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So we don't know really when Clarisse got that spear so I kind of like the headcanon that she got it when she first got to the camp. Like 7 year old Clarisse having nothing from anywhere or anyone, no family at all and then there's Ares who claimed her and immediately armed her. Measuring her height against the spear she can barely hold at first.
This is a super adorable headcanon, and I love it so much omg. Just picturing a tiny Clarisse getting claimed and trying to hold a too big spear is so sweet.
I never really considered Ares giving it to her when she got claimed tbh. For some reason I always thought that it was something that was left for her. Like, when Ares slept with Clarisse’s mom he gave her the spear with instructions to give it to Clarisse when she went to camp. The spear was a sort of reminder of the legacy that she was meant to live up to. A bittersweet promise for more attention if she earned it, I guess?
#percy jackson and the olympians#percy jackson#clarisse pjo#clarisse la rue#ares#ares pjo#ares god of war#the gods#the gods are ambivalent parents at best with a few notable exceptions#pjo#pjo theories#pjo fandom#pjo season 1#pjo tv show
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Something I noticed about Song of Achilles/ Percy Jackson is that when Percy goes in the river styx, Annabeth essentially became his anchor to immortality. Achilles was so powerful because he went in the styx. Didn't know it yet, but he had an anchor to his mortality. Patroclus. That's why he went so mad after Patroclus died, because he had no reason to be rational anymore, no reason to be human anymore. Achilles' rage was kept back by Patroclus, and when he was killed there was nothing stopping achilles from destroying everything in his path.
Thinking about this, imagine what would have happen if Annabeth had died. While she played a big part in stopping Kronos, Percy would have completely lost it. We saw what he was capable of in HoH, and Annabeth was the only thing that stopped him from completely losing control. Percy, at his most powerful, and at his most dangerous. Complete and utter destruction.
#Percy jackson#Song of Achilles#River styx#Pjo theories#SoA theories#achilles and patroclus#Achilles#Annabeth Chase
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Percy’s “crashing a car after annabeth smiles at him” to “blowing up a volcano after annabeth kisses him” pipeline is going to hit hard
#percy jackson#rick riordan#percabeth#pjo fandom#annabeth chase#pjo#heroes of olympus#pjo tv show#pjo tv series#percy jackon and the olympians#percy and grover#annabeth percy jackson#percy series#percy pjo#percy and annabeth#battle of the labyrinth#percy x annabeth#percy jackson theory#percy jackson spoilers#percy jackson show#percy jackson series#percy jackson disney+#pjo series#percy jackson and the olympians#grover underwood#percy jackson tv show
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is blowing up a volcano after ur first kiss couple goals
#AAAAA I AM SO PROUD OF THIS#for reference i NEVER draw backgrounds#i just whipped this straight outta my ass#and it was SUPER FUN#also i colour theoried the hell out of this one#and i did it all fast and loose so it was not stressful i just had a great time#thats just the power of percabeth i think#anyway ive been thinking abt them a lot#especially annabeth....#to this day i really cant think of any other characters that are booksmart with 2 canon learning disabilities#that really meant the world to me when i was first reading this series!!!#also shes just the bestest ever#one of my main gripes with the show was just that i felt annabeth lost a lot of that dimensionality#leah sava jeffries girl u ate that up but im sorry they didnt give u enough to eat#idk maybe thats just me bc i have such an attachment to annabeth#shes really cool guys#percy jackson#annabeth chase#percabeth#pjo#pjo fanart#percabeth fanart#art by cricket
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SPOILER FOR PJ
I’m probably not the first person to figure this out, but it just clicked for me. Percy Jackson never technically made a decision that would be the rise or fall of Olympus on his 16th birthday, he made one the day before. This is because he never actually turned sixteen. He, multiple times, got stuck in places where time was warped, like the lotus casino, and calypso island. He physically, never turned sixteen.
