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Punishment is a violence in itself.
The thing is, until you get past the mindset of "justice=punishment" you will never be able to create lasting change. We have actual proof that punitive justice creates more crime and makes criminals more violent. We have actual proof that rehabilitation reduces crime and recidivism. But some of y'all are so stuck on this idea that the wrongdoer must be punished for justice to be done that you will choose sating your need for revenge over actually moving toward a better world every time. And that's sad!
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Doing Time for Serious Crime
You are not Bad waiting to be Evil, but Evil waiting to be Free You have made a deal with the Devil and it consumes your Spirit, completely You haven’t striven to be Better It has never even crossed your Mind I just Hope they catch You real quick And you spend your Life doing Time © Kait King, 2017
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#kaitking#crime#criminals#hard time#jail#judge#lockup#prison#punishment#punitive#retribution#somethingIwrote
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Nuns who had participated in 'intimacy' (Constantine V's word) were ordered a brief penance of a diet of bread and water. This punitive diet was to be extended for 40 days if one woman 'rode' another, but there was no suggestion that the nuns having sex with other nuns should be beaten.
"Normal Women: 900 Years of Making History" - Philippa Gregory
#book quote#normal women#philippa gregory#nonfiction#8th century#nuns#intimacy#lesbian#pope constantine v#penance#diet#bread#water#punitive#punishment#riding#beaten#constantine v
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More of this for Fox News interviews, please.
👉🏿 https://colorofchange.org/newsaccuracyratings/
👉🏿 https://blog.oup.com/2018/04/crime-news-media-america/
👉🏿 https://aninjusticemag.com/white-shooters-are-most-often-responsible-for-mass-school-shootings-6e7b647b5cce
#politics#lol#fox news#the five#seattle#discomfort ≠ danger#crime#the media is complicit#journalism#punitive justice vs restorative justice
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So I wrote an addition to a post recently talking about punitive justice on Tumblr.
Someone reblogged it, then deleted their reblog and went with reblogging the original post.
I had gone to their blog to see if I'd be interested in following them, so I noticed this when I wouldn't have otherwise.
I wish I could believe they'd disagreed with my point overall. It happens.
But I don't. I believe they reblogged me, then noticed my final point about how Tumblr folks have redefined "Nazi" to be synonymous with "Zionist" and "Zionist" to mean "Jew".
And, based on their other posts on the current war, they realized they'd be ejected from the terrorism fandom if they publicly agreed that Jews have been badly treated on Tumblr in the last year.
#jumblr#antisemitism#leftist antisemitism#antisemitism on tumblr#and so it goes#is-the-fire-real original#punitive justice#also: way to engage in the exact kind of behavior castigated by the OP you happily reblogged
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Opinion I have that I don't see anyone else say:
I think prisoners should be allowed there smart phones and Internet access
I'm against prisons as an institution and it's barbaric that there is such a limited communication you can have with the outside world, dehumanizing people by making them unaware of what's going on in the world
The ability to look up information, see the news, learn about current events, watch pornography, keep up with cultural ideas, communicate with your loved ones, be available for your kid to call whenever, advocate for yourself publicly, and any entertainment are all things I think are important to all humans and should not be restricted
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jamie may i kindly ask for some mcmatt in these trying times.... I fear i miss them
certified Bad Drivers chucky + davo !! spreading the mcmatt agenda :D🤝
#in all fairness to them parallel parking on a busy street is essentially punitive#ethan we get each other. mcmatt#matthew tkachuk#connor mcdavid#florida panthers#edmonton oilers#hockey art#yjart#req!#hockey rpf#hrpf#mcmatt
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“aegon’s mini-speech to larys listing his new ailments and insecurities was designed to humiliate his character” is easily the funniest breed of finale hate so far. “The guy who gets traumatically castrated as a result of an already extremely traumatic disabling event in every version of this story should never bring it up bc I, the viewer, consider that an insurmountable embarrassment for him and inherently undignified. I’m saying this for disability rights reasons btw.”
