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kafhimie · 2 years ago
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in an alternate universe
(bisexual fiona is real)
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forgotteneilionora · 5 months ago
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OOC | Astairan Wedding Traditions
ok so this is inspired by [ this ] post and these tags:
#ooo.... is handfasting a tradition in astairan weddings?#bc i could see#valentina malconaire objecting to this!#and then astairans not considering the eithne/cassimir union#as valid since it didn't happen#also its just a pretty tradition i love!
i loooove this!!!! both for the tradition and for the ~general vibes for astaira andddd for the plot point it could play!!!!! and i thought we might take this opportunity to talk about weddings in general -- i was literally reading up on traditional irish wedding vows just last night bc we were talking about domhnall's wedding etc!
i can also 100% see @forgottenvalentina specifically objecting to a tradition the astairans hold dear on ~roderick grounds or vice versa specificially w the hope itd invalidate the wedding too smdh so this verrrrrry much fits!
also the wedding vows:
[ “Ye are Blood of my Blood, and Bone of my Bone. I give ye my Body, that we Two might be One. I give ye my Spirit, `til our Life shall be Done. You cannot possess me for I belong to myself. But while we both wish it, I give you that which is mine to give You cannot command me, for I am a free person. But I shall serve you in those ways you require and the honeycomb will taste sweeter coming from my hand." ] “I vow you the first cut of my meat, the first sip of my wine, from this day it shall only your name I cry out in the night and into your eyes that I smile each morning; I shall be a shield for your back as you are for mine, never shall a grievous word be spoken about us, for our marriage is sacred between us and no stranger shall hear my grievance. Above and beyond this, I will cherish and honor you through this life and into the next." “I, (name), in the name of the spirit of God that resides within us all, by the life that courses within my blood and the love that resides within my heart, take thee (name) to my hand, my heart, and my spirit, to be my chosen one. To desire thee and be desired by thee, to possess thee, and be possessed by thee, without sin or shame, for naught can exist in the purity of my love for thee. I promise to love thee wholly and completely without restraint, in sickness and in health, in plenty and in poverty, in life and beyond, where we shall meet, remember, and love again. I shall not seek to change thee in any way. I shall respect thee, thy beliefs, thy people, and thy ways as I respect myself. By the power that Christ brought from heaven, mayst thou love me. As the sun follows its course, mayst thou follow me. As light to the eye, as bread to the hungry, as joy to the heart, May thy presence be with me, Oh one that I love, `til death comes to part us asunder. “We swear by peace and love to stand, Heart to heart and hand to hand. Mark, O Spirit, and hear us now, Confirming this our Sacred Vow.” “You are the star of each night, You are the brightness of every morning, You are the story of each guest, You are the report of every land. No evil shall befall you, on hill nor bank, In field or valley, on mountain or in glen. Neither above, nor below, neither in sea, Nor on shore, in skies above, Nor in the depths. You are the kernel of my heart, You are the face of my sun, You are the harp of my music, You are the crown of my company.” “Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Walk beside me and just be my friend.” “May the gentle breeze bear witness to this ritual, and carry its message to all lands. May the sun warm their hearts, and its ever burning fire fuel their desire for each other. May the water provide for them from its bounty, and comfort their souls with their sounds. May the land lend its strength and reveal its mysteries."
and like literally swearing by the breeze and the sun and water and land like????? if that aint so astairan!!!!!! there's def tons of other stuff but yeah
also apparently irish brides traditionally wore blue, back in the day, that were long and flowy w intricate embroidery, celtic knots, and a big sash or belt! often including a hooded cloak in weather!
she also traditionally has a handkerchief embroidered w like a motto or the couple's initials or an emblem or smth of significance to them, and then that's used as the bonnet for the firstborn child at their christening, and handed down to them to potentially use at their own wedding etc generation after generation
also the handfasting probs means that 'tying the knot' is an expression in astaira (that would baffle the varmonts too btw!) which is fun <3
[ Ever heard the phrase “your goose is cooked”? ] Traditionally, the night before the wedding, a goose would be cooked in the bride’s house for the groom’s wedding meal. When the meal was fully prepared, it would be seen as bad luck for life to back out of the wedding. So, the phrase, “your goose is cooked” pretty much means there’s no backing out now!
there's this thing w the child of progue that might be done w statues of the guardians?
