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murfpersonalblog · 1 year ago

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All of this, thank you! I'm constantly baffled by the hypocrisy of book fans who hate the show cuz of Lestat's "character assassination," but love the movie. Like.... Were we watching the same film? 🤨 Lestat is CLEARLY not painted in a good light--not by Louis, and not by the film itself.

I've talked about the Villain!Lestat parallels, where Lestat is explicitly shown to be a horrible person in IWTV, who has no RESPECT for the living or the dead. Sure, Louis loves him anyway--Louis has GARBAGE taste in men! XD Claudia telling Louis to meet vampires WORTHY of his love rings so true--Lestat hadn't EARNED Louis' love in IWTV yet. So it drives me crazy when VC fans jump the gun by preemptively projecting too much credit onto Lestat as is is PRESENTLY, in IWTV, with the man he becomes AFTERWARDS, in the rest of the VC. Like, HELLO: Louis was mad at Lestat in IWTV, just as Anne Rice was angry with her own husband when she wrote IWTV in the first place--Lestat's not meant to be seen positively YET, y'all, stop.

I've talked about Ep5's drop scene parallels with the film--they BOTH show Lestat dropping Louis almost to his death, but it hits different. Book/film!Loustat had only just met, so the violence is par for the course with campy Gothic Horror. Lestat didn't seduce Louis--it was just accept vampirism or I'll kill you, period. I call book/film!Loustat "Vegas Married"--they were strangers, who struggled to get along from the very beginning. But AMC gave Loustat an ACTUAL courtship--they're married, so it's more of a tragic Gothic Romance. I love what AMC did with Ep5, cuz the emotional impact of the Lestat's violence is ELEVATED--you feel more for Louis as a HUSBAND who is being beaten by his spouse, than a drunk being jumped by a STRANGER.

As for trauma porn vs representing black struggle, I agree that AMC was VERY intentional about Ep5. IMO people have blown Ep5 WAY out of proportion.

(Under the Read More cut:) "And to see white IWTV fans sidestep this entirely back during the final stretch of season one to complain that having Lestat (who canonically abused Louis in other ways) assault Louis somehow ruined LESTAT’S character and THEIR SHIP. While completely sidestepping what themes they were intending and got across (you know like genuine media literacy) and the onscreen brutalization that happened without warning is disgusting.... White fans being disingenuous and asking Louis to fade into the background until Lestat (the white character) becomes the focus for TVL. While constantly mocking and ignoring the concept of IPV towards black people makes the point for me as to why this was an interesting and purposeful direction to head in. IPV is so ignored that when IWTV includes it, fans went out of their way to argue whether or not their favorite white boy would DARE TO DO THIS, and not why the writers did this and what they were attempting to say. IPV and queer victims of abuse are so ignored that after this happened people started making posts talking about APOLOGIZING TO A FICTIONAL LESTAT for writers “slandering” him!" @pretty-weird-ideas

Precisely. 👏 Some fans must have selective amnesia, to act like AMC!Louis is the first black person Lestat's terrorized, or that IWTV as a franchise has shown being brutalized. It's actually pretty interesting, cuz UNLIKE the book/film, AMC actively AVOIDS showing violence against most other black people, while STILL highlighting black struggle and racism. Like, we're TOLD about a lot of awful stuff that's happening--straight out the gate Ep1 has Bricktop raped/sodomized by the racist Alderman, but we don't SEE it, and there's no TW for it either. IIRC, other than Louis & Claudia, Charlie is the only DEAD black person shown in S1--although Claudia killed him, it's Lestat's disrespectful treatment of Charlie's body (and hers--the 1st of 3 times we see Lestat put her in a chokehold as literal child abuse) that made Claudia start to hate Lestat.

Even during Ep3's race riots, blink and you'll miss black people being hurt. (Claudia's mean auntie on fire is faceless, which is SUPER interesting considering how high yellow Claudia is, and her white "Uncle" Les being so believable). Louis focuses on the buildings on fire more than any people being killed--a true testament to his own effed up perspective and vampiric/capitalist nature. LOUIS doesn't see the violence done to black people (guilty conscience much? 💯), so we the viewers don't either. Ep5/6's focus is on LOUIS, and HIS pain & suffering--HIS body. AMC handles violence VERY uniquely.

Conversely, look at the movie's GRATUITOUS violence done to black people--especially black women.

In QUICK succession, the film goes from: 1st Act: Louis' first night in a coffin > Loustat having a threesome/killing a black tavern wench > DPDL plantation > Louis ALMOST biting house slave Thandy Newton (then rats) > interlude killing the rich white Evil Doer old lady & her boytoy (RIP her puppies) > (then birds) > whole bunch of slaves killed by Lestat/Loustat found in the river > slaves try to exorcise the demons with voodoo (Lestat insultingly calls their prayers "that NOISE!" as if they're the problem 🙄) > Louis kills Thandy Newton (the scene deliberately looks like rape) & carries her corpse telling the slaves "yes, your Master is the Devil!" > Pyromaniac du Lac burns down the plantation (Lestat whines about it) > Lestat kills the two black prostitutes (which TVL later retcons that since they were killing their johns, Lestat killing them was noble 🙄 and compare this to the treatment of AMC!Bricktop vs history's IRL Bricktop fighting/killing her johns) > 2nd Act: cue Claudia, who interestingly is only shown killing white people. The first THIRD of the movie is a RELENTLESS BARRAGE of black brutalization. The film actually goes out of its way to make killing black women look SEXY & FUN.

Meanwhile, AMC is intentionally VERY explicit about the assault done to Louis (and Claudia) being TERRIBLE to look at.

Daniel (a white man) is the audience surrogate, and his callous attitude towards seeing Claudia's SV diary pages represents the AUDIENCE'S perspective, the white gaze that actually SALIVATES over seeing black men & women be raped, assaulted & killed--which is why I'm GLAD Louis made Daniel seizure, eff him! (And what happens when the black father Louis tries to defend his black daughter's privacy? He gets SLAPPED IN THE FACE by a white man, while the brown man Armand holds Louis back!) AMC knows what they're doing, and so far it's been masterful work IMO. They offscreened what Bruce did, but I'm VERY curious to see how they'll handle Claudia's death in S2, and what Armand does to brutalize HER black body.

Like come on y'all, the first time we see Lestat on the show, he's talking to Miss Lily (a black prostitute) about black CONSUMPTION: cinnamon & caramel & FOOD. (And her death is offscreened, too.)

Like, NGL on one hand the show's violence doesn't really faze me. This is a show about VAMPIRES after all. Lestat punched a HOLE through a PRIEST'S HEAD, Louis ripped some dude's whole JAW off, Claudia spat out some guy's effing eyeball, the Alderman's intestines were dangling out of his torso, Antoinette got her finger cut off, etc.... The Body Horror is THERE, front & center, not a TW in sight. It's the subtleties that get me reeling--this whole effing show needs a TW for the non-gory/violent ways they depict the brutality of racism.

Every single instance of racism on this show boils my blood--Ep5 was just one more coal on the already raging fire! I've discussed how Louis symbolizes an entire culture of violence done to black people by white folk, well before Lestat's Ep5 IPV, through NUMEROUS instances of disrespect done to his black body that viewers seem to have casually/conveniently overlooked.

Louis being a victim of IPV and racism is not the show glorifying violence done to black people, but highlighting the reality of black brutalization.

Trauma Porn vs Representing Black Struggle in IWTV

TW: Domestic Violence (Focus) Rape (mentioned 1x)

Spoilers for the IWTV AMC Series

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#louis de pointe du lac #loustat #racism #interview with the vampire #racial inequality #gender inequality #justice for claudia #louis de pointe du black #iwtv tvc metas

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stellocchia · 2 years ago

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ya know what song REALLY reminds me of c!ranboo? the handsome devil's Charlie's Inferno. In the song,our protagonist is sent to hell because all the good he's done is superficial,surface level without him actually believing in doing the things he does on his own but because he's doing what OTHERS think is right. he gets his wife a card with a rose every month,goes to church on sundays,but judges people openly and to quote the song,"Avoiding all the little things that were hard to ask".-

when he is sent to hell for only doing good in a way that's convient (which definitely counts as sloth,maybe pride considering he seems to believe he DESERVES to go heaven,running up the escalator),he effectively acts like he's a rich patron being kicked out of a resturant,saying that they must've confused him for someone and that he should see someone he knew or someone with authority to vouch for him. hes a cowardly kind of good. which feels like cranboocore

This is one of the biggest c!Ranboo disses I've seen so far, but it's also entirely too accurate to his character.

And we go back to the "If you don't take a stance you're effectively just siding with the winners" thing that pisses me off so much about c!Ranboo. He hates sides, so he sides with the oppressors by default and doesn't notice his hypocrisy in doing so.

#regulus-ready-to-scream ask #dream smp #ranboo #c!ranboo critical

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demonic-ninja-cat · 3 years ago

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To expand on what I said in the last post, where I mentioned how I hate the Supernatural Fandom with a passion, here are some of the main reasons why:

Their belief that you can't criticize any character in the show who is any sort of minority or who has any sort of trauma, and if you do then you're a prejudiced asshole who only hates them because they're a minority/have trauma and who hates minorities/people with trauma

All of the "If you hate Mary Winchester/Claire Novak/Charlie Bradbury/Any Other Female Hunter Character at all, then you just hate women/are sexist/hate strong female characters" posts

The abuse apologism(especially relating to Dean and his relationships with everyone, but especially especially Sam, Cas, and Jack)

The constant glorification, romanticization, justification, woobification, and excusing of Dean and everything that Dean says or does

The constant glorification, romanticization, justification, woobification, normalization, and excusing of Hunters as a whole and Hunting as a concept/institution

The constant glorification of Hunter Characters like Claire, Charlie, Jody, Mary, and Eileen, pretty much just for being reoccurring characters who are minorities, and acting like they're never done anything wrong ever, and saying that anyone who criticizes them for anything is just sexist/homophobic/ableist/misogynistic/racist/etc.