Instead, at the beginning of SoN, where he finds Juno (Hera) he makes the big choice of going into the water into safety or bringing her to Camp Jupiter. Thats roughly 2months after the Battle of Manhattan, as we don’t know how long went by before he went missing. In SoN, he said he’d been on the run for 2 months. If you go and add up the times where he was frozen in time, like calypso and the casino those two are 3 weeks, probably a little over a month including the Labyrinth.
This is a strong hypothetical, but if you went back and added up all the times he was frozen, my hypothesis assumes that they would add ip to, or near the rough two months between SoN and TLO. Don’t quote me on this, this is a stupid theory I’ve thought about before. Also, First post of Tumblr!
#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson#heros of olympus#theory#trials of apollo#pjo hoo toa#pjo series#pjo fandom#pjo spoilers#annabeth chase#nico di angelo#jason grace#leo valdez
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Idk if this is unpopular opinion or not but while Percy is like “fuck this demigod stuff I am retired” I think Nico would be working in the underworld in the future like I just have this vision of him in a mix of modern and ancient greek clothing doing missions for Hades collecting some troublesome souls idk helping with the judgement talking shit with the dead making the playlist for their elevators vibing to tragedy by bee gees he kinda enjoys the demigod stuff even if its hella dangerous or whatever
#its so funny to think like#the group is like in a group trip and its been a while since they all saw each other in person#and Nico NEVER explains anything about himself#not even in their groupchat#and he just appears wearing some sort of chiton with jeans and combat boots a bunch of ancient acessories#and hair in a very ancient greek way sword in hands everbody is a little insane creating theories someone idk maybe leo shouts#OMG WHEN U DECIDED TO BECOME A SMALL GOD#and Will is just crackling in the background#cause Nico is much more of a trainee with a bad pay check#But for the underworld#pjo hoo toa tsats#solangelo
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THE FIRST LAW OF HOLES, or the law of holes, is an adage which states: "if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging". Digging a hole makes it deeper and therefore harder to get out of.
#percy jackson#pjo#web weaving#percy#hole theory#obsessed with how he describes calling the water as a tugging in his gut#its a downward pull into himself#feeling something crack inside his STOMACH#which happens in tartarus which is yk literally a physical descent into the abyss#tartarus's face being a vortex#the sight of tartarus making percy DROP HIS SWORD
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rip Kelli you would have loved Hot To Go
#pjo#riordanverse#titan army#kelli pjo#luke castellan#silena beauregard#chris rodriguez#ethan nakamura#alabaster torrington#alabaster c torrington#alison pjo#< temporary design for her based on the theories for her casting so far#she's staring into your soul cause she doesnt have any character yet#my art#anyways something to break up the catposting lmao
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maybe I have an idea there is a flower called the Flower of Zeus that can supposedly bring someone from the dead and is linked to Damasen's Apparently there's mention of him using that flower so maybe they could bring back Jase with it. from Wikipedia: "Another serpent, a female one, then fetched 'the flower of Zeus' from the woods, which was a painkilling herb.[1] She laid it on the lips of the dead serpent, bringing it to life."
or demigod's blood i remember that in one of Hercule's twelve labor myths, some souls wanted to drink his blood and due to the insane vitality demigod's blood has to be brought to life.
or I'm Delulu and swimming in Egypt.
Hi, I've seen a few (jk I've seen a bunch) of your posts and I was just wondering...
If Jason came back to life, would you be pissed that Rick pulled another Leo, or would you rejoice?
OR would you rather Will and Nico bump into Jason in the middle of the book?
Hi! Firstly, thanks for your interest! Let us dissect this one at a time.
For the first question: well, I'd say "pissed" might be too aggressive. I rarely get outraged when it comes to media content (wrecked yes, but rarely angry). I might not like it - that's like. all the time - but I'd most likely be able to leave it alone just bc I hate to care about what I dislike.
That is to say: should it turn out that Jason pulls a Leo, I think I would be more happy than not.
Of course, it depends a lot on how, exactly, Rick pulls it off.