#tbh if you think Aegon’s maiming and/or Alicent’s assaults by Viserys and/or Larys were meant as narrative punishment then like#that is a weird punitive worldview that you brought from home! the show is very clearly not doing that!#it goes out of its way to tell you Rook’s Rest and other disasters were futile but devastating acts bc That’s War. Karma is not in the room#hotd#fandomwank#text#also a lot of these posts also consider Aemond existing while naked to have been humiliaring which is so like. bewildering?#did you all get christian homeschooled or something
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dad I finished copying my lines... I will be very good
Papa j’ai terminé de recopier mes lignes… je serai très sage
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Facing the Axolotl
#gods art#bill cipher#the axolotl#postfinale#my art highlights#the horror of confronting deeply buried emotions suddenly brought to the forefront by unconditional love#something something punitive justice is pointless and stupid. bill doesnt know that though#having so much fun with shapes and colors and textures#also related to->#mylongficidea
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Yeah it’s cool and all that Lyanna Mormont and Wylla Manderly are such vocal Stark loyalists. But it’s actually quite important that they share names with two of the most important women in Jon Snow’s life: Lyanna Stark - his mother, and Wylla - his wetnurse and rumored mother in universe. Such stunning loyalty from these two girls who are named after women so important to Jon just tickles all the key parts of my brain. These are the women who gave him life. And it’s even more poignant when we realize that by ADWD, when the girls are declaring their loyalty, Jon is the KiTN who bears the name STARK per Robb’s decree.
#jon snow#asoiaf#valyrianscrolls#lyanna mormont#->#lyanna stark#wylla manderly#<-#wylla the wetnurse#Lyanna couldn’t press her son’s claim and wylla had no power#so little Lyanna and young wylla step in for them#and do what they can with the little power they have#though they may not truly know what it means#I’m sorry but jon is like at the very heart of the gnc - however big or small#the conspiracy by itself is really about love - love the north has for the Starks and esp ned stark#but then we have Jon a product of love - lyanna’s wylla’s and ned’s#and he has been named KING#it’s why a stark comeback can’t be punitive vengeance#it has to be about restorative justice - the return of love to the north where fear and hate once ruled#let stannis do the avenging#but let jon bring love when all is said and done
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Final post on the matter and I'll shut up.
Let's be entirely honest, if it had been any other character getting a massive personality change, everyone would be rioting. Imagine if Grimmjow had shown up depressed af and turned into a punching bag. People would be so fucking mad. But no one gives a fuck about Aizen as a character so I'm pretty done with this. Even if there is a canon reason and hes uber depressed, no one cares about that and the story won't at all give any payoff for it, any redemption, any exploration. If anything, I'm starting to anticipate he will be killed off in the future, maybe Hellarc. I don't really want any part of it, so I'm bugging out and taking a huge step back for my own sake.
Canon is now officially dead to me in every way.
#its always the same with my faves#they get screwed majorly#argue he deserves it but most of the other charas do#sosuke aizen#okay i promise this is my last post about it#i just thought for several hours on the exact depth of bothering#characters being fated to d word while feeling like dying is the worst trope and i cant be anywhere near it#on top of that he will get zero character exploration i guarantee it#i wish hed just came back smug and mean#i need him to have fight in him even when all is lost#aizen#and yeah its not proven yet but this eerie feeling hasnt let up#i was talking to someone irl and they agree with me he will probably be killed off#i just kinda hate punitive justice arguments toward the charas people dislike#big ick
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tbh saying "X fictional thing is problematic and therefore Morally Wrong" and taking it to heart like a purity campaign whose practitioners must be eradicated from this fair earth is obviously pretty stupid, nasty and unhelpful... but to me the whole "you know fictional characters aren't real lol right" type of backlash hangs out roughly in the same philosophical ballpark than "the curtains are blue because they are fucking blue" jokes, and I wouldn't exactly call that progress either
#thoughts#critical media analysis#remember her everyone?#this is her now#feel old yet?#anyway both of these approaches are different shades of anti-intellectualism and I'm sure we can collectively choose to do better#fiction is argumentative inherently! even merely emotionally --it still attempts to convince your brain of something#and I feel like a lot of people don't understand that this is an unescapable part of fiction that can (and should) be unpacked#and its conclusions don't even have to lead to any sort of swift and immediate punitive justice of any kind!!!#wild I know
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Always. Always, always, always.