The demonization and dehumanization of supernaturals as a whole and the treatment of supernatural characters in fanfics, especially in regards to making them all be either Species-Traitor Hunters who mercilessly kill their own kind and are praised for it or Irredeemably Evil Villains who are nearly always killed off

The way all of the rps/fanfics/fanart/posts/etc. force SamnDean, Cas, Jack, and a bunch of characters who either barely know them or outright hate them into being their "Adorable Perfect Found Family Who All Live Together In The Bunker"

How they act like all of the unhealthy, toxic, and even outright abusive relationships in the show are "adorable" and "perfect" and "healthy" and whatever, just because the characters in the relationship in question are Main Characters/Popular Characters/Hunter Characters

The way that so many of the destiel shippers treat Cas like just an accessory for their ship and Dean's Walking Angelic S*x Toy/Love-Slave and get upset and act like he “betrays” Dean if he so much as cares about anyone besides Dean(and maybe Jack)

The way that the destihellers harass and bully people who don’t like Dean and/or who don’t ship Destiel, and call anyone who doesn’t ship their toxic ship “homophobic”, even when the person being accused of being homophobic ships other non-straight ships

All of the dad!Dean crap, and how they make Dean be Claire/Jack/whoever’s father, and how they make Claire, Jack, and other Kid/Young Adult Characters into Destiel Children

The way people get so up in arms and defensive if you criticize their favorite character for legit reasons(mostly Dean), and then will sometimes turn around and make up/exaggerate shit in order to to hate on/bash other people’s favorite characters(mostly Sam and/or Cas)

How some of the most popular ships in the fandom, the ones with the most posts and works about them, are among the most toxic, abusive, and disgusting ships in the fandom(eg. Destiel, Wincest, Samifer, etc.)

How the Wincestie and Bibro types like to bash my favorite characters(eg. Cas and Jack) and treat them like shit, and act like only SamnDean matter

How some SamnDean/Bibro/Wincest fans act like Sam and Dean are perfect, and are all annoyingly snooty with their superiority complexes about how “they understand the show and it’s all about brotherly love” and stuff like that, and bash and insult Cas in literally all of their posts and etc. They will do things like, call Cas insulting and degrading names, and bash him for stuff that is either made up, exaggerated, or that is literally the same as or similar-to-but-not-as-bad-as things that SamnDean have done.

How they make long-ass metas and essays about destiel and homophobia in spn and shit, but refuse to acknowledge almost any of the racism, sexism, ableism, etc. in the show

How said metas and essays about "homophobia in spn" are literally almost entirely just about “Destiel not being canon” and “Charlie's death”, and occasionally “Cas' death”(but only in the Bury Your Gays and "Cas died and didn't get to be with his twu wuv after confessing his feelings! Waaaahhh! ThEy SiLeNcEd Us!" way, of course, and no mention of how he died spewing bullshit about how "good" and "loving" his abuser was), and completely ignore any of the many other homophobic things in SPN that don't revolve around the Hunter Fan-Faves.

The rampant and disgusting hypocrisy, both with Hunters vs Supernaturals and with Dean vs Anyone Else.

An example regarding Hunters, is how they will say that killing any human, even one who is an abuser or a murderer, is “bad” and “evil” and “villainous”, but killing any supernatural, even an innocent one, is “ok” and “good” and “heroic”.

An example regarding Dean, is how they will say that anything bad Dean did while he had the MOC “wasn’t really Dean” and “you can’t judge him for that”, but then will go on to judge, condemn, and bash Sam and Cas for things they did while they were possessed(Both), soulless(Sam), or had hundreds of monster and leviathan souls inside them(Cas)!

and likely more things that I'm forgetting

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panelshowsource · 6 years ago

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a note about women’s month 💘

thank you to everyone who voted in the fave female panelists poll this year! last year was a blast and this year was even better! we’ve seen more woman on tv this year — and some improved, though grossly insufficient, diversity within that — and i love celebrating that with you everyday!

last year, i wrote this:

the lack of diversity in british comedy is an alarming issue that has only recently become headline news. statistics presented by this study, based on 50 years of panel shows and over 4,700 individual episodes, are beyond disappointing for women (here is an easy-to-read graph by series & by year); similar disappointment stems from the lineups at popular comedy festivals, like edinburgh. in 2014, the head of tv at the bbc promised to end all-male comedy shows, a “step in the right direction” that hasn’t been without fear of tokenism, fair criticism as well as some naysayers. women, people of colour, lgbt peoples, those differently-abled and those all of the above and in between are just as funny as cis-identifying white men and deserve a place on our screens. watch their standup, buy their books, stream their videos, listen to their podcasts, comment on and like their content, follow their social media. this support can directly help women become more visible in british comedy.

in the last year, have you been actively conscious of supporting women in comedy? i’d like to take a moment to talk about some ways you can do that :)

➡ from feminist discourse to tales of humans & their dogs to ghost stories, these women are providing some of the most touching, stimulating, and funny reading coming out of comedy:

How to be Champion: My Autobiography by Sarah Millican

Animal: The Autobiography of a Female Body by Sara Pascoe

The Guilty Feminist: From our noble goals to our worst hypocrisies by Deborah Frances-White

The Actual One: How I Tried, and Failed, to Avoid Adulthood Forever by Isy Suttie

Cheer Up Love: Adventures in Depression with the Crab of Hate by Susan Calman

The More You Ignore Me by Jo Brand

Can't Stand Up for Sitting Down: A Memoir by Jo Brand

Look Back in Hunger: The Autobiography by Jo Brand

Born Lippy: How to Do Female by Jo Brand

Is It Just Me? by Miranda Hart

Peggy & Me by Miranda Hart

Nina Is Not OK by Shappi Khorsandi

A Beginner's Guide to Acting English: A Memoir by Shappi Khorsandi

Spectacles: A Memoir by Sue Perkins

East of Croydon: Blunderings through India and South East Asia by Sue Perkins

Once More, with Feeling: How We Tried to Make the Greatest Porn Film Ever by Victoria Coren Mitchell and Charlie Skelton

For Richer, For Poorer: A Love Affair with Poker by Victoria Coren Mitchell

Dead Funny: Horror Stories by Comedians featuring Sara Pascoe, Katy Brand, and Danielle Ward

...and that’s just to name a handful! my fingers would need a 5 min power nap if i tried typing out all of susie dent’s books 💪

➡ this is a list of a lot relevant active podcasts coming out of britain right now (though it is missing, most notably, off menu). for example, if you liked alice levine on taskmaster, why not listen to her podcast? or watch/listen her on rhlstp? this is such a fun way to get more deeply involved in the comedy of some of your favourite ladies! might i recommend isy suttie’s the things we do for love, anneka harry’s brown bread, or box set go! with nicola stephenson (the newest ep features rebecca front!)? most of these are free, or they can be found/requested at /r/notapanelshow p.s. suzi ruffell, rosie jones, tiff stevenson and more are scheduled to appear on rhlstp this season 😍

➡ here is a list of some radio programmes currently on the air. while it does look stacked with men (because it is), women do feature on so many of these series and absolutely smash it! did you know sandi toksvig hosted the news quiz for almost ten years, and its regular panelists include susan calman, rebecca front, zoe lyons, and more? or that victoria coren mitchell has hosted heresy since 2006 (because there’s nothing she can’t do)? or that sarah millican, jo brand, and sally phillips have each hosted series of the museum of curiosity? these are all on the masterpost! 👏 p.s. you can always search for and/or request more radio shows at /r/panelshow or, if they’re not panel radio shows, /r/notapanelshow :)

➡ social 👏 media 👏 determines 👏 relevancy 👏 do i agree with this system? no. is this the system entertainers are currently slaves to? yes. do you follow your favourite women on twitter, instagram, youtube, etc? one click. one like. one retweet. one reblog. here is a list of some of the comedians i follow on twitter to get you started — all of your faves are on there! when you like something they are on, tweet about it! tag them, the network, the channel, use the hashtags, post pictures! tell channels like dave or people like richard osman who your faves are, who deserves more exposure, who you want to see in the future! we’re already obsessing over how much we like these ladies anyways, so why not make that obsession even more visibile?

➡ we have a really sweet, modest community here of at least 10,000 people. this is not something i’ve ever talked about because i don’t want what i’m going to say to be misconstrued as begging for notes — that is not my concern. but you may have heard people on this site talk about something called the like/reblog ratio. a lot of creators are concerned that, apart from tumblr’s ever-evolving ludicrous algorithms murdering their visibility, people are so obsessed with their blog aesthetics that they’re not actually reblogging everything they like. here’s a couple of my gifset details, one from a nicher post and one from a more popular post:

while i appreciate any notes, numbers likes these aren’t always encouraging. i’m not here to tell you how to enjoy your spare time and interests, or to criticise people who enjoy aesthetic. i just want to point out that if you want someone to be successful, you play a direct part in promoting them and spreading their art. as the years pass, this becomes more and more true. i know how much you all love these ladies — i get messages about them every single day — but it’s a simple fact that a gifset of james acaster or noel fielding or richard ayoade or david mitchell is going to get more notes than a post about any of the women who placed in the top 5 of this poll. i am not bringing this up to this make anyone feel guilty about what they enjoy; i only hope my mentioning this encourages you to be conscientious when participating on social media, especially when your interest lies in the products of a grossly unjust industry that is taking a lot fucking time to get itself on the right track. more followers on a comedian’s twitter = more work for that comedian, because that’s simply the direction the film & tv industry is going. if your follow yields that much power, why not use it for good?

please support women. if you buy one of their books, please message me and tell me which one! if you think one of them is shining on a radio programme and we’re sleeping on her, please let me know (timestamps appreciated!)! if one starts a gofundme or patreon to start a podcast or a tour, please donate 50p and then send me the link! there is always more we can be doing and we are always underestimating what even smallest amount of support means for their bigger picture. i don’t have all the answers, but i love the feeling i get when i believe society is evolving in the right direction. rose matafeo won the edinburgh comedy award in 2018, and sarah keyworth and kiri pritchard-mclean took the top awards at the 2019 chortle awards. women are here to stay and they’re fucking killing it. because duh ❣️

if you took the time to read this, i appreciate you x

#female top 5 #p #p.s. will post the top 5 results tomorrow and then it's back to our regularly scheduled programming...!

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kylermalloy · 5 years ago

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My Official Unofficial Ranking of Supernatural Seasons That Nobody Asked For

This was...surprisingly easy. For someone who has a hard time picking favorites, I’m apparently quite eager to throw some seasons of one of my favorite shows under the bus.

My reasonings for this ranking are...all over the place. Since I’m considering seasons as a whole, I look mostly at the overall narrative structure, the prevalent themes, and the major character arcs. I won’t take individual/one-off episodes into much consideration...except for when I do. I won’t like some seasons/story arcs for any rationale between “this was sloppily executed,” “the message is misunderstood by viewers,” or even just that gif of Chris Evans “I don’t wike it.” I’m trying to look at seasons and storylines objectively, but I guarantee my Sam!girl bias will peek through at some point. Also, I reserve the right to change my mind at any point after I post this!

From bottom to top:

14 - Season 14

Ah, the twilight years of SPN. Now that we know this is the penultimate season, I’m a bit more lenient toward its shortcomings. Long running shows usually do stutter to a halt, story-wise. But still. I’m not taking it out of the bottom spot.