As I've said, it's all about plot and more importantly, to me, logic. If he makes up another sort-of-the Physician's cure and the story basically goes the same way? I would be extremely disappointed. I love parallels but not replays. I hate it more if it's Jason - who's alr been shat on enough for "not having a personality". I'm throwing hands
In the fortunate event that Rick somehow comes up with a new, unrivaled resurrection method for Jason, though? It'd be really nice because I'm pretty sure 9 out of 10 Jason stans would want another chance for him to live a true life. Bringing him back to life - as of now, would do more good than harm, IMO, and maybe idk give the Jasico fans a reason to buy the book Ig
I'm aware of how difficult it is, also. Said resurrection must not be another Leo replica and still has to bypass Nico's children of Hades thing. I barely know about Greek myths and I have nothing in my mind. Let's just Rick has something in store should he decide to play this card lmao.
About the scenario in which Nico and Will bump into Jason: generally, I have no problem with the idea that Jason would make an appearance again. As mentioned: I'd love to see Jason again - in every shape and size, honestly.
However, there're a few I hope would be addressed should it happen that way:
1/ The fact that Nico didn't even try to contact Jason after his death.
2/ How Jason feels after-death, whether he even wishes to be back, how he feels about his funeral and/or Apollo's promise, sort of, etc...
3/ A clear insight into Nico's grief.
And of course: a thorough and reasonable explanation as to why and/or how Nico and Will bump into Jason.
Do they see him in Tartarus? Then why is Jason in Tartarus when he's died as a hero? How he's coping?
Do they meet him in Elysium? Why does Nico (and Will) come to Elysium in the first place? What does their encounter bring? Does Jason help with the quest?
In short: I'm more of a go-with-the-flow type of writer. Generally, I have no problem if things are set the way they should be and the plot doesn't just. kick its own balls I guess. If Rick can make it make sense and stay away from the cliché, I'm sure everything would be just peachy.
#jason grace#nico di angelo#the sun and the star#nico pjo#pjo hoo toa#trials of apollo#pjo apollo#pjo theories#solangelo#will solace#jason grace headcanon
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Why demigods have certain powers: a theory (long post)
I have this theory that the reason demigods have specific strengths, or display one aspect of their parents powers over others is due in large part to what aspect their godly parent visited their mortal parent in AND how their mortal parent perceived them. TLDR at the end. Idk if this is a common theory, but I’ve never seen it written out before.
Half of this is pretty much so canon, in the way we know that Greek vs Roman demigods are different because they aren’t the same exact gods. The best example of this is Nico vs Hazel, where Nico is a child of Hades, who is the god if the Dead where Hazel is a child of Pluto, the god of the Underworld and Wealth. This affects their powers. We will come back to them.
However, we also know that demigods don’t necessarily inherit all of their parents dominions. For example, Will, Kayla, and Austin are all children of Apollo, but each have very different specialties. Will has power over healing and light, Kayla over archery, and Austin over music. Apollo is god of all three, but they all have very defined areas of interest and talent.
I think what powers come to a demigod naturally will be determined by their mortal parent, not their godly parent. The best example of this is Hazel.
Marie Levesque very specifically summoned Pluto because he was a god of wealth. It’s how she perceived him, not as a god of the underworld, the dead, or shadows, but as a god if riches and jewels. This explains why Hazel’s abilities are focused on riches. (I’m aware Pluto grants Marie a wish, and that part of that is that Hazels jewels are all cursed. However. Even after they stop being cursed (kind of) at the end of SoN she doesn’t lose the ability to summon them. SHE is the gift Pluto granted Marie, not the gems themselves) This doesn’t mean that she can’t access other abilities associated with children of Pluto/Hades, as is obvious in HoH when she assists Nico in shadow traveling everyone out of the House of Hades, or that the dead don’t sense her as a child of the Underworld and defer to her, like the Leres at CJ, but that isn’t how her powers naturally manifest.