[ This is a funny Irish wedding tradition. The child of Prague is a statue popularly known to ward off bad weather, which can rue the day. The figure is placed in different ways but performs the same function. ] Some parents leave their children in their hallway the night before a wedding. Others abandon their children outside, while some put the child out under a bush. In addition, people tend to behead the statue before placing it at the selected spot. The rationale is that the figures are not of the best quality. Their head usually fell off by themselves when left out overnight; hence, it was better off already beheaded. Some people even reattach it afterward.
guests have bells to ring ward off evil spirits and discord! they set to ringing them as the couple walks down the aisle and bells are sometimes included in the bride's bouquet
Weddings were civil, not religious, affairs. While some involved a vow of lifelong fidelity, that wasn’t universal. The ancient Celts recognized several types of marriage. And they also had very liberal divorce laws. They knew not all marriages would last, and they planned for it. In ancient Celtic traditions, one could opt for a one-year trial marriage. If all went well, they could take more permanent vows. If it didn’t work out, they each went their way, free to try again. Men and women enjoyed equal rights in the 1100s. Irish brides owned their property; if the marriage ended, they took it with them. They would also take a portion of any wealth the couple acquired together.
so yeah obv there's lots more these were just some things that jumped out at me after a cursory review that felt astairan for one reason or another <3
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tequilaasquared · 7 months ago
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God the fact that we were meant to fully take Fiona’s side during her whole ‘independent Fiona’ phase in s7 pisses me off. Asking the family that she CHOSE to become legal guardian of to put her at the bottom of their emergency contact lists, (underneath a couple with small children and a business who was unrelated to them, and their bipolar brother who had a super high pressure and high responsibility job) was completely unfair and irresponsible frankly. And doing it after she’d been called to Ian’s work as his emergency contact because he was clearly dealing with hypomania and his colleagues were concerned just felt like an extra twist of the knife. But I understood her reasoning to an extent.
But threatening to make her underage sister and her baby niece homeless because she was still pissed a traumatised 14 year old decided having a baby was the only way to become a part of a stable family environment? That was just plain cruel. Fiona didn’t have to be happy or agree with Debbie, and was well within her right to let Debbie know her disappointment and frustration, but she was still her legal guardian and she knew better! She was an adult and Debbie was a child being threatened with homelessness by the woman that raised her. Demanding Debbie get a job and getting her the application and Debbie following through and going to the interview, only for Fiona to actively sabotage it bringing Franny mid way through her interview was cruel and so unFiona like. Fiona was a grown ass 27 year old and should’ve sat Debbie down to communicate with her. I get that Debbie could be petulant and argumentative but she was a literal child! Fiona should’ve put her foot down and demand Debbie discuss with her how best to organise balancing work with childcare instead of offering zero support. She also lived with 3 brothers old enough to babysit Franny from time to time whilst Debbie worked. One of the overarching themes of Shameless was how the Gallaghers literally raised each other because their parents were awful human beings and you’re telling me Franny’s uncles couldn’t look after her for a few hours a week? It frustrates the shit out of me that the narrative successively villainised a young, impressionable girl because she made stupid decisions, influenced by grooming and the toxicity of her home life and her friends. And her following through with the decision to have a baby was further cemented by her sister’s cruel ultimatum and her only actual support at the time coming from her narcissistic, opportunistic father who used her vulnerability for his own gain.
Fiona was let down and emotionally neglected by Monica and she participated in that cycle of abuse with her pettiness towards Debbie. And I say that as someone whose favourite character for most of Shameless’ run was Fiona.