What was this season even about? Michael overtaking Dean? Nah, that barely lasted three whole episodes. Jack becoming evil? Not until the last six episodes. Team Free Will becoming a cohesive family unit? Lol. For a season that tried to set up Jack’s evil arc as a kid betraying his family, I hardly saw this “family” except in fanworks. The most heartfelt moments remained between Sam and Dean (not that I’m complaining about that—I loved those moments!) Was there an overarching theme besides “nobody is okay, especially Sam”? Season 14 is clumsy, unfocused, and does a poor job of telling the story it tried to tell. Even Mary’s second death reeked of “well, we didn’t know what to do with her and we needed a tragedy.” Oh yeah, and John was back for a hot minute.

13 - Season 9

Here’s one of these weird seasons. I like it, but I don’t. It’s well done, but it’s terrible. Also, I’m taking fan response into consideration on this one, since it colored my perception of it so negatively.

Season 9 could have been great. In a way, it was great. It was Dean’s dark arc—the part of Dean’s dark arc that I like. I’m not here to debate, just lay out the story. Dean stepped over a line. He tricked Sam into possession, lied to him for months, then refused to apologize afterward. He took the Mark of Cain as a penance, but it blew up in his face and turned him into something worse than he was before.

This is where fan response comes in. Fandom (from what I can tell; I wasn’t here back then) vilified Sam for setting boundaries with Dean, overwhelmingly siding with poor Dean who just didn’t want to be alone. The show, on paper, wasn’t trying to make the audience think this, but the POVs were skewed in such a way that we hardly got a chance to see Sam’s perspective and Sam’s trauma—so casual viewers didn’t really have a choice.

On a completely unrelated note (see, this is why this season is ranked so low) we have the angel storyline. What could’ve been a really cool and impactful story of celestial beings walking the earth, as well as Castiel exploring his new humanity in a way (that wasn’t just about sex) ended up a trite, dull affair about underdeveloped politics and characters I don’t care about. Did Metatron (the supposed big bad) even care about the Winchesters? I can’t remember. Only the actor’s indulgently entertaining performance saves that character. Even Castiel’s human arc was so short and ignored I sometimes forget it happened. This was a season that was so all over the place—good bones, bad execution.

12 - Season 12

This season is just...forgettable. Yet another season that was so all over the place—but unlike season 9, the story arcs did not culminate in a cool twist that pushed the SPN story to new heights. We had the BMOL, Mary’s return, and the Lucifer/Kelly/Dagon/nephilim story, and...honestly I can barely remember anything about them. The twisting story threads got interlocked at some points, like Mary working with the BMOL, and Sam and Dean working with them to take down Lucifer, but the threads were all wrapped up independently. To me, this suggests a lack of true investment in the stories and season arcs. Ultimately, Mary’s return was utterly wasted, the BMOL might as well have never existed, and the Lucifer storyline is a bloody, bloated carcass being dragged along behind the show by a fraying rope (called Buckleming) complete with a bad smell.

The reason I rank this season above season 9 is that I don’t shudder when I hear people talking about season 12. I don’t generally get angry when I think about it (except the way they did Crowley dirty) and it did give us Jack, the greatest fanon projection the show has ever given us. (I’ll elaborate on that in a minute)

11 - Season 10

This is the season in which I don’t like Dean’s dark arc. By that I mean...it wasn’t much of a dark arc. Instead of exploring Dean’s inner darkness and the choices that led him to take the MoC, we get a meandering season of (pretty enjoyable) one-offs. We are repeatedly told Dean can’t fight off what he truly is—except we’re also being told that Dean can’t truly control what the MoC is doing to him, meaning the MoC isn’t what he truly is. It’s a mixed message, and it ends up being too many episodes in a row of Dean staring moodily at his arm while he drinks. Sorry, an ancient tribal tattoo does not a compelling big bad make.

Speaking of bad guys, though, season 10 gave us Rowena! And more Crowley material! And the Stynes—wait, no. We don’t talk about...whatever they were.

I do like Sam’s determination to save Dean, and I even like the underhanded methods he used to get the MoC off. Charlie’s death was a horrifying shock, but it actually fed the story very well. And I know I said I wasn’t going to talk about individual episodes, but Soul Survivor and Fan Fiction are both epic.

10 - Season 8

...this season. This season is such a mixed bag you could almost rank it as two separate seasons! ;) This was Jeremy Carver’s first season as showrunner—and while I like what he ended up doing, I hated the way he played with the brother dynamics throughout the season, especially the first half. Season 8 starts out disjointed, very unconnected from the previous season. The story thread of “Sam didn’t look for Dean” is overplayed and very tired. Also a bit of a reach, considering the season 5 finale. My point is, Sam and Dean both act like pod people for the first part of this season. Dean is mad at Sam for...doing exactly what Dean himself did a few years ago (fandom misses the nuance of Dean’s hypocrisy and jumps right in the blame-Sam boat with him) and Sam is suddenly...living with a strange woman we barely get to meet and okay with not hunting anymore?

This is another example of the skewed POVs hurting the show’s message. We don’t get to see Sam’s grief the same way we saw Dean’s struggle in purgatory, and since Sam’s Amelia arc makes very little sense anyway, we’re forced to imagine it—and this is a disservice to both Sam and the overarching story.

However, the saving grace of season 8 is the second half. We get the bunker, the Trials storyline, which is a whump goldmine for my Sam-loving heart, and one of the best season finales this show has ever produced. I mean...they got married. In a CHURCH! I’m not really a wincester, but seriously how do you not ship it just a little when the show gives you stuff like THAT?!

*deep breath* I’m good. Moving on!

9 - Season 13

I...have a soft spot for this season. Anybody who follows me on here can probably guess why. That’s right, it’s Jack, the greatest fanon projection the show has ever gifted us.

Let me explain. The narrative structure of the season is a mess. The exploratory theme of Sam and Dean as parents is derailed by the fact that Sam and Dean spend less than six episodes with their surrogate child and spend the rest of the season spinning their wheels until it’s time for the finale. Lucifer as a villain doesn’t give a crap about the protagonists, which makes him a really boring and terrible antagonist—to say nothing of the fact that two of the writers try to make him sympathetic and end up assassinating the character harder than Michael!Dean did. I only found Scoobynatural mildly entertaining. As for Asmodeus...who’s that?

Basically, the only shining light in this season besides the brothers is Jack. And we don’t even get a consistent characterization of him. He’s essentially a blank slate, which means we as fans and fanwork creators get to make him whatever we want. While he’s supposedly the Winchesters’ kid in canon, it’s rarely shown—that falls on us as fans to make a reality. And boy do we make it reality! This is where I found my corner of fandom, and that’s why this mess of a season ranks relatively high for me. Still in the bottom half, but it gave me one of the greatest gifts the show has ever given.

8 - Season 7

I shouldn’t have to defend myself, but while most of the fandom harbors a little black spot of hatred for this season...I don’t. Like, at all.

I don’t agree with all the creative choices of this season—the Leviathans were an out-of-nowhere big bad with no connection to the Winchesters. However, the guy who played Dick Roman did a fantastic job hamming it up. And I love how all the pieces came together in the end—Sam and Dean, Cas, Crowley, even Meg as a surprise reluctant hero. We also got Charlie! And Kevin! Bobby got a fantastic arc, both before he died and from beyond the grave. And Crowley, even though he helped win the day, also rigged the game so he took all the pieces left on the board. Mad respect for my king.

Also, as a stalwart fan of Sam whump, Sam’s hallucination storyline was all kinds of awesome. (Except for how it abruptly ended and was never spoken of again)

I know objectively this season isn’t very good, but I still find myself rewatching it a surprising amount. I have a soft spot for Sera’s storytelling, and she did not have complete control over the creative decisions for this year. Season 7 only barely misses out of the top half.

7 - Season 3

This season is great, it really is. I think the main reason I rank it so low is because of the shortened season—Sam’s aborted arc. And that was obviously out of everyone’s control; the creators had to just pick up the pieces and make do with what circumstances gave them.

Basically, I don’t have anything bad to say about this season. It’s a brother-lovefest, it gives us Bela and Ruby, and yes we get some truly great one-off eps. Bad Day at Black Rock, A Very Supernatural Christmas, Mystery Spot, Jus in Bello, and Ghostfacers are among my favorite episodes to rewatch. I just mainly miss the end of Sam’s arc. Although I do appreciate the writers’ strike giving us Castiel instead, I still wish we could’ve gotten to see boyking!Sam save his brother.

6 - Season 2

While on the surface season 2 is barely different than season 1, it also gives us loads of gamechangers. It’s the coming-of-age season—Sam and Dean aren’t kids anymore; in fact, they aren’t anyone’s kids. The season bookends of John’s death and Sam’s death make a horrible tragedy that I don’t even care much what’s in the middle.

But then again, everything in between is so good. There’s not much of an overarching story, just a sense of dread and desperation as...something...draws near. (We don’t even know what it is, but it still scares us! It’s masterful!) The tone is consistent and effective, the brother dynamics are still balanced enough to fully enjoy, and of course...there’s Playthings. :)

(Y’all are gonna stop believing me when I say I’m not a wincester, I can feel it. What can I say, I have incestuous shipping tendencies.)

5 - Season 11

This is a season that I could tear limb from limb for falling so flat in the end, but...somehow I can’t bring myself to. I didn't find myself into the Amara storyline too much, mainly because the God/Darkness sibling dynamic wasn’t developed enough to parallel with Sam and Dean invest in. But this season does an awesome job of healing the brother dynamics. While seasons 8, 9, and 10 were fight-heavy, Sam and Dean spend this season in relative peace. In times of potential crisis, they band together instead of fracturing apart. And that, honestly, is enough for me to forgive...well, a lot, plotwise. The Dean/Amara connection that went nowhere, the Casifer storyline that went nowhere, the Darkness’s grudge against her brother that...went nowhere...and I’m not even going to touch on the Sam/Lucifer dynamic that started out SO GOOD and then...well...

Again, I’m not going to touch on it. I love this season despite its flaws.

4 - Season 1

Here it is. The season that started it all. I said I was going to consider mostly narrative structures for this ranking, yet here season 1 is without much of a narrative structure, fourth from the top.

The first season of a show is always the feel-around-in-the-dark season. This is where we learn the rules of the show, how the world works, and most importantly, who our characters are. We spend 22 episodes with the writers and actors just...figuring out who Sam and Dean are, most especially who they are to each other. They were so successful in this that they spawned a fifteen year phenomenon centered around this fraternal love story. As an additional plus, since the characters were so new, season 1 gives us the most balanced POV between the brothers. We get to feel for both of them without being pitted against each other, and I appreciate that more than words.

The horror is old-school, the storytelling can be a bit cliche, but every show has an origin story and I’m in love with this one.