Sticking with Hades, Nico (and Bianca) are a good comparison: they have (kind of) the same father as Hazel, but their abilities are very different. Looking at Maria, we don’t know too much, but I am going to assume something based on the fact that she’s from Italy in the 30s and her name is Maria: she was probably Catholic. Now, as someone who was raised Catholic, I feel qualified to say that Catholics are, while not as a whole superstitious, they are quite obsessed with death. Not in a Rapture sort of way the way some denominations are but more in a…they care A LOT about the Saints and Heaven and judgement, and because of that they’re more than willing to accept things happening because of intercession of a Saint or a dead loved one guiding them. I am not Italian in the 30s, so I can’t speak to that. But because of that, and the fact we KNOW that Maria knew the father of her children was Hades, Lord of the Dead (he offered to keep her safe in the Underworld, she knew about the prophecy, she knew Zeus wanted her dead) we can see how these things about her are reflected in her children.
Nico is known as the Ghost King, because his powers mostly manifest in his ability to summon and control the dead. He also has powers related to shadows, but he really has to practice to get good at it and not pass out. Affecting the dead is the first thing we see him do as a Hades power (dismissing the skeletons attacking Percy at the end of TC, and again all through BotL with Minos) before we ever see him shadow travel, which isn’t introduced until tLO, two books after his introduction. While Bianca’s page time is limited, the only real Hades power we see her demonstrate is when she destroys the skeleton. Maria saw Hades as the king of the dead more than any of his other powers. She obviously RECOGNIZED he had dominion over darkness and shadows (she says so when she tells him she won’t raise her children in the darkness of the Underworld) but that isn’t the part of him that she sees and values and fell in love with. She had kids with the god of the dead, so her children primarily manifest their powers over that domain. I also think that the fact she knew she was dating a god made her children more powerful, if that makes sense. Nico and Hazel are some of the most powerful demigods in the series, even apart from being big three kids.
But Mags, Mags! I hear you cry, what about kids like Annabeth? Athena kids don’t have obvious powers, how is that relevant here?
There aren’t a ton of good comparisons for Annabeth to see how her abilities compare to her siblings besides maybe Malcolm. However, I’ll do my best.
Annabeth’s power from Athena is her intellect and her cunning. Let’s look at how Athena and Fred met: Annabeth tells us that without Athena’s help, he wouldn’t have graduated his doctoral program. So when Fred met, we can assume he met Athena in her aspect of being a scholar. We know is that this is not Athena’s only mythic role, she is also a strategist and a patroness of useful crafts like weaving among other things.
I believe that Annabeth’s intellect really does manifest more as a scholar than anything else. For example, she has no formal schooling between the ages of 7 and 12, when she is at camp full time. Those are some formative years when a child creates a foundation for their future learning, and Annabeth has ADHD and dyslexia. School should not be a walk in the park for her. And yet, she doesn’t really struggle to reenter school, and she’s constantly referenced as doing essentially independent studying, whether it’s reading books in Ancient Greek or working on Daedalus’s laptop. Studying and researching is her hobby because it comes incredibly naturally to her, which matches up with how Fred would have seen Athena. And yes, we see her weave to get across the cavern in MoA, but that’s kind of a one off. Annabeth herself realizes in the moment that, “oh yeah, Athena’s the goddess of useful crafts,” like it’s never occurred to her to even attempt such a thing before. The only time we see her bring this talent back is at the beginning of BoO when Jason is stabbed (iirc - I could be wrong on this reference. I didn’t open a single book to write this essay)
Comparing that to Malcolm, we don’t know a ton about his powers or his parent. All I can recall is a single short story in which Athena sends him a dream requesting he reinstate a festival of hers, and he leads the Athena cabin in setting everything up, and I think weaves the Athena Parthenos a cool robe? Fact check me here, that’s as memory serves.
So why wouldn’t Athena ask Annabeth to do that? She’s the one who found the statue after all. I’m willing to bet it’s because whomever Malcolm’s father is, he met Athena in her aspect as a craftswoman. The skills that Malcolm inherited are primarily to do with crafting because of his mortal parent.
