#odysseus the man that you are
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Literally I will never be fucking normal about odysseus or his voice I am actually so down awful for him it’s really embarrassing
“The siren’s blasted song…”
HMGNMMHNGNGNHGNGNHNGNGNHNMGNMG SIR SIR PLEASE SIR PLEASE PLEASE SIR I AM BEGGING SIR PLEASE
#lord help me#why is his voice LIKE THAT#why would they do this to me in particular#I’m so insane about him I’ll never shut up about him#please I can’t be alone in this#odysseus the man that you are#hades 2#hades ii#odysseus hades
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I don’t think you guys understand, I’m addicted to Six Hundred Strike. It’s the only thing I can listen to. I want this song injected into my veins, burned behind my eyelids, imprinted onto my brain. I don’t want to hear anybody talking about anything except this song. I’m literally obsessed
#how will you sleep at night#next to my WIFE#Odysseus the man that you are#literally foaming at the mouth#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#jorge rivera herrans#odysseus
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so how about that theory that Odysseus' red eyes in Six Hundred Strike mean Ares is helping him out on behalf of Athena, huh?
#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#epic ares#epic odysseus#idk man this popped into my head like a quick thought#and a vision#ares went to athena and said “sorry dad beat you up do you want me to help your guy out?”
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Zeus all arrogant: My oh my brother, all that work to get revenge on the mortal, and he beats you?You must feel so ashamed���
Poseidon, still bleeding profusely and literally vibrating from horniness: Do you think if I kill his son he’ll do it again?
#There’s something so homperotic about getting stabbed by the man youve obsessed on for years with your own weapon as you beg him to stop#You know what they say#Gay people can never have a normal divorce#anyways masochist Poseidon ftw!!!#epic the musical#the vengeance saga#epic the vengeance saga#epic odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#Poseidon#epic poseidon#Zeus#Epic Zeus#tagamemnon#Odyseidon#Manwhore au#not like technically but I’m tagging it so people who don’t wanna see this shit can filter it out lol
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after six hundred strike
*odysseus and poseidon are both still on the rocks in the middle of the sea*
odysseus: ok, let's just agree to both say we're sorry
odysseus: on the count of three
odysseus: one..two..three
poseidon:
odysseus:
odysseus: see, now i'm just disappointed in the both of us
#odysseus: listen man... i just need a way to cross the rest of the water#odysseus: then we never have to interact again#poseidon: *still full of holes and bleeding* do i look like a joke to you?#listen ody's raft was destroyed by poseidon/the storm#the storm may be gone#but he still needs to cross the rest of the waters to ithaca#so what better way than the god of the seas?#even if you did just stab him repeatedly with his own trident#poseidon epic#poseidon#odysseus epic#odysseus#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#epic: the musical#six hundred strike
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The past Friend Reveal :
For @autisticgremllin
#Finally found the time to digitalize my sketch of this! :D#hope you like it#Rip telemachus#The lungs on Odysseus could kill a man#epic fanart#epic the musical#epic the musical fanart#fanart#my fanart#epic musical#epic odysseus#jorge rivera herrans#epic#epic the wisdom saga#epic the vengeance saga#epic telemachus#epic athena#odysseus fanart#odysseus epic#telemachus epic the musical#athena fanart#telemachus fanart#epic fan comic#epic fandom#Nyssa#Nyssa's art tag#odysseus and telemachus#odysseus and athena#athena and telemachus#athena and odysseus
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okay so I was doing a Research™️ about ancient Greek etymology as one does and I found some Things that made me want to Violently Claw My Arms Off please allow me to force feed you my discoveries
So there are 2 words for "not" in ancient Greek, depending on the context: ou and mē. Having introduced himself in the Cyclops episode as " ou tis", or No-man, he then stabs Polyphemus in the eye. When Polyphemus' brothers come to check on him, they say this:
"... surely no man [mē tis] is carrying off your sheep? Surely no man [mē tis] is trying to kill you either by fraud or by force?"
Right after this, after the other cyclopes ditch Polyphemus, Odysseus's inner monologue goes something like this:
"Then they went away, and I laughed inwardly at the success of my clever strategem [metis]." (pronounced mEH-Tis)
Now, there's a difference between mē tis and metis. [mē tis] (pronounced mEH-Tis with a space between the syllables) is the literal translation for "no man". Metis is a word for extreme intelligence/cunning, which is something Odysseus is famous for.