3 - Season 6

Again, I love Sera Gamble’s storytelling. It’s most evidenced here in her first year of showrunning. This season had the astronomical task of following up season 5. How do you follow up the literal apocalypse?

...Astoundingly well. To me at least.

This season’s narrative structure is my favorite. It’s kind of a noir thriller, with more twists and turns than Supernatural usually gets. In fact, having now watched Vampire Diaries and The Originals, season 6 of SPN kind of echoes those shows. (I don’t think it’s coincidence that TVD aired its first season one year prior to this)

Instead of trying to outdo the literal devil (the mistake of latter seasons) we spend most of season 6 not knowing who the big bad is. We meet a few baddies, get backstabbed by former friends, and we’re told Raphael is a threat, but in the end the big bad was the friend we made along the way—Castiel. It’s depressing, it’s not what we expected, and it’s honestly a departure from “traditional” SPN. But I like it. I like it a lot. If Sera had been allowed to do more seasons like this, she probably would’ve stayed longer.

2 - Season 4

I love a lot of things about this season. The way they handled the angels was great—the right way to do unknowably powerful beings. I like Sam’s dark arc. It’s coupled perfectly with his good intentions and his all-consuming love for his brother. The plot twist at the end is perfect—Sam, in doing the right thing, unleashes the worst evil this world has (yet) known.

The tone is also perfect. It’s dark. A little edgier. Edging toward eldritch horror rather than ghost horror. Balanced out with light episodes that pack a hard punch in the feels regardless. And this is a little thing, but the color grading shifts back to more sepia after the technicolor of season 3. It gives us this little sense of dread throughout the season without even knowing why.

I could complain about the skewed POVs, about how fandom still sometimes crows “Dean was right about Lilith!” when all Dean opposed was Ruby and the demon blood—he wanted killed Lilith too. But as this instance of POV-warp serves the storyline in a good, necessary way, and Sam truly did need to be brought back from his dark path, I’m choosing to ignore it.

1 - Season 5

Are we surprised? Maybe some Sam fans are—I know some who get vexed about the blame for the apocalypse being solely and constantly placed on Sam...but I’m not. The overall story of season 5 is just so good. Lucifer is a good villain in this season. Sam and Dean have an excellent healing arc. The angels are good villains, also ironic mouthpieces of the overarching themes—despite touting “fate” and “unavoidable,” they are champions of free will, since they do whatever they want in their father’s absence. Zachariah most notably. Castiel was utilized in a good way (whereas now he struggles to still have purpose in the show) Bobby and Crowley both were good in this season (and also sparked a rarepair that’s—hilariously—canon) and this season did not pull any punches when it came to death. Even the main protagonists were shot point-blank halfway through the season! (Don’t talk to me about the samulet, I can’t do it without bawling)

And Swan Song remains my favorite season finale and overall episode. Dean relinquishing control of his little brother, allowing him to make the ultimate sacrifice for the sake of the world. I still halfway wish the series ended with Sam and Dean both throwing themselves into the Cage, destroying themselves for the world, out of love for each other. (insert “poetic cinema” meme)

And there we have it! To my mutuals, I’d love to hear your thoughts or your rankings. And to @letsgobethegoodguys - Steph, since this was so hard for you, I did it myself so I could feel your pain. 😘

#supernatural #through the seasons #spn #rankings #kylerrambles #listen—i welcome discussion!#pls talk to me!#but if you come on my post just to argue with me—don’t bother

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nibbler460 · 6 years ago

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The made up shit coming out of the JDS, Natalia, Jancy blogs that Dacre is racist and hates gays is just awful.

It seems that when any press event with Dacre Montgomery occurs, be it an award show appearance or this latest Funko Pop controversy, the worst is brought out from a subset of fans who are distilling their anger over perceived slights to their favorite character-actors.

This callout should not be conflated with negative opinions on Billy Hargrove—if you despise the character for being violent or having racist indicators, then that’s that. But learn to separate fiction from reality and stop projecting onto real people.

Believe it or not, the Stranger Things online community is not so big that between shared mutuals on twitter and tumblr, we can’t see the ugly memes and commentary that have circled around over the last six months.

We see the graphics you make on twitter showing Dacre bashing gays, or the joke that Dacre must greet Linnea Berthelsen with “Hello, Ni**er”.

Why anyone would make a joke like that is beyond me. Now you are casually promoting that the actor is racist or actively disliked by cast members.

I swear, you are the same fans who get angry if the media misrepresents Charlie in any way, particularly the incident at the airport.

And when it comes to justifying your remarks via Dacre thoughts on Billy, you are also the same group that will headcanon Jonathan’s voyeurism and picture-taking of Nancy as being motivated by ART. By your logic, those particular Jonathan and ‘Jancy’ blogs must advocate non-consensual acts against women and violations of privacy.

Or by that same logic, Cara Buono and Charlie must promote sex involving teens or minors as they both told Glamour and TV Guide respectively that they are excited to see where the flirtation goes and would love to see them hook up. So, when does cast commentary or perception on characters matter or is this just hypocrisy?

My current take on Billy Hargrove is not a flattering one. He seems to be every bit the monster S2 projects him to be, but I don’t pretend to have all the answers either. Producers have stated that Karen, Billy and Max were supposed to have a robust plot in S2, but their full exposition and storyline was pushed to S3 due to space. Does Dacre or Cara know something about their characters to imply a complexity in their actions or are they being obtuse/naive? Can’t say for sure, but I draw a line at making assumptions about real people based on the roles they play.

I hate when fandoms go this direction. You all are free to post whatever you want. I just think if you are going to have a double standard about the cast, might as well own it.

#dacre montgomery #billy hargrove #stranger things

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alemoncakelife · 7 years ago

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SANSA STARK WAS NOT A STUPID BRAT. HERE’S WHY

So I see this a lot where people tend to describe Sansa as ‘no longer being the stupid bratty child she was’ and of course they’re talking how she acted Season 1. Now, I will never dispute that Sansa Stark was naive, because every single child character in the series is naive. This is because they are children. However, I will argue against any statement that claims Sansa was ever a ‘brat’ or ‘stupid’, because it’s a terrible misinterpretation of her scenes. So just to be sure I was making a legit argument, I looked up the actual definitions of these words:

Now I’m going to argue why Sansa Stark is not - and never has been - these 2 things...

NOT A BRAT

Yes, Sansa is a child. She is 13 in the show. But she is renowned for being an exceptionally well behaved lady who prioritises manners. Take the scene where Sansa is trying to act like a real Southern Lady with Septa Mordane. She is trying to act like she is too grown up to need a Septa and ends up being rude, and she regrets it. This is her face after she says “Oh wait. I just realised. I don’t care.”

In this scene she is so clearly trying to imitate Cersei as she believes that this is how a true Queen should speak and act. This is naive of her. Yet when Septa tells her, “Now you are being rude” her expression changes to this:

It’s the face of a guilty girl!! She’s upset that someone finds her rude. She doesn’t want to be rude! She is just trying to prove to everyone that she would make a good Queen.

Also, this moment is literally Sansa at her worst, and it’s really nothing to hate her for. All she does is make some snarky remarks and regret them almost as soon as she makes them. Heck, if anyone is badly behaved it’s wild child Arya who physically attacks her sister in front of the royal family and stabs a table repeatedly with a knife when she’s angry. Yet Sansa seems to be the Stark Child referred to by fans as a brat?

A lot of people also criticise her for being spoiled and wanting to be Queen, which links to her supposedly bratty behaviour. This criticism seems to come from the scene with Catelyn where Sansa claims that marrying Joffrey is “The only thing I’ve ever wanted”.

I can understand why people would think this makes her spoiled. But in truth, all of the Stark children are spoiled. They are children to the most powerful family in the North and Cat and Ned are not strict with them imo. For example, when Catelyn sees Bran climbing she firmly tells him not to, but then when she sees he’s lying about obeying her, she just makes a joke out of it??! And when Arya uses a bow and arrow which goes against all her Septa’s efforts to make a Lady out of her, Ned simply applauds her. Ned also lets her keep Needle. For goodness sake they let their kids have direwolves for pets!! My point is, Ned and Cat seldom really say no to any of their children. So for Sansa to say it’s the only thing she ever wanted is actually pretty clever, because she knows that if she says that, they’ll probably say yes. (and they did.)

SIDE NOTE: It’s never the fault of a child if they are spoiled. It’s the fault of the parents. Charlie And The Chocolate Factory teaches us this. But Sansa is NO VERUCA!! A lot of fans say they don’t feel sorry for Sansa when she suffers because she was spoiled before. That was a part of her life that was caused by her parents. Not by her. And how does getting spoiled mean you deserve to be stripped, beaten and forced to stare upon your father’s rotting severed head? I can’t even use Google Maps to find logic for that.

There’s also a lot of hypocrisy by some fans as many hate Sansa for wanting to be Queen (for like 1 year) and hail Daenerys, Margaery and Cersei who devote their lives to gaining power and wearing crowns. Sansa’s reasons for wanting to be Queen are very different to the others however. Sansa Stark wanting to marry a Prince and be a Queen is not unlike a teenage girl today wanting to marry a famous footballer and be a WAG. It’s not a desire for political power and superiority. Sansa probably shares her ambitions with hundreds of other noble girls in Westeros. Her want to be Queen also never meant she wanted to betray her family, which is another common gripe some have with her. Sansa simply wants to spread her wings like any other teenager and fly out into the world and do well in the world. She believed that being Queen was the ultimate honour for a woman and she’d make her family proud of her! She acknowledges the power she could bring to her family if she were Queen. “He’d be the 2nd most powerful man in the kingdoms”. This is what she says about her father when she’s considering how she may be travelling South to marry Joffrey. If her want to be Queen was linked with a want to betray her family, she’d probably say something like, “I’d be marrying the most powerful man in the kingdoms.” yet she doesn’t say this, because she doesn’t want power for herself, but for her whole family. When her father was arrested, Sansa literally begs Joffrey to spare his life in front of the whole court which puts her at enormous risk of being charged with treason herself. In that moment, Joffrey could have easily charged her refused to make her a Queen. If Sansa truly put Queen Life above family, why would she risk lsoing that title to save her father? Notice that she only wrote that ‘treacherous’ letter to Robb because Cersei told her that the fate of her Father depended on her writing to Robb. That letter wasn’t Sansa taking the Lannister’s side, that was her saying what she had to say to keep Ned alive. I’m done with people suggesting she wasn’t loyal to her family from the start.

Now let’s talk about the importance of Cinnamon Roll/Direwolf Lady.