You can also see why some aspects of gods aren’t really seen in their children. For example, Dionysus is a god of wine but also notably mania. Of his two children we see + the one child of Bacchus we see, (Castor, Pollux, and Dakota) all three only have affinities towards the former. (There are vague allusions to the twins assisting the Demeter cabin with the strawberries because fruit bearing plants do well with them, although grapes are best, and Dakota has his kool aid addiction) but none ever display an ability to induce mania. Dionysus does, in TC when Percy Iris Messages him, but his kids don’t. Why? I’m willing to bet that less people are attracted to the manic aspect of Dionysus than the party side, especially because it requires wanting to make a baby with the guy. Not everyone, I’m sure at some point there’s been a Dionysus demigod who could, but it’s be rarer.
So what about Percy? He has like ALL his dad’s powers. Eh - kind of? Walk with me here:
We know quite a bit about Sally and Poseidons relationship, that they were together for an entire summer, that they met at Montauk, and that Sally knew she was dating the King of the Ocean. (Poseidon also offers her a palace under the sea to keep her safe from Zeus. Now he’s 2/2 on having his brothers offering to keep their lovers safe from him and thus revealing their identities to them and making their kids even more powerful)
We know that she associates Poseidon with the sea very strongly, but more so that she thinks he is powerful but GENTLE. I posit that because of that, it explains why water is healing to Percy. Zeus kids don’t get magically better when they stick a finger in an outlet. Demeter kids aren’t healed by plants. This is kind of unique to Percy and I think it’s because of Sally and Poseidon’s relationship. I would also assume that at some point, Poseidon showed her that he could communicate with sea life and horses, and those then became part of her idea of him, which is why water, equestrians, and fish are the parts of Percy’s power that comes most naturally.
You know what Poseidon’s the god of that isn’t in Percy’s primary powered? Earthquakes. He’s done it once: Mt St Helen’s in BotL and he did so while he was actively dying and the mountain was already erupting a little bit, he just made it worse. But he’s never actively tried to do so. It feels kind of like Hazels shadow travel: he probably could, with a lot of effort and maybe some help because his dad IS Poseidon, but it’s not his thing.
It’s also why he can kind of mess with ice. The only real time we see him do so is in SoN when he collapses the glacier CJ in Alaska, but for the most part, if water isn’t in its liquid form, he doesn’t really mess with it. No steam either. He probably COULD, but Sally met Poseidon by an ocean, so that’s their basis.
The poison in HoH reads similar to the earthquake. He probably could control any water based liquid but it would take more effort and he doesn’t want to. For what it’s worth, yes, Percy could blood bend, easier than he could poison bend because blood is salt water. But he won’t. Because it disturbed him.
Moving on.
Mags! That’s all well and good, but what about Thalia and Jason? Don’t they kind of disprove your theory? They have the exact same mortal parent, why do they have such different powers?
Well, for what it’s worth, they DON’T have the exact same parents. Zeus and Jupiter are not the same god. So they’re technically half siblings through Beryl. Swerve. But I see your point - if I’m suggesting that the powers one inherits from their godly parent are determined by one’s mortal parent, then Thalia and Jason should be basically the same.
Well, they are pretty similar, all things considered, but a key part of that is what there really is to inherit from their godly parent. This gets more into classical theory that I am not an expert in, but from my understanding: you can generally state that of the two, Zeus was more impulsive and wrathful and might smite you for anything, and Jupiter filled the father/king of the gods role more. And we already agreed at the bringing with Nico and Hazel that Roman and Greek gods aren’t the same.
And. When we’re looking at the relationship between Beryl and Zeus, it’s a wild starlet having a wild fling, she has no children, she parties, she’s here and there and everywhere, she can’t be tied down. And it’s implied that she knew he was a god, because being able to catch the attention of Zeus apparently made her go off the deep end when he left. And she wanted very badly to see Olympus but Zeus refused (with good reason. The reason being Hera) Thus, Thalia’s powers pick from the ones matching those traits. She’s got power over lightning, but not necessarily the sky. She probably could fly if she ever tried. And also: she doesn’t have to ask permission to call down lightning. She just does. She makes her own lightning.