Now, there are several examples of abuse of metis/intelligence in the Odyssey, but I think the juxtaposition between [mē tis], or the concept of anonymity, and metis, or extreme intelligence, is REALLY interesting. Odysseus's adoption of the title "No-man" was characteristic of metis--it was a really smart move that simultaneously hid him from the cyclops and avoided any future consequences. It was a highly effective strategy all wrapped up in a nest little package with a bow on it.
But when he revealed himself as Odysseus of Ithaca, effectively throwing off No-man (anonymity and [mē tis]), that was characterized as idiocy--he's essentially doxxed himself, and now he's doing to (spoiler alert) get tossed around the Mediterranean by Poseidon for the next 10 years.
This is really interesting because it lets you see the parallels/codependency between metis(intelligence) and humility. When Odysseus refused to allow himself to go unnoticed (hubris) he suffered for it. BUT when he declined instant glory/satisfaction (kleos) in order to achieve the long term goal of survival, he was rewarded with Athena's favor (pay attention. This part is important).
And this situation repeats itself MULTIPLE TIMES in the Odyssey--the EXACT SAME THING happens near the end of the book, with the suitors. When. Odysseus is dressed as a beggar and the suitors/Antinious are abusing him, he ACTIVELY CHOOSES not to react--he doesn't stand up and rip off his disguise and start hollering "TIS I, ODYSSEUS OF ITHACA! FEAR MY WRATH"
No. He sits there patiently and waits. He plans and schemes and quietly orchestrates their downfall without alerting them of it. Why? Because he learned his lesson the first time this happened. He buried his rage and adopted what was, according to Grace LA Franz, a more feminine form of metis, weaving a web of destruction for his enemies that ultimately resulted in their total annihilation (see Weaving a Way to Nostos: Odysseus and Feminine Metis in the Odyssey by Grace LaFranz). His patience allowed him to win the whole prize--no questions asked, no 10-year-long-business-trip strings attached--just the sweetness of a full victory. And he is, once again, rewarded with Athena's favor--both in the battle with the suitors and in the aftermath (cleanup/reuniting with Penelope).
This really reinforces the idea in the Odyssey that Odysseus's defining characteristic is not just his intelligence--it's his ability to learn from his mistakes. He used what he learned at the Lotus Eaters Island against Polyphemus--the Lotus Eaters drugged his men, so he drugged Polyphemus. He used what he learned from Circe and Polyphemus against the suitors--Circe used false sweetness and honeyed words to lure his men into a trap, so that's exactly what he did to the suitors. His hubris on Polyphemus' island cost his whole crew their lives, so he intentionally left well enough alone until the right time. He didn't just learn from his failures--he turned them into BATTLE STRATEGY.
i don't care what anyone says that is completely totally and objectively awesome
#Odysseus is a certified baddie 112% of the time#he's literally the coolest you can't convince me otherwise#there's a reason that literally everyone has a crush on him#even the lesbians#its the wordplay. his words#read me a poem in iambic pentameter you bloody stinky man#literally everyone: his sad wet vibes and dark undereye circles have captivated me entirely#odysseus#the odyssey#tagamemnon#odysseus x penelope#telemachus#epic the musical#the cyclops saga#odysseus of ithaca#poseidon#etymology#ancient greece#ancient history
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congratulations old man
#he saw the land he saw the sea and now he saw the sky. truly a man.#you're not going home anytime soon are you 😔#odysseus
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“Though I never thought that it would come to this…”
#tagamemnon#epic the musical#the odyssey#greek mythology#epic the musical fanart#penelope of ithaca#penelope#odypen#a huge thanks to everyone who helped me decide on her ear type on my poll#i honestly wasn’t sure how webbed ears would turn out#but I’m happy with the result#and i hope y’all like it too#PENELOPE IS WAITING ODYSSEUS#SOMEONE GET THE MAN HOME#also do you guys think i should change her jewelry from gold to silver?? but i didn’t want her to seem too similar in color scheme to athena#i dunno
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Tiresias: I see a man who gets to make it home alive but it’s no longer you… I see your wife standing with a man hunting
Odysseus: what if i became the monster.
#epic the musical#epic the underworld saga#jay rivera herrans#no longer you slaps#not to be hubristic but that man was definitely blessed by Apollo#mason oshlavskys amazing#homer#the odyssey#Odysseus#meme#Greek mythology
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‘Poseidon left a party in Ethiopia because the sea vibes went rancid after Odysseus set sail’ feels like a bit I would make up, but no. That actually happened.