This is easily the most misinterpreted story and aspect of Sansa’s character EVER. Sansa loves Lady, just like all the other Stark’s love their wolves. Lady loves Sansa and the two have such a sweet, pure relationship and a bond that’s much deeper than Ned, Septa Mordane or anyone else for that matter can understand.

Lady was unfairly killed, and it was not Sansa Stark’s fault. This. Is. A. Fact. When asked by King Robert who was in the wrong (Joffrey/Arya) she takes nobody’s side. This is because Arya is her family and she won’t betray her, but Joffrey is her betrothed (and she’s seen his temper now) so she won’t betray him because it could lead to a lifetime of misery for her family. Either way, whoever side she would take would cause a massive problem somehow. She Sansa says “I don’t remember...I didn’t see”. Nobody suspects for a minute that Lady’s life has anything at all to do with this situation. So Sansa’s answer is not something that condemns her pet. It is then Cersei who suggests killing Lady as punishment for Nymeria’s attack which is ridiculous but Robert agrees and Ned fights against it pretty feebly. He could have followed him and pestered him to change his mind but nope. And Sansa puts up a FIGHT.

“No. Not Lady. Lady didn’t BITE ANYONE SHE’S GOOD!” is what Sansa yells at both Cersei AND Joffrey. This is very unusual behaviour for Sansa because until now she’s tried extra hard to get this pair to like her but now her direwolf’s life is about to be taken by them she is more than willing to snarl at them.

This isn’t bratty behaviour. This is a girl who doesn’t want her best friend wolf to die.

Then when Ned does kill Lady, however humanely, Sansa is rightfully furious with him for many episodes. Her coldness towards him isn’t unjustified. Imagine if your own dad killed your pet! You can’t tell me you wouldn’t be saltier than the Dead Sea about it for a long long time. It’s not like Ned just broke his daughter’s favourite toy. He took the life of a creature who had an almost spiritual connection to his child.

This is why Sansa doesn’t appreciate the doll Ned gets her. He tells her it’s made by the person that makes all of Princess Myrcella’s toys. But she doesn’t want to be like the little Princess. “I haven’t played with dolls since I was 8″. So that’s 5 years Ned hasn’t been paying attention. She doesn’t want to be a little girl anymore. She is due to be a Queen. She wants to be seen as an adult. It’s also a piss poor compensation for Lady’s life. A doll couldn’t make her feel safe. A doll is fragile and lifeless. If anything it just makes Sansa more sad. Yet she never threw a tantrum. She never wrecked the doll. She simply gave her dad an icy look and left the table. Need I mention that she didn’t leave the table without asking “May I be excused?” Wow. What a BRAT!! •rolls eyes so intensely people think I’m warging.*

So to conclude the section about Sansa being a brat. She isn’t. She’d be a brat if she was crying about not getting to eat lemon cakes in King’s Landing. She’d be a brat if she tore up her Northern dresses because they didn’t look as pretty as the Kings Landing Couture. But Sansa stark is courteous and dignified at almost every moment, even when she is angry or heartbroken. When she lashes out, it is not because of trivial things, it is because her innocent wolf was killed by the very Man she trusted most. Her unhappiness is more than understandable.

NOT STUPID

There are plenty of characters who call Sansa stupid, but that doesn’t mean they’re right. There is a difference between being naive to the world and just being downright dumb. Sansa is a very intelligent 13 year-old.

Many think that Sansa only got smart when Ned died or Littlefinger took her under his sleazy wing. I disagree. Sansa knew the role she had to play and she played it. So she learns that King Robert plans to wed her to his son. Then when Cersei summons her during the feast, Sansa smiles, makes eye contact, stands confidently and uses all her courtesies despite probably being nervous because she knows it’s important she builds a good relationship with the Royals. Sansa also keeps her cool around Joffrey. On the Kingsroad when he lashes out at her, she never again brings it up to him. She knows she’ll have a better relationship with him if she acts like the incident never happened, and since she’s going to be his wife for life at some point, it’s vital that they have a relationship that at least comes off as a good one.

Furthermore, Sansa is not a character that’s aware of the game of thrones. She’s ignorant to it. So it Arya. So is Joffrey. All the kids are ignorant to this game at the start. So it’s not like Sansa was the only one who doesn’t get how Kings Landing really works. Joffrey only learns to play it a little when Cersei attempts to teach him. “Everyone who isn’t us is an enemy.”

Sansa may not get the snaky side of the city. But she understands politics, and she knows her history. The scene in the throne room between her and Septa Mordane shows us that Sansa is smarter than anyone knows! She tells the Septa who built the iron throne and who built the Red Keep. But she surprises Septa by stating that her Grandfather and Uncle were murdered here by the Mad King. She also knows that there’s a lot of pressure on her to give birth to male heirs. She knows what may happen if she could only provide Joffrey with daughters. She knows her responsibilities and the stakes. A stupid girl would just be excited to be Queen, but Sansa is looking at all the possibilities and risks. Septa Mordane tries to protect her by avoiding discussion about the Mad King and what would happen if she only had girls. But Sansa pushes her to discuss it. If she was truly an idiot, she would let Septa tell her how great it will be when she sits by her husband’s side.

Then she tries to utilise the good relationship she’s built with Joffrey and Cersei to keep Ned alive.

This whole scene reinforces how smart she is!

First off, this is the most Southern she’s ever looked, this is because she knows that she needs to make the court believe she is loyal to the South and the Lannisters. She wears Joffrey’s pendant to remind him of her loyalty to him. She then drops to her knees to assure the King that she deeply respects him. It’s almost like she’s praying to him. She’s really appealing to his pride! Then she blames everyone who’s betrayed the crown for Ned’s treason. She implies that Renly or Stannis lied to him. She suggests that the milk of the poppy clouded his mind. She reminds everyone how loyal her Father was to Robert and how much he loved him. She says everything and anything that may deter her Father from truly being treasonous. This is one of the bravest, most intelligent things Sansa has ever done, and if Joffrey wasn’t so capricious, it would have saved her Father’s life.

A dumb girl wouldn’t have paid such close attention to her appearance and word choice. A dumb girl probably would have just believed that her dad was a traitor because a boy she fancied and a woman she idolised said so. But Sansa doesn’t believe them. She even asks to speak with him. The moment he’s arrested she constructs a plead for his life. If she was stupid, she wouldn’t even know how to do that.

So there we have it. A super long post about how I disagree with the notion that Sansa Stark has ever been a stupid brat. I see her as an intelligent child who knew what was expected of her and learnt all she could to best play her role in the world. She loved her family despite their quarrels and was and always will be loyal to them. And if you think I’m wrong, cool... and I guess the look she gives Joffrey after he kills Ned Stark means she still wants to be Queen and have his babies. #TRAITOR

#sansa stark #my opinion #game of thrones #gotsansastark #long post #just my feelings

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fem-mem-mine · 4 years ago

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There’s a curious new refrain on the right — the repurposing of an old slogan from their opponents in the abortion fight to explain why people shouldn’t have to wear masks during a pandemic. “I thought it was my body, my choice!” the young Trump supporter Charlie Kirk recently declared on his podcast, a few days before an 80-year-old mentor of his died of complications from Covid-19.

Those making this defiant act of appropriation seem to believe that it’s rhetorically formidable, cleverly deploying mask-wearing feminists’ words against them. But if you think about it for even a millisecond, the whole gambit falls apart. The new champions of bodily autonomy aren’t saying that women have any right to the phrase in its original context — only that men worried about looking “unmanly” in masks do. The anti-maskers are clinging to an argument that they insist is bogus. It’s a half-witted attempt at a classic reductio ad absurdum that’s oblivious to its own absurdity.

This example happened too late for the philosopher Kate Manne to include it in her new book, “Entitled,” but I can only imagine the alacrity with which she would have destroyed it. Only “destroyed” suggests something more reactive and less focused than Manne’s steady composure when she encounters a glaring hypocrisy or a casual double standard. She’s like a pathologist wielding a scalpel, methodically dissecting various specimens of muddled argument to reveal the diseased tissue inside. Her previous book, the revelatory “Down Girl,” treated misogyny not just as a psychological eruption of virulent woman-hating but as a more systematic, and more common, social force field and enforcement mechanism — a way to keep women in their place in a patriarchal world.

“Entitled” is like a companion volume to “Down Girl,” picking up some of the same examples — Elliot Rodger’s murderous 2014 rampage in Isla Vista, Calif., the 1938 play “Gas Light” (later adapted into British and American films), J.M. Coetzee’s novel “Disgrace” — to take a closer look at the psychological motivations that Manne had taken care not to accentuate in the earlier work. “This book shows that an illegitimate sense of male entitlement gives rise to a wide range of misogynistic behavior,” she writes in “Entitled.” “When a woman fails to give a man what he’s supposedly owed, she will often face punishment and reprisal.”

Manne begins with someone she deems the “picture of entitlement” — Brett Kavanaugh, seated before the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2018, as he contemptuously declaimed why he should become a Supreme Court justice. Christine Blasey Ford had calmly described her memories of Kavanaugh attacking her when they were teenagers at a house party; by comparison, Kavanaugh’s testimony was “borderline unhinged,” Manne writes.

Underlying Kavanaugh’s palpable fury (“red-faced, petulant”) was the premise that he was being unjustly deprived — not simply of a possible position on the Supreme Court but of the smooth confirmation hearing that he and his allies apparently believed he deserved. (Manne uses the word “himpathy” to describe the sympathy that gets extended to male perpetrators and withheld from their victims.)

The book goes on to parse the various “goods” that men, in Manne’s reckoning, have been conditioned to feel entitled to — admiration, sex and consent; a home where someone else uncomplainingly does most of the child care and housekeeping. Some of these things are “feminine-coded,” she writes; others, like power and knowledge, are typically reserved as a masculine prerogative.

Some forms of discrimination are subtle, operating below the level of our conscious thoughts, but they still exert meaningful effects, Manne says. The reflexive distaste or suspicion that greets any woman who asserts her ambition is in some ways just as indicative of how the social order gets preserved as the violence meted out by the most vicious misogynists.

There are plenty of privileged men in the book, but Manne is aware of her own privileged position, too. “As a cisgender, heterosexual white woman,” she hopes to shed some light on issues affecting transgender people and Black women without claiming be an authority. She explains why maternal care in the United States can be “comparatively good” for women like her, while Black woman are up to four times as likely as white women to die from pregnancy-related causes.

“In a white supremacist milieu,” Manne writes, “a pregnant white woman, who is (presumptively and, in many cases, actually) carrying a white baby has the keys to the kingdom in her uterus. Pregnant women of color, in contrast, may be perceived as dispensable, as disposable or even as threats to white supremacy.”

