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tarounoden Ā· 2 years ago
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FFXIV - Patch 6.4 Golbez Theory
Alright folks, this is the big one. Iā€™d been holding off on going all-out on this theory for some time, if only because I felt I needed some more concrete evidence to support my point. But with the release of the Patch 6.4 Website, I now feel confident enough to speak up about what I think will be an upcoming twist in Patch 6.4; that being the reveal of Golbezā€™s true identity in Final Fantasy XIV. Spoiler warning for the FFXIV MSQ obviously; and spoilers for Final Fantasy IV as well while weā€™re at it, since itā€™s kinda hard to talk about Golbezā€™s identity without talking about the big twist in the original game.
Anyhow, letā€™s start by recollecting what little bits of information we know about Golbez; based on the cutscenes that he appears in (or is the subject of).
Golbezā€™s Cutscenes
Golbez has appeared directly in 10 cutscenes so far. They are as follows;
1. 6.1 A Brother's' Grief (Post-quest cutscene) 2. 6.2 Where Everything Begins (Echo flashback after instance) 3. 6.2 Nowhere to Run (Cutscene after walking segment) 4. 6.2 Buried Memory (Post-quest cutscene) 5. 6.2 Shadowed Pasts (Scarmiglione 2) 6. 6.2 Shadowed Pasts (Barbariccia 2) 7. 6.3 Desires Untold (Echo flashback after trial) 8. 6.3 Gods Revel, Lands Tremble (Post-quest cutscene) 9. 6.3 Shadowed Pasts Once More (Cagnazzo 2) 10. 6.3 Shadowed Pasts Once More (Rubicante 2)
Beyond these cutscenes, however, itā€™s also worth nothing that the scene of our conversation with Rubicante after #7 is massively important; as this scene directly states Golbez is hiding a secret desire beyond that of his planned crusade. Iā€™ve labelled this one under the heading of ā€œX. 6.3ā€³.
Many of these cutscenes are hiding small hints that imply Golbez may be much more than he seems; and that his true identity may not be what some may initially assume. Letā€™s review.
1. 6.1 A Brother's' Grief (Post-quest cutscene) Our introduction to Golbez. He warps into the room with a wave of shadow engulfing him, and clutches his right fist, before doing a dramatic cape twirl leading with his left-hand.
Whilst itā€™s a small detail, I should note that in Dissidia, Golbez had a similar cape-flick in his fight intros; except he led with his right-hand there instead. This ties into another detail that I noticed in a later cutscene...
2. 6.2 Where Everything Begins (Echo flashback after instance) Golbez is named here, and whilst he hints about having other plans for Azdaja, this scene doesn't seem to be hiding much beyond what it tells us directly.
3. 6.2 Nowhere to Run (Cutscene after walking segment) Interestingly, despite his fears of a memoriate interfering in his plans, the patch 6.4 artwork seems to depict a memoria crystal by Golbez's side. Could Golbez be a memoriate himself? Unless he's half-voidsent (or even completely human) like Zero, he shouldn't have been able to retain that ability following the flood of darkness.
Golbez being (or having once been) a memoriate would also have interesting implications for his past. Given the ongoing theory that the power to wield memoria was a ā€œblessingā€ granted by the Ascians, and with us later learning that Golbez has spoken to Ascians in his past, could it be that Golbez recieved some of his power from the Ascians directly? After all, the original Golbezā€™s famous twist was that he had been possesed by a greater evil; a greater evil associated with the moon (much like how the Ascianā€™s are associated with Zodiark and the moon by extension).
4. 6.2 Buried Memory (Post-quest cutscene)
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"The prison of passivity is an obstacle to my cause. And so you must fall. What irony that the blessed damned should set us free!"
The line and scene that started many an MSQ theory. We all know it; that still image of Golbez striking down a robed figure that resembles the Watcher, foreshadowing the reveal of Golbez's headquarters, and furthermore the means by which he could achieve his goals. And yet, what if I told you there were two small details in this image that I haven't seen others note up to this point?