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dostarve · 2 months ago
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MPHFPC as some random pick up lines from Matt Rose’s “Predictive text does pick-up lines” video
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yaoibriar · 3 months ago
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OMG U SHIP YURIONA??!? less goo finally someone on this site who appreciates these two loyal idiots!! (affectionate ofc lmao)
can u draw them, like, doing literally anything fluff and wholesome as hell?? (bonus give them a sprinkle of angst hehe) lmao
is this anything
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swiftfootedachilles · 5 months ago
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im just gonna be honest gang obviously its gonna be easy for you to say youre in love with a character and theyre an angel when anytime they do something you don't like you brush it off as out of character
#bad writing is still canon unfortunately#the place where i absolutely draw the line is gallavich being verse don't fucking piss me off @shameless writers#unfortunately your fav characters did do and say those bad things..... and to ignore that is too fundamentally misunderstand their character#how can you love a person when you choose to be blind to who they are </3#this isn't directed toward anybody y'all are just being very dramatic lately and really i think we should remember that tv shows aren't real#i can recognize when someone is caused by bad writing but i still have to accept that it's a real thing that happened#like. do i find shameless entertaining? YES! is it well written? FUCK NO#it's actually fundamentally a bad show in many ways. but that's WHY i enjoy discussing it#it's why my hyperfixation hasn't died down. because theres just SO MUCH to pick apart and interpret and discuss!#it's actually so bad at times i blocked it out of my memory!#but if i believe something isn't canon or *shouldn't be canon* (HUGE difference between those 2 things)#then i should explain why i think that. and i also need to accept that others disagree#but if you say everything you don't like is just ooc bad writing and therefore not real to canon then#....lol what are you even doing here#like. we should be rallying against the writers for being actively racist homophobic transphobic fatphobic ableist etc#yet we're sitting here with our thumbs up our asses fighting about which character fanclub is the most oppressed#WHO CARESSSSS JOHN WELLS DOESN'T CARE ABOUT US IT TRULY ISN'T WORTH WASTING YOUR BREATH OVER#i just want to read about 2 toxic kinky boys kissing idk#let me say this tho! hardcore fiona stans you gotta be the most out of touch people on planet earth!#okay goodnight everypony#wall of text in the tags#a.txt
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d-c-k-y · 11 months ago
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Scarab enjoyers:-
It has came to me in a dream that his human form wore a green and yellow lingerie
I can die happy now
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prodigum · 4 months ago
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+ added mr. darcy, duncan from dragon age, fiona gallagher, and baela as test muses, added some muses pages to make some test muses permanent.
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cherry-treelane · 2 months ago
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everytime i feel bad and stressed about my life i remember that i might be in a troubling situation and having a bad time but im not season 4 fiona gallagher in the clink after leaving crack on the counter which my 3 year old baby brother happened to ingest resulting in a fatal near-death experience thats wracked me with never-ending guilt and forever altered my life
#this storyline was stupid you expect me to believe two-apples-tall liam gallagher came close to the crack AND managed to ingest it?#the crack which is lined up on the kitchen counter?#Also i don't believe that fiona would be irresponsible enough for liam to have been able to be close to the crack#that was an ooc moment and not like “its ooc cause thats the point shes going thru a tough time”#morelike “so ooc that it seems like a discrepancy that was overlooked for the sake of drama and shock value#as an older sister i feel like being watchful of your younger sibling if crack is in their general vicinity is an unstoppable instinct#its just not a plausible situation sorry like this is coming from someone who wholeheartedly embraces the realistic idea#of fiona falling short sometimes and being very human by struggling to consistently maintain her doting attentiveness#but anyways it's complicated cause Fiona clearly put it somewhere he cant reach#so how did he get access to it????#its like getting mad at a parent for putting a glass of wine on the counter#not comparing that to literal cocaine obviously this whole situation was nonetheless messed up#but just for some perspective... the writers were clearly doing cocaine themselves if they thought that#liam was bungee-jumping onto the counter and showing off his skills as an apparent budding olympics gymnast#not justifying anything but. listen.#the fact that it was on the counter FOR A REASONNN shows that fiona was careful to keep it out of reach and NOT do something insane like#putting it on the table#liam somehow magically having access to it defeats the purpose of it being on the counter.#if they really wanted for it to be believable that liam managed to snort it they should've put it on the table#but we already know that situation wouldn't be believable in its entirety cause we know that fiona would literally never leave it there#WHICH IS MY POINT. LIKE THIS SITUATION IS JUST ANNOYINGLY UNBELIEVABLE. FIONA WOULD NOT DO THIS AND HOW DID LIAM EVEN GET TO IT??#theres like 39482939 overlooked discrepancies just for the sake of getting to the shock#just to circle back Fiona would literally never let liam go near crack no matter how far gone and fucked up she was#I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I AM AN OLDER SISTER.#its just so UGHHHHH anyways obviously i still think in canon yeah Fiona was at fault shouldve been more careful and watchful#no matter how you look at it its clear that a risk like this just cannot be taken and she had to be blamed to an extent#but me personally? i reject it because it didnt feel natural to me at all there were 394939 other ways to frame a Fiona downfall#And i loved all the other ways her spiral was shown like getting messed up and ending up in Sheboygan#all the shit she got into with robbie + the impulsive urge to ruin the good thing she had going with mike#so human and believable and deeply flawed unlike the liam situation which was horrifically OOC and unrealistic
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forgottencormac · 6 months ago
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OOC | Cormac & Fiona
hey, sis!!! cormac isn't a big fan of how fiona doubts his abilities bc look what a great job he's doing now that he's in charge of nothing and effectively living on the charity of someone they'd never met before!!!!!!!! cormac has no idea wwhat she's complaining about just that some ppl can never be satisfied!!!!!!