It’s a starkly worded assertion. One of the qualities that makes Manne’s writing bracing and even thrilling to read is her refusal to ingratiate herself by softening the edges of her resolve. She was trained as a logician, and in “Down Girl” she systematically laid out her premises and evidence to show how misogyny operated according to its own peculiar logic.

“Entitled” doesn’t feel as surprising or as tightly coiled as that book. In “Down Girl,” she offered a brilliantly original understanding of misogyny, a term that can sound too extreme to use, by showing the routine and banal forms that its hostility often took. The concepts of entitlement and privilege aren’t nearly as rare or mysterious; swaths of this new book are clarifying but also familiar.

Still, the subject of “Entitled” is trickier in many ways than the subject of “Down Girl.” Feelings of entitlement may be essential to misogyny — but Manne argues that they’re essential to defeating misogyny, too. She ends by writing about her newborn daughter, and the things that she wants her daughter to feel she deserves, which are necessarily connected to a set of moral obligations. This more reciprocal understanding of entitlement encourages us to think hard about what we owe, not just to ourselves but to one another.

#manne #kate

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callmederok · 6 years ago

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the lastest list of question: Number 5, 6, 17 and 18

Let’s hope i get it right…sorry for the bad english and enjoy ^_^

5. What’s your MC’s mental health like? How do they cope with the Vaults, were they ever in therapy? You can go deeper into their psychology here. Do they stim? Any comfort objects?

David is not alright, i always wanted a realistic/grey-ish hogwarts where character suffers like real people(because thanks other writers and artists HPHM looks like a party full of glitter and fun where traumas doesn’t exist, sorry guys that’s the impression i had reading other blogs about HPHM), something like The Witcher but with more introspections about what’s happen to the characters.(or at least this is what i like to think is happening to the characters)

After this premise/intro, i’m going to answer the question: David is a mess, physically and mentally, stress, traumas, ptsd, flaws that he always had(like a problem with anger management) and so on. He always was depressed for his own reasons(From the first year to the Third and a small part of the fourth year), after the fourth year he acts like a war-veteran but still forced to going to that place of war known as Hogwarts, he hates the school and the low-level security, the hypocrisy of Dumbledore and the teachers. More time spends at that schoold and more he adds weapons and protections under his clothes. Even talking about Hogwarts during holidays is an easy way to piss him off. so Yes, he need therapy or some peace for like a whole year at school so he could enjoy the stuff that the other students actually enjoy unlike him always dealing with the Vaults, R, Cabala, Rakepick, Merula and Jacob and their bullshits. In his mind David is the only one who can go face to face to Hogwarts’s problems, his friend are just a back-up, someone who helps him to stand up again and send him back to the frontline. Don’t get me wrong, he loves them but he doesn’t want put them in danger, he prefers suffer physically and mentally for them but because of that he wants to be alone in the frontline(it doesn’t happen usually but that’s the reason why David is soo obsessed with close-combat, he would be closer than his friends when some problems may happen). He is a nice guy, always ready to share a laugh or act like a big brother when he is prefect with Charlie, it’s anything related to the Vaults and his own name-curse(if you read when someone says “Jager” while he is listening he goes kinda homicidal against the most filthy thing around him, that thing may be Dark-wizards, Merula, werewolves, anything and anyone is harming his friends or himself) or bad rumors about his heritage(like an ancestor who was a Dark Wizard/Witch that would make Voldemort look like a kid during a tantrum). Soon as the problem with Vaults will be a problem solved, David would just takes a few months where he doesn’t even raise his wand or do his training-routine, not even for lessons. The most tiring thing he would do is thinking about puns and harmless jokes or dating Penny(in the AU where they date during their years in Hogwarts). So his mind is a mess but in a “give me some time to deal with my flaws and i’ll be okay” level. David just need some fun/chilling, someone who can just stay with him doing not-fighting/problem solving stuff like having a chat during a meal or reading some newspaper and doing some comments, because he is constantly on edge, like R(and anyone related to the Vaults) may attacks him in any moment of his life, so he needs to feel like no-one is going to create problems to him.

6. Ethnicity, race – and culture, understood broadly. Influences, practices, traditions. Tell us maybe about the superstitions, folklore etc that had a role in your MC’s life.

David and Jacob are half german and “half-whatever i didn’t decided it yet” (i mean to me nationality is just a meaningless concept because we are all born on Earth that is in the Milky Way, that it’s located in the Universe, nationality is only good for bureaucratic issues) with a Scottish Granfather…so what’s that? David/Jacob’s granfather(from father-side) is born in scotland(for some old man who probably was born also in Scotland) and he didn’t had a wife during one of his travels as a druid/factotum/FMA-alchemist, found a baby(David/Jacob’s father) in Germany so he assumed that the kid was an abandoned german kid. Then David’s father growing up in Scotland met Miss. Denneth(because David and Jacob’s father-side doesn’t have a surname, don’t have ID-cards so for the modern society Father and Granfather don’t exist, sorry for not being able to give them a name, i’m not sure what name i should give them, but for David and Jacob are always Pà and GranPà). so they both fell in love with each other, and soon enough Father would be the next Mr.Denneth and the new Mrs.Denneth will go crazy soon as Voldy will be around embracing the Denneth-heritage of pureblood supremacist, with a dark Wizard/Witch as ancestor and curse David whiles he is giving birth to him but she died before ending the curse. David and Jacob don’t have any will to seek their tradition, half of them are about a dark wizard/witch pureblood supremacist, the other half involves WW1 and WW2(and by extentions learning about Hitler, because…are only passed 40-45 years since WW2) so anyone they know, have their minds pretty much on that either culture, what Germany gave to the world(like art, music and etc). So they learned(during different times of their own lives, but only because they want to learn and be ready to deal with it). Thet both learned German and Latin(because FMA-alchemy is teached in Latin because it’s considered a dead branch of magic so don’t exist translated books about this art, unless someone actually write them or teach to someone bored to deal with Latin and force them to speak English coff coff Minerva during a punishment for David at the end of Third Year coff coff xD).

Influences, practices, traditions.

Father-side: Wizards are bad people who kidnap factotums and use them as guinea-pig for their crazy experiments(this things were told mostly to David because of his mother, so Dad didn’t want him to be involved with magic and he was trying and succed to brew fear about Magic into David). Wizards and Muggle are two different kind of cancer: The former hide lands and knowledge from the latter and the latter live like parasites destroying the terrestrial ecosystem (David/Jacob’s father words about Muggles and Wizards) How this had a role in David’s life? His first encounter with a witch(Minerva McGonagall, she found him when he was running away from home soon as his letter to hogwarts arrived and yet ) almost ended in a fight to the death where David was having a panic attack out of fear. David/Jacob’s father actually only to Jacob how to transmute stuff, David simply learned by reading books alone at home, mostly because soon as Jacob disappeared, Dad was always travelling searching for a way to save/find Jacob.

Mother-side: Factotums are muggles that use Earth’s mana to do their stuff, they shouldn’t be allowed either in Wizarding World because their art can be learned by anyone with some effort.

They don’t have superstitions i think..mostly influences that are going to be destroyed by attending Hogwarts….

17. Are they clean and orderly or do they live in trash? Give us some painterly descriptions.

As a matter of fact, David soon as he discoved Jacob’s room in Hogwarts, he will make that room his HQ, so he actually worked hard to keep it in order. More like a “Room for the David’s club” What is the David Club?A place where David pretty much does whatever he wants, to building pillow-forts, studying without being bored by Madame Pince or go hiking. Honorary Members: Everyone who defined theirself as friend of David(but they’re not forced to attend, mostly because David put their names in the form for creating the club without asking) David is obsessed with order, why? because since he heard someone saying “a room in order means a mind in order” so everytime David has a problem mentally challenging, he cleans, takes a broom and clean “there is no thinking in cleaning”(David’s words xD). Soon enough David transformed Jacob’s Room in a one-room-flat/apartment with new furnitures, a place where he can cook(it helps when he is angry or pissed off for some reason, because you must be patient while cooking like brewing potions but David has a talent for cooking instead of making potions xD)

18. Do they have any hobbies? From gardening to mechatronics, show us their pursuits – intellectual, artistic, practical.

Cooking food counts as an hobby? it’s more like “learning to be independent” but he enjoys making stuff and let his friends eat it. After that is pretty much listening and singing songs, reading comics, using divinations for funny business(like future-reading comics or listening music from the future) training and fighting are not hobbies because he is forced to deal with his need of being more powerful, to be stronger than his enemies(i think) he doesn’t do that for fun, but because in someway R is more present in his mind than every possible love interest…so yeah Cooking, Music and Comics…because he doesn’t have the time to have anything else(and he plays Quidditch for extra credits thanks to Minerva and her plan to keep David so busy to the point that he doesn’t deal with the Vaults…too bad this plan is not working…like at all)

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“Only write what you know” is very good advice. I do my best to stick to it. I wrote about gods and dreams and America because I knew about them. And I wrote about what it’s like to wander into Faerie because I knew about that. I wrote about living underneath London because I knew about that too. And I put people into the stories because I knew them: the ones with pumpkins for heads, and the serial killers with eyes for teeth, and the little chocolate people filled with raspberry cream and the rest of them. – Neil Gaiman

In a clutch or a corner, I tend to make a weapon out of what is near at hand. That can be anything from a crowbar to a cat, though if I had a choice, I would prefer an angry cat, which I have found to be more effective than a crowbar. Although weaponless, I left the house by the back door, with two chocolate-pumpkin cookies. It’s a tough world out there, and a man has to armor himself against it however he can. ~Odd Thomas – Dean Koontz

Ah! on Thanksgiving day, when from East and from West, From North and South, come the pilgrim and guest, When the gray-haired New Englander sees round his board The old broken links of affection restored, When the care-wearied man seeks his mother once more, And the worn matron smiles where the girl smiled before. What moistens the lips and what brightens the eye? What calls back the past, like the rich pumpkin pie? – John Greenleaf Whittier

And all Halloween candy pales next to candy corn, if only because candy corn used to appear, like the Great Pumpkin, solely on Halloween. – Rosecrans Baldwin

And I Jack, the Pumpkin King, have grown so tired of the same old thing. – Tim Burton

And so, Thanksgiving. Its the most amazing holiday. Just think about it — it’s a miracle that once a year so many millions of Americans sit down to exactly the same meal as one another, exactly the same meal they grew up eating, and exactly the same meal they ate a year earlier. The turkey. The sweet potatoes. The stuffing. The pumpkin pie. Is there anything else we all can agree so vehemently about? I don’t think so. – Nora Ephron

Asleep by the Smiths Vapour Trail by Ride Scarborough Fair by Simon & Garfunkel A Whiter Shade of Pale by Procol Harum Dear Prudence by the Beatles Gypsy by Suzanne Vega Nights in White Satin by the Moody Blues Daydream by Smashing Pumpkins Dusk by Genesis (before Phil Collins was even in the band!) MLK by U2 Blackbird by the Beatles Landslide by Fleetwood Mac Asleep by the Smiths (again!) -Charlie’s mixtape – Stephen Chbosky