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For one, Golbez's sword. Golbez is clearly wielding a Moonward Longsword here. The Moonward Longsword owes its design to the sword Cecil is depicted wielding in several pieces of official artwork for Final Fantasy IV; including several Amano artworks. See the above comparison; top left being (FFXIV) Golbezā€™s sword, top right being the Moonward Longsword, and the bottom being Cecilā€™s sword from the Amano art.
Secondly, Golbez is wielding the sword in his right-hand. Whilst this may be a superfluous detail, it should be noted that in his past appearances across the Final Fantasy series, Golbez has historically been a left-hander. Combined with Golbez using his left-hand for his cape flick instead of his right, I suspect that, for one reason or another, Golbezā€™s dominant hands have been deliberately mirrored for his FFXIV incarnation.
I should also note that Golbez is seen holding a different sword (alongside his Shadow Dragon) in the Patch Art for Patch 6.4. However even then, his sword seems to owe a few design queues from Cecilā€™s sword; with a grooved handle, a golden orb near the crossguard, and a blade that widens just after the crossguard before tapering off further down the edge. Interestingly, the crossguard on Golbezā€™s new sword is inverted, pointing towards the pommel rather than the tip of the blade. Finally, I should also note that Golbez is, once again, holding this sword in his right hand.
5. 6.2 Shadowed Pasts (Scarmiglione 2, Cutscene 2 in Unending Journey) Golbez's aether is described as "overwhelming" by Scarmiglione. It is unclear if Golbez has already feasted upon some of Azdaja's aether at this point (though it is possible). And if Golbezā€™s ā€œoverwhelmingā€ aether didnā€™t come from Azdaja, then where did it come from? I have multiple theories. One possible source could be, as raised earlier, power recieved from Ascians. But thereā€™s another possibility that may tie into Golbezā€™s supposed secret identity...
6. 6.2 Shadowed Pasts (Barbariccia 2, Cutscene 4 in Unending Journey) No notable details here.
7. 6.3 Desires Untold (Echo flashback after trial) Golbez reveals that he has, at some point, spoken to Ascians. In the French translation, Golbez uses the gendered-term "Ascianne" here, implying the Ascian he spoke with identified as a woman. Ergo, it is highly likely that the Ascian he spoke with was one we know was highly involved in their efforts on the Thirteenth; Igeyorhm.
We also finally confirm Golbez's goal; to invade and conquer the Source. And yet...
X. 6.3 Desires Untold (Cutscene after echo flasback, cutscene 6 in Unending Journey) Notably, after the echo flashback, Rubicante states that Golbez has a goal seperate to that of his plan to open a gateway to the Source. Quote;
"And perhaps your own will resonate with his...and draw forth that singular jewel which abides deep within his heart. A desire which lies beyond his quest to free us from our purgatory. A desire...all his own..."
We arenā€™t directly informed of what that desire is- However, I believe that itā€™s already been hinted at across the patches.
8. 6.3 Gods Revel, Lands Tremble (Post-quest cutscene) "The end to life on that star. And the end to my suffering..."
An interesting phrase, that. One that could have multiple meanings; as heā€™s gazing up at the 13th reflection of Etheirys as he says this line, one could probably assume that ā€œthat starā€ is the 13th reflection.
When Golbez says this, does he mean ā€œlifeā€ as in living, and his plan to invade the source, ergo no longer having to ā€œliveā€ on the 13th? Is he speaking of his desire to escape the endless life of the 13th? Or is he perhaps being more cold; expressing a desire to end all life on the 13th reflection entirely? Could this darker interpretation be a hint as to Golbezā€™s true desires?