no, but as frustrated as he is w his sisters (well, eabha and fiona, anyway!), he does love his fam v much and honestly its mostly his severe daddy issues and unbridled arrogance getting in the way, alas alksdjflkdsjfkjdsf he does ~def think, now, that he was always justified in being arrogant bc its been borne out (aka decreed by roderick!!) that men are smarter than women and should be in charge of everything so!!! that's fun!!! lakdsjfkljdsf and i am v sorry about him aklsjfklsjdf
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m4ndysk4nkovich · 10 months ago
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i really want people to realize that i don’t hate lip or fiona because i think people may be starting to think that. lip’s my third favorite gallagher, i don’t like his actions and i personally believe he’s a misogynist but he is also one of the best written characters on the show
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heroesvow · 2 months ago
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until jesse williams gets his ass in a period piece or i find another biracial actor to use, i will continue to use this man as alistair all while being iconless lol
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forgottenaine · 4 months ago
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ooc | Aine & Fiona
When Fiona was born, Aine was so excited to be a big sister!!! She was still little, herself, but even at that age I feel like she felt a responsibility to Fiona and wanted to be as good of a sister to Fiona was Eabha had been to her, y'know?
Aine absolutely adores her!!! Her spirit!! Her sense of justice!! Even her sense of adventure (which, at times, gives Aine a bit of a heart attack ngl!)
I do think she was probably always a little over protective of the twins, because they were just always "the babies" to everyone, but especially to Aine because they are her only younger siblings. I feel like she'd worry a lot about them and might be a bit of a killjoy sometimes if she ever stumbled upon them in the middle of some scheme and she'd try to get them to stop!!!
(That being said, I do think Aine always did enjoy hearing their stories after the fact, when everyone was home safe and sound and no real trouble was done -- but she'd still make them promise never to do anything like that again!!! [spoiler alert: the next day they both did something just as stupid ;D])
I also feel like Clea has really taken to Fiona and often tots around after her and I think Aine already recognizes similar traits between them and kinda knows that she is in for a headache when Clea gets older (I feel like Clea is gonna be some weird combo of Fiona/Rosie/Cassandra when she gets older and it will just be a disaster!!), but she also kinda loves that she can see so much of Fiona in her already, too <333
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lupeloto · 1 year ago
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the gallaghers + a haunted house 🧟
fiona: kinda acts like a middle aged mom…so theatrical about everything…will absolutely yelp any time someone brushes past her. one of those people who screams in the face of the teenager who is just a staff member that stands in the house to direct people where to go. clings on to ian or lip for dear life.
lip: totally lame about it and doesn’t want to go but everyone practically forces him to. almost squares up with some of the scare actors but overall isnt spooked easily
mickey: “dare one of those motherfuckers to pop out at me” claims he won’t get scared. he goes ahead of everybody and hides, jumping out at ian the minute he steps foot in the house. legitimately ends up punching one of the scare actors while ian profusely apologizes. goes home and tells franny about how much of a scaredy-cat her uncle ian was.
ian: makes fun of fiona for screaming and then immediately jumps out of his skin when the same guy pops up behind him. tries to act macho but lowkey clings to mickey for dear life after punching him in the arm and reprimanding for jumping out at him
carl: terrorizes everybody and recruits mickey to help scare everyone else. targets fiona, walking ahead of her and popping out every chance he gets. she smacks him profusely everytime but it never gets old to him.