#poorly drawn odyssey#the odyssey#poseidon#odysseus#Continuing my running theme of bird gods - Poseidon is an albatross!#Following the whole theme of sailor’s superstitions - one must never hurt an albatross. Lest misfortune be upon ye.#This comic was a lot funnier in my head (though that might be attributed to the fact I’ve had so little time to draw lately -#So all my comics take a a few days to finish... I have more time to get pessimistic and weary of the joke not landing.)#But I hope fellow Odyssey fans can appreciate my vision for a critically underrated scene.#I am once again here to let all those uninitiated know about how funny the Odyssey is.#Poseidon flung himself from Ethiopia to the Mediterranean sea to vibe check a shriveled sobbing man.#Now *that’s* what I call petty bitch behaviour.#I will be back with more comics - ones that are a lot funnier than this one.#Nausicaa's scene is next. If you know you know.#(Thank you again to everyone who chimed in to let me know there *was* overlap and an interest in me posting more Odessey comics!)
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Hunger is so heavy...
#eurylochus#eurylocus epic#artists on tumblr#fanart#epic the musical#the odyssey#greek mythology#homeric epics#epic the thunder saga#btw i am the number one eurylochus defender#every character in epic is morally grey and if you can excuse what odysseus does you CANNOT hate on this man!!!#own post
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Okay but have we thought about how scary odysseus interacting with the gods /his knowledge about such things it must have been for his crew?
Its well known that odysseus is Athenas favorite, even before the Trojan war. But what does that look like from the outside? Are their conversations in some other plain? Does odysseus sometimes just glaze over and you just have to trust its a god speaking to him and not aome other fit? Out in the open? During the war odysseus was frequently doing really bizarre things on Athena's say so. Bit you also know your captain is a freak and lier so which is it this time? The gods will or odysseus just tucking with you? There's a little wariness there. But it's well known. And been like this forever.
But then you start encountering more monsters. More gods. They all talk to your captain. Your captain stops sleeping. Your go between for you and the captain starts committing crimes against the captain, starts bad mouthing him. More of your friends have died then in ten years of war. And every other day there's a new god talking to your captain. What mortal man has the interest of this many gods? What mortal man can get up in the gods faces to yell at them. What mortal man has the powers to overcome the witches they encounter the power to over turn gods spells? What mortal man's tongue is so gilded he convinces these powers to help them? And doubt comes creeping in.
#the odyssey#epic the musical#odysseus#Odysseus's crew#outsider pov my beloved#But no seriously what does odysseus's life and causal interactions with the gods look like from the average man#Is your captain being weird because of the gods or because he's fucking with you and is about to laugh in your face#It's 50/50 either way and how do you tell#I have many thoughts and feelings about odysseus's unnamed crew#Typing this out I just realized that odysseus's crew don't know how he got circle on their side#All they know is he waltzed into her palace was not affected by her magic and then convinced her to turn everybody back and help them#The conspiracies that must exist around this man#Also odysseus got Athens blessing as a child how did he change after that?#How did eury and pilties feel about their interactions being spied on by a goddess?
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Day 1 of Sirentober / Doctober
Navigating / Blocks
Warrior of the Mine!
Available as a print on my Etsy shop
#doctorsiren#epic the musical#pallas athena#odysseus of ithaca#minecraft#the odyssey#greek gods#greek mythology#epic the musical fanart#digital art#my art#procreate#sirentober#sirentober 2024#doctober#doctober 2024#we made so goofy jokes in the server about epic and Minecraft 😭#he’s just a (block)man!#warrior of the mine fulfills my funny quota for the week thanks!#thank you Foop for 1. having the Athena and Ody designs I based these on and 2. Ody’s gamertag LMAO
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Odysseus to Athena: Friends!?
Athena: Yeah, no. Student and teacher.
Odysseus: Aw...
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Hermes upon their first meeting(and every subsequent meeting): HELLO, MY FRIEND!
Odysseus: !!!!!!!!
#epic the musical#hermes#odysseus#athena#you can't tell me that man doesn't want to befriend a god like how most kids want to make friends with a dragon or some sh!t#part of Odysseus was stoked#part of him- like a petty b!tch- turned around after Hermes left and was like 'suck it Athena. HE wants to be my friend.'#Ody deserved to have his mean girl phase#odysseus & athena#odysseus & hermes#i mean... friend - grandson-- whatever. semantics.
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Calypso: I hate that I fell in love with you!!
Odysseus:
Calypso: Why did I fall in love with you??
Odysseus:
Calypso: What do I do with this love for you??
Odysseus:
Calypso: How am I supposed to get over you??
Odysseus:
Calypso: Why in the world won't you love me, too??
Odysseus:
#he's married#epic the musical#calypso#odysseus#not sorry for loving you#you SHOULD be#the man's 2nd words to you were about his marriage#the vengeance saga#arter speaks#epic memes
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