9. 6.3 Shadowed Pasts Once More (Cagnazzo 2) (Cutscene 2 in the Unending Journey)
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Golbez defends himself from Cagnazzo's attack using a magical barrier that closely resembles Collective Unconcious. Leveva in the Astrologian quests describes the skill as;
"Aether is the building block of all that surrounds us, meaning that everything is connected. Someone closely attuned with that aether can, in a sense, link themselves with others, feeling their joy, feeling their pain. Scholars of the soul call this empathy. Crystal-gazers and card-readers call it the wheel of fortune. We astrologians call it collective unconsciousness."
Prior to its formal introduction as an Astrologian skill, Y'shtola employed a magical barrier that resembled Collective Unconcious at several points in the MSQ. It's interesting that Golbez is able to use a form of magic typically associated with healers; as several later releases of Final Fantasy IV made Golbez's lack of proficiency in healing magic a critical part of his backstory.
10. 6.3 Shadowed Pasts Once More (Rubicante 2) (Cutscene 4 in Unending Journey) Golbez describes his goals in an odd manner.
"It matters not who I am, but what I seek to do. Join me, and together we shall banish the Darkness and see that the sun rises again."
At this point, however, we would know this isnā€™t completely accurate- Golbez doesnā€™t want to banish the darkess at all; merely free the inhabitants of the void from it by leading them unto the source. Is he just being poetic here? Or does how heā€™s phrased his plans offer insight into his 'desire' that is seperate to his stated goals? After all, Rubicante was seemingly the only archfiend to know of these desires.
Tying into #8, we know that darkness / the astral can have an association with life and growth; as we see in E9ā€²s bramble phases and the like. Could it be that Golbez views the two interchangably? That banishing the darkness means a quest to expunge (the endless) life from the 13th? And could he mean to not only invade the Source, but find some means by which to draw its light (the umbral) back into the 13th to end the endless life that has taken root there?
In Summary
Based on all of the above cutscenes, we can conclude the following;
Golbez has a secret desire beyond his war with The Source.
His dominant hand appears to not be his left hand, but his right.
He wields a sword that is almost identical to Cecilā€™s sword from Amanoā€™s artwork.
His aether is described as ā€œoverwhelmingā€, seemingly prior to the Archfiends being allowed to feast upon Azdajaā€™s aether.
Golbez can use a spell that resembles Collective Unconcious, which is typically associated with Healers.
Heā€™s interacted with Ascians before; furthermore, if he was once a memoriate, then he may have recieved his power directly from them.
He seems to not only start a war with the Source, but also seeks a means by which to banish the darkness from the 13th.Ā 
But what does this all mean? I believe that all of these are the key to the puzzle around Golbezā€™s identity, and from looking at all of them, there is one conclusion I come to in particular;
Golbez is Cecil
ā€œGolbezā€ in Final Fantasy XIV is not Theodore, first son of Kluya and brother to someone named Cecil (as was the case in Final Fantasy IV). Rather, I believe that Golbez in Final Fantasy XIV is Cecil, and for one reason or another, he has adopted a seperate moniker.
ā€œGolbezā€ here lacks quite a few traits of his namesake, whilst seemingly adopting a few subtle traits from whom I believe to be his secret identity. For one, Golbez is seen wielding Cecilā€™s sword (in the form of the Moonward Longsword). Furthermore, unlike his namesake, Golbez is right-handed, much like Cecil has been across his many appearances series-wide.
Furthermore, Golbez is seen casting a spell resembling Collective Unconcious; which is associated with healing magic. His namesake was not able to cast healing magic at all; and that in particular played a notable part in his backstory. Cecil, meanwhile, obtained the ability to cast White Magic in Final Fantasy IV after becoming a Paladin.
Speaking of which, Golbez at multiple points states his desire to ā€œbanish the darknessā€ or see the ā€œsun rise againā€. Whilst they do pertain to his goals, Golbez seemingly holds a strong disdain for the darkness in particular, hinting that he hides a holy nature, and that he perhaps is more associated with the Umbral / Light. ā€œGolbezā€™sā€ secret desire is to return to his past as a heroic Warrior of Light; which is why Rubicante believeā€™s we may hold the key to drawing that desire out of him.