Jason on the other hand, is the result of Beryl and Jupiter. The relationship was a smidge more stable. Beryl was calmer when Jupiter was around and Jupiter presented himself to her in a more…grand? aspect. It makes sense then that Jason can fly but he’s not really a lightning guy. Like. Yes. He caaaan, but pretty much so any time it counts there’s a mention that he like, petitions his dad to let him summon a bolt. But he controls the winds with ease, because Jupiter is a king, and that’s how he presented himself to Beryl.
Which brings me to a straight up theory I have about May Castellan. I think that she was either a politician or a political correspondent. Someone who was on the news a lot, someone with a sharp tongue, an excellent debtor, and an orator extraordinaire. All we know about her in canon is that she had Luke, and she was special enough to Hermes that he continued to visit her after Luke was born, and that he told her about the Oracle, and how that turned out.
Hermes is the god of a metric ton of stuff. Thieves, travelers, tricksters, merchants, athletes, gymnasiums, orators, communication, gambling, the list goes on. A lot of his kids are described as speedy: their mortal parents probably caught his eye due to being athletes. We know Luke to be very charismatic and the best swordsman the camp had seen in years. I think that indicates that May attracted Hermes as someone with a sharp wit, who could verbally spar anyone into submission (unless she was legit into swordplay) and she caught peoples attention and could convince them of anything. It also explains why she’d have been so insistent on becoming Oracle, besides being clear sighted. If she was an elected official or a media correspondent, it would suggest an interest in conveying messages, and being the voice for others, like being the voice of Delphi.
But Mags, that’s all well and good but Will’s mom is a musician. Why is his only gift on that front that horrible dog whistle?
Eh…? This one is tricky, however, it might be that she attracted Apollo because of her music, but he attracted her because he exudes warmth and light, thus her child gained healing and light powers and not music. It’s a weaker explanation. Sorry.
There is one other very notable exception to this theory, and I do have an answer to that. Leo’s fire ability had very little to do with Esperanza, and everything to do with the prophecy.
I think that Leo was fated to have power over fire, as the fire in “to storm or fire the world must fall.” That being said, I don’t think Leo’s crafting skills were fated. Those I feel were passed down from Hephaestus through Esperanza’s association with engineering and crafting with him, but the fire wasn’t. The fates wove that power in.
TLDR: Which powers a demigod inherits from their godly parent isn’t random, it’s determined by how their mortal parent perceived the god and their domains.
#Percy Jackson#pjo#pjo hoo toa#pjo theory#hazel levesque#nico di angelo#annabeth chase#malcolm pace#thalia grace#jason grace#may castellan#sally jackson#frederick chase#marie levesque#maria diangelo#luke castellan#beryl grace#will solace#naomi solace#leo valdez#esperanza valdez
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Solangelo Sleepover (feat Percy cuz it's his turn to babysit)
Nico: Hey, I found something
Percy: What is it?
Nico: Oh, just Will in a campus personality pageant
Percy: WHAT?!
Will: *tries to snatch away the tablet*
Percy: PLAY IT!
Tablet:
7 year old Will wearing a cowboy hat very sparkly gold tuxedo: Hi, I'm William Andrew Solace from Austin, Texas!
Nico, laughing: You look like neon yellow highlighter!!
Baby Will: And you should pick me for Mr Campus because *sings and dance* I am your sunshine. Your only sunshine. I make you happy when skies are grey. You'll never know dear how much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away! *smiles*
Percy: PLAY IT AGAIN! PLAY IT AGAIN!!!
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Nico, to Will: Why did you never tell us you were in beauty pageants?!
Will: Cuz it's embarrassing
Nico, laughing: It is, it really is
Will: Yeah, well, Percy writes Studio Ghibli fanfiction about himself and Annabeth and posts it on the internet
Nico: (º〇º) ... (⚆⩌⚆)...no..
Percy: WHY?! WHAT DID I DO?!
