? You're supposed to be Vacation halo, you aren't in purgatory right, if so how did you get home?!
Get what I'm saying? It sucks because everyone else so far seemed to-do A decent job of staying out of lore if they want to visit some committing to not coming back to the island at all (cough* bolas *cough ) .
If you don't wanna take part in the lore don't complicate the already existing lore, it annoynes me greatly.
I don't mind the attenting events so much, it's the fail rping of discussing something you shouldn't know not long after it happened. (Metagaming)
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bugflies00 · 1 year ago
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im sorry i used to dislike bbh simply cause i found him annoying but that joke pissed me off like idc if you're kidding why are you calling someone "uncultured" for not knowing an english saying when it's not their first language... being the monolingual one in that interaction doesn't strike me as being the most cultured one idk
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wilbursoothatepage · 1 year ago
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I did a bit of research into this because I felt like the explanation that Demons can split themselves into two that everyone was giving about Bad being split into 3rds was very stupid.
Which it is, the only cases in media when demons have been able to split or clones themselves is with magic from that is specific to the universe that any person could do if trained enough or a set of very populated people could do typically in anime. This isn’t all that popular either, it’s not done really at all with demons.
Additionally the type of demon bad has made himself to be, which is a reaper, wouldn’t have this type of magic as it doesn’t relate to what his job would be. Since his job is guiding souls to their resting place.
Yes he had those other versions of himself in his purgatory lore coming back, but they were in a different dimension/his mind space from what I can tell. There is no way that they are living breathing versions of himself with how they acted.
So therefore that explanation is just plain weird and bad because it would mean he is just making up ways for himself to be everywhere at once and putting weird schematics that only work for him. He is basically trying to play god and make himself op, which doesn’t make any sense for the universe that is qsmp. It’s like he’s a kid telling you that you can’t have a certain mermaid power because he already has them all.
Also yeah the characters on qsmp can have fun with their characters and do what they want with them but if you have to give me a 5 page essay on every little thing that one character can do and why then shush. Because why even have the character included if they can literally solve all the problems themself but choose not to because they like pretending to be an oppressed civilian surrounded by actual oppressed civilians.
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dez-wade · 1 year ago
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lmaooooo bad and aypierre are talking about how trustworthy bagi is and it basically amounts to "how well can she be manipulated" and "will she be loyal to bad and not the brazilians" so you know they're gonna go back to their little "bagi is a fed plant" theory when they realize she isn't choosing anyone over the brazilians
I used your ask as an excuse just to ramble about Favela 6
I'm not watching any stream right now, so I have no idea what's going on but if the conversation went down that way, welp Bagi won't betray the Brazilians. She's super paranoid and she's kinda on her own side right now, but even though she doesn't 100% trust them with everything (maybe Pac) she knows she's part of the Favela 6 and she's not pleased with Bad's actions lately.
It will be funny though seeing them suspecting her of being Fed when she just refused a Cucurucho task unlike everyone before. But that's a Brazilian canonical event in QSMP, so I'm used to it lol.
Regardless I always think it's so interesting seeing how different people are, because the Favela 6 are very united and loyal to each other and you don't see that with any other group in QSMP, they have their own small group mostly. And even though each of them might have a different family, a different group of people they hang out with the most, the Brazilians know they also have this unbreakable bond and that they should help each other out when the time comes.
And I guess the rest of the people aren't used to that at all, it's not like the Americans have some unspoken oath of sticking together always, or the French. So they don't understand and think it's something they can just be changed? It would take something REALLY big to break that bond, and so far none of them have done that wrong to the others or each other. Like, if anything they'll just keep getting stronger because the Feds definitely have something against them specifically, and no other people know what it is like. And a lot of them dismiss their suffering too. They can relate to each other's pain. And if they don't stick for themselves, who will?
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louissatturi · 1 year ago
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It’s so funny that the same fandom that was sending hate to a small streamer for her "breaking" badboyhalo's boundaries they sureee love to break the non americans boundaries lol...
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novaknows · 1 year ago
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Ngl every time on the qsmp I get pissed at bad and I go “oh I shouldn’t hate on a creator for a game” but then I remember that bbh supports dream still and I’m reminded that I’m otherwise justified in my dislike of the creator lol
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guckies · 1 year ago
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I went back to watch the moment about Bad bringing up purgatory and really it’s just that everyone is confused and Bad needs to explicitly say if he is canonically on or off the island without some weird loop hole that gives him both lores on the both islands for one character to know.