I believe that, come patch 6.4, weā€™ll either get a dramatic reveal of Golbezā€™s true name being Cecil, or perhaps a dramatic unmask that reveals a face resembling Final Fantasy IVā€™s main character beneath his helm.
Cecil, prior to the flood, may have been a heroic memoriate, much like Zero was. Or perhaps he fell to darkness; and it was his fall that tipped the 13th over the edge and triggered the flood of darkness. Furthermore, Cecil may have recieved the power of the memoriate directly from the Ascians themselves, much like how Cecil recieved the power of a Paladin from someone tied to the moon in the original Final Fantasy IV.
Either way, itā€™s hard to say for certain just what Cecilā€™s potential role may be; only that I think itā€™s possible he has a very large part to play.
However, whilst this theory does tie back to most of the collected evidence Iā€™ve presented, thereā€™s one point that I havenā€™t been able to tie to Golbezā€™s secret; that being the source of his seemingly ā€œoverwhelmingā€ strength. But I think there may be another possible theory around Golbezā€™s identity that could answer that.
Or, Golbez is both Theodore and Cecil
Iā€™m taking a mildly Doylist perspective here; a small but noticeable part of Patch 6.2ā€²s plot emphasises the nature of the impacts of voidsent devouring the essence of other voidsent; with Ciriatto demonstrating how voidsent can take on the personality and memories of their pray after he devours Farfarello.
I believe this could be foreshadowing for an upcoming reveal. Goblez, rather than just being either Theodore or Cecil, could instead have been born from one devouring the soul of the other, resulting in a fusion of their abilities, memories, and personalities. Whilst ā€œGolbezā€ seemingly has a lot of Cecilā€™s abilties (using healer magic, a 1-handed sword, and being right-handed), he also demonstrates many of the original Golbezā€™s mannerisms as well as borrows his appearance.
Be that as it may, Rubicanteā€™s comments may not neccesarily be just about a secret desire of ā€œGolbezā€, but rather a hint that we could draw out Cecilā€™s more heroic personality from that of the harsher Theodore; with one side more hopeful of restoring light to the 13th, and the other resigned to invading the Source in search of salvation. In fact, end to Golbezā€™s ā€œsufferingā€ that he may seek is a final death to split the souls of Theodore and Cecil apart; perhaps one has been dealing with the guilt of devouring the soul of the other.
Thus, explaining why Scarmiglione found Golbezā€™s aether so ā€œoverwhelmingā€; Golbez is not just a single void-corrupted soul, but the fusion of a mighty Paladin and (armored-and-sword-wielding) Dark Mage.
Conclusion
Iā€™ll lead my conclusion with a disclaimer; whilst I believe Iā€™ve collected plenty of solid evidence, these theories are by no means guaranteed to be true; and I would not be surprised if Patch 6.4ā€²s MSQ or even the upcoming Patch trailer presents a very different outcome to what I have put together.
However, with the evidence that Iā€™ve gathered up to this point, I donā€™t think itā€™s a coincidence that ā€œGolbezā€ in Final Fantasy XIV seemingly draws a notable amount of inspiration from Cecil instead of his namesake; and I believe that ties into the hinting given to us by Rubicante following the latterā€™s defeat.
In conclusion, I believe, based o nthe presneted evidence, that ā€œGolbezā€ in FFXIV is actually either Cecil Harvey and not named Theodore at all, or perhaps is a fusion of the two brothers that owes inspiration to both of them.
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thewramblingwebcomicreview Ā· 6 months ago
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Where I use the last day of my vacation to spend way too long talking about webcomics. And muse about theories regarding To Catch a Star and sparkle wolves. I also had no idea I'd be writing about In The Lion's Den again so soon. Fjordor and Kargo's embrace bothered me so much in Home.