At last, small witches, goblins, hags, And pirates armed with paper bags Their costumes hinged on safety pins, Go haunt a night of pumpkin grins. – John Updike

Autumn. Pretty leaves, pumpkin pie and sweaters. Perfect weather for reading. Winter is great but I hate shoveling. – Eden Robinson

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Boston: Their hotels are bad. Their pumpkin pies are delicious. Their poetry is not so good. Edgar Allan Poe

But see, in our open clearings, how golden the melons lie; Enrich them with sweets and spices, and give us the pumpkin-pie! – Margaret Junkin Preston

Dark furrow lines grid the snow, punctuated by orange abacus beads of pumpkins – now the crows own the field. – John J. Geddes

Dear Great Pumpkin, Halloween is now only a few days away. Children all over the world await you coming. When you rise out of the pumpkin patch that night, please remember I am your most loyal follower. Have a nice trip. Don’t forget to take out flight insurance. – Charles M. Schulz

Do not be small minded. Do not pray for gourds and pumpkins from God, when you should be asking for pure love and pure knowledge to dawn within every heart.- Ramakrishna

Each year, the Great Pumpkin rises out of the pumpkin patch that he thinks is the most sincere. He’s gotta pick this one. He’s got to. I don’t see how a pumpkin patch can be more sincere than this one. You can look around and there’s not a sign of hypocrisy. Nothing but sincerity as far as the eye can see.- Charles M. Schulz

Eighteen luscuios scrumpitous flavors, Chocolate,Lime and Cherry Coffee,Pumpkin, Fudge-Banana, Caramel Cream and boysenberry. Rocky Road and Toasted Almond, Butterscotch,Vanilla Dip, Butter Brinkle, Apple Ripple,Coconut,and Mocha Chip, Brandy Peach and Lemon Custard. Each scoop lovely.smooth and round. Tallest cream cone in town lying there on the ground. – Shel Silverstein

Eric followed Vlad Tepes’s stubby finger, identifying me as the future Happy Meal. Then he stared at Dracula, looking up from his kneeling position. I couldn’t read his face at all, and I felt a stirring of fear. What would Charlie Brown have done if the Great Pumpkin wanted to eat the little red-haired girl? – Charlaine Harris

Even the weather seemed to be celebrating; as June approached, the days became cloudless and sultry, and all anybody felt like doing was strolling onto the grounds and flopping down on the grass with several pints of iced pumpkin juice, perhaps playing a casual game of Gobstones or watching the giant squid propel itself dreamily across the surface of the lake. – J. K. Rowling

Even where the land was more receptive, settlers soon learned to take some precautions before planting their vegetables. Maize and pumpkin seeds were soaked in water for several days and then blackened with tar before planting – the most effective way to deter rats, mice and birds. Bee Dawson

Every woman needs secrets,’ her mother said with a smile then, her eyes meeting Sally’s in the rearview mirror. ‘Remember that when you’re old like me, pumpkin, because the world has a way of making a woman’s life everyone else’s business–you have to dig out a little place that’s only yours. – J. Courtney Sullivan

‘Good Morning America’ exploited Joan Lunden’s pregnancy, but you won’t see me bringing my babies on the air. The only reason I’m talking about the babies at all is that they’ve been with me on the show since I became pregnant. After a while, I had to acknowledge this pumpkin tummy. – Jane Pauley

He gave me a look sure to put frost on anyone’s pumpkin.- Charlaine Harris

I don’t believe pumpkin pie is even made from pumpkin. I mean, how can something that smells that shitty make a pie so sweet? There’s not enough sugar in the universe. – Lewis Black

I feel like Cinderella sitting in the middle of the road with a pumpkin and a couple of mice, while Prince Charming charges off to rescue some other chick. – Cynthia Hand

I get more out of life just being myself, by just being a human being. Not by being a rock star, not by being whatever. Sometimes I act like a jerk, but I think people respect me for being myself. That’s the ultimate thing about the Smashing Pumpkins. – Billy Corgan

I grew up in the ’80s and ’90s listening to Public Enemy and Mobb Deep and the Smashing Pumpkins. I don’t even know what it was like in the ’60s – I wasn’t alive then – so the Mayer Hawthorne sound is taking what I can learn from the classics, and blending it with my hip-hop DJ and producer background and punk-rock bands that I played in as a kid. – Mayer Hawthorne

I haven’t taken my Christmas lights down. They look so nice on the pumpkin. – Winston Spear

I idolised bands like Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins, who wanted to reach as many people as they could. Nate Ruess

I kept as still as I could. Nothing happened. I did not expect anything to happen. I was something that lay under the sun and felt it, like the pumpkins, and I did not want to be anything more. I was entirely happy. Perhaps we feel like that when we die and become a part of something entire, whether it is sun and air, or goodness and knowledge. At any rate, that is happiness; to be dissolved into something complete and great. When it comes to one, it comes as naturally as sleep. – Willa Cather

I like to make pies. Thats kind of my new obsession – peach, blueberry, apple, strawberry. I make a really good pumpkin pie with real pumpkin. – Morgan Saylor

I lost my virginity to a pumpkin when I was 23. Back then I was convinced I was actually a Vegetable, hell, that’s what the song is about. – Thom Yorke

I love the scents of winter! For me, it’s all about the feeling you get when you smell pumpkin spice, cinnamon, nutmeg, gingerbread and spruce. – Taylor Swift

I love the U.S. We came the first time in 2003, and it seems like we haven’t left since. James Iha from The Smashing Pumpkins came to Stockholm to see one of our shows, and he really fell in love with the band. He said, “I’m going to take you to America, I’m going to release you on my label.” When you’re in your early twenties and you get that kind of opportunity, you just gotta roll with it. – Maja Ivarsson

I mean you know at midnight everything is going to turn to pumpkins and mice; right? But if the evening goes along, I mean, you know, the guys look better all the time, the music sounds better, it’s more and more fun, you think why the hell should I leave at quarter of 12. I’ll leave at two minutes to 12. But the trouble is, there are no clocks on the wall. And everybody thinks they’re going to leave at two minutes to 12. – Warren Buffett

I never wanted to leave the Smashing Pumpkins. That was never the plan. – Billy Corgan

I represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic party. – Paul Wellstone

I saw thousands of pumpkins last night come floating in on the tide, bumping up against the rocks and rolling up on the beaches; it must be Halloween in the sea – Richard Brautigan

I see a girl caught in the remains of a holiday gone bad, with her flesh picked off day after day as the carcass dries out. The knife and fork are abviously middle-class sensibilities. The palm tree is a nice touch. A broken dream,perhaps? Plastic honeymoon, deserted island? Oh, If you put in a slice of pumpkin pie, it could be a desserted island! (Pg 64) -Laurie Halse Anderson

I sort of have a dark, twisted, offbeat way of writing, which I see coming up in my kids. It’s funny, on Halloween, one of my daughters said, “Halloween isn’t supposed to be happy, dad, it’s supposed to be dark. ” No smiling pumpkins at the Sixx household! – Nikki Sixx

I suppose I will die never knowing what pumpkin pie tastes like when you have room for it. – Robert Breault

I think people fetishize glasses in general. You could put glasses on a rotting pumpkin and people would think it was sexy. – Tina Fey

I was never able to get through Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. I’ve never been able to make it through. And I love the Smashing Pumpkins, they’re one of my favorite bands ever, but I’ve never been able to listen to the whole thing all the way through. – John Wozniak

I went to Floridita on Wardour Street when I was 18. All I could afford was pumpkin soup and a glass of champagne, but it was worth it. – Karen Gillan

I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself than be crowded on a velvet cushion. I would rather ride on earth in an ox cart, with a free circulation, than go to heaven in the fancy car of an excursion train and breathe a malaria all the way. Henry David Thoreau

I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion. – Henry David Thoreau

I’m half-Japanese, so I collect toys, like a Yayoi Kusama stuffed pumpkin. – Nicola Formichetti

I’m not sure I would label it a ‘survivor,'” said Iko, her sensor darkening with disgust. “It looks more like a rotting pumpkin. Marissa Meyer

In November, the smell of food is different. It is an orange smell. A squash and pumpkin smell. It tastes like cinnamon and can fill up a house in the morning, can pull everyone from bed in a fog. Food is better in November than any other time of the year. – Cynthia Rylant

In the lives of children, pumpkins turn into coaches, mice and rats turn into men. When we grow up, we realize it is far more common for men to turn into rats.- Gregory Maguire

Instead of doing cinnamon, nutmeg, and all those baking spices I’ll have one spice that’s for sweets, and that’s pumpkin pie spice. – Sandra Lee

Is there a short-eared koobish, then?’ Mmmyes …’ said J.Lo. ‘But it is technically not really a koobish. Is more alike a kind of singing pumpkin.’ We had conversations like these all the time, where I just eventually gave up. – Adam Rex

It looks more like a rotting pumpkin. – Marissa Meyer

It was time to take the pumpkin out of the pot and eat it. In the final analysis, that was what solved these big problems of life. You could think and think and get nowhere, but you still had to eat your pumpkin. That brought you down to earth. That gave you a reason for going on. Pumpkin. – Alexander McCall Smith

It’s midnight Cinderella, but don’t worry none. Cause I’m Peter the Pumpkin Eater and the party’s just begun. – Garth Brooks

Just wait and see, Charlie Brown. I’ll see the Great Pumpkin. I’ll SEE the Great Pumpkin! Just you wait, Charlie Brown. The Great Pumpkin will appear and I’ll be waiting for him. – Charles M. Schulz

Know what it is to be a child? It is to be something very different from the man of today. It is to have a spirit yet streaming from the waters of Baptism; it is to believe in belief; it is to be so little that elves can reach to whisper in your ear; it is to turn pumpkins into coaches, and mice into horses, lowness into loftiness, and nothing into everything, for each child had its fairy godmother in its soul. – Percy Bysshe Shelley

Lakes, June, Games

Like many indelible family memories, carving a pumpkin begins with someone grabbing a really sharp knife. – Dana Gould

Little brats yellin ‘Trick or Treat’ all through my screen door, When y’all should be at home sleep, Instead of at my front porch 15 deep. The jack o’ lantern came in handy… I can turn my porch light out like I ain’t got no candy. But ain’t that somethin? You buy a Halloween costume and a pumpkin, Almost gave your children a heart attack. It’s a tradition, but who the hell started that? Kam