Now the mini events aren’t always like a lore canon thing but the eggs are in lore majority of the time. This is cause the eggs are lore/rp characters the same way Cucurucho is and the only way they aren’t is when they explicitly say it or the cc says that the info they’re saying is out of rp.
But this is what happened -
Bad brought up first that he saw Tubbo that day to sunny who had been with Fit the entire day. Then Richarylson questioned him saying “Aren’t you meant to not be spiritually projecting rn” and he said “I don’t know what you’re talking about” which is just as confusing as what Richas said to him.
Then the others asked a general question just saying how was it and if he was winning not anything about any of the lore aspects. He then later brought up the quesadilla lore stuff with Phil despite it not really being the time or place, as well as him not supposedly being there to the other characters (specifically Fit and Phil think he’s kidnapped because he hasn’t clarified and they honestly act like they can’t be bothered asking anymore about it which not gonna blame them on) who all think that he is kidnapped because Bad has evaded the question and not given them an explicit answer.
So the eggs, current quesadilla islanders and the viewers are very confused.
Cause none of it make sense and Bad’s “1/3 is in purgatory”(which is the spiritually projecting thing richas is eluding to) is a struggle rp wise too because how is he meant to participate in lore or rp when he’s giving so many mixed signals if he is or isn’t canonically on the island.
Like he’s telling the eggs about their parents when they’re always meant to be in lore, then telling the other islanders that he’s on vacation which implies he’s not doing lore. So then it looks like meta gaming (because the eggs are just being told info randomly without knowing they’re getting told ie like a twitch chat that a streamer reads except eggs can’t really ignore it) from the pov of someone who has no clue if it’s in rp or not especially when it’s told to the eggs who are in rp 24/7. But then even the eggs don’t know if he’s actually there or not so they have to come up with a rp opinion about it and now think he’s lying about their parents because they aren’t meant to know about it really.
Along with this how come he can only just now separate himself in parts like this(yes things are secret but that raises the question how come he didn’t preemptively do this in purgatory 1), how is he getting the info back and forward from each “part” of him, how is it even a different part/version of him if he’s still in the same dimension(cause travelling back and forward from the island defeats the whole purpose of purgatory 1 and he isn’t a slime so how would he be able to make a clones/another version) and then why is he even telling the kids that information when they are separated from their parents which is just going to make them sad(but it is giving the eggs a rp struggle because not all of them are going to know if they are meant to know that info or not).
But really the real question is why does bad have to be involved in both lores and knowing everything. It’s not as if the others are going to keep everything from him and not tell him. Like when has anyone not ever told people about lore that affects everyone, he will be told everything all he has to do is ask. By the time he’s back the photo if the eyed workers will probably still be up as well all he has to do is ask them about it and they’ll give him an answer.
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nikokiri · 1 year ago
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If hating bbh's memory loss is ableist by qsmp tumblr logic, then I'm going to take one for the team cuz holy shit
Why is his memory loss so convenient, when it is to fuck with someone he remembers, when it is to avoid accountability he remembers but anything else???? Nah silly boy can't remember shit
I can't take it anymore
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chirpthingz · 1 year ago
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You don't need to answer this ask, but oh man, you're the first person I've seen here on Tumblr noticing this communication problems on racoon team.
For some reason the only thing I've seen here is people calling team cyan "bbh's harem"
so frustrating lol
i just can't believe other people haven't noticed, or they have noticed and feel uncomfortable talking about it, or they don't know the rest of the team as well as bbh and therefore don't care enough to speak about it. of course they're out here calling team raccoon "bbh's harem," nobody else can get a word in for it to belong to anyone else
and i mean i do get it, bbh is a sweaty player but man you cannot micromanage and then refuse to acknowledge the language barrier
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thesmpisonfire · 1 year ago
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Baghera and Bad biggest hypocrites rn once again
Once again it's two against one
First Tubbo now Bagi
Bagi tried so hard to keep this a secret and protect her family,,
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swords-of-a-soilder · 1 year ago
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The thing that gets me about bads lore rn is that the problems could have been avoided so easily
He wants to chill with the eggs and do the christmas event while participating in purgatory? Reasonable.
Using his vague 3 bads lore to do it and make it canon? Kind of confusing, but not a big deal.