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paddysnuffles Ā· 1 year ago
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My theory for the Barbie movie
The truth that Oracle Barbie was imparting is that the little kid who plays with Main Barbie and her friends is starting to grow up and will, in the not-too-distant future, find it harder and harder to play make-believe like they used to (which is why real-world things like cold showers and flat feet are creeping into the make-believe world).
I'd like to imagine that the reason Main Barbie is the one being awoken to reality is that she's the kid's favourite Barbie which they will keep as a memento of their childhood.
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gettownsburnmoney Ā· 7 months ago
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i firmly believe that whether or not porter ends up being evil will depend on which is funnier. he's schrƶdinger's villain
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emacrow Ā· 3 months ago
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Kronos, Agent A, and bites marks
Kronos looked a bit skittish and dejected after the sixth Doctor nearly got iced by her baby after he made an unfortunate choice of mumbling words which lead to Batman calling in a favor from the Wayne's to bring in a good doctor that actually can get near both the ancient beings long enough to give a diagnosis.
Incoming Agent A, who was calmly explained the situation as he walked slowly into the containment. Kronos look at him for a moment before a bit of realization flickered in his eyes, as she murmur something.
Batman and the other heroes watches behind the hidden camera screen office, watching as Alfred check Kronos's temperature, painless blood drawn, checking her heart and breathing and gave a clear full body examination to a couple heroes were shocked to see a long horrifyingly yet old looking scar on her stomach area that look like someone dragged something sharp and was stretched a bit wide.
That gave one point to Diana theory of Kronos story being warped dramatically, but the fact of that Zeus did cut opened Kronos's stomach to pull out his siblings pin true.
A couple of more minutes past with alfred carefully examination the baby boy who was a bit squirmish while alfred did a couple of comments obviously praising Kronos whom face flushed a rather colorful red blush turning her head a bit. Alfred did asked and provides Kronos and Her baby much better comfortable Maternal and baby clothes then what they were currently wearing.
By the time alfred came out of the containment cell, alfred's soft gentleman look shifted a bit, before speaking after handing the vials of swirling golden glowing blood.
"Both madam and the child are well, a bit underweight, Ms. Kronos will need headache relief medicine, both her and the child is in need of a very light seasoned meal and drinks to not overwhelmed their senses in which I'll be providing." Alfred told then after handing the written documents forms of the examination. Batman could only grunt a bit, considering he trying not to look back at Alfred's glance considering his armored wrist had a tiny bite marks that actually dented the armor with indents.
"Ms. Kronos did asked what and where is this place as I asked what was the last thing she recalled was falling from Olympic while trying to hide her child but as she spoke, it seem to cause her abdominal pain that seem to be PTSD related." Alfred said to which batman nod knowing that Alfred would never lied to him.
Part 3 << >> Part 5
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an-established-butt-dent Ā· 4 months ago
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"What have they done to you,
Old friend."
Trapped in the fade, Solas comes face to face with the remnant of his spirit.
The Dread Wolf was his wisdom, mirror to his pride. In the wake of the wrathful Evanuris, it too, has succumbed to their taint.
Or, where I'm making wild plot speculations surrounding Solas trapped in the fade. while turning my brainrot into art pieces and gifs. I'M PACING MY ENCLOSURE. Looking for crumbs and scrabs of Veilguard. Please Bioware I'm begging, feed me. šŸ˜­
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tio-trile Ā· 7 months ago
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Anyways, happy Chaos Theory trailer day (inspired by that one image from Veil by Kotteri)
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raine-world Ā· 1 year ago
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When MatPat came on screen I freaked out (in a good way) and got so light headed I missed the entire conversation and almost passed out until he said "But that's just a theory-" which shocked me out of it like a sleeper agent code word
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normanemilioleongoodworlds Ā· 2 years ago
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20 Minutes: Guerre en Ukraine : Moscou dĆ©ment tout Ā« plan de dĆ©stabilisation de la Moldavie Ā»
20 Minutes: Guerre en Ukraine : Moscou dĆ©ment tout Ā« plan de dĆ©stabilisation de la Moldavie Ā».
L'ouest mĆØne sa campagne de communication de guerre tambour battant, Ć  destination des opinions d'occident. Tout est bon pour discrĆ©diter la grande Russie. La guerre est aussi psychologique. On attend les rĆ©action au vitriol du Foreign Office.