Will: I'm sorry, I had to get the spotlight off me and tearing down other people was part of my pageant training.
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The gods as parents makes me think of the types of parents vs their kid being bullied thing.
Poseidon goes to talk to the other kid's mother when his kid is being picked on. Athena encourages her child to find a way out of it by talking, making friends etc.
Ares asks what the fuck the kid wants him to do about it and hands them a baseball bat saying settle it themselves.
This is so funny lmaooooo!
Hear me out, Aphrodite is the mom that tells her kids that they’re being teased because the other kid has a crush on them. Apollo is the parent who just shrugs and goes, “that sucks, too bad you can’t be cool like me, kachow!”. And Hephaestus is just that dad who gets they’re kid a new Lego set to cheer them up.
#percy jackson and the olympians#percy jackson#percy series#pjo theories#pjo season 1#pjo#pjo tv show#aphrodite#ares pjo#hephaestus#apollo#poseidon#the gods are ambivalent parents at best with a few notable exceptions#the gods
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I was rereading some of my posts from 2021 and was reminded of how much meta I used to write so imma share my crazy headcanon/ theory which i thought up as plot for a revolution fic:
RR verse is on the "Olympus will fall" timeline and Zeus' actions are speeding it up.
In the recent decade there has been several great prophecies back to back. And people have remarked how weird it is that there have been so many. What if the reason is because of Zeus?
Remember, in greek mythology there is a major theme of how Your Fate Cannot Be Defied. And Zeus, king of Olympus, has a major Fate: being overthrown. However he managed to "defy" it by eating Metis.
My idea is that he has been forcefully clawing out a future where he is still king of Olympus. By doing this, he is literally changing the flow of fate. And obviously fate wants to correct itself, so the harder he fights it, the more counterforce he triggers. All prophecies meant to lead to his overthrowing are suddenly sped up. Olympus begins to lose power. Zeus is aware of this. He is also aware how people are becoming suspicious. And he needs a scapegoat. And who better than the god of prophecy who is also a threat to the throne?
Apollo mentions that Zeus blamed him for his oracle revealing a prophecy "too early" and therefore causing it to happen early. However, everyone knows it's not possible to actually cause a prophecy to happen early...so why would Zeus even have this weird line of thought? everyone probably dismissed it as Zeus being irrational, but there a juicier theory this ties into:
Apollo being the one to overthrow Zeus.
The idea of "fall of the sun, the final verse". What if this is the final prophecy that is meant to happen before Zeus is overthrown? And what if the fall this speaks of is actually when Apollo fell close to chaos? When he pulled himself together there?
What if he reformed different from his original godly form. He was literally almost gone, his body was disintegrating. Maybe he pulled himself together using the energies of chaos. Apollo himself isn't aware of this, due to a suspicious memory gap between him clawing up from the cliff and him waking up next to Artemis.
And this adds to another headcanon of mine, the fates choose Apollo to be the god of prophecy on purpose. At first glance, this is a horrible match. If they wanted a good servant, why would they choose someone so closely tied to his heart and so likely to fight fate? Someone who dares get them drunk just to extend a human's lifespan? UNLESS... they WANT him to eventually try and defy fate??
Imagine if fate was a compass and Zeus had forcefully wrenched the needle point at a bleak dark future where Olympus falls with him. And this river direction has been set so deeply in stone and run on for so long, it has worn a grove and become the mostly likely future.
you need someone willing to fight, someone to wrench the needle out. SOMEONE FAMILAR WITH FATE AND Prophecy. Someone who has the power to fight it and win. Someone who has the will. Perhaps a baby god who was willing to fight Python, and who would have likely died there. But if he successfully did take on the powers of prophecy, one day that same godling would fight Python again, would absorb the powers of chaos to recreate himself.
Perhaps not today and maybe not even for the next four thousand years
but one day that godling would stare down at that wretched compass hand and decide to yank the flow out of its place. And maybe, that godling means a chance for Olympus to have a different future.