Miraculously, smoke curled out of his own mouth, his nose, his ears, his eyes, as if his soul had been extinguished within his lungs at the very moment the sweet pumpkin gave up its incensed ghost. – Ray Bradbury

My father played guitar, so I always wanted to play for that reason. But I think the biggest reason was just the ’90s in general – growing up listening to the Smashing Pumpkins, Green Day and bands like that, and going to concerts and thinking it was the coolest thing in the world. – Jack Antonoff

My favorite word is ‘pumpkin.’ You can’t take it seriously. But you can’t ignore it, either. It takes ahold of your head and that’s it. You are a pumpkin. Or you are not. I am. – Harrison Salisbury

My kids just brought home a beautiful pumpkin, but you know what? I’m going to return it because it’s a Democratic pumpkin. It has the orange color of John Kerry’s tan, and the roundness of Teddy Kennedy. – Arnold Schwarzenegger

My most memorable meal is every Thanksgiving. I love the food: The turkey and stuffing; the sweet potatoes and rice, which come from my mother’s Southern heritage; the mashed potatoes, which come from my wife’s Midwestern roots; the Campbell’s green bean casserole; and of course, pumpkin pie. – Douglas Conant

October, baptize me with leaves! Swaddle me in corduroy and nurse me with split pea soup. October, tuck tiny candy bars in my pockets and carve my smile into a thousand pumpkins. O autumn! O teakettle! O grace! – Rainbow Rowell

Of the first achievements of the legislature was to institute a ten-thousand-dollar agricultural fair to show off forty dollars’ worth of pumpkins in – however, the territorial legislature was usually spoken of as the “asylum”. Mark Twain

On the moon we have everything. Lettuce, and pumpkin pie and Amanita phalloides. We have cat-furred plants and horses dancing with their wings. All the locks are solid and tight, and there are no ghosts. Shirley Jackson

Once a pumpkin, Always a pumpkin. – Billy Corgan

Pumpkin pie is a living symbol of mediocrity. The best pumpkin pie you ever ate wasn’t all that much different from the worst pumpkin pie you ever ate. – Garrison Keillor

Pumpkin spice lattes are egg nog for morning people. – John Oliver

Pumpkins are the only living organisms with triangle eyes. – Harland Williams

Raindrops the size of bullets thundered on the castle windows for days on end; the lake rose, the flower beds turned into muddy streams, and Hagrid’s pumpkins swelled to the size of garden sheds. – J. K. Rowling

Severus, please fetch me the strongest truth potion you posess, then go down to the kitchen and bring up the house elf called Winky. Minerva, kindly go down to Hagrids house where you will find a large black dog sitting in the pumpkin patch. Take the dog up to my office, tell him I will be with him shortly, then come back here. J. K. Rowling

She liked anything orange: leaves; some moons; marigolds; chrysanthemums; cheese; pumpkin, both in pie and out; orange juice; marmalade. Orange is bright and demanding. You can’t ignore orange things. She once saw an orange parrot in the pet store and had never wanted anything so much in her life. She would have named it Halloween and fed it butterscotch. Her mother said butterscotch would make a bird sick and, besides, the dog would certainly eat it up. September never spoke to the dog again — on principle. – Catherynne M. Valente

Smashing Pumpkins has never been a band about hit songs. – Billy Corgan

Some people are absolutely funny and you want to wish them Happy Thanksgiving in funniest way possible. Here is the list of Funny Thanksgiving sayings. Just chose the quote you want to wish that person. Vegetables are a must on a diet. I suggest carrot cake, zucchini bread and pumpkin pie. – Jim Davis

Sometimes I think that ideas float through the atmosphere like huge squishy pumpkins, waiting for heads to drop on. – Neil Gaiman

Thanksgiving is a magical time of year when families across the country join together to raise America’s obesity statistics. Personally, I love Thanksgiving traditions: watching football, making pumpkin pie, and saying the magic phrase that sends your aunt storming out of the dining room to sit in her car. – Stephen Colbert

The coach has turned into a pumpkin and the mice have all run away. – Lady Bird Johnson

The first real concert, other than going with my dad to see Three Dog Night, was Smashing Pumpkins and Garbage. I was fourteen or fifteen. I liked Shirley Manson because she reminded me of Annie Lennox. They both have these deep, sexy, powerful alto voices. – Amy Lee

The ideology of the Smashing Pumpkins was ultimately more valuable than the music of the Smashing Pumpkins. That’s what critics can’t put their finger on. – Billy Corgan

The mask can be a limitation, but you just deal with it. You do get superhuman strength and pumpkin bombs and all this other stuff to express yourself with.’ – Willem Dafoe

The mellow sweetness of pumpkin pie off a prison spoon is something you will never forget. – Mitchell Burgess

The near end of the street was rather dark and had mostly vegetable shops. Abundance of vegetables – piles of white and green fennel, like celery, and great sheaves of young, purplish, sea-dust-coloured artichokes . . . long strings of dried figs, mountains of big oranges, scarlet large peppers, a large slice of pumpkin, a great mass of colours and vegetable freshness. . . . D. H. Lawrence

The past was a consumable, subject to the national preference for familiar products. And history, in America, is a dish best served plain. The first course could include a dollop of Italian in 1492, but not Spanish spice or French sauce or too much Indian corn. Nothing too filling or fancy ahead of the turkey and pumpkin pie, just the way Grandma used to cook it. – Tony Horwitz

The Pumpkins love rock-and-roll, we absolutely love it, but we also think it’s a flatulent, ego-serving kiddie playground. You can have your cake and eat it too. – Billy Corgan

The Smashing Pumpkins was never meant to be a small band. It was going to either be a big band, or a no band. – Billy Corgan

The tree of nonsense is watered with error, and from its branches swing the pumpkins of disaster. – Nick Harkaway

The wind outside nested in each tree, prowled the sidewalks in invisible treads like unseen cats. Tom Skelton shivered. Anyone could see that the wind was a special wind this night, and the darkness took on a special feel because it was All Hallows’ Eve. Everything seemed cut from soft black velvet or gold or orange velvet. Smoke panted up out of a thousand chimneys like the plumes of funeral parades. From kitchen windows drifted two pumpkin smells: gourds being cut, pies being baked. – Ray Bradbury

The word ‘vegetable’ has no precise botanical meaning in reference to food plants, and we find that almost all parts of plants have been employed as vegetables – roots (carrot and beet), stems (Irish potato and asparagus), leaves (spinach and lettuce), leaf stalk (celery and Swiss chard), bracts (globe artichoke), flower stalks and buds (broccoli and cauliflower), fruits (tomato and squash), seeds (beans), and even the petals (Yucca and pumpkin).Charles Heiser

There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people…religion, politics and the Great Pumpkin! – Charles M. Schulz

This year I invested in pumpkins. They’ve been going up the whole month of October and I got a feeling they’re going to peak right around January. Then bang! That’s when I’ll cash in. – Homer

To be a textual critic requires aptitude for thinking and willingness to think; and though it also requires other things, those things are supplements and cannot be substitutes. Knowledge is good, method is good, but one thing beyond all others is necessary; and that is to have a head, not a pumpkin, on your shoulders and brains, not pudding, in your head. A. E. Housman

Way out in the country tonight he could smell the pumpkins ripening toward the knife and the triangle eye and the singeing candle. – Ray Bradbury

We fancy men are individuals; so are pumpkins; but every pumpkin in the field goes through every point of pumpkin history. – Ralph Waldo Emerson

Well, there doesn’t seem anything else for an ex-President to do but to go into the country and raise big pumpkins. – Chester A. Arthur

What moistens the lip and what brightens the eye? What calls back the past like the rich pumpkin pie? – John Greenleaf Whittier

What she did have were Bertie Bott’s Every Flavor Beans, Drooble’s Best Blowing Gum, Chocolate Frogs, Pumpkin Pasties, Cauldron Cakes, Licorice Wands, and a number of other strange things Harry had never seen in his life. – J. K. Rowling

When I had a job catering, I catered a wedding for the Smashing Pumpkins bassist in Indiana. And I served Billy Corgan shrimp off a tray. – Amy Poehler

When I lived in New York, there wasn’t as much TV or film around. I got asked to do a couple of indie films, just based on me being from The Smashing Pumpkins and A Perfect Circle. I did a couple of indie movies from Japan and one from Canada, and I thought it was an exciting, fun thing to do. I had a great time doing it, it was just that, in New York, there really wasn’t as much. My studio in New York closed, so I moved out to L.A. and just started looking into composing as another thing to do, as a musician. I like it a lot. It’s fun and it’s a different way of thinking about music. James Iha

When I was a kid, Halloween was strictly a starchy-vegetable-only holiday, with pumpkins and Indian corn on the front stoop; there was nothing electric, nothing inflatable, nothing with latex membranes or strobes. – Susan Orlean

When the Lord starts out to make an oak tree, he takes a hundred years to do it in, but he can make a pumpkin in 90 days. More or less life is like that. We must choose whether we desire to become and oak tree or a pumpkin. – Sterling W Sill

When white men first effect contact with some unspoilt race of savages, they offer them all kinds of benefits, from the light of the gospel to pumpkin pie. These, however, much as we may regret it, most savages receive with indifference. What they really value among the gifts that we bring to them is intoxicating liquor which enables them, for the first time in their lives, to have the illusion for a few brief moments that it is better to be alive than dead. – Bertrand Russell

Who are you writing to, Linus?” “This is the time of year to write to the Great Pumpkin. On Halloween Night, the Great Pumpkin rises out of his pumpkin patch and flies through the air with his bag of toys for all the children!” “You must be crazy! When are you going to stop believing in something that isn’t true?” “When *you* stop believing in that fellow with a red suit and the white beard who goes, ‘Ho, ho, ho!'” “We’re obviously separated by denominational differences. – Charles M. Schulz

Why are terms of endearment always food? Honey, cookie, sugar, pumpkin. Its not like caring about someone is enough to actually sustain you. – Jodi Picoult

With the garden I planted for the Reina Sofia, each plant related to different celebrations along the calendar – Christmas with evergreen trees, Valentine’s Day with roses, Halloween with pumpkins. All these symbols are so culturally loaded, but they are organic living entities – just like the fish in the tanks. They grow on their own. The symbolic ecosystem is growing without a narrative anymore. It’s a physical and mental landscape.- Pierre Huyghe

Women are like pumpkins; you search and search for the perfect one, bring it home, and the next thing you know, you’re looking for a knife. – Dana Gould

You could hollow out a big pumpkin and wear it on your head for the entire week of your birthday. This will allow you to get in touch with your Halloween emotions.- Jade Puget

You will never see the four original Pumpkins on stage ever again, unless it’s a Hall of Fame thing. But you would never see a tour. There’s so much damage, there’s no way. – Billy Corgan

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