Face aux avancƩes de la Russie dans le Dombass, la chute probable de Bakhmut, l'Ukraine en grande difficultƩ, la propagande et ses agences allument un contre feu avec cette affaire Moldave !
Si ce post Ć©chappait a la censure officieuse, chacun conclura ce qu'il doit en conclure.
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lemonsharkgirlfriend Ā· 3 months ago
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everyone's joking about a lesbian love triangle being the focus of rhaenyra/alicent/mysaria's stories in hotd s3 but that will literally be what happens when mysaria acts to uphold and support the image of rhaenyra as queen (or rhaenyra's duty) and alicent is kept prisoner (or a hidden but unavoidable reminder of rhaenyra's love). and so the love triangle will serve to represent rhaenyra's internal conflict between love and duty
#and if you are me and subscribe to the theory that alicent will escape to dragonstone with rhaenyra after the riots in KL#then rhaenyra chooses alicent/love#i think the book page foreshadows this attempt at escape#ā€œtraveling across the narrow to flee a war of dragonsā€#alicent going to dragonstone with rhaenyra would also totally recontextualize rhaenyra selling her crown to pay for passage#rhaenyra abandons this ultimate symbol of her duty for a final chance at happiness with alicent#and then there's the horrible irony of the audience already knowing that aegon ii has taken dragonstone as they sail toward the island#knowing that rhaenyra and alicent could never actually be physically liberated from the system of patriarchal violence they exist in#but by that point they have both mentally liberated themselves from it#rhaenyra selling her crown and alicent finally accepting rhaenyra's offer to run away and totally abandoning duty#and so the love was important and valuable in the sense that they both die understanding that they couldn't change the part they played#but they know now that they had this love that sustained them despite the plotting and scheming and violence#and the love will be forgotten by history but not by them and in that their love will finally be free#crazy actually that they decided to do this shit with a game of thrones prequel#hotd#alicent hightower#hotd spoilers#rhaenicent#rhaenyra targaryen#house of the dragon#also they are having gay sex on the boat to dragonstone i saw it in a vision
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ariemfox Ā· 3 months ago
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so, yeah. um. about that new timeline. i think it'll probably be destroyed by another kugelblitz, lol.
since the umbrella academy saved allison's and lila/diego's kids by transporting them to the new & original timeline, i think the umbrella academy inadvertently caused the grandfather paradox to happen, again.
meaning the new universe would have been annihilated by a kugelblitz, again.
this is because if lila, diego, and allison never existed in this new timeline to give birth to their kids, their kids should not exist in this new timeline.
so much for saving humanity, i guess. āœŒļøā˜‚ļø
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arrimorr Ā· 3 months ago
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Sometimes I genuinely forget what a big mystery "the author of the journals" tm was to the gravity falls fandom. If I had a chance to tell my 9 y.o self that I know who the guy is, kin him, drew a bunch of fanart with him and also ship him with the goddamn bill cipher she would have had an aneurysm
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lunar-wandering Ā· 3 months ago
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the reason Macaque never attends game night
(jumanji doesn't sound like a word anymore after making this)
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jel-jel-jel Ā· 1 year ago
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So no Marina?!?!
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helpimstuckposting Ā· 6 months ago
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Broke: itā€™s desires, not fears
Woke: itā€™s both, thereā€™s more entities than TMA
Bespoke: there were never multiple entities to begin with and the reason all of the entities needed to come together to start the apocalypse is because thereā€™s only One Entity that the avatars canā€™t agree on how to worship correctly
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ace-whovian-neuroscientist Ā· 6 months ago
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next on doctor who: ruby steps on a sidewalk crack. they find her birth mother by searching for people with broken backs
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