Take it. Take it.
“The genocidal assault on Gaza is another chapter in the century-long ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians by the Israeli settler colonial project. It is accompanied, as is true for all settler colonial projects, by the theft of natural resources, land, water and the natural gas in the Gaza Marine fields, 20 nautical miles off the coast of Gaza, which could contain up to 1 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. In a world of diminishing resources, especially water in the Middle East, and the dislocations caused by the climate crisis, Gaza is the prelude to a frightening new world order. As democracies wither and die, as economic inequality expands, as poverty and desperation mounts, the global ruling class will increasingly do to us – once we become restive and attempt to rebel – what they are doing to the Palestinians.”
— Chris Hedges
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#xxmovingpicturesxx#gifs#my gifs#gifmaker#nightmare#horror#horror aesthetic#creepy#nightmarish#mochette#frightening#jakov burov#punitive psychiatry
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Why I oppose punitive justice
Time for another anarchist talking point. I actually do not believe in punitive justice. I do not believe in locking people up in jail or making them pay fines as punishment (though asking them to pay for something they broke is alright). And I do even less believe in violence as a form of punishment. Moreover I do believe that the idea of punishment is rooted in a deeply flawed perception of why crimes get commited, as well as a deeply flawed idea of what justice is.
Let me explain.
I will say it again: I actually do believe that humans are in general decent creatures who have evolved to function well in groups. As such it is for the most part not our nature to commit crimes - outside of things were the crime actually is something that should not be illegal in the first place.
Most crimes, that do get committed, have one of the following causes:
It is a crime arrising from a situation committed spontanously without much prior thought.
It is a crime committed out of a desperate situation with the "criminal" not seeing any other way out.
It is a crime committed by someone in a psychologically bad place.
It is a crime committed by a true believer who believed himself to act justly.
One of the first ideas of punitive justice is that it somehow deters people from committing crimes, because they will think to themselves: "I do not want to be punished." But this just ignores the actual reasoning behind those crimes.
Someone who commits crime spontanously (which is a lot of violent crime, actually - most violent crime is not committed by someone who has gone somewhere with a plan to commit violence, but rather arises out of people unable to deal with emotions) does not think about the consequences in the moment.
Someone in a desperate situation often just does not see themselves having a choice. Examples of this can both be that person killing an abusive partner or parent, or the person stealing bread from a supermarket, because they are otherwise going to starve.
Someone who commits crimes because they are psychologically in a bad place (by which I do not even mean the serial killers, though some of them surely also fall under this umbrella - rather I am speaking of people who are prone to violence, have habbits or are forced into crime through addiction and the like) often will not consider possible outcomes either.
And the last kind of person usually tends to believe they are in their right to do whatever. This might be those abusing partners, as well as a ton of people committing hate crimes.
So, yeah... Punishment does not deter people from crimes. We even do have statistics on this showing that often enough in the places with the most harsh punishments there are more crimes getting committed than in the places with softer punishment.
Now, when it comes to the entire idea of justice... Two wrongs do not make a right. Punishing someone does not make the crime undone. Especially given that the punishment often lasts much longer than whatever the actual sentence is, due to societal prejudice against anyone who might have been imprisoned once.
Don't get me wrong: I do think there are some cases where people might need to be somewhere under lockdown, because otherwise they will not stop dealing in violence. The "true believers" often belong under this category. And some people in psychological emergencies, too.
But they should be kept secure for that reason: Security. Not to punish them for their crimes.
Punishment does not make a society safer. At best it satisfies some vengeful lustings of a society. And if we do not (and we cannot) satisfy an individuals lusting for revenge... We should also not do that on a society wide scale. Rather we should focus on making the world safer for everyone.
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