debbie: it was her and sandy’s idea to go. she is pretty easily spooked and just wrapped around sandy the entire time, smacking carl on the shoulder every time he pulls some shit and shoving everyone with a “move your asses!” everytime she gets scared/someone pops up behind her
liam: loves it, advocating for the rights of scare actors and emphasizing how difficult their jobs actually are; appreciating the art of it all; gets spooked quite a bit but ultimately had a great time as kip’s hands are in his shoulders the whole time guding him through
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forgottenfinnegan · 5 months ago
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ooc | Finn & Fiona
Finn spends a lot of time complaining about his siblings, and I feel like he probably complains the most about Fiona (because he loves her best). To the point, honestly, when no one (probably least of all Fiona) takes him seriously when he does lmao
Some of Finn's favorite sayings:
No, I don't want to do that (does it)
I will absolutely not agree to that! (agrees to it)
Remember how much of a headache it was last time we did that? (he does ... agrees to it a second time, anyway)
Finn's main reason for being stubborn when it comes to following Fiona anyway is that, tbh, he's kinda lazy?? Finn's perfect schedule would allow for him to sleep in until at least noon and then laze about until four or five, afterwhich he would finally get dressed, eat something, and then head out to a tavern where he could drink and flirt and gamble and stay up until all hours of the night, returning home just after sunrise, when he could do it all again.
I feel like Fiona's perfect day is probably much more active (and productive) and Finn doesn't want to get pulled from his bed to go down to the beach or putting in all the time and effort in pulling some elaborate prank on Cormac. And yeah, FInn is just ~exhausted~ by Fiona half the time (who I feel like always has lots of energy??!)
BUT as much as Finn complains about her and just wants her to leave him alone, she's also his favorite person in the world/literally his other half and when he DOES get a day's peace away from her, he misses her terribly and is half depressed about it and mopes about but has a list of reasons that do NOT involve Fiona as to why he's having a bad day.
You won't hear him say it, but Fiona literally is everything to him and he wouldn't trade their shenanigans for anything!! (Don't let him fool you, he might complain a LOT about how Fiona got him ~roped into being in the resistance~ but he also is lowkey proud of that, too!!)
Also, I feel like I read somewhere that you said that Fiona is pretty good w/ a sword and has gotten her brother out of some scrapes before??? Which I feel is COMPLETELY true!! Finn is a pretty good gambler and he is smart about it, but there is still a lot of luck involved and he's been on the wrong end of bets gone wrong and ngl he's also tried to hustle people one just ... should nOT try to hustle and he's gotten himself into some really bad scrapes before and has literally needed his younger sister to help him fight his way out #facepalm (he does not acknowledge this btw). I also think that FIona is probably a better swordsmen than he is hahaha (something else he doesn't acknowledge)
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forgottenciara · 5 months ago
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ooc | Ciara & Fiona
Cousin! <33
So Kate AA had suggested that perhaps Ciara & Eabha had been pen pals and written to each other while growing up? And I can see where Ciara would have done the same thing with both Aine and Fiona?? (probably not Finn so much who is too lazy to write to a cousin he's only met like once alkdjflasjf and idk about Cormac?)
I'm not sure they saw much of each other, in person, though growing up since Ciara's mom died when she was born and her dad was often following Roderick around on his various conquests, but I do think that they came and visited them, at least once, when they were pretty young?
Ciara loves her cousins so much!! And honestly she definitely always wanted to be able to spend actual time with them, but this never really was what she envisioned??? I do think she feels a little awkward, too, that they have been displaced and she's gonna go live in their home when she marries Godfrey??? Honestly, I think she wouldn't be on board w/ it at all, except that she knows that Roderick would never give it back to Eabha and Ciara feels she knows Godfrey well enough to know that he will definitely take care of it/the people there and she really can't say as much for anyone else Roderick would put in charge??? So yeah.
But she does mean to care for it as best as she can when she becomes its mistress and would take Eabha's advise as law, pretty much, but she knows it still feels like she's kinda displacing her and she's not really cool w/ that but here we are???
Anyway, I'm not sure how Fiona would feel about all of this but Ciara would still try to make their relationship work!! Not sure if Fiona would have felt like Ciara is too much aligned with the enemy or not when she first arrived, but I feel like finding out that she's in the resistance when she and Finn joined would have potentially eased those fears if she had any????
Finn and Fiona joining the resistance has also definitely complicated Ciara's situation, too, haha, and I think will be a huge block in cementing her loyalties to the Astairan cause since now she literally has family fighting on both sides and whatever happens, someone she loves is gonna get hurt and she's starting to realize that Eilia is just so much better suited for this than Roderick (#sorryvarmontfam)
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