Anyways that's my crazy theory i hope it wasn't too confusing. It also links up with my other story theme idea about fate, hope and apollo blah blah blah, which i rambled about in a different post.
Edit: just remembered my other crazy thought, what if ZEUS PURPOSEFULLY TRIED TO GET RID OF APOLLO NOT ONLY CAUSE HE IS A THREAT TO THE THRONE BUT ALSO BECAUSE AS THE GOD OF PROPHECY HE IS MOST LIKELY TO REALIZE SOMETHING IS WRONG AND THAT ZEUS IS MESSING WITH FATE?!???? Basically pulling a imma say you're the murderer before u realise im the murderer. (i cant remember the actual saying Lmaoo)
#mine#lester papadopoulos#trials of apollo#pjo apollo#Crazy theory time#I like my theories full of spice and theme or whatever#Meta#Zeus#percy jackson and the olympians
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One thing i do think about (in regard to both the book and the show) is how it would make so much sense for Percy to know a startling amount of history. Like obviously we know he’s not the most academically inclined but i like to imagine that when it came to history class he was always freakishly good at it—like if they were at a WW2 museum listening to some audio play over a display documenting the Pacific War how Percy would just know what ships went where, how he would be looking at the uniforms in the glass cases and recognize some of the names even though he has no idea why.
And it’s all because water has memory.
He knows these sailors, these ships, these niche events that the history books scarcely even cover because he’s the son of the sea. He doesn’t have to go out of his way to try and learn the timeline of things or the details of certain historical events because he just knows them subconsciously because the water remembers it all.
#when i remember the theory that water has memory#mix that with percy jackson brain rot#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson#percy pjo#pjo#pjo fandom#pjo series#percy jackson show#percy jackson headcanon#percy jackson heroes of olympus#percy jackson headcanons#pjo tv show#pjo hoo toa#pjo disney+
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Okay but the camper in the wheelchair either has a super tricked out celestial-bronze plated magical flying wheelchair with wings gifted by Hermes himself, or Chiron just gave zero shits about how inaccessible the outside world is because there is no way she’d survive a cross-country road trip while being chased by monsters in a normal wheelchair. If they offered me up for a quest like that, I would have wheelied my ass tf out of there. She chose a long-range weapon for a REASON
If the wheelchair IS tricked out, however, then I require a scene where her magical chariot-wheelchair hybrid flies her up above the big battle as she takes out monsters with flaming arrows, or the show is ableist. I don’t make the rules—
#i have not stopped thinking about this#like if it’s a normal wheelchair then Chiron’s feeding her to the wolves#but if it’s a MAGICAL wheelchair then we’re being robbed of quality magical wheelchair content#me watching Chiron offer her up for a quest like WHO PUT MY GIRL THERE STOP BRINGING HER INTO SHIT SHE DOESNT DESERVE THIS#reblog for magical flying wheelchair#my theory is the Hephaestus cabin made it for her#do you think the Hephaestus cabin made Chiron’s too? I think I’m onto something#the ableism is a joke btw obv#percy jackson#pjo#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson and the olympians#pjo tv show#percy jackson tv show#pjo spoilers#percy jackson the lightning thief#pjo series
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Something about percy and the concept of breathing like
Sally has to tell percy to breathe once in a while (this and the next example is tv canon but its technically Rick's work since he wrote it so I'm counting it)
@vfdcatlady on here was talking about how percy was not frozen in time as the golden statue in the tunnel of love scene, but he was trapped inside and suffocated judging by the way he gasped for breath after coming back to life and by the way he was slightly panicking while the gold enveloped him as if he couldn't breathe.
Percy's fear in heroes of Olympus was drowning aka not being able to breathe
Percy canonically having issues of wheezing after coming back from tartarus
Edit: percy canonically hating claustrophobic spaces
#percabeth#percy jackson#pjo fandom#rick riordan#annabeth chase#pjo#heroes of olympus#pjo tv show#pjo tv series#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson theory#pjo text post#pjo series#pjo spoilers#percy jackson spoilers#walker scobell
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