MAKING HIS PURG VERSION SHARE MEMORIES WITH THE QISLAND ONE AND HAVING CANON LORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PURGATORY ON THE MAIN ISLAND?
Now everythings broken, most ppl are lost, and impact is being taken away from other streamers stories.
And for what end? Purg 2 is 5 fucking days can he not wait that long to do lore? The option for the bads to not have the same memory was RIGHT there…
I'm saying, like he could have waited, focus on helping his team since he's a leader, instead he does all of this and just breaks the existing lore
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phocidine · 1 year ago
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I feel like there’s a disconnect between what fans frustrated with Bad’s character want for consquences and what Bad’s fans consider consquences.
(Explanation below)
Bad was self-harming via modded minecraft bird and having concerning lapses of memory and getting hit in the kneecaps every 2 seconds by purgatory and mourning over his children. And now he’s lost his memory and is either dying from a nuke blast or recovering from dying.
So he’s a character that does some shitty stuff, but he’s also kind of rotting away where he stands, so it balances out right? Why do other fans want him to hurt more? How could he even possibly hurt more than he’s already hurting?
This is what a lot of protective Bad fans believe, but it’s not at all what other fans are talking about.
When I say consequences, I don’t mean the consequences of letting himself be vulture food or the consequences of just…existing in purgatory. These are painful but they have nothing to do with his actions towards others, which are the actions that myself and I suspect a lot of other BBH fatigued fans care about. Does everyone remember that whole ordeal where Bad got interrogated by Tubbo about Ron? Bad would be eaten by soul vultures whether he tortured Ron or not, but Tubbo beefing with him only happened because of what he did to Ron. THAT is a consequence.
And yeah, I do think Bad deserves consequences. Not for stupid shit like furniture stealing, and not for anything that happened in purgatory because I couldn’t watch most of purgatory and I would rather slam my head into a wall than talk about purgatory discourse again, but for the cold and calculating way he treated all of his friends for his big scheme after the Acceptance stream onwards.
I’m going to guess from the fact that this behavior started at the same time as Bad’s rapid mental health decline that we as an audience are not supposed to consider Bad treating everyone around him like ends to the means of his mysterious plan as a good thing, or a neutral character trait.
It might be easy to brush off Bad’s behavior as just angst not really worth remembering, but…I was invested in Baghera’s backstory and how it intertwined with the Ron storyline. I was invested in her and Bad’s friendship. I don’t want to just brush off the fact that Baghera drug herself through the mud to protect Bad and he ignored her in return. Situations like this have happened several times. Bad acts like an asshole to people he cares about because he has a one track mind to save the eggs, and then anyone who would like to see the pain or indignity he caused those other characters have some kind of follow up just don’t get it.
I’ve heard some confusion over why people want consequences from Bad when other characters have done way worse, but the thing is those characters DO get consequences.
Cellbit can’t embrace his cannibal persona and be friends with Pac at the same time. He’s messing up his relationship with his sister. He’s pitting Fit and Bagi against him because they care about the two people he has hurt. The Feds are looking for the worker killer right now and who knows what they plan to do to him. Cellbit does shitty things, and whether not you think he’s justified in any of it, he is suffering as a DIRECT consequence.
Slimecicle didn’t go on a murder spree against the eggs and then everyone just moved on and forgot about it. He was crying and screaming about Flippa throughout the entire thing, and at the end of the stream he has a very sincere “what am I doing?” moment and admits to himself that she’s gone and he needs to accept it. He showed regret, and then he went down and apologized to everyone and said it wouldn’t happen again (although admittedly he did treat the apology part like a bit). This example is kind of shaky because killing eggs was still less of a huge deal back then, but I still wanted to bring it up because consequences don’t always have to be punishments, they can be moments of humility and regret, too. Bad is in despair because of the missing eggs, but it would be nice to see him have some despair over how disconnected he might feel to his loved ones specifically because of the effects of his downward spiral. Or to have him show some regret for how he acted, whether he ends up apologizing or not. I doubt this will happen, it doesn’t really seem like ccBad’s style, but it is an option.
The eggs are back now so Bad will probably go back to being a slightly obnoxious babysitter with trust issues and the frustration of him being able to throw people under the bus for his own needs and getting away with it constantly will hopefully fade away. I do like Bad’s character after all, I just also like the characters that interact with him and feel like they deserve better in the